SRAM's New Unreleased Drivetrain Leaked on Craigslist

Jan 10, 2023 at 12:14
by Henry Quinney  


In a world of spy-shots and social media fudges, it often feels like most things have been done - intentionally or not. Well, if you think you've seen it all then think again.

In a quickly taken down advert on Craigslist, an unknown vendor in San Francisco was selling what looked to be the yet-to-be-released SRAM direct mount derailleur and redesigned shifter. It's described in the advert's blurb as "Top of the line in the SRAM line... High performance and lightweight... Also very atheistically [sic] pleasing..."

As the branding on the items would suggest, the advert confirms the units are of the XX1 tier.

The prototype that's been seen during the 2022 season...

And the mech that was posted on Craigslist.

What that translates to is a mech that looks very much like the one we've seen in SRAM's Blackbox prototype program. The direct mount interface, which will replace the hanger entirely, should provide a stiffer structure that could translate to better shifting.

The new shifter is vastly different from the current model and offers lots more adjustment.

The big takeaway from this though could well be the refreshed shifter. Ergonomically, this seems to be now unbridled by the expectation that an electronic shifter should in some way be constrained by the design cues of a standard cable-operated shifter. This shifter is very different. It's simply two buttons on a rounded unit. We can now also confirm from the pictures that will mate nicely with the current SRAM Matchmaker system while also giving plenty of adjustment options for riders looking to fine-turn the fit.

BNIB.


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273 Comments

  • 261 9
 Rouge welder industry insider
  • 315 0
 "Rogue" unless maybe you mean they're wearing blush?
  • 147 0
 SRAM ROUGE
  • 29 0
 @Mtmw: ROUGE ETAP XX
  • 11 0
 Calling Tonkatruck
  • 119 10
 Pinkbike "tech editors" must have VitalMTB on constant refresh. Every "insider scoop" is from their forums.
  • 15 0
 @bikerbarrett: Could it be... the fiendish work of The Scarlet Pimpernel perhaps??
  • 15 3
 @bikerbarrett: Between that and “atheistically” in the Craigslist post I’m not sure what’s going on…
  • 23 2
 @jaydawg69: [Your account has been suspended by the administrators of Pinkbike for violating section 10.3.7 “Disparagement” clause]
  • 19 3
 @cuban-b: oh well, my account was suspended once 'for trolling' cause I downvoted someone with the outside + badge when they came up...
  • 13 3
 @jaydawg69: seeing that it was posted on vital 4 hours ago and this article was up when I got into work this morning at 8:30, unless PB has access to a time travel device…
  • 7 3
 @iiman: Does this really happen? Genuine question, I'm not saying it doesn't. Just I've said some fairly brutal stuff in the past, and the most concerning thing that ever happened was once one of the Pinkbike staff DM'd me to congratulate me, haha.
  • 2 0
 @iiman: You definitely deserved it. Wink
  • 5 6
 @gabriel-mission9: 100%. Funny enough I genuinely downvoted the guy cause he was talking shit lol
This was the time when the badges were new and they where downvoted because f*ck Outside, my guess is some mod got tired of rutinely being downvoted into oblivion.
  • 10 5
 @iiman: Thats pretty messed up. f*ck Outside+
  • 43 0
 @gabriel-mission9: I was suspended for 60 days one time for not asking for soup correctly. I now order the mulligatawny without eye contact.
  • 4 0
 @DBone95: but it didn’t come with bread!
  • 8 0
 @DBone95: NEXT!!!
  • 10 2
 @nickkozak: that’s false. It wasn’t posted on pb in the am. It came up on pb pretty close to the same time as vital and if you go to vital, one of the forum members discovered it. The PB editors definitely did not discover it.
  • 2 1
 @DBone95: Old guys upvoting this hard...
  • 3 4
 @JTepic: I don’t feel old. Admittedly, I’ve watched Seinfeld just about every night of the past week. lol
  • 2 0
 @Corinthian: is he in heaven, or is he in hell, that damned elusive Pimpernel.
  • 1 0
 Or a recently-laid-off Specialized employee.
  • 3 0
 Simultaneously says it’s the best shifter and derailleur on the market then says but I prefer Shimano.

Never heard of someone selling their Raptor because they are really a Prius guy.

  • 1 0
 @el-greffe: a more apt comparison would be Tacoma vs F150
  • 176 1
 "Best derailleur on the market" as the man said
Except it not on the Market lol
  • 111 4
 I like that he says that right after stating he doesn't have a need for it essentially because his Shimano "equipment" is better.
  • 45 5
 @i-like-toytles: that’s like the one believable part of this posting. (Joke)
  • 18 2
 Atheistically speaking, that ad was probably the work of goblins, and taken down by ghosts.
  • 19 0
 "Look up the price"

I LITERALLY CAN'T!!!! IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!!
  • 3 0
 I'd like to have see the QR code for the 'SRAM PDF"
  • 1 0
 @i-like-toytles: because it is lol
  • 127 11
 Here we are January 10 and we’re seeing posts about Craigslist ads.. who won the win it Wednesday that ended November of last year or any of the advent winners that were supposed to be announced 3 days ago? Cool shifter though it would go pretty good on my 2005 Schwinn stingray/chopper. Don’t you worry I got some pegs for you to stand on sweetie
  • 45 3
 Also, I don't think they ever announced the video of the year winner? Organization and follow through are lacking as of late...
  • 61 0
 The real winners were inside all of us all along.
  • 16 0
 @RonSauce: The /real/ winners were Outside+ all along
  • 3 0
 @ppp9911: That's because after Gary Young dropped his video they were embarrassed to name anyone else as the winner.
  • 4 0
 We’re they going to post all the winners, or just contact each winner? I don’t see why the winners aren’t made more public.
  • 1 0
 @robito: Catch me up on the Gary Young thing
  • 2 0
 @blowmyfuse: Boom! www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhmYsBX7eMU&t=335s
  • 1 0
 @robito: I thought you were talking about a rigged contest but you were just talking about blowing my mind
  • 82 13
 Genius PR move from someone internally. Clap clap Sram.
  • 56 2
 Why would they mention they prefer shimano? Can see the marketing team given that the ok.
  • 30 3
 @sharpy182: Yea I don't buy it. Also won't buy it.
  • 4 3
 They could use that same craigslist ad for their real advertising. Incorrect spelling and all. Didn't Apple do almost thing intentionally leaving an iphone in a restaurant for someone to find?
  • 4 0
 I actually found this on Craigslist last night and posted it on the MTBR forums. Here's my post:https://www.mtbr.com/threads/2023-xco-xcm-equiment.1211276/post-15836857
  • 3 1
 I'll bet/hope this is staged like 50% of the stuff on social media platforms...
  • 1 0
 @cbenj42: And you didn't start a whole new post about it?
  • 3 0
 @sharpy182: Waiting on the new wireless XTR/XT anyway. Haha.
  • 1 0
 @n1ck: this is not going to happen. patents, you know...
  • 2 1
 I would have voted for a cycling press editor currently under an NDA but that is pressed by his boss to write articles during the slow news period. It easy to remove the test part from the bike, take crappy pictures and create a short lived fake craiglist ad pretending it is someone else, then create an article about it like it was some sort of discovery.
  • 1 0
 @n1ck: thought SRAM had the patent from completely wireless?
  • 3 0
 My friend actually saw the listing as he’d bought gx Axs from this guy previously. Turns out he works at Santa Cruz
  • 69 0
 I quit Craigs List when they got rid of the "Casual Encounters" section...
  • 3 0
 Same same. What a bummer.
  • 21 4
 @generictrailrider: or no bummers.
  • 1 0
 That this comment now has 69 likes is gold!
  • 62 1
 Oh, Craig never disappoints. For the full experience, I hope someone offers a "for parts" 1987 KX250 or a lifted '98 Toyota Sienna. Maybe some FTX or NFTs to sweeten the deal.

- Some Nigerian Prince
  • 49 0
 I once got offer 50 non working lawnmowers in exchange for a non working car.
  • 44 0
 What if I throw in some bald tires and a full DVD set smallville?



Oh and can you drive here bro? I don't have a license anymore.
  • 10 0
 @93EXCivic: did you take the deal? was the car a 93 Civic? I bought a Civic once for 250$ and 25$ on the first of each month, if was still driving it.
  • 9 0
 @shredddr: 1979 MG Midget and no I didn't want to deal with 50 lawn mowers running or not.
  • 16 0
 I once had a guy offer me some reloading equipment and a live pig for a used dirt bike.
  • 7 0
 I once swapped a table for a Nissan Micra. It even had half a tank of petrol.
  • 26 0
 was the pig used?
  • 9 0
 @blinglespeed: "Ran when parked"
  • 17 0
 @93EXCivic: idk, sounds like you’d have 50 backup engines for the mg
  • 5 0
 Everyone has a kid offering you a PS4 for whatever you're selling.
  • 2 0
 I always get the guys offering me weed, and lots of it. But I also live in Oregon so ‍♂️
  • 2 0
 @codypup: I can appreciate reloading equipment and live pigs! Not many others may..lol
  • 1 0
 @blinglespeed: can't stop laughing at this. . .
  • 6 0
 @christophsride: "Ran when porked"
  • 1 0
 "1987 KX250" I had one of those. :-)
  • 1 0
 @jgottya1: I'm down with those items in trade too. The chicken people would trade their pricey eggs for those items.
  • 57 1
 Next up: "spy shots" of unreleased components on the dresser in the background of OnlyFans streams.
  • 4 0
 if they use cortney palm, i'll see them first.
  • 1 0
 @savagelake: Whoa, hey, she has an OF? She's like a hotter Aubrey Plaza.
  • 1 0
 @savagelake: Mrs Palmer
  • 2 5
 @mountainjew: and her five lovely daughters
  • 1 0
 @Judith22: sure does. and u have great taste, my friend!
  • 48 0
 I once purchased a brand new Black Box fork on ebay. Didn't know it was Black Box until I sent it into RockShox for service. They got back to me and were like......... Where did you get this from ? It had prototype internals that were not meant for release. They sent it back to me, but I'm assuming they took the secret bits out.
  • 23 4
 I certainly hope not. In no way can a company steal from an individual without approval. Even if they did take those parts out they should've sent them back to you.
  • 17 2
 @PHeller: sure, in principal, but he didn't even know what internals were in the fork to begin with, so he'd have no way to know whether they swapped something out.
  • 30 0
 Also possible that they were prototype and inferior, replacing them could have been an upgrade.
  • 8 3
 @JSTootell: good point, just because something is prototype/blackbox doesn't necessarily mean it's better than stuff that makes it to production. And if it's stuff that's tuned for their pros/racers there's a good chance it could be poorly suited to the needs of an average joe
  • 24 0
 I had a similar experience when I bought a float x2 on PB. When I was trying to get the right mounting hardware I sent them the 4 letter code and they were like "That's for team riders only where did you get that?"
I'm like, some guy in Canada on Pinkbike and that's all I would say... lol
  • 22 3
 @ksilvey10: good on you for not throwing the seller under the bus
  • 9 1
 @thegoodflow: Seth did a video on this problem a few weeks back. Basically industry bids get sent so many parts and bikes to test, and there’s no legal way to get rid of them. The manufacturers don’t want them back, but they’re not the persons property to sell either. Lots of them end up on the grey market.
  • 2 3
 @BarneyStinson: I'm no expert on property law, but if someone lends me something and then says they don't want it back, I'll consider it my property and will have no qualms about selling it... sue me
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: apparently that’s what happens, normally through a third party.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: I wasn't gonna do that. I was stoked when I found out although I highly doubt it was a significantly different tune than off the shelf. It wasn't life-changing.
  • 1 0
 @ksilvey10: wasn't gonna do what?
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: snitch
  • 48 0
 Best on the market, but I don't like it because I ride Shimano.
  • 24 1
 In all fairness, same. But I refuse electronic parts on my bike still.
  • 5 3
 @adrennan: No, I'm saying that's what the ad says. I personally couldn't give a shit.
  • 4 2
 @adrennan: You make it sound like your local bike shop are forcing you to have them, haha
  • 3 0
 @adrennan: I just refuse to have the most easily breakable part of my bike be over $75
  • 2 0
 @gravitybass: I have gone through more wheels than any other part of my bike combined, excluding tires (which might be a tie with the wheels, excluding normal wear). Still haven't broken a derailleur on my MTB.
  • 40 0
 I WOULD say it is athiestically pleasing. Or not. Maybe I'm a nihilist.
  • 40 0
 I'm holding out for the monotheistically pleasing model.
  • 18 0
 That must be exhausting.
  • 25 0
 @lessgearsmorebeers: I mean, say what you want about the tenets of mechanical shifting... at LEAST it's an ethos.
  • 17 1
 And WHERE are the Christian-based derailleurs?!?
  • 15 0
 @garrettstories: would that be single-speed-ism?
  • 4 0
 @taprider: One derailleur. Imagine the horror of Hindi or Buddhist derailleurs. Wait....that's kind of what we have now. Eh, I don't care anyway.
  • 5 0
 @lessgearsmorebeers: (floats in pool with whiskey)
  • 16 0
 @taprider: The one, true cog. You shall have no other cogs before me. ExoduSS 1:1
  • 10 0
 Nihilist : We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing. And tomorrow we come back, and we cut this off your Bronson!!!
  • 5 0
 look, I refuse to pray to any god that I have enough battery to make that last shift.......
  • 7 0
 @mab411: Saint groupo: hold my de-alcoholized beer...
  • 3 0
 @rrolly: The shifting system for straight edgers? Ian Mackaye approves.
  • 1 0
 @chezotron: He broke Edge decades ago.
  • 2 0
 Sounds exhausting
  • 2 0
 I'd profer something a little more agnostically pleasing. Don't know if I believe it's be a shimano or a sram, but I suspect it's out there
  • 34 0
 I found this and posted about it on the MTBR forums last night. Here's my original post: www.mtbr.com/threads/2023-xco-xcm-equiment.1211276/post-15836857

Hey @henryquinney, I'll sell PinkBike the story next time I spot something
  • 7 0
 Typical Pinkbike
  • 5 0
 @cbenj42 why did you bury it on page 7 of an XCO-XCM thread and not start an entire new post?
  • 36 0
 $725…. I’ve got a feeling we’ve just missed a bargain. Hate to think what the RRP is going to be.
  • 3 0
 At least $1k
  • 29 0
 Now with 100% more functional clutch (2x0=0)
  • 28 7
 Prefers riding Shimano.... that guy knows what's up.
  • 16 0
 Ken Lousberg (probably):
Everybody Line up your F&%king bikes! Anyone with a repaired weld or custom frame is FIRED! you hear me? F*^KING FIRED!
  • 2 0
 The funny part is that it was definitely a prototype frame the person welded up so they were probably given it directly from the company! Sram gonna be mad lol.
  • 17 0
 frank the welder is trying to cash in on his industry contacts.
  • 1 0
 He’s East coast now, moved to Vermont.
Maybe Sycip or Ingles?
  • 1 1
 Someone who was contracted to weld for Sick? They didn't have money so gave him parts and sold the bike as a singlespeed.
  • 16 1
 leaked? even saw it on a fellow racers bike in a very low profile enduro race back in September. he already had one of those rubber buttons missing on the shifter lol
  • 17 1
 Ex Twitter employees need to make a buck somehow tup
  • 10 13
 Virtue signalling don't pay the bills no more.
  • 8 3
 Can't believe Elon fired all the welders as well
  • 11 0
 We should start a betting pool : How much will this piece of kit (derailleur + shifter combo) cost out of the gate?
a: 1500USD
b: 1000USD
c: 750USD
d: Who cares ? / SRAM GX wireless combo will be sold for 300$ to mere mortals Wink
  • 6 1
 E: I already have GX axs and I don't need anything better.
  • 14 1
 e: Who cares? I don't want any electronics on my bike
  • 9 0
 I misread "piece of kit" at first glance Big Grin
  • 15 1
 How many people clicked on the screen shot of the CL listing to see the other photos?
  • 12 0
 Some Specialized or Santa Cruz employee is getting hauled into the principal's office right now.
  • 13 0
 Pinkbike Tabloids
  • 12 0
 Stolen?
  • 75 0
 Nope. Custom welding job, as the man said. Now, the welding job was to cut thru a few locks....
  • 7 0
 @hamncheez: You're likely right, but we're talking Scotts Valley here and around the Santa Cruz area a lot of sketchy, sus shit happens on the regular.
  • 2 1
 @ohbmxer: Joke / your head
  • 2 1
 @ohbmxer: Scotts Valley/SC area has lots of bike industry too... and a lot of pros do riding and product testing there lets not assume the worst of people
  • 6 0
 @dylananderson: It sent up red flags to me. Pros know what this is. The description sounds like someone stole it and looked up the current gen price/specs. Lots of pros in the area with test equipment just makes it more plausible that some of those test products got stolen.
  • 5 0
 I heard that it allows to preselect gears and senses chain tension (so it changes gear when you actually start pedaling) and it's supposed to be a game changer. I heard about it in September, quite amazing that it did not leak before.
  • 1 3
 Not only is it wireless, it's also an automatic drivetrain. Pretty cool
  • 7 0
 Wonder if he’ll catch this article in time to double his asking price lol
  • 7 0
 $725 to be first civilian to experience pure Atheistic Pleasure? Please, please, take my money!
  • 4 0
 The posting was taken down I saw it and was trying to buy it. Im local to Scott’s valley and also have screen shot. I wish I was faster to it was up for 17 hrs at 10:58. Do know what time it went down but to lucky person who bought it you beat me to it.
  • 7 0
 "atheistically pleasing" what if you're religious?
  • 3 0
 You will feel pleasure but you'll start to question the existence of any deity.
  • 1 0
 @barp: ...and guilt, don't forget the guilt!
  • 2 0
 As an atheist, I did find it pleasing. At no point did he claim it couldn't be theistically pleasing too.
  • 4 0
 Next up, "poor weld job for sale. I got it in exchange for a mech we used for destructive testing. I prefer brazed tubing so this is your chance to obtain a unique piece of welding".
  • 2 0
 I'm pretty excited about the shifter ergonomics now that we have a look. I find them a bit lacking on the current version with either rocker paddle attached. I don't think the team doing the contact points for the drop bar group was the same one doing the mtb shifter.
  • 2 0
 Agreed. AD-Biking's aftermarket Upshift paddles are a game changer on the current gen, and I'm glad that SRAM is trying something meaningfully different with v2.

www.ad-biking.com/product/sram-axs-upshift
  • 1 0
 @ThermalAttorney: I have never seen that before. It looks like a massive improvement. Thanks for the share!
  • 5 0
 Man...that is a good looking derailluer
  • 2 0
 I want to know more about the cassette. That pic of Anton’s bike makes it look like maybe they’ve changed the jumps between gears so you don’t have an 8 or 10 tooth jump into the big cog. That’s cool.
  • 4 0
 Buy it - Just buy it! Then review it!
  • 3 0
 mtb version of the iPhone 4 leak!
  • 1 0
 I think they already have it in test, from the looks of it it's ready to be released
  • 4 0
 PB almost certainly has someone in their crew testing these.
  • 1 0
 @IMeasureStuff: Fair enough!
  • 1 0
 @IMeasureStuff: They do.
  • 4 0
 Sram would probably buy it back off him for 10 times what his asking
  • 5 1
 I think Alibaba is selling these
  • 3 1
 Yup the Chinese having been stealing intellectual property for a very looong time.
  • 6 1
 god damnit craig
  • 5 0
 How the hell you gonna get fired.....on your day off????
  • 5 2
 Is that direct to frame mount a huge red flag to anyone else? Can't wait to see all the cracked chainstay posts it'll bring.
  • 3 2
 I don't that'll be much of an issue. All of the forces should be transferred to the thru-axle, not the frame
  • 3 0
 I wonder the same thing, however the axle runs through the mount, so potentially that’ll help add some strength to the system. If you hit it hard enough, is the b-knuckle replaceable or do you have to scrap a $800 derailleur?
  • 1 3
 not in the slightest, im no engineer but I bet my 3200g frame is a lot stronger than a 400g derailleur that mounts to it using about 4mm of material...
  • 1 0
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: From the drawings I've seen of those derailleurs, I do believe it is replaceable. Time will tell what, if any, downsides there are to this setup.
  • 2 2
 So the groupset is so undesireable that someone who had a brand-new early-access to it, decided to trade it for some welding work. And the welder, who is a rider, decided to hock it on Craigslist for pennies on the dollar, citing they would rather ride Shimano. Hmmmm...
  • 5 1
 prefers shimano based
  • 1 0
 Wonder if they will have a cable pull model with the same mount or if it's going to be AXS only. Certainly looks more compact and out of the way than current Eagle design.
  • 2 0
 Used prototype sram e-derailleur and shifter.. Customers who purchased this also purchased: ED meds
  • 1 0
 Ron Roskopp first posts a NON-Santa Cruze-bike on his IG and now he's posting pre=production SRAM goodies. Go Rob, Go Rob, go!!... Smile
  • 2 0
 Atheistically pleasing haha
  • 3 1
 Shifter looks like one of the knockoffs
  • 1 1
 Betting it's from someone who was dropped by sram and now doesn't/can run it on their new bike. Or they're super salty about their contract having ended....
  • 2 0
 This oozes marketing ploy... but hey at least its funny
  • 1 0
 Can anybody get a read on that 2D barcode for the owners manual? (SRAM employee rushes to make that link non-public)
  • 2 0
 Well someone's getting fired...
  • 2 0
 I tried clicking on the other pictures. LOL
  • 1 0
 I sent the images to CSI Chicago, they confirmed that could be a specialized dog bed the images were shot on.
  • 2 0
 i dont understand the shifter ergonomics. need to see it on a bar
  • 1 0
 All this new standard and it’s still 12 speed? Can we get new Code RSCs first? They are great but they could be better!
  • 4 4
 Why would you want 13 speed? Are you stupid?
  • 1 2
 I want 14 speed. @thegoodflow:
  • 3 5
 "The big takeaway from this though could well be the refreshed shifter"

Not sure anybody gives a toss about Sram's shifters?

The real takeaway is that they designed a universal derailleur hanger in what looked like a rare genuinely smart, wholesome move in MTB product development - and are now superseding it themselves within a couple of years. WTF?
  • 11 0
 This mounts directly where the udh goes. It’s a clever way to have frame makers build frames around the design so you can create this product. It also helps a ton with proprietary hangers and is a net positive whether they created these derailleurs or not
  • 4 3
 @Solorider13: OK so if it's the same fitment as the UDH I will untwist my knickers on the subject Big Grin
  • 4 0
 @Solorider13: 100%. Universal derailleur are nothing but a positive to consumers, its honestly baffling why there wasn't a standard for so long. Who cares if SRAM benefits as well from it as long as its a positive for us as well
  • 2 0
 I bet this is a marketing scheme
  • 2 1
 SRAM knocking at the door with broken knuckles, holding a broken reverb wrapped in snapped eagle chains.
  • 2 0
 Some reviewer’s going to be put on the naughty list.
  • 1 0
 So basically, SRAM (or PinkBike) has a Craigslist account they use to “leak” news? How revolutionary
  • 1 0
 At least he used break and not brake. More than I can expect from most on pinkbike
  • 1 0
 It'll fall into the hands of the chinese and they'll make knock off parts easily that will be sold on e-Bay.
  • 1 1
 Congradulations! you have just sold this to the highest bidder! instant sell
  • 2 1
 On sale on Alibaba from tomorrow.
  • 8 7
 i love braking my $600 unit rather than a $20 hanger...
  • 13 4
 Between the overload clutch, being further inboard, and the fact the derailluer is rumors to be modular, this really isn't going to be as big of an issue as you think...but it's pinkbike, bitch away about change.
  • 17 0
 I love braking with brakes. Given that brake / break are top-10, most used MTB verbs, how is it possible for PB errorists stay confused year after year after year?
  • 3 0
 “Detachable connection interfaces of the family members to adjacent sub-assemblies of the module within the sub-assembly are configured uniformly across family members for the respective sub-assembly in such a way that a family member of the sub-assembly family module is exchangeable for another family member of the same sub-assembly family that, is for example, of different material, of different design, of different functionality, of has different surface properties, while retaining the remaining sub-assemblies of the module.”
This is straight from the Sram patent. It sounds to me that Sram will sell parts of the derailleur so you don't have to buy a new one, you will just have to replace the broken/damaged part/parts.
  • 7 1
 @cookiemonster615: Cool, instead of buying a $25 hanger, now you can buy a $100 sub-assembly.
  • 4 5
 @barp: don't get me wrong, I won't ever be buying any $600 electric derailleurs, but der hangers protect frames, not derailleurs... If you hit your derailleur hard enough to bend the hanger your derailleur will likely be toast anyway.
  • 5 1
 @thegoodflow: In my professional experience, bent hangers are way more common than bent derailleurs.
  • 7 4
 @barp: I was gonna argue with you and then I realized I'll only be running Shimano 11 speed for years to come, I don't have to fix other people's bikes for money anymore, none of this matters, and I just don't care. Cheers!
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 @thegoodflow: Beer
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 @barp: Yes. You do have a point and I believe this derailleur is a solution to two non-problems. 1: It's supposed to improve shift performance which wasn't a problem for AXS. 2: It's also supposed to "save the planet". It won't because the vast majority of riders will stick with hanger-mounted derailleurs unless they break one or buy a new bike. Also, you'll be throwing away more metal with the new derailleurs than with the old ones because you'll be replacing two or more parts instead of one. I will not be wasting my money for possibly marginal gains, just to be clear.
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 @bmied31: I wonder if the screws will corrode/seize or the heads will round like lock on grips? I can't picture them coming out easy
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 The devil is in the details.
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 A new opening at SANTA CRUZ is now available...
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 Where is the winner of video of the year ?
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 Doesn't come with the flat-top chain though, does it?
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 Let me tell you something. If you don’t have T Type Freewheel, You can’t used it on your bike.
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 Also it’s pleasing to atheists!
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 Sram XXX, too much for the internet need that premium to see it lmao
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 so now you have to replace a rear derailleur not a rear derailleur hanger... direct mount is the way to move the cycling economy.....
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 Thank science that it’s pleasing to atheists
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 Actually, I don't think atheistically was a typo, given the context.
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 Was the box made in kindergarten?lol total scam
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 Me-will this work on 2x10?
Sram-what?
Everyone else-hmmmm….
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 Whatever. This screams guerilla marketing to me.
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 cmon someone buy it!
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 Also: GEARBOX
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 So we're finally getting bike brands on board with the Sram UDH and now we're going to direct mount?
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 This direct mount attaches to UDH compatible frames. Whole reason sram did the UDH in the first place, so the interface for this direct mount would already be in existence on the market.
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 Rincon lot legends saw it this morning groms..and no you can't join.
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 Buy now….delivery in 1-2 years
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 Amazing!!
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 How is that going to mount on any current bike? Also... some SRAM employee just worked their last day.
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 Will work on any bike that is specced with Sram UDH, mounts in place of the hanger.
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 @JarrodB: OOO Gotchya
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 Still won’t use sram out of choice
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 A real smooth move by SRAM, wethinks.
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 This for real or is early April fools today?
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 Eeew its electric.
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 Boogie woogie woogie
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 anyone got the link?
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 " In a quickly taken down advert on Craigslist "
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 @oldfartwannabembker: ah my fault
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