Video: We Talk Lightweight E-bikes and Specialized's New Turbo Levo SL | Pinkbike Magazine Show EP. 7

 No, there's already a filter that removes 90% of the content, just don't click on the other 10%. Total non issue

 If you ride a mountain bike with suspension, you are not a true mountain biker. True mountain biking was originally done on all rigid bikes for a reason, suspension is cheating and takes away the skill required to mountain bikes. Furthermore, having suspension on mountain bikes is dangerous - it allows for much higher speeds on terrain that can result in injury, especially if someone is pedaling up, and forces people to brake hard into corners which tears up trails.

^ This is how you guys sound when you complain about ebikes btw.

 @8a71b4: what's ridiculous is that the E-bikes are all made by mountain bike manufacturers. It's like specialized makes a bunch of regular bikes and several e-bikes. Makes sense for this website to review all the product offerings from one of the biggest mountain bike brands.

 @8a71b4: no, it really isn't. putting motors on bicycles is a fundamental change in how they ride. As batteries and motors get better, pretending that a speed limit of 20 mph makes them the same as human powered bike is just utter nonsense.

nobody is adding 20 mm of suspension and getting that kind of performance boost.

 @TheRamma:

>nobody is adding 20 mm of suspension and getting that kind of performance boost.

20? Im talking rigid versus 160+. Suspension gives you a shitload of speed downhill, you can let the bike eat terrain. Very dangerous for people climbing up.

On a fully ridid bike you are forced to navigate the downhills slowly, which is much safer. There is no argument that suspension makes bikes more dangerous.

 @8a71b4: your argument is that motors don't change bikes. stop trying to distract from how idiotic that is. you can go plenty fast on a rigid.

 @TheRamma:

Let me break it down for you simply since apparently the weed in CO is so good its making you hallucinate.

Even before the advent of ebikes, there were issues with hikers or riders climbing the trail and mountain bikers descending fast. The reason why they were descending fast is because of suspension - you absolutely cannot ride a rigid bike as fast as you can a modern full suspension bike. Not even due to fitness, but the tires just won't get traction when they are bouncing around off of stuff. You don't even have to be an exceptional rider to ride a dh bike fast, and consequently so, going fast on the downhill and now knowing how to corner or brake can be dangerous.

Yet nobody was complaining about slack head angles or suspension. It was either the riders fault for going too fast on a 2 way trail, or the hikers/climber fault for going up a decent mountain bike trail.

But now, with ebikes that increase speed on flats and uphills, the blame has somehow shifted to the motor, not the rider.

Ebike hate is 100% insecurity. People tie some sense of accomplishment to being able to get a certain level of fitness, and it makes them mad that someone could just pay money and have the same ride. Every other argument flows from this, and is consequently bullshit with no real basis. End of story.

 @8a71b4: nice try. having concerns about putting motors on non-motorized trails is an absolutely valid, reasonable position.

keep trying to gaslight strangers on the Internet in service of your all terrain moped.

 @TheRamma:

Note how you have no actual response to anything I said, instead appealing to "common sense"

100% insecurity.

 Poor muffin. Sounds like you’re having a rough day.