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@BikesBoatsNJeeps: that’s no excuse for pivot though. Plenty of hardline riders are still going to be using the same bike. Nico vink and a lot of other riders at hardline did not have a custom hardline bike made and used their daily driver dh rigs. Also consider that Bernard is not a big dude. If someone like brage was on that bike I bet it wouldn’t have lasted as long. Frames should not fail like this, it’s clearly an engineering flaw

@TheR: Ive broken a frame and cracked plenty of rims without crashing, not cuz I’m super rad just the trails at my local park are super rough and i weigh 180lbs

@TheR: the zeb is a bit heavier than a pike or a 36, so that adds weight, but I think generally enduro bikes are being designed as dh’s that can pedal, rather than trail bikes that can DH. To me personally this makes more sense as trail bikes have become so capable that if weight is a concern they would be a better option for most riders, especially if you don’t frequent a lift access bike park. Some of my friends prefer their pikes/36 fork over the zeb because they perform better on a majority of trails due to being more compliant but as I retired my old DH bike and my old trail bike for a “do it all” enduro I want something that performs more like a Dh, especially considering I’m not a pro rider and even on a DH I’m nervous going down some trails, I don’t ever want to feel undergunned. I also enjoy arguing with other bike nerd’s occasionally so don’t take anything as a jab at you I’m just bored at work homie

His xgames real mtb edit was my favorite. The 360 off that huge building onto a grass bank might be the gnarliest thing I ever seen

If bike is underperforming on downhills that can lead to injury and lots of time off the bike. You are unlikely to get hurt on a climb. Feel like that trade off should be considered more considering we pretty much all have joined the clavicle club

@TheR: If you can run trail casings with carbon rims and never have any damage to them I would argue you might not need a 170mm travel enduro bike and this catagory isn’t and shouldn’t be catering to you. Or perhaps you are just such a smooth talented rider that you don’t beat up your rig as bad, or maybe the trails you ride just are not very rough. With DH pros strapping weights to the bottom of their bikes to increase suspension performance I don’t see how 38lbs is a negative at all for what this bike is designed for

@TheR: we are commenting under the review of a bike with a 170mm fork, the bike is intended be ridden on ews type trails at ews type speeds, if this were a trail bike with 140mm travel I would understand complaining about the weight, but the bike is purpose built for fast riders on rough trails. And I was referring to jack and jesse’s bikes which are both above 38lbs. I’ve rode behind Richie at my local park he is a beast but also way more precise and smooth than I am so i doubt the forces on our bike are that much different

@TheR: I linked the ews bike weigh ins, they definitely are not low end builds. With dh or double down and coil shock I think most big travel bikes weigh more than 35lbs, especially with no carbon parts. The idea that “lighter weight=better” in anyway is just completely wrong, as the fastest guys in the world are on 39lb bikes. Geometry and the balance of a bike can make it feel lighter than it is, especially at proper speeds

@uponcripplecreek: totally agree. I want to ride faster and not crash, why wouldn’t I look to see how the fastest people in the world are doing it? I would say not crashing is my biggest goal, if an extra 4lbs means I have more traction and better suspension performance I’ll take it. Crashing on the kind of trail that a 170mm fork is designed for is a potential life altering injury every time. Enduro bikes are not made for beach cruiser trails

@TheR: I don’t see a need for an enduro bike under 37 pounds unless you are trying to do 360’s and backflips. Yes most of us are not as good as an ews pro but that means we are less smooth and harder on our bikes at slower speeds. I would much rather see bike companies making burlier heavier more reliable bikes than trying to cater to weight weenies who want to see a certain number on a scale.