OneUp Announces New 240mm & 90mm Dropper Posts

Jan 31, 2022 at 11:12
by Henry Quinney  
Little meet large.

OneUp has added two new options into their dropper post lineup - a 240mm post and a 90mm post. When combined with the 20mm of travel reduction that's possible via shims, it means there’s a OneUp Dropper option available in 10mm increments from 70mm up to 240mm of drop. The 90mm post is there to cater to XS bikes, kids bikes and gravel bikes, as well as bikes that have interrupted seat tubes that inhibit more traditional, longer posts.

The 90mm post is priced at $199.50 USD, the 240mm is $229.50, and the Remote is $59.50. Their weights, in 30.9mm diameter, are 435g and 570g for the 90 and 240mm options respectively. The Remote weighs 41g. The 240mm post is available now via their website and the 90mm drop will be available later this summer.

All posts share the same removable and replaceable sealed cartridge, which sells for $60 USD should you ever need to replace it and a two-year warranty. If you're unsure of how to maximize your post-drop you can use the guide on OneUp's website.

The 240mm brings large amount of drop, which should help taller riders.
We've asked our gravel expert Mike Levy about putting them one on his bike, and whether or not it's suitable, but for now you'll have to make do with more drop options for XS and kids bikes.

Bigger doesn't always mean better, but when it comes to dropper seat posts a larger amount of travel tends to make for a better ride. Concerns about weight to one side, there aren't really any drawbacks to having a generous helping of drop.

We are of course limited by factors such as our own leg length and the bike that we ride when we choose our seat posts. When going for longer drop we can also have the issue of the saddle height being too high and full extension. There is also the added complication that as our posts get longer there is also more flex going through them. This is exacerbated when run with a slacker seat tube or taller, heavier riders putting more stress through the post.

OneUp has been tackling the first two of these issues with previous generations of their Dropper Post. The post has, they claim, the shortest stack heigh and the shortest total length of any post with the same travel. They also offer small 10mm shims to fine-tune the amount of travel to your need, with the reduce the amount of travel by 20mm.

Changing the travel is easy and tool-free. The shims are provided with the post.

The 240mm post comes with slightly different bushes, which ensure more overlap and a stiffer post. This is needed due to the larger extension and subsequent increase in leverage.

The last issue, which is particularly relevant as the new post goes all the way up to 240mm of stroke, is the problem of flex. They address this by having increased bushing overlap to help keep the post stiff even when loaded and at full extension.

At 183cm, or six foot, I can just about fit 240mm of travel on my 120mm, low slung bike without needing to shim it down. I'm looking forward to seeing how the extra drop affects my riding, as well as its long term durability.



There aims to be something for everyone.

The whole family of OneUp posts now covers 150mm of difference, from 90 to 240mm.



260 Comments

  • 205 0
 As a member of the very tall minority (6'3") I have to say that I really appreciate the market responding to our needs. This is likely a smaller/fringe market and OneUp could easily just make 170s for all and call it good... but they didn't. My future nerves thank you for my next steep chute line on my spring St. George area trip! Ording now!
  • 27 0
 I am 6'4" and have not had an issue with their 210 dropper. It would be interesting to do a side by side test though.
  • 49 0
 6'5" and have used a 210mm for the last year. Love it, but wound up moving the seat lower for the bike park. Ordered this guy the second I saw it.
  • 10 0
 i am beyond stoked for the 240, hopefully it fits in my frame.
  • 23 10
 I'm 5'9" and would happily run a 240. Currently running a 210 and would take more
  • 4 0
 Also at 6'3". My SC Hightower V2 XL has a Oneup 210, with about 33mm still left to drop in, which the HT will do. However, there is not enough insertion depth on the XL frame, nor the XXL frame to fully seat the 240mm dropper :-(
  • 20 0
 Yes! I’m 6’6 and am thrilled they keep pushing the numbers higher. I could honestly run a 270mm.
  • 16 0
 As a member of the minority ‘weirdly short legged person vs torso’ oneup gives about 15-20 mm more drop than I can get from other brands which is very valuable real estate the nubby legged
  • 40 1
 6'8" here with 38" inseam, currently running a 200mm post. I just measured and my saddle rails are 355mm above the seat clamp. The 240mm post has a 275mm stack height, so I base on that I could run a 320mm drop post !!

But 240mm will do nicely for now. I think I just set a new personal record for shortest time between "learning a product existed" and "deciding to spend $200". Meaning, I have been waiting for this to exist for a very long time. Thank you OneUp!
  • 1 3
 im 6ft and will benefit from 240. i have my saddle at proper height, the amount of people i see out biking with their saddle too low complaining of sore legs is crazy but many have had themselves "fitted" at the LBS.
  • 3 0
 I'll have to measure my bikes, I'm 6'5" and currently running 170mm droppers. On my hardtail I feel I have enough drop but I do move my full sus post down for uplift riding, I don't know if I move it 70mm though.
Either way this product is a big win for tall people.
  • 5 6
 @Bobadeebob: Yep, I'm 5'11" and on my current bike the 210 is about 2mm from slammed. Pretty much perfect! When it's down... so much room for activities!
  • 30 1
 I wonder how people on DH bikes survive without having their saddles slammed to full enduro bro measurements
  • 11 1
 @sasquatchclyde: He just OneUp-ed the rest of you tall folks
  • 12 0
 Can anyone beat 6"8? Waiting for a 7 footer to show up on this thread.
  • 26 0
 7'6" really looking forward to their 300mm dropper
  • 6 2
 @tremeer023: 6'9" here. I could definitely clear this on my custom REEB, but I'm still very happy with a 213mm BikeYoke.
  • 7 7
 @GTscoob: Thanks, man! ;-)
  • 1 0
 @GTscoob: glad I’m not the tallest on PB!

Interesting to see the variety in seat post heights. Some real clydes are stuck with really long seat tubes, while Henry reports having an amazing amount of room for a long travel dropper on a 120mm frame.
  • 2 0
 @Mntneer: i slam my seat on my dh bike. i have sdg i beam so that big ass cutout removes tire buzz
  • 5 0
 @Carlostheshredder: shaq dropper
  • 3 0
 @sasquatchclyde: And they are sold out in 240 x 34.6. I went to buy one immediately upon seeing this post. Hahahaha. Patience.
  • 8 0
 @freakonomics: Wow, that was fast!

This makes me think, I know that people at the extreme ends of the heigh spectrum make up a really small portion of the market, BUT, since there are little/no options in those size brackets, whoever introduces products designed for those extremes will instantly corner that ENTIRE market.

I can't speak to what it's like for people who are much shorter than average, but as a very tall rider, it's so difficult to find frames that are big enough. Very few brands carry XXL sizes, and those that do seem to use it as a way to reduce the gaps in their intermediate sizes. For example, Santa Cruz makes XXL, but it's marginally bigger than most brands' XL offerings.

Nicolai/Geometron is one option, but not everyone wants to (or can afford to) import a very expensive aluminum frame from Europe, especially one that makes so many compromises in the name of speed/traction.

Currently I'm riding a frame built for someone four inches shorter than me. Imagine being 5'9" and riding a bike for someone who is 5'5"! My bars are 75mm rise, I just bought an admittedly silly looking 240mm dropper, and I actually run my saddle pushed BACK against the rails so that I can get a little extra reach when seated. I would kill for like, 560mm reach, 700mm stack, and 480mm rear center.
  • 2 0
 @freakonomics: Dod Gammit! Had to see for myself too. Bwahaha
  • 8 0
 @sasquatchclyde: Dude, talk to Prosauce at Reeb. Ask for the XXXL custom geo they made for me. Almost 540mm reach, ~690mm stack (about the tallest that will clear with standard fork steerers).

And don't push your saddle back for length, that's terrible for climbing performance, use a longer stem to get cockpit length.
  • 1 0
 @freakonomics: just get a thinner/lighter one and run a Cane Creek shim. I've done it on a Spec with a 210, worked like a charm and I plan on doing it with my 240!
  • 3 0
 @sasquatchclyde: wow man. well, your user name certainly checks out!
  • 5 0
 6'3" and never saw a need for more than 150... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • 3 0
 Short person here feeling insecure with how tall everyone else is. I have no need for anything more than 170mm, but I'm glad these now exist.
  • 6 0
 @hamncheez: It's not the size of the post, it's how you use it.
  • 1 0
 @Bobadeebob: I’m also 5’9” but currently run a 120mm PNW lol. I can’t really get more drop tho because it’s externally routed.
  • 3 0
 I'm 6'4'' and bought this the minute I saw it! I have more one up components on my bike than any other brand. One up is one of the best companies out there! Everything they make is solid
  • 6 0
 @sasquatchclyde:

Geometron is waaaaay worth it.
It will be faster. It is wild fun in mullet setup.

You have room to size up and down all the way to 6'7.

Honestly I'm a hack of a rider and destroy bikes. Geometron has lasted me 2 years with no issues except a fair few derailleurs and carbon rims. Bearings still great. Taken some chunks out of it and it's still great.

Ride constantly up Mt Prevost and still not cracked it.

It's marvelous just having something metal and very well made.

Honestly tall people shouldn't look anywhere else. And I'm only 6'2 on an XL.
  • 1 0
 I'm 192cm and this would be mad!
  • 1 0
 I'm 196 cm tall (which a reasonable unit) or 6'5.165 ft (according to google, very unreasonable unit). I'm currently on a 200 mm Fox Transfer and there is about 50 mm of dead space sticking out of the seat tube. Therefore, I could run the 240 mm version. Nonetheless, I also like the looks of an all out Kashima bike (I know...don't blame me). Maybe Fox will add a longer version to their lineup, as well
  • 2 0
 @sasquatchclyde: try a Geometron G1, great for clydes and goes up to XXL in stock sizes with custom geo available if that’s not big enough.
  • 4 0
 @mattsavage:
I feel like most riders like the most drop possible almost like a BMX but a lot of pro DH riders actually have their saddle surprisingly high. There's no right answer!
  • 2 0
 @mattsavage: this! I'm 6'5" and never seen the need for a longer dropper, 150mm is more than enough. I actually swapped the post that came on my new bike for a short one.
What I don't get is how people ride with the seat so slammed, on my DH bike my saddle rests on the inside of my thigh which is perfect, so thats exactly where I want it on my trail/enduro rig.
Only time you'd ever what it lower is for dirt jumps if you're banging out tricks, which the average rider won't be doing.
  • 2 0
 @Bobadeebob: ya yu wud
  • 12 0
 I'm 7'4" but I have really short legs (about 1.5 feet long, most of my height is in my neck) so I'm glad they now have a 90mm option. It might be a bit of a stretch but if I wear my clipless heels I should be just fine.
  • 3 0
 @artistformlyknowasdan: I'm just here to support you... 5'9 with a 28-28.5" inseam
  • 1 0
 @ProudMTBdad1974: I'll take the fattest, heaviest one I can find. At 6'6" 260lb I need it, but great suggestion! Thanks.
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: cause you do not need it fully down , unless it is bmx (doing tricks, etc) however for tall folks difference btw fully up and dh height could be 240 or mo
  • 1 1
 @nickmalysh: yeah I know. It was a rhetorical statement to point out how silly the obsession that some people have with slamming their seat as low as possible—not the tall people who actually need it
  • 1 0
 @DC1988: I run a rigid post+bigger saddle for lift days and my seat height is significantly higher than with 185 post at full drop. But also further back and nose up….
  • 1 0
 @GTscoob: Same height, same post! But i got to say, 27mm extra do tempt me...
  • 1 0
 If companies still made proper size frames you would have that issue low standover heights are only for short people but it's sold off like we all need it.
  • 1 0
 @GTscoob: dam how tall are you
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: agree, I’m quite tall, however on trail bike 170-180 is max i need, on dj bike i have seat much lower, on fix it is all up, and i’m still able to bunny hop the curb or 2
  • 2 0
 I am 6'2 with long legs and I ride a 150
  • 91 2
 I predict some people wont be happy until the base of their dropper rubs on the bottom bracket shell.
  • 14 1
 Think my first dropper was 125mm, next was 150, then 170, then 180... now on 210! It's pretty much slammed in my current bike at 5'11", but every dropper I had, I was always like - "This is awesome, but I can't see needing anymore." Turns out I probably didn't "need" anymore... but having more has been awesome every step of the way, with no downside!

This seems great for those in 6'+ relm.
  • 4 0
 As it should
  • 7 1
 we should all just be riding trials bikes
  • 4 10
flag fluider (Feb 1, 2022 at 13:50) (Below Threshold)
 Hobby riders somehow need droppers with more travel than their bikes has suspended upfront or back. And DH racers like Minaar are OK with saddles lifted so high that one can't understand it :-)

I'd like to put 190mm dropper on 4X frame with 100mm travel (which I use mainly for commuting) to have more fun during transports but I feel so sorry to drill a hole into the frame.
  • 7 1
 @fluider: Suuure. And then you see photos with Minaars bike bottomed out with f*ck all clearance between the tire and saddle. So, no, they don´t ride with the saddle any higher than it has to be to prevent tire buzz as much as possible, not even very tall riders like Greg.
  • 6 0
 Why stop at BB height? All they need to do is offset it and then you can have a dropper running all the way to ground level.
  • 1 0
 I don't see things getting much longer. I could just about run of these, I mean, I couldn't because my seat tube isn't short enough, but even if it was, the tire would touch the saddle at full travel if it was any longer than 240mm. And much before the saddle got in the way of anything, my butt would be touching the wheel. And of course this depends on rider height and rear travel, but it's a limit.
  • 2 1
 I predict tall riders who actually mountain bike will be stoked on this product.
  • 2 0
 @fluider: Hobby riders go to the coffee shop. On actual high-consequence terrain, give me a dropper that takes the seat ALL the way out of my way!!
  • 1 0
 @fluider: drill it!
  • 60 8
 Pick a dropper length and be a dick about it
  • 132 1
 pick a dick length and be a dropper about it
  • 37 1
 Be a dick and post about it.
  • 46 1
 @unrooted: post your dick and.... no wait that never works out. - Brett Favre
  • 35 2
 Pick a Dick and Pound it
  • 3 2
 @lewisa10: Bazinga!
  • 40 0
 Now if the clothing market just could respond to the need for riding pants with inseams longer than 32"
  • 8 0
 ^All the upvotes! I'm only 6'1", but am about to send back two pairs of Fox Flexair pants because they look like bloomin' knickers on my 35" legs.
  • 1 0
 I concur. 190cm tall and I need to buy 3/4 length shorts if I don't want an obnoxious enduro gap.
  • 2 0
 Endura Single Track Trouser II. They have no inseam listed but it's at *least* 34in
  • 35 4
 240mm for 229$ and 199 for 90mm
-13% price for 62% less travel !
Short legged people got robbed !
  • 13 2
 why not just long legged people got a deal?
  • 4 0
 @crsimmons: Because it was less funny ;-p
  • 25 1
 Did you ever want to buy a new frame just to fit a new component? That's how I feel today. Stuck at 170mm drop with nowhere to grow
  • 9 22
flag bashhard (Feb 1, 2022 at 9:56) (Below Threshold)
 Nah, never. I don't care about the latest bling
  • 26 3
 @bashhard: This isn't bling, it's a functional upgrade that happens not to fit in my frame- and I ride an XL.
  • 13 0
 This makes me want to build up a dj bike that I could take xc riding.
  • 1 0
 Do you have a OneUp dropper already? If you run a 170 from Fox for instance, I think you might run a 210 from One up. You might have to reduce it to 200 at most.
  • 1 0
 I just checked, and it seems to have 30mm of extra travel for the same exposed length, so 200mm would be it.
  • 2 0
 @DavidGuerra: Good question. I have a 180mm Oneup, shimmed to 170 and slammed to the collar. Their design is definitely the best for length:drop ratio!
  • 2 0
 Had a previous gen. Slash-needed a large to get the reach I wanted. The longest dropper I could fit was a OneUp 150mm. Now on a medium Reign, same reach with a 210 dropper. Yeah-it's better. Maybe not get a new bike better, but more important than water bottle placement.
  • 2 0
 Being short of leg, I was barely able to fit a 125mm Ritchey Kite dropper on my L Karate Monkey. When my Ritchey had issues, I did the math on a OneUp 150 and crossed my fingers. It fits with room to spare. I think I could get the 180 in there if I shimmed to 170 or installed 165 cranks. I love what they've done for dropper fitment. I just wish they had a dropper I could put on my road bike.
  • 16 1
 I wonder if it could be possible to keep the 240mm but do it in 2x120, so the inserted part would be smaller and would fit in more frames.
  • 18 0
 To get it to be stiff enough it would probably have to be incredibly heavy, and it would need twice as many keys as a standard post. Definitely a solid idea but seams like an engineering nightmare
  • 15 2
 Like an older car radio antenna. I'm sure it's coming.
  • 3 0
 Then you'd have two flexing points instead of one and they'd have to be even more careful with bushing overlap. Just would be trickier. This idea would apply to all lengths anyway. XS frames may only fit a 100mm dropper but maybe the rider could ride 130mm if dropper fit. That's a big deal to shorter rider too.
  • 6 0
 This is called telescoping.
  • 11 1
 @OneUpComponents - expanding range is fantastic, but what *all* OneUp riders could use most is a new design for your upper seals. I would gladly pay for redesigned "midcaps" w/ better seals as an upgrade to my two current OneUp droppers, or for that matter pay more for a new dropper for my next build if it came with seals that don't gum up so easily. I am a big fan of your compact design and ease of access for service, but I didn't need to clean seals & internals of my last two Reverbs anywhere near as often, and I live in a nice, dry, sunny climate!
  • 4 1
 For real. Have to open collar on my OneUp 2-3wks to add grease inside top seal to keep dropper moving & provide barrier to dust & mud that push past that lip seal far too easily. It is great that OneUp managed to bring cost of a solid dropper down to $200, but I'd def. be willing to pay $250 for a version with better, lower-maintenance seals.
  • 4 1
 @WarOnErrorism: Agreed. Worked great for about one month, riding 4-6 times/week. At two months it completely stopped returning to full height and that happened over the course of two rides. Works great when it’s good to go!
  • 11 1
 Kudos to the 1up peeps, they really innovate more than almost all the others combined.
  • 13 2
 The longer it gets, the more stiffness becomes an issue…
  • 9 0
 High pivots ain't got NOTHING on how high this thing goes
  • 5 0
 Higher than Snoop Dogg at a Bob Marley tribute concert
  • 7 0
 I remember when "125mm" was all you need and you're doing it wrong if you need more...
  • 8 1
 haha, ya... remember having an epic internet battle with Waki about moving to a 170mm dropper from 150mm. He was sooo adamant that anything above 150 (at the time) was totally useless along with some kind of weird argument about your rear tire hitting your seat at full travel/full drop, plus you'd just hit your ass on your tire all the time instead of the seat blocking that from happening. Haha, it was ridiculous then and even more now... especially since I've now moved to a 210 and loving life on it!

People just love to make up shit to bitch about... it's so weird.
  • 6 0
 That’s also when people said a 65 head tube angle was too slack.

It’s these no-skill Gumbys that have stifled bike design. Glad most modern bikes have geometry and parts that work for actual hard off-road use.
  • 2 6
flag calmWAKI (Feb 1, 2022 at 15:05) (Below Threshold)
 @islandforlife: I am178cm tall, had 170 dropper on nordest bardino hardtail with 430 seat tube 29” 2.4” tire in the rear and seat was 6-8cm over the rear tire at full drop. If it were a fully the tire would bottom into the saddle at around 100-120 point. With 150 dropper at 120-150. The top of the tire is higher at this point than the top of the seat already when it stands on flat ground. What is it that you don’t understand with tire and seat/ass occupying the same space at same moment in time?

www.instagram.com/p/CQY-OdYnsXR/?utm_medium=copy_link
  • 5 9
flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 15:10) (Below Threshold)
 @islandforlife: It may not apply for everyone and any bike, but the chances are not low:
www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/droppus-extralongus.954977/page-2#post-17900391
  • 2 0
 And anything bigger than a 36t granny meant you were obviously weak
  • 3 3
 @calmWAKI: I've never seen a FS bike (trail to enduro) that would buzz the seat with the longest dropper the frame is capable of handling combined with working for the rider. OneUp and others are selling a shit ton of 210+ droppers without issue. I'm 180cm tall riding a bike with a 456mm seat tube (size large) with a 210mm dropper slammed in the seat tube. 29" 2.4" tire and at full travel (167mm) the tires doesn't come close to hitting my seat. When I switched from a 180 to 210, I enjoyed the extra space I now had. If my bike had a 430mm seat tube... I'd still be riding my dropper at the same height (26mm from slammed) and it still wouldn't hit my tire. Hardtails and FS bikes are designed with different geometries... hardtails generally have super short chainstays... that bike looks like it has, what, 425mm chainstays? And if it was redesigned into a FS bike, they'd lengthen the chainstay and make the seat tube taller. My last bike was 27.5, had a 405mm seat tube and a 180mm dropper, it had 160mm of travel... again, full travel and full drop, tire wasn't close to buzzing the seat.
  • 4 9
flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 17:21) (Below Threshold)
 @islandforlife: Never seen? Then here you go:
www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/droppus-extralongus.954977/post-17900391
It's a 175mm dropper for that matter. Travel of the bike is 140mm only and the shock is not even bottomed out. I already explained in another post here. There's are enough bikes where it'll work, no doubt. But one should at least have this in mind...
  • 3 3
 @Sacki: Your example seems extreme though, who is running a small frame and a 175mm dropper? Most of my friends on med frames run 125mm-150mm as they don't need longer.

As for @calmWAKI you answered your own question as like you said, your tire is higher than the seat, the point of a dropper is so you can get low and back, you don't need a dropper that big since you should not need to be occupying the same space as your rear wheel. I used to have a Bardino and at basically the same height as you I used a 125mm dropper and never had an issue getting behind the seat. The stack is so massive on that bike that you feel like you are elevated up on a platform, needing your ass 170mm lower wasn't really a concern as you will look like you are riding a chopper. I would like to see a picture of you with your body as far low and back as you can go with that post, your entire body will be below the bars.
  • 2 0
 @islandforlife: The key to your point is "combined with working for the rider". These guys are working under the pretense of simply maxing out the post and slamming it to the frame, which is a setup Ive never really seen because like you said, people on small frames for example dont use 175mm droppers. WAKI's 170mm dropper on his Bardino is way overkill given the design of that frame, I rode a L/XL Bardino with a 125mm dropper and while I may have preferred 150mm, it was still quite adequate. Most of my bikes I ride a 170mm dropper on too but it just wasn't needed on the Bardino.
  • 1 0
 @warmerdamj: The funny thing for me is when people mention need for a low seat on steeps, while the moment when you really need the seat low is compression into a bunnyop (if you are good at bunnyhopping - I'm not), manual or take off of a steep jump. I got that long dropper so that I could hit dirt jumps after Xc ride. It felt cool too!

When I had 125 on my Antidote CJ I had a hardtime jumping it on steep jumps as the seat was bumping me in my ass all the time. If I adjusted my positon to a more forward one I was blowing through the jump with little air. On steeps if you don't stay more forward than you think you should then you MAY be doing it wrong.
  • 4 9
flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 0:20) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: My example is not extreme, because installing a 125 or 150 length on there changes exactly: NOTHING. Slamming a 125 or 150 all the way into the tube puts the saddle in exact the same position. Think about it. Please.
And that's exactly the problem. As we are not only learning from this thread, people are trying to maximize their drop. And short seattubes and long insertion may suggest that this is possible. But I bet you - because I can tell you from experience - that barley anyone thinks about the saddle clearence until it's too late.
The question is: What really is the point of such a short seattube on this specific bike in the link above? You can not use it. And this is an honest question that I have been trying to answer myself for a long time.
Also - to get back to your original point: This bike in the picture with a 185 Revive would result in saddle rail height of less than 600mm and that is easily lower than what most typical S riders have.
I have a saddle rail height of about 730mm and I'm about 185cm tall. Of course they will attempt to install 180mm (and more) drop, if the seattubes is short enough with enough insertion.
So we are far from extreme regarding the drop. There is room for even longer droppers on this bike (neglecting tire clearence). We have checked insertion.
The problem is that everyone is asking for more drop, but not thinking about consequences.
  • 2 2
 @Sacki: your post is heart warming... I could add that insertion length increases with dropper length (ndaaa) which means you need longer bit of steerer to be straight. That makes it harder to design frames, particularly alloy frames - takes room that would otherwise be occupied by water bottle (Spec, YT) and perhaps adds complexity for placing pivots. The closer the water bottle ends up to the BB, the shorter the clavicle can be driving the shock. The longer the shock can be, thus leverage ratio can be better (like watch Trek Fuel Ex or Slash and try to make that seat tube straight all the way - you can't! - something's gotta give!)

I would go as far as saying that designing a Medium 29er with more than 120mm of travel, with stays shorter than 440, proper shock length, water bottle and 210mm dropper is impossible. But it is banging the head against the wall, everyone wants more megapixels, more cameras in their phone and in the end the bulk of ignorants with unrealistic expectations are dumbing down the bike design.

Now... let's wait for a Nicolai owner to chime in hahahaha... I'll throw a water bottle at him

So... whoever is heading for 300mm dropper I have a solution:
www.amazon.se/Banana-Bike-balanscykel-legeringshjul-5-%C3%A5ringar/dp/B07M6R4XLN
  • 3 8
flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 1:56) (Below Threshold)
 @calmWAKI: There are people who have use for such long droppers. I won't doubt that. And even if many frames or frame designs could never use such a long droper for all the reasons you mentioned (and more), there are still enough frames, that could actually take it in a reasonable way, at least length wise. Means: Seattube is not too too long but also not too short for the travel of rear wheel bike and has enough insertion depth. Rider then is tall enough to make use of a 240+ dropper. All fair.
The question is: Would it not make sense to push/implement 34.9 on a wider scale in the market, and then go longer? Because function and reliablilty - and that, I believe is clear for everyone - will for sure not improve with longer drop. Our 125mm REVIVE is much more smooth than a 213 for example. Everyone can feel it. The fact, that the longer drops are naturally also riddenr by heavier riders make it even worse. If we see troubles on our droppers, then these are concerning more the longer drops - naturally.
The 34.9 standard opens a whole different world and posts are getting much stronger, more reliable, and you can go even longer without having to compromise too much.
I am afraid of going longer than 213 with one of our 30.9/31.6 designs, that's why OneUp has all my respect.
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 @Sacki: Go 400mm! I made it work, Check out the link below

Let me introduce to everyone:

www.pinkbike.com/photo/22013319

THE DROPPED DONUT! Literally the most trendy frame out there
@brianpark @mikelevy make it happen
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 @Sacki: I also understand that there are people who use such droppers and yes 34.9 makes perfect sense. Maybe more. It also begs to ask why 32inchers are not a thing yet if there are people tall enough to run 210+ droppers. Emily Batty and MVDP noth on Canyon with 29" wheels - it shows that we need to go bigger. "modern" geometries (no matter how skeptical I am about them) make it viable now. And the list doesn't step there, recently we normalized 220 rotors, 1.8" steerers will get more prevalent, Sid has 35mm inners. There's loads of upsizing to do. BUt let's not open too many cans of worms at once
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 3:35) (Below Threshold)
 @calmWAKI: That actually, I would believe, someone would actually take on....
The idea is not that weird, as if someone would not think it can make sense.
And also: No water in the seattube. Big plus! ;-)
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 @Sacki: You just need to start making integrated bashguards for your droppers Big Grin

BTW I use your condom to keep the water away from the seat tube, works ace! Brilliant little thing. Will soon buy your seat clamp so that is fits in better.
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 @Sacki: The low stand over height of the Switchblade might be the main reason for the short seat tube.
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 5:13) (Below Threshold)
 @soldatperdu: You don't think one could easily make the seattube a tad longer without affecting the standover at all? That seattube overshoot is not that long. No?
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 @Sacki: It seems like this bike in your picture is designed perfectly then? If you say the slammed 185 post only gives a seat height of 600mm which isn't long enough for most riders, AND the seat when slammed like that hits the tires then raise the seat post. Not only will it stop hitting the tire but the seat height will be proper? I guess that's why the seat tube is so short, so shorter people can use a huge drop and clear that seat.

And @calmWAKI, so you need a huge dropper on your Bardino because you are using it as a DJ bike, that doesn't mean that bikes in general are not designed properly for long posts.

Both of you are using your bikes/post outside of what the bike was designed for, the Bardino is not a DJ bike (still cool) and the Switchblade was not deigned to have the 185mm post slammed into the frame, it was clearly meant to have it a couple inches higher so its 1. Usable for the rider and 2. doesnt hit the frame.
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 9:15) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: Sorry I do not understand what you mean.
It doesn't matter if this frame with a 185 REVIVE has a 600mm saddle height, or lower or higher. Or if that saddle height is more or less than what the average "S"-rider needs for that matter.
The point is that there will be customers who will slam the post all the way into the frame, because they want to maximise their drop. And at that point, it doesn't matter which length the dropper has or what is the extended saddle height is, because they are all the same, when dropped.
There will be contact between tire and saddle at full rear wheel travel. I don't want to make a big deal out of it., becaue it isn't to me. I just don't understand the point of such a short seattube if you can not utilize it. Ano the majority won't check such clearences.
Oh, this is a size Small fame. There is an even shorter (-25mm) seattube available.
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 @Sacki: You can utilize the short seat tube but utilizing it doesn't nessisarly mean getting the longest possible post. You are just taking an extreme here and you are definately making a big deal out of it. If your seat post drops the seat into the tire then don't f*cking use that long of a post?

Yes people want to get the biggest dropper they can use, but if you are going to choose to use a post that drops your seat into your tire then you're a dumb ass.

Its like saying that its stupid to make 2.6" tires because a lot of frames don't clear them but people want the widest tires they can get. Then you post a picture of a 2.6" tire rubbing on your frame as your argument. The solution is that you use the most appropriate tech that still fits your need. Same applies to a dropper, don't buy one that drops your seat into your tire.
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 12:03) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: Totally different case. And I still do not understand your point, I am really sorry.
I have tried to explain in my last post:
You do not have to use a 213 dropper (or any maximum length dropper) to cause this issue. The same will happen with a 100mm dropper of the same model (Transfer in this case). The compressed stack height of a 100mm Transfer is exactly the same as which of a 175mm Transfer.
So, as soon as you insert any Transfer of any length into this frame, you will get the same result as seen in the picture. Doesn't matter if 100 or 125 or 150 or 175, ...
So if I can not insert the post fully into the frame, without causing collision, then how exactly am I really able to utilize the shortness of the seattube as you say? I don't get it. Sorry.
I have a 370mm seattube, but it is useless, because I can not insert all the way. That means it would not make any difference if the seattube was let's say 390mm or 400mm long, whereever the tire does not cause any more collision. The extra short 370mm seattube length are of no use. Am I wrong?
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 @Sacki: You definately don't get it. DONT INSERT THE SEATPOST THE ENTIRE WAY. Why do you keep saying the short seat tube is of no use? It still allows you to run a longer dropper then if the seat tube was longer. You just can't get past not being able to insert the post the whole way. You're right that any length post, if slammed to the frame will hit the tire. So if a 180mm post hits the tire then use a 150mm post that is not slammed into the frame.

What planet am I on right now that we can't understand this?
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 13:04) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: I really do not know, what to say anymore or how to explain.
You are contradicting yourself in every single post but I don't know how to explain.
You say yourself, that it is correct that "any length post, if slammed to the frame will hit the tire." Those are your words!
If you can not drop any post to the last 2 or 3 centimeters to the frame anyway, then please explain to me, what is wrong with designing the seattube in the lenght, where this exactly can not happen aynmore? Nothing is lost. For no one.
But, and that is the key point: You avoid potential and very expensive complications due to misuse from the start.
Of course it is not possible to design every frame always for the shortest stack height dropper to the millimeter, because dropper dimensions and lowest stack heights change constantly. Saddles are different, too. But we are not even close to being clear of the tire. We are looking at a dropper with almost 60mm stack height and a frame which is not even the shortest of it's family. So things can be much worse.
Not sure if you now understand what I mean, but if not, then I will not comment anymore. I also don't think it is fair to be rude. I felt this was a normal and fair technical discussion, no need to get personal or start "screaming".
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 @Sacki: please continue your rantings with Waki, I will no longer interfere.
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 13:57) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: Gosh, I'm not sure what I did to you, but I do not see me ranting anywhere here. So many people here joined in public discussion and it's just normal and ok to have different opinions. At least that's what I learned to grow up with. No hard feelings, if someone is is of a different opinion and makes his points clear. I just tried to explain my points in civil manner and make them clear with examples, when I thought someone didn't understand. No one was hurt or offended. I really don't get what you want from me.
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 @warmerdamj: Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference
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 @stella10: Solid advice.
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 @calmWAKI: what we need is a frame with an effective seat tube angle in the high 70’s and an actual angle of around-20deg. I want my seat to go back when lower not forward…
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 @Sacki: Seems a little disingenuous to post under Sacki rather than "BikeYoke". Public discussion is a fair forum to voice your thoughts for sure, but be big enough to be transparent regarding your bias!
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 @halr75: what bias? He stated truth, there are negative consequences to making super long posts. Some people are so ignorant they would buy a 300mm of drop with 2cm bushing spacing as long as it held up for a test on a site like Pinkbike. All this with zero regard to compromises it causes to frame design.

So a bold move by Sacki to come an comment here since sooner or later everyonewho comes here gets covered in crap by cowards without face.
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 @calmWAKI: If anybody knows about negative consequences to long posts and being a coward it's you.
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 @warmerdamj: way to go bro.
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 @Sacki: I'm all for spirited debate until it turns false.

"Not by coincidence our 185 already has a significantly longer bushing overlap than a 210 OneUp or our 213 has more than the 240 We trade build length for something else that we think is more important in our books. That doesn't mean we're right, but it means we set different priorities. You can not have everything. And the customer can choose what is important for him. Or OEs can choose what is more important for them."

This is false:

- The OneUp 180mm dropper has MORE bushing overlap that the Bike Yoke 185mm
- The OneUp 240mm dropper has MORE bushing overlap that the Bike Yoke 213mm
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 @calmWAKI: this is great!
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 Running a 210 OneUp on my current bike-post is just about slammed to the collar.

Wouldn’t go back to a shorter dropper.

Love how easy it is to service the OneUp. Love their customer service.

Concave pedals, on the other hand……
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 what dont you like about their pedals?
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 @noideamtber: i'm gonna guess the concave part, and I agree. But flats are very much personal taste. Love everything else they make.
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 @noideamtber: But meant convex
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 @dancingwithmyself: can one not just adjust the pin length to make the contact flat?
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 @rjmogul: I still felt the axle\center of the pedal in a weird way and just couldn't get along with them, but a lot of people love them. I just don't feel the need to make the compromise to chase a thinner leading edge.
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 at 6ft 4 with long legs, I welcome this. Thanks Oneup, thats the quickest I have seen an ad and made a purchase!
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 30.9 in 240mm? Seems like that will be plagued with issues, but guess we'll see!
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 lucky for you oneup doesn't change anything except the lower bit so a 34.9 upper tube is the same as a 30.9
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 Just make sure your rear wheel clears that saddle at full drop/full bottom...

Seriously, OneUp stuff is great and this is good to see. I do predict some confused folks taking their bikes in because they're bottoming out harshly and also their saddles are all torn up for some reason.

-W
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flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 14:57) (Below Threshold)
 True.
Funnily, I started a survey last week on another platform to discuss with customers about the need and wish for leven onger drop droppers.
Already back in 2020 I tried to explain to some customers that it is not as easy at it seems to get a long dropper to work on their bikes.
1. You need to have sufficient length of extended post, which is already not easy, but manageable with quite some modern short seat tubes.
2. What makes it more complicated - and what most customers underestimate - is, that insertion is also limited and that is most of the time the bigger dealbreaker than the required extened length. The post needs to go a looong was down the seattube.
3. Now if you managed to take that hurdle, you may also want to check, if your saddle won't drop too deep, as you can see in the picture below:
www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/droppus-extralongus.954977/page-2#post-17900391
Now that frame is not even the smallest of its kind (there is even a size smaller) and the old Transfer installed there is not exactly know having the lowest stack height. A OneUp slammed fully into that seattube instead of the Transfer, and the saddle would almost be 20mm lower than what can be seen there.
And we haven't even talked about that we're only looking at 140mm rear wheel travel here with the saddle nose pointed slightly down and the shock not bottomed out.
So there are a lot of things to consider with ultralong drop dropper posts, that one might forget on first sight.
So bottom line for me is, that the majority of people who will benefit from such long droppers are customers that are really tall with a seattube around 450mm or longer for Enduro caliber rear wheel travel. And those long guys are then usually not the lightest riders either, so we'd also have to think about heavily increased structural integrity.
I am sure the guys at OneUp have done a lot of homework to get this dropper done, so chapeau from my side, if it works as intended! I am not sure if I want to keep playing the chaser for the longest drop. Getting our 213 working as it does, already costed us some headache, but I am happy with how it performs now.
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 Hate it that you can't undo accidental downvotes. This is going from be a real issue , not because of the post, but because of the knowledge of the average consumer.
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 @dancingwithmyself: it will be a bigger issue with frame manufacturers being pushed into further design compromises. All cool with long legged people but it will not stop folks on M and L frames wanting as much drop as they can fit.

We already have overly long clavicles putting increased forces on shocks which are there because people want as much room for as big water bottle as the frame can take. Then the trunion mount thing that was supposed to solve that and fell a bit short. Some designs already have leverage ratios higher than optimal due to low standover and room for water bottle because there is no way to fit the longer shock. Finally the low swung downtubes proceeding forward for a good deal, being put at bit more risk of getting smashed as Bash no longer protects them. Yeti comes to mind first.
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 I'm probably not tall enough to use a 240mm dropper, but props to one up for making it for the tall people.

The problem now (and always has been) is that my bike and every other complete bike already has a dropper. It's time for more brands to make their build kits customizable or just leave fitament components out of the build all together like pedals. I'd like my next bike to come without a dropper, pedals, saddle, grips, stem, cranks, rotors, brake pads, bar, or tires. Basically, bikes should come with just the main expensive parts like frame, suspension, drivetrain, wheels, and brakes in order to gain some cost advantage. Everything else I'd rather replace, but it's hard to justify the cost when the other stuff does still work.
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 I would just build a bike from the ground up at that point
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 "All posts share the same removable and replaceable sealed cartridge, which sells for $60 USD"

This is not true. Each length of post has it's own length cartridge.
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 6'6" been running and loving the 210mm on a bike that has a very high seat post, next bike will get the 240mm 100%, aslo the 90 will be a perfect replacement for my GFs crap, but thus far, too small to replace Giant/liv dropper. Guaranteed to buy both of these!
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 6'6" and will be ordering one of these immediately!

Now, if some clothing manufacturers would listen and make some decent riding pants in 36" - 38" inseam, I'd be golden!
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 Seat high confuses me. I am barely 5 10, run a 210 post with 4 or 5 cm above the collar on a large size frame. I think ppl are running their seats way to low or not fitting their bikes properly.
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 Leg length does not conform to height. I am also 5'10", but I have a long torso and short legs. Bikes from 10 years ago that were supposedly 5'10" appropriate had seat-up-your-ass standover and cramped reach for me. Crank height will also vary ideal seat height.
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 Game changer!
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 240mm is dope as can be, but I'm really curious to see how many frames out there can handle that. I've got a 34 inch inseam myself, running a medium 5010 rather than an XL, and this wouldn't even come close to fitting my bike. I can't think of any brands we sell that would support it, aside from straight seat tube steel hardtails. I'm glad these dudes are willing to support what realistically amounts to a non-market. There will for sure be a ton of rigs that this works on, but I can't imagine this being a leading product by sales.
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 New Orbea Rallon should be able to handle this.
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 All the Transition bikes would fit it.
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 im 6 ft and my altitude will take the 240 for me, its all about saddle height for me.
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 Why am I getting downvoted for asking a question? Jesus pinkbike.

Thanks for the answers dudes!
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 This thing was made for long legs, your seat height matters a ton, not just what the frame can handle. My inseam is around 92cm or ~36.2 inches. With a 210 OneUp and a seat tube in the 460-480 range (that could be a large or an XL frame), I end up with a bunch of exposed seatpost, and usually i'm nowhere near close to the max insertion length.
At my saddle height i'm sure this thing would work in plenty of frames.
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 6'1", large Yeti SB130 with OneUp 210, the 240 would work for me.
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 @sherbet: I'm 6'0-6'1 and could fit this on my medium Knolly Chilco, seat might buzz the tire at full compression though
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flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 15:32) (Below Threshold)
 I don't think the market is that small, and there is definitely demand that can be met. But at the same time many instant buyers will have to realize that it won't work as they thought. Every week we have customers asking to change their newly bought 213 for a 185 simply because they underestimated the total length. That for sure won't get better with even longer posts.
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 @Sacki: the difference is No brands other than oneup has made any effort in lowering lower stack/insert height.
im 6ft and will easily be able to slam a 240 on my large altitude.
People keep whinging about seat post length and for whatever reason brands are b.s'ing that number by putting a huge trek/dh bike bend in the seat tube and claiming short lengths
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 @noideamtber: Absolutely right and therefore OneUp rightfully deserves the success they have. They clearly make the most compact dropper. Period.
However, there may be other priorities one may have, when designing a dropper post. Not by coincidence Fox's lower tube of their 200mm version is significantly longer than OneUp's 210mm version. Not by coincidence our 185 already has a significantly longer bushing overlap than a 210 OneUp or our 213 has more than the 240 We trade build length for something else that we think is more important in our books. That doesn't mean we're right, but it means we set different priorities. You can not have everything. And the customer can choose what is important for him. Or OEs can choose what is more important for them.
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 @Sacki: for sure, oneup droppers lack in "fit", seat wobbles and the seat rail clamps are crap - they also creak for whatever reason. but ill happily trade that for their price and stack/drop

People also need to know shims exist and are very helpful for running a smaller diameter dropper in a larger tube size.
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flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 17:46) (Below Threshold)
 @noideamtber: And that's why it's good to have choice. ;-) I'm not a big fan of shimming down from a bigger seattube diameter. Why would you do that if you buy a new dropper anyway. If there is a dedicated 34.9 dropper, why get a 30.9 or 31.6 and shim it? Especially on long drop droppers shims will most likely not give sufficient support inside the seattube because they are too short.
Weapon of choice must be a dedicated 34.9 dropper, because they work so much better. Not sure if the new 34.9 from OneUp is a dedicated 34.9 dropper or just a 30.9/31.6 with a bigger lower tube, but same upper tube.
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 @Sacki: uppers are the same i believe.
The idea behind running a shim is you "CAN" get away with a longer/deeper insert depth post on some frames, ie running a 31.6 post in a 34.9, you can sneak a bit more in.

Oneup will always be my dropper choice, even just for the price, im not paying a heap for an air tube that makes my seat go up and down.
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 @scotteh: But the real question is....wtf are you doing on a medium Knolly!?!? lol You should at least have a large!
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 @thustlewhumber: and by all you mean none? Because not even XXL frames have 337 insertion depth. Straight seat tube is nice, but it´s not everything.
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 @noideamtber: Good luck with that slamming lol, you are only 80-90mm out.
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 The RAAW Madonna v2 has an open bottomed seattube which could fit a significantly longer post than this on my XL frame. With the same dimensions by OneUp I think I could be running a 260mm or possibly 280mm post but at that point the dropper would be nearly hitting my shock.
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 @noideamtber: That is a fair point and can make a difference, indeed.
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 @Timo82: medium Chilco has a 465 reach which feels great with a 50mm stem (equivalent to many other brand's larges). I prefer a shorter reach and longer stem to keep weight on the front wheel and the wheelbase in check. large knolly's are 490+ reach which feels too long to me, would rather have a playful bike than plow machine
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 @Mondbiker: ? i've had the bikeyoke 213 slam and its significantly longer than my current 210. One of the rocky pros has a large an is similar height and he has his just lifted from the frame and thats for saddle height.

so??
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 @noideamtber: either your definition of slammed is very different than mine or RM doesn´t know what their frames measurements are (not impossible, just less likely). Size L Altitude has stated max.insertion depth of 280mm, not even close to 297mm insertion of 210mm one up, And yes, revive is definitely longer still.
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 @scotteh: I had a large warden LT with a 50mm stem which was good but it could have been a biitt longer at 6'1''. Anyway I feel you, last year I was on a XL Banshee Titan and I bought a new large frame at the end of the season..it was good with a 40mm stem but too much of a bike for me... I'll put back a 50mm stem and have a more playful bike like my good old warden 27.5!
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  tall peeps and short kings/queens rejoice!
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 6'8" and have been waiting for a 250. This will do. With a 200 and riding at Northstar I drop the post another 4" into the frame all the way to the collar just to be able to clear some lines.
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 Great news, of course I have just received my 210mm drop post which has not been opened. Will have to sell it and get the 240mm version when they have them in stock. Thanks one up components. Love your work!
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 You mean the lack of it? I have OneUp v2 in 210mm and it already binds on me on rare occasions.
The main issue is that 30.9 and 31.6 are still the most commonly used diameters. 34.9 is the way to go.
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flag Sacki (Feb 1, 2022 at 11:58) (Below Threshold)
 I like your thinking!
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 @Sacki: Or even better - go with Eightpins and make "one step into the future", as they say.
Kudos to Ghost and their Riot for that! If they release a link that improves the kinematics, i'm buying that bike.

Eightpins + Formula suspension and brakes + Shimano drivetrain for 3600€ ($4057)? Yes, please!
And for 150€ more you have the option of going coil front and back.

---
I was replying to @Hairymountainbeast with my first comment, but effed up, ha!
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 That's pretty cool! I'm hoping everybody goes to the easily height adjustable style like e13 soon though. Shims are not the most intuitive and I really like to get my seatpost collar sitting on the frame to maximize space. One Up makes some great stuff and I bet this will be popular.
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 Shimming it is so easy.
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 @dancingwithmyself: It's not bad. Try a post where you just unthread the collar and rotate something to set the height. It's the future.
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 I think this is a great idea.

Now, SRAM, please....will you stop messing around with flight attendants and release a 200mm travel AXS post, with a smaller battery?????
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 This is not just for super tall people. I am 175cm tall. Average. BUt I do have long legs. On my 2021 Stumpjumper S3 I currently have the 210 dropper and could probably get at least 220 on the bike if not 230mm. So perhaps it's not the common body shape, but new bikes with short seat tubes and long reach it does open up a lot of options
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 I'm 193cm / 6'3 have been riding reignX with my ghetto mecha dropper aka seatpost in seatpost = 240mm drop, after that I had mojoHD XL, but it has only 150mm dropper and it was sticking out a lot, now I have RockMachine Blizzard L, it came with 150mm, switched to 210mm one up, it is not possible to slam it to collar, so even that I want 240mm version I couldn't fit it all inside. Only few frames has straight seat tube, usually they have pivot mount there so you can't fit it. Looking forward to new frames with 34,9 straight long seat tubes :]
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 Interesting, but the frames need to have adequate seatpost insrtion, so we can earn from this. I find useless to have a 240mm dropper, if in the low position the seat is 50 or 60mm upper the seatclamp. Most of the times, even the Large or X-large frames have less than 250mm of insertion
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 I have a 210 that works great, but it still has a mean creak in it that I have never been able to get rid of. I moved to larger pins and have regreased everything. Can't imagine dealing with an even longer one. But I probably will still try it anyways
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 I know I’m in the minority but I do not ascribe to the longer, the better. Trail riders ofter use their dropper more than the shifter on some trails. Doing hundreds of squats up off of an extra long dropper wears out the legs. At 6’3”, a 170 dropper is plenty for our less than vertical trails. Trying to feather a longer dropper near the bottom but not quite all the way down to not have to stand all the way back up is not feasible. Better to just slam 170 all the way and go. I’ve talked two other locals into moving to shorter droppers and they agree it’s much less tiring.
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 @sdub99 this is part of the reason why I wait for the "auto-down" dropper with bated breath. If the crazy expensive AXS dropper had that feature, I'd pony up the money!
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 By the time my 200mm BrandX posts dies I’m hoping there are 300mm droppers available, I would still have room between my clamp and the seat post collar on my xxl Nukeproof mega.
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 Now we just need pants to fit our long legs!
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 Daaaaamn that's long. When I bought my 210mm oneup I thought it was ridiculously long. Now I could get an extra 30mm of drop!
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 This is awesome. Buuut controversial opinion - For the next crop of new frames, I expect manufacturers will cancel out the benefit of this for tall riders but dropping top tubes even further. It'll revert to being the norm for 5'10 riders.
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 I love my 210mm, shame my foxy won't let me run any more due to a short insertion. I do wonder if the current post diameters of nearly 35mm is big enough as we near a foot of drop
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 3:40) (Below Threshold)
 If only it were 35mm in diameter. ;-)
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 I would love to get one of these in my lads Ripcord but there's no way I'm drilling the frame for cable routing, also how many gravel bikes have internal dropper cable routing? Mine certainly does not.
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 Going through the comment section, this is going to cause soooo many returns for one up. If I was them, I wouldn´t accept any of it, if you don´t understand the numbers, ask for advice before you buy, not after.
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 Hallelujah! At a leggy 6'2" I've dreamed of one day having a seat post collar at the frame. Based on my calculations, this post should pretty much get me there on my XL Sentinel. Order already placed!
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 So psyched on this! I'm right at 182cm tall (a hair under 6') and currently run a 210mm dropper, but I still have about 15cm (6") of seatpost exposed! I ride a size large frame.
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 Regarding the 70/90mm for gravel, the majority of those frames are 27.2mm, so no go...

But that 240mm, Holy Moses!
  • 2 0
 Liteville gravel bike is 34 ohoh
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 @Lagr1980: Oh, those frames exist, just not the most common size.
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 Hoping that 90mm post comes in a 27.2 for my kid's bike!
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 @derekr: I know Easton & Shimano make 27.2mm droppers. Both on the pricey side though, the Shimano more so... I think they both max. out at 70mm.

I also seem to remember PNW & Brand-X make longer 27.2 droppers.
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 @derekr: Crankbrothers Highline comes in several 27.2 dia lengths that would likely work for your kid's bike
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 Need a 90mm 30.9 for kid's bike. I'll be grabbing one once they're available.
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 @derekr: Tranz-X (and all those brands that rebrand it) has a 105mm 27.2 dropper,and it works great.
I have two.
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 @krka73: Thanks! I see PNW does have a 90mm kids post!

She currently has a Brand-x 70mm that works great. Was going to get her one a bit longer and give the 70mm to her brother.
  • 2 0
 That cute little dropper would pair nicely with @mattwragg 's tiny water bottle
  • 2 0
 What? Only 240? Radness does not begin until at least 300. C’mon OneUp! Get with it!
  • 2 0
 Bike companies need to start reporting seat post insertion length on their geo charts now...
  • 1 0
 Godzilla rang up, he'd like a 260mm next please. But in all seriousness its great proper long travel posts are finally here.
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 OneUp has just one upped the competition for sure! Can’t wait for the 300mm version.
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 Thanks OneUp! Tired of getting made fun of for lowering and raising my dropper on rides.
  • 3 1
 When you want to look like you’re on stilts. On a saddle.
  • 3 0
 FINALLY. This is sick.
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 I'll be eagerly waiting in the buy/sell section for a good deal on someone's 210mm post!
  • 3 0
 You're right. I have an XXL Spire on its way to me with a 210 that will be pulled out immediately for this 240. You should see it in a week or two.
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 Meant convex pedals. An acquired taste…..
  • 3 0
 Thank you OneUp!
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 about time we see mid 200's for droppers... Just orderd 3 240mms for my bikes. cant wait.
  • 2 0
 can't wait for the trailclones post about ths haha
  • 1 0
 Fox and Rockshox will now probably launch their $400 revolutionary new 240mm posts in 2025
  • 1 0
 im not that tall and my bike is not that small. Neither i am i that short and my bike so small. good effort though
  • 1 0
 I'm 6'4 trying to figure out what height of dropper to use on a low slung bike the 210 could work
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 These OneUp posts are by far the best I have ever used!! Keep killing it guys!!
  • 1 0
 well , now there is def, no excuse for creating bikes with unnecessarily tall C-T's.
  • 1 0
 240 is dope, crazy much for most large and under riders but still, it is dope.
  • 1 0
 I think the 90mm post gets a bit too little attention. It is perfect for kids bikes!
  • 1 0
 It would be great as lightweight+budget XC option too, but for some reason 90mm claimed weight is the same as 120mm.
  • 2 0
 Where is 27,2? C'mon OneUp.
  • 1 0
 Now if we could get an AXS dropper post with more than 170mm travel! (Love the oneup, using a 210 myself)
  • 1 0
 This will be perfect for my Sick Bicycle Gnarcissist when it finally turns up.
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 Damn! The 240mm is sold out in the 34.9 diameter size =(((( Anyone wants to sell me one, let me know =)
  • 1 0
 Thats that muh fuggin stick boi
  • 1 0
 Damn that's enough drop for someone like Reggie Miller.
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 What a bold an unexpected move! We wish you all the best for the 240mm post! Keep up the good work over at OneUp.
  • 2 0
 Will we see a Bikeyoke with more than 213mm drop? Wink
For me easily sufficient, still riding two excellent revives with 185mm. Asking out of interest.
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 Maybe a 241mm version?
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flag Sacki (Feb 2, 2022 at 8:55) (Below Threshold)
 @stella10: Not likely. Well, at least not in 30.9/31.6.
I am personally seeing too much trouble with such long extension and a 30.9 chassis.
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 BOUGHT. FRIGGEN. TIME. Fire it up
  • 1 0
 Bout to list a bunch of 210s in the buy/sell
  • 1 0
 That's some huuuge dildo there...
  • 1 0
 *sits and waits in the buy/sell for a cheap used 210mm dropper*
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 Dick Pound
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 I want a 100 dollar dropper for my gravel bike... cuz I know the mud will destroy is very very quickly.
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 Fenders.
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 @HollyBoni: Impossible.
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 Clearly you haven’t gone mountain biking in the rain before. Super muddy. Dropper still works perfectly after countless rainy, muddy rides.

But longevity (also longevity in the mid) also matters a lot. I run a PNW post now and I know people who run TranzX or Bontrager and their droppers work perfectly fine as well after muddy rides. Whereas all my friends who use cheap droppers (ie ZTTO Zoom), and their droppers normally need frequent servicing or just fail annually.
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 @louiefriesen: I just don't want to lose Monica!
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 theres 60 $ droppers on aliexpress. tried one, hated it, ready for the bin after half a season. no spare parts, no chance for rebuild, laser engravings on the stanchion. utter BS in terms of construction.

all my 200 $ droppers are very much worth their price and have no problems with muddy or rainy conditions.
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 @nullzwo: A nice, $200 dropper is 100% worth it.
  • 1 3
 i was right!
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