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Henry Quinney's Transition Spire
Last year, at the 2021 summer field test we had some haywired and noisy e-bikes that I complained about, a very well-meaning GT, a Norco downhill bike with its enduro skates on, and a YT and We Are One that checked the boxes of direct-to-consumer and boutique respectively. However, it was a Transition Spire that, for me, won the day. It was the most well-rounded and high-performing enduro bike I'd ever ridden up until that point and it has become my go-to for just about everything.
Since then, I've ridden it on three continents and eight countries. After such high praise initially, I thought it was high time we checked back in and see if I'm still waxing lyrical about the wonders of an enduro bike with a head angle as low as 62.5-degrees, or if my enthusiasm had to start to relent and the love had turned sour.
Spire Details• Intended use: mountain biking
• Travel: 170mm rear / 170mm fork
• Wheel size: 29"
• Frame construction: carbon fiber
• 63° head angle
• 480 mm reach and 446 mm stays in low
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transitionbikes.com FrameOf the current bike setup, perhaps the only thing to stay the same is the frame and saddle. The paintwork of the bike is holding up reasonably well. It's not perfect but it is a
very well-used bike at this point. Sadly, the culprit for most of the damage has been riding through gravel-strewn snow, but it's a mountain bike and these things happen.
So, is this still the BeSt bIkE EvEr?! Well, it's certainly my favourite. I think it's the most versatile enduro bike I've ridden, and that stretches across everything from seated climbs, scrambling for traction up wet tech, as well as being a very considered, confidence-inspiring and well-mannered descender. Everything about the geometry of this bike just makes you feel at home, and often takes the edge off intimidating features. And, let's be frank, that is what the monster 170 mm 29" wheeled enduro bike is for. I balk somewhat at bikes with that much travel that aren't confidence-inspiring in the extreme. In the trade-off on trail bikes, I understand that sometimes things might get a little skitter, but that shouldn't be a consideration when bikes in this category have this much travel, this much grip, and potentially weigh more than a downhill bike.
The geometry is comfortable for me, although I would be tempted at times to try it perhaps even a little bit shorter. At 183 cm I'm not wholly on the bandwagon for making bikes as long as possible. I'm starting to think that 480 or 485 mm is good for a large, but only if the weight distribution has been reigned in with long stays, such as the 446 mm rear end on the Spire.
Although that rear-centre might seem extreme to some, I love the Spire's geometry because it's actually just so easy, and all the checks and balances are there. A high front lets your body move freely on steep terrain without being pulled forward. A steep seat tube and relatively short effective top tube means wrestling that long front centre through tight switchbacks becomes less about putting the front end in a choke hold, and more about lightly gesturing your intention through your shoulders. I actually run this bike in the high setting of the flip-chip. I felt that in low, which is a head angle of 62.5 degrees it didn't feel as if there was enough weight on the front through turns, and you could feel threaten to wash under braking load. I don't think 62.5 degrees is too slack, but rather in the larger picture of balance it was too slack for me and the way I ride.
Stability and balance are different things. Balance is a point where things are finely strung - stability is the ability to resist forces that might want to disrupt the balance. The Spire has both in buckets.
I love the Spire because it's a very well-made and well-thought-out
extreme bike. If you listen to System of a Down, it might not be for you, but you can't deny how well-made it is. The Spire is
Chop Suey, so well made, with so much care and thought that even its arresting aesthetic shouldn't put you off the functioning music and strong melodies. Even though the geometry sheet might raise eyebrows, it all adds up.
But, what's it been like to live with? Well, I changed the bearings after a year of riding as they began to develop play. The double-stacked bearings in the stay were the main culprit before they passed on the shimmy-and-rattle to the main pivot bearing. The bearings in the linkage were still running smooth, although I swapped them all the same.
A criticism of mine would be that the 5 mm interface on some of the alloy bolts is just a bit too soft. Another would be that water can pool around the lower shock bolt. But that's it. If I waved my magic wand I'd like to include some kind of storage compartment in the downtube. I would also like internal brake routing, however, I have managed to wrangle my rear brake inside the frame, although it ain't pretty.
So that's it then? The
best bike ever? Well, for me, yeah - kinda. This is the best enduro bike I've ever ridden and it's my favourite bike I've ever had. That's not to say there aren't contenders in other categories, but for an enduro bike, and the things I ride and the way I like to ride them (read: badly) then yes - I love it still. Consider this bike check something like a retaking of vows after the review from last year.
SuspensionWorking with Pinkbike Racing this year, it quickly became apparent that the Ohlins suspension the team were using was very good, but also required a slightly different setup ethos than the Fox or RockShox setups the riders were coming off. To help my understanding I spent a few weeks in Morzine between races and just rode lap upon lap, got sunburnt, ate 7 soleros a day and slept in a luton van on a mattress with a peculiar large brown stain (apparently it was coffee but I don't know who drinks coffee in bed). I had two sponges - one labelled "ass" and the other "face" and a bucket. And that was that really.
During that time, I felt that I began to understand the quirks and personality of Ohlin's three-chamber system better. Essentially, in the fork there is a positive main chamber, a negative chamber and a ramp-up chamber. Now, the negative equalises from the main chamber pressure. You then pressurise the ramp-up chamber to fine-tune end stroke support. This system offers tunability, but also offers something of a paradox. To compress the chamber towards the end of the stroke, the main chamber has to reach a certain threshold of pressure equal to the ramp-up. That means that the harder you have the ramp-up chamber in comparison to the main, the later in the stroke it will come into play. So, to get appropriate midstroke support there is some finessing to do.
Ride height is so important, especially on tracks like Fort William or Snowshoe where smoking a crankset is very easily done. That means that although bottom-out resistance is important, midstroke support is often the trump card. Ohlins recommend a ratio of 1:2 for the main chamber and ramp-up chamber pressures. However, I found that having the ramp-up at around 150 - 180% of the main chamber (depending on the track) with the main chamber pressure slightly higher to compensate, gave not only a superbly tracking fork but also huge benefits in support, ride height and confidence. Of course, my needs are very different to those of World Cup athletes, but this idea was something that we explored with Ben Cathro and Aimi Kenyon too and I think it had a positive effect.
For the RFX 38, I've never had a fork that is so happy to ride so deep into the stroke so often and offers so much composure on big hits. I remember watching Bruni's bike and always being surprised at how visually different his fork worked compared to his rivals. Well, maybe there is a different ethos here at play after all, and I've happened on a setup that trades off conserving head angle for more chassis stability. This isn't normally the way that I'd set up a fork, but then again, the Ohlins is a fork that I feel gives enough support to give me confidence when set up in this way.
I've personally never really been one that is convinced on the constant pursuit of small bump compliance as some kind of holy grail of setup of forks. In fact, for me, it's not really
that important. I tend to run my forks harder than I perhaps should because of that and would rather put the emphasis on support and consistency than having something arbitrarily tracks over the odd pebble 3% better. However, the small bump on the Ohlins is very good, and a real positive trait that I've come to love.
So, the RFX does feel different to most other forks on most of the other bikes - and it feels fantastic, I have to say. It's something similar to the shock. That said, the setup was far easier and less finicky than the fork. Contrary to my forks, I think that small bump tracking is a priority for me on the rear if only for the security and confidence it offers when trying to slow the bike down. For a large-shaft air shock, it's impressive to see it sagging under its own weight and, compared to the Super Deluxe on the bike previously, I would say it does offer a better all round level of traction, sensitivity and support on the Spire. The Super Deluxe was great, but I felt that to get the shaft speed where I wanted it I had to throttle out tracking over bumps slightly. It was still very good but perhaps didn't cover off all the bases quite as well. The final note would be that it's also relevant to the Spire - I can't say that the comparison would be replicated in the same way on a different bike. Horses for courses.
Tires / WheelsI reviewed the Hunt Trail Wheels last winter and enjoyed the level of compliance they offered. Particularly how that felt through the hands. That said, I remarked at the time that I would like something a little laterally stiffer through the rear of the bike. Well, hey presto - we solved it. I began to run a heavier-duty, burlier and bigger axled Hunt Enduro Wide on the rear. The rim shares a similar profile but is a little wider, heavier and there are more spokes.
Largely though, they've been great. Both wheels worked out of dish over time, with the front migrating away from, and the rear towards, the drive side of the bike. Of course, that was easily remedied. After a year and-a-bit of abuse and washing, there is a steady rumble in the hubs, but consider that a fair timeline for a bearing swap.
Running the mixed wheels also has the added bonus of saving some weight, with the front wheel coming in a few hundred grams lighter than the Enduro Wide front.
I run the Continental Krypotal pairing on the bike, with a front and rear setup. I like them and feel at around 1200 g that they're about right for an enduro tire. That said, I would love to see a 1400ish-gram version available for downhill. I'm not saying it'd be for everyone but I think it would give another option.
The tires are both 2.4" and yes, they're very good. I think Conti has played a masterstroke by releasing a range covering all the bases in one fell swoop. Overnight they've gone from "Do you have a Sharpie I can borrow?" to non-Continental supported teams getting the itch of curiosity and asking how well the logos stay hidden behind paint-pen.
BrakesThe SRAM Codes can sometimes come in for some slack for being underpowered - however, that isn't a complaint I'd level at then. Yes, of course they could be more powerful - what brake couldn't? - but I think any lack of power is easily remedied with a larger front rotor, and their HS2 rotors offer a more consistent feeling than ever. I did try going to TRP 2.3 mm thickness rotors and, although they cleared the caliper, I don't think the brakes liked them. I can't quite explain it, but I felt that it actually compromised the feel at the lever and inconsistency crept in. It felt like the lever throw wasn't enough to draw oil back into the master cylinder and give a positive and consistent feeling - it's something I haven't explored or understand fully, but I know that it was scary. It turns out SRAM engineers know far better than that smug man that makes oblique culture references on YouTube - who knew? That said, it doesn't necessarily make sense in regards to the quad seal in the caliper. Internet engineers, please tell me where I've gone wrong. Obi Wan, you're my only hope.
I like the Codes for their feel and adjustment. I like a brake that can be run close to the bar while also feeling positive. Plus, I want a brake and not a light switch. I particularly appreciate this modulation in the wet, or when the dirt is merely dust-on-crust and you're really pushing on the front as you mentally denture shop and prepare to have your teeth punched out by the ground. Having the most powerful breaks is good, but having useable power is the most important thing to me.
DrivetrainHow do you know somebody is a cycling journalist? Well, presumably they'll tell you without you even asking. Failing that, they'll almost always have Cane Creek eeWings cranks.
The cranks are, of course, beautiful. I do run the BB with only the lightest smearing of grease though as I felt they did accumulate grit and grime easily. I also run the silver 25-year anniversary Crankbrothers Mallet Es. It's funny, I'm lucky enough to see a lot of new tech and often don't get overexcited - however, there was just something about the silver Mallets that captured my imagination. I thought they looked just fantastic.
After arguing with
the Mikes about AXS at every turn, what is it doing on my bike? Well, I have a theory. I think that the robotic mech is simply too powerful for some bikes, and it twists the hanger slightly. I think that this is one of the reasons for the new interface that we're seeing on pros bikes. On some bikes, AXS works flawlessly, and I mean flawlessly, but on flimsy down country bikes held together by the odd 2mm diameter bolt, some bailing twine and a fair amount of hope, a lot of the time the shifting just isn't up to par. On enduro bikes such as this though, the shift is fantastic. Plus, the wireless functionality lets me run my brake line through its internal slot and compliments the clean look even more.
The last piece is the KMC 12-speed bike chain, the Burgtec 32t chainring and the OneUp chain device. In 2022, you kind of just assume that everything works with everything, and it's a good reminder of how lucky we are that it almost always does. The chain sounds like an M2 Browning as it rattles over the chainring at even the slightest hint of moisture. If you use wet lube to try and negate this then the dirt also clings to the chain and, again, makes it sound like a spoon down a washboard. Another fun quirk is the long teeth of the chainring slightly protruding past the bash guard. Needless to say, they didn't last long. I don't like the word
ecosystem when it comes to bikes. However, I do think there is something to be said for just running a complete setup. The SRAM chainring that came on the bike had slightly shorter teeth and stayed safely nestled under the protection of the bash. Plus, it was also silent.
Contact PointsOn the front of the bike, I run some mid-skinny Race Face grips. I like the shape and channelled texture. I don't always go for skinny grips, but these are absolutely on the money. I think there is a sweet spot for grip strength and grip diameter. Sometimes grip can feel very comfortable but it only takes a little bit of extra cushion to reduce how much force your fingers can pull with. The texture rides well in the wet and after being on multiple bikes for over a year I think they're holding up very well.
The bars are OneUp's carbon bar. I just like the shape. The bar is paired to OneUp's 50mm stem length. I felt it just calmed down the front a little to have a longer stem, which is 10 mm longer than the stock one. Plus, I liked the slightly longer distance from the saddle when seated.
I also changed the 180mm OneUp post to the 210mm one, before shimming it down to 200mm. The saddle is the same stock one that came on the bike. I run a Garmin because I'm a nerd desperately seeking to find meaning in the world and staring at how many meters I've climbed, before having to explain what this even means as I talk about it to friends and family, is one way to do that.
For accessories, I sometimes cable tie a small pump to the Nukeproof Carbon bottle cage. The cage itself is a lesson in humility itself. When my last cage started dropping bottles while riding in Morzine, my friend and I went to a bike shop. The only options on the wall were versions of the same cage that was proving itself incapable of holding a bottle, $5 metal ones and this $40ish dollar carbon wonder. I deliberated, tempted by the sheer indulgence of that raw carbon, and I was eventually goaded by my friend to spend a not-inconsiderable amount on a cage as a treat. Needless to say, the tab at the top snapped off immediately on the first day. Funnily though, it still works and makes entry even easier and available from both sides.
How's It Ride?Absolutely-bloody-wonderful.
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There. Enough learnings for today.
In all seriousness, if I worked in the industry as a journo, I'd probly really value my solo ride time as well. Never the less, shit talkin with ur pals is a lot of fun! Backyard racing even more so. So, uh, see ya at the bottom, sucker.
And a bomber big mountain sled.
And a comfortable all day climber.
Which is weird.
Sometimes I forget it’s 170 till I need it to be.
Than I’m glad it is.
group rides on a transition spire; forget about it
Should be coming very soon.
Hell even can hit up Bach alright. Just get a Push 11/6 and it would be amazing.
Just got a V3 Wreckoning with a Push and it is an amazing bike.
@BiNARYBiKE: Well f*ck, there goes my assurance
Thanks @henryquinney. Two excellent if not totally encompassing articles in under a week… did you goto another mushroom party again or is this just a streak ?
I'm not a reviewer, and i'm not a pro. I find the bikes don't feel all that different in practice. They all pedal pretty great (a tad less good on the chicoltin unless you lock out). They all are great going down, jumping, etc. They all have a few little different things that aren't all that important. They all feel smaller than they really are and they're all really light for what you get. I'm honestly not sure which of the 3 is my favorite.
Thiss the best bike I have ever owned by a long shot end the numbers don't feel nearly as radical as they would seem; this bike is spot on. The only gripe is that the long wheelbase can be a bit to handle in tight, climbing situations, but really not a lot to complain about. Also, transition customer service is killer, although I am a bellingham local
And they're half the price.
Autocorrect did a doozy on me. I guess I should read before submitting
Did you try the MegNeg on the Super Deluxe? I have a bike with similar kinematics and found that the added midstroke support matched the supportive fork well.
Agree with your sentiments in regards to lever throw - however, when bleeding the system, the pads would still have to pump out to meet the 2.3 rotors, which I found strange. I'm operating on the assumption that if the quad seal's range is uninhibited then that would be enough for the lever? But yeah, quite odd.
Re: the rotor thing, that is super interesting that it felt different even though you had to pump the pads out to the rotor. As you say, this means there is plenty of room for the pads to retract etc.
I still maintain there's no way the calliper can tell the difference between .3mm of extra thickness on the rotor, and .3mm extra thickness on the pads (and wearing the pads that much doesn't change lever feel, so neither should a thicker rotor). Currently I can't explain why the lever feel would be different. Something else must have changed.
Could you describe in more detail how the lever feel changed? Sorry to press you, but I'm a massive geek and these things really interest me.
I've done it on my enduro rig and it works flawlessly. I even had a bent hangar during a day at the park and I was able to use the AXS indexing to ensure that my most important cogs would continue working to finish out the day.
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I have a brake hack: ShiHope brakes,Shimano lever of your choice and Hope RX4 caliper,it would work with a regular E4 caliper but you need to swap the seals. Lovely brake feeling,light to the touch and close to bars with little death travel. 0 problems,it had been flawless for 3 months in my Enduro and almost 6 month in my dirt jump bike.
Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice. You can have both.
Friends don't let friends ride Sram brakes.
But, it's just one more battery to charge
The Sentinel on the other hand, that would be a more appropriate choice. Longer, slacker, and more stable than your Ripmo on Fraidy cat and 36. I struggle frigged my way up there last spring, just after getting Covid, what a climb, and spicy decent, loved it.
I don’t seem to jive with most DW dual link bikes, but they feel may faster on the climbs for sure
Transition was my #2 recommendation after Norco, but they didn't have stock.
There was a time when I had a GX AXS mech with a floppy clutch and the play in the rear end and I was genuinely embarrassed to ride it with friends (lol) as they would hear it over their own bikes. Now though, it seems about right. The VHS rubber stay protector help too.
Cheers!
Tires wise, assuming you’re running the enduro compound front and rear? I want to give them a go but not sure to mix a trail front with enduro rear for the weight saving?
I really wanted a Tranny back in the days of the TR250 but since then, not really. Should I change my mind now I know this is the current BBE?
I totally get it on the reach front. Would be kinda cool if single crown forks with 1 1/8 steers made a comeback so we could make the most out of the adjustment options of the 1.5 headtube.
Perhaps we need....another headtube standard?
I bought before looking then realized my mistake. Anyone want to buy a reach adjust headset for a Spire?
Hi Henry
Could U advise over stock rear shock
Does air shock smooth enough over square rocks & roots or it chatter?
Did U tried that with RS coil deluxe ?
I would really appreciate info on that
Cheers
Rafal
Nice. Like what you did there.
Could U advise over stock rear shock
Does air shock smooth enough over square rocks & roots or it chatter?
Did U tried that with RS coil deluxe ?
I would really appreciate info on that
Cheers
Rafal
Much better useable range on the clickers
Ended up with with C30 compression tune and R60 Rebound tune
I’m also on a shorter travel bike so that’s why the rebound tune is so slow. thats quite a slow rebound tune but I feel you need it when you have a shorter travel bike otherwise the HS rebound overcomes the LS and you just have a pogo shock
Modulation over "cool for 10 year olds doing skids" brakes.
as a heavier rider(210lbs) Brakes like Codes, TRP etc are always a better option for me, they remove much more speed more quickly, I have XT's on a new bike and heavy braking they keep locking up, theres no middle ground, lighter on the lever it doesnt slow me at all so....
Tyre pressures, again, vary. Anything from 21 - 24 in the front and 24 - 27 in the rear.
I run it in the high setting - the full chart will be with Transition (I'll add this detail now). You may notice that I actually have the saddle neutral-to-rearward on the rails just to get a more balanced feeling and a few more mil of effective top tube.
My old Alloy Sentinel with the same build, was 38.5 lbs
Transition claims 3450 kg with Fox X2 shock in medium, giving us an approximate bare frame weight of 2950g.
This compares favorably with 2850g for a Ransom 910, and 2500g for a Ransom 900, or 3700g (!) for a non s-works Enduro frame.
Weight is 36.7 lbs with pedals. 33 lbs is for sure impressive, sounds difficult to hit without compromising on ride quality or spending a ton.
22 Carbon Spire, medium, GX build.
WAO Unions, full fat CushCore, DHF EXO up front, Dissector EXO rear
18 Sentinel, Alloy, same build, EXO+ tires, 37.8lbs
19 Knolly Fugitive ST, Fox X2, 36 Grip 2, I9 Hydras with Enduro 305, XT build, 35.6ls
20 Sight, A3, GX build, Yari, SD rear shock, WTB wheels, with EXO+ DHF/DHR. 36.64lbs
Realistically the weights aren’t that much of a big deal, I thought the Sentinel and Sight climbed better than any of them. Might be that I had more time on them to find my ideal setup.
The SA of the Spire makes the 460mm reach seem smaller than I thought. Usually I’m a bang on medium, for my taste anyway, and am willing to bet the Large would feel comfortable as well
Love your bike (Spire's are awesome and if I had any money after all the crappy plastic SRAM I have had to replace, I'd be riding one right now- and I'd actually be riding an MTB instead of drop bar slogging to stay fit while I wait another month or two for the correct parts to maybe arrive- 3rd, sorry, real world problems)
Shimanos unwillingness to issue a recall on them or even fix the damn brakes in the past decade is astonishing, and the fact that they haven't been hit with a class action or somebody getting severely injured by them blows my mind. Brakes are downright dangerous.
But I agree on one thing: Codes blow, just for a completely different set of reasons. You don't need to make brakes super weak in order to modulate. Hayes, Formula, Magura, the newest Hope's, and Trickstuff are all making brakes right now that are stronger with better modulation and more reliable.
But journalists gotta suckle the teat if the brands that bring in the most money in advertising, so we'll continue to hear about how Code's 'modulation' is actually a good thing and that Shimanos wandering bite point isn't that big of a deal.
Seems like as of right now, theres no reason to buy anything that isn't the Hayes Dominion (unless you've got money to burn and a lot of patience for the Trickstuff)
I like them because I like them. The things that might bother you may well not bother me, but I will try and reflect that all the same. The Code, when bled and set up correctly, is a good feeling brake with enough power, albeit sometimes less than others. To suggest that I'm somehow under the thumb of some deep-state bicycle industry is utter bollocks. We've covered the wandering bite point issue ALOT, also.
In regards to my setup, I run my brakes so close to the bar that I don't think the wandering is so pronounced for me. I also bleed them regularly. In regards to SRAM, as explained in the article, they give me the feel I want - and personally, that's enough for me.
Lots of great brakes out there - like you alluded to. I would love to try some of the new Formulas or Hayes personally, which I haven't had the chance to yet.
But it is really great to hear what has become of such a "routine task" review long term. More of that please !
It does make sense to a degree, if Pinkbike went and wrote a scathing review about a bad product, chances are Levy wouldn't be getting an invite to the next product launch in Maderia, the Alps, Yukon or Dolomites, right? Access is obviously at play (and a pretty nice working holiday too) and the ability to report on new releases ahead of the competition.
But the flip side of this is we, the consumers don't really get honest reporting. We get phrases like "modulation" instead of sentences like "these brakes are completely terrible and need to be redesigned from the ground up" (which would adequately describe SRAM brakes since they were Avid, they have always been pretty bad); if you will, we need some Clarkson/May/Hammond honesty. For all their shenanigans, if something was rubbish they had the cojones to say so, pretty blatantly and it just seems no one in cycling media is willing to be that bluntly HONEST about the products they review, lest they jeopardise the revolving door relationship between media and industry that rewards nice pleasant reviews with invites and access.
As Orwell observed, journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations. The point, obviously, is not to suggest every review must be negative but rather that I, personally (and I'm sure a lot of people on here) would much rather read reviews that call a spade a bloody spade and be done with it, after all, these companies make products available on the free market, so logically if their product is not good the journalists responsibility is to the truth and the companies responsibility is to make a better product should the reviews find fault, not cut off or restrict journalists access, no?
the only example I can think of is, ironically, a YouTube account @Hambini (unfortunately he only reviews road bikes and its less riding bikes for review and more engineering in a workshop) but at least he is darn honest about the bikes that get sent to him.. these days, no matter the publication, I can't read a review that doesn't leave me questioning if what I read is actually the truth of the matter at hand or just nice words to ensure you guys get access and we get more bottle cages (which a lot of us never really wanted or needed in the first place)
A 150lb elite rock climber who can do 2 finger pullups vs a 250lb dude on an eMTB. Is it conceivable that they might find different amounts of initial brake bite and power modulation practical?
This is like people arguing about correct reach for a given height without taking into account inseam/torso length or ape index. Chainstay length without taking into account rider size or front center. The best pedal size without taking into account shoe size.
Code RSC's do not suck. They are reliable. They are easy to work on. They are easy to find parts for in a pinch. They are more than adequately powerful for many riders based on personal factors, terrain, or simply preference.
People had different brake preferences when I raced motorcycles based on bite, power, modulation but I don't remember any of this conspiracy nonsense.
Firstly, most of us don't like going on product launches and do our best to avoid three days of travel to ride a bike for 20 minutes and get some banging snaps to send home to our mothers. I got invited to one this month and declined it, asking instead for the bike to be shipped directly to me. The brand was very happy to oblige. It's obviously still very much in the brand's interest to get the publicity of having a bike reviewed. We don't charge for it, and it costs them a loan of a bike out of their demo fleet and a return label. If anything, the weeks that we put into riding these things is the most costly part - which is how we obviously make our content.
If we remove the Code RSCs from the equation, I've given some pretty bad reviews to some bikes since joining PB. I don't want to go into specifics, but I've been fairly negative, and rightly so, about certain aspects of design being way off. I've also been very critical of a number of electronic suspension systems. If your feeling were correct, then those brands would resent me or at least try and limit my access. Instead, through talking openly and both leaving ego's to one side (mine definitely included), I think we've garnered a decent level of respect and acknowledgement. A lot of the time, people don't mind not making the perfect product, but rather the struggle is in relation to human emotion and not a refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of criticism from a bike review.
Similarly, and here's the big one, bike brands know that for every time we call something bad, we'll be equally passionate about championing something good - and that's based on trust in our judgement and it's a very important factor in why brands want to get our bikes review.
I think @jdejace gets it in one - people like different things - and that's great and, what's even better, is the PB lets different reviewers review parts, come to their own opinions and then present it as such, even if it might stand on the toes of one another. Levy, Kaz and I argue all the time - and that's the sign of a good editorial department, in my opinion.
It's not a conspiracy... It's literally how modern review journalism works. The line between sponsored content and honest reviews kicked the dust.
And to be clear, @henryquinney I'm not shitting on you or coming at you even if it sounds like I am. I've been in the industry and I know the rules. If Pinkbike comes out tomorrow with an article saying Saint's present a danger to the rider and should not have been sold for the past decade, Shimano yanks access and sends their advertising dollars elsewhere. Pinkbike is hardly the only company trying to put out reviews as honestly as possible despite their source of funding coming from the same advertisers they're trying to review. I don't really know of a great solution, because it's pretty clear from the outside experiments with paid content that pinkbikers are a bunch of crybabies who think the world is personally out to get them when they have to pay for content. There don't seem like there are enough people to move to a CR style structure.
You're right though, and in my haste to shit on codes, I got carried away. My Code RSC's were fairly reliable while I had them. I bled them once when I got them and didn't have to do much else besides replace pads now and then. They were a pretty far cry from old SRAM, and they deserve recognition for that, because reliability is a huge deal.
However, the 'modulation' sales pitch just doesn't really resonate. Use any actually good brake and you'll realize it's pretty easy to modulate with all of them - I'd argue even easier because you don't need to grip as hard and light weight gets the job done easier. This is especially true at the end of a long day of riding when your hands are tired.
At the end of the day though, it's journalists job to drink the koolaid and talk about the cool shit companies are putting out. Sometimes its actually cool, and sometimes we can look back in retrospect and think "ehhh, that's a bit of a dud."
At this point, it's pretty fair to say that Code RSC's with their current power levels were in the 'Dud' category.
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