Rumble in the Czech Jungle: Nove Mesto XC World Cup - U23 Women and Elite Men Race Recap

 Found the information if anyone is after it.

MVDP had faster laps than Nino on 3 laps. Lap 3,5 and 6.

Then for 2 laps he was 5th and 6th fastest respectively but he lost bulk time on starting laps. Coming across the line in 90th after the start loop. Then moving up to 74th -> 51st -> 33rd -> 25th -> 12th -> 8th.

He on average overtook 13 people per lap.

 @v1rus9: Unbelievable...hope he races next weekend!

 @v1rus9: Insane.

 @benthandlebars: he won't, which only shows there's no(t enough) money in MTB.

 And he even had time to send me message on his phone during the race ! What A legend !

 @mi-bike: Surely has can do XC in the summer and CX in the winter months. XCCX champ.... or is it CXXC champ.

 @v1rus9: Absolute beast! That being said, I don't think Schurter was ever at the ragged edge.

 I'm a big MvDP fan, and really hope he does some more WC's.

It will be interesting to see how he copes with a real climbers XC course. The race yesterday was similar in a few ways to a WC CX course in that the climbs were punchy, and MvDP has got that in spades. But a long drawn out skinny climb? He might nail it, and he I hope he rides more to see how he fares.

He certainly has the skills to match Nino!

 Found the lap comparisons! in Spanish though

 What bike was VDP using for mtb. His on stevens for cross i think. Anyone?

 @tomgibson: He used a Stevens Jura Carbon ES with XTR Di2. Fox suspension and Conti tyres. Not to sure about the wheels though.

Would be nice to get a bike check.

 He will race Albstadt after all! "Decision made by heart" mobile.twitter.com/mathieuvdpoel/status/867102167395684354

 @plons: haha.

 @Tjur: That is fantastic news.

 Cheers Ketzal

 It might take a while for spectators to realize, but everyone else already knows.

 @ikeizer: Cheers for putting the photo's in. It's exciting for NZ fans to have 2 likely looking riders in the seniors and another looking strong one in the under-23's.

 *Era win...

 @nicanorcal: Until next months epic release

 Same as a 34t chainring when using 10-42**

 Looked to be using the 3rd or 4th biggest cog on the steepest climb so I doubt he used the 50t either.

 Ya, those XC starts aren't like a full-on sprint or anything...

 @Brycelewis: On a 27.5" wheel yes (the gearing most enduro racers use), but comparing 29er to 29er it's the same as a 32t with 10-42.

 Very clever way of putting it.

 Some of the women ride hardtails because their sponsor (Kross) does not make a FS frame. Other women choose to ride hardtails purely from a weight perspective because at their body weight, an additional pound or two of bike weight affects their overall race weight more than it would proportionally for the men.

 Sounds like you should put a 38t ring on your bike just to show how tough you are. Report back on how it goes, please.

 @slumgullion: 36t front, 40t back, on 275 160 bike with 1,5 ply tyres, 38t front to 36t back on 26" HT with 1ply tyres - bite me

I am a low cadence guy, I also need it for traction on steep technical climbs in my area, so even if we compensate for another average dude like me physique with more slow twitch muscles, maybe 10 years older, even he should be able to put out 34-36 front to 50 back, especially on a fkng XC racing bike with both wheels and tyres weighing less than my front wheel and tyre... so I would not be surprised if Nino being kindly asked to run Eagle would be running 42t front with it, since he was running 36t on XX1...

Being a healthy dude riding for 5 or more years, and running 22t granny or 30t front single to 50t back, then considering yourself a strong mountain biker is just so cute. Get outside of your bias group maybe? Just to try a different way than what roadie coaches tell your information sources? Stand on those pedals, hold the bars hard and put that power down, yes, it hurts more than spinning 150RPM but after 3-6 months the body will adapt and you will climb steep and techy sht you never thought is possible while your buddies will stop telling stories about single ring riders pushing bikes

 It's more about the top end, how hard must he be cranking to justify a 38-10 on a 29er? And also, he is probably selecting the ring size that keeps him in the middle gears most for better chainline- which is equally impressive. Would be surprised if he uses the 50t much at all..

 The 38-50 gear ratio is almost exactly identical to a 32-42 set up.

 @drummuy04: Nino still killed it on 34-36 to 42... I mean anyone who had 36t on a freaking 29er - what kind of animal you have to be to utilize 36 to 10 on downhills? Freaking tope echelon of DH uses 36t to 11t. I think only few had 40t in PMB for the champs. Even I am too lazy to check it out. And you get a bloke who says he needs Eagle to run 34t - no mate you just want Eagle and make up pre and post purchase excuses.

Anyways, before knee problem people kick in, I just wanted to say that 38t to 50t rear is not surprising to me on Ninos bikes to a tiniest degree. I'd be surprised if he was running 32t and impressed if he was running 44t, but because of: how the F do you utilize 44t-10t rear on a Xc race... that would kill the E-Bike class...

 I agree with the 38x10 ratio, don't think he'll ever outspin it, but that's not the point IMHO. He probably uses mostly the middle of the cassette, giving him a better chainline with the 38t? Not even talking about the impact a 38t might have on his competitors' perception, like "I have ze wattz, peasantz". Every little bit counts at this level.

 @SwintOrSlude: hahahah

 @WAKIdesigns: "36t front, 40t back, on 275 160 bike with 1,5 ply tyres". that awkward moment when you've just described my bike ????

 Raise your hand if you're a WC racer... okay then shut the fuck up.

 @sevensixtwo: I'm not and pretty much all the people here aren't. But if you show me a high cadence promoter who doesn't mention top racers in the world to back up his theory, with roadies as the main example, then I will shut up. But other than that, please stay within road racing/triathlete bubble... this methodlogy is completely in place there. I know a bunch of 50+ thriathletes, cool guys, strong and successful - they kill me on fireroad, and they push the bike up a singletrack as soon as terrain gets steeper with some rocks on it... and this is the piece of advice 99% of people hear 99% of the time. it does not make them better mountain bikers it just doesn't. An Olympic Center coach argued with me on diminshing returns of weight lifting and improtance of cardio, saying triathlon may be different than MTB but we all get trained the same way. Cool guy, but good fkng luck with that for your mountain bike riding mate. Every single strong rider in my town adopted 1x around 2010. Vast majority of Enduro racers, ex downhillers are fkng low cadence torque pushers, where are those XCers taught by roadie coaches even on the most pedally courses? I tell you where they are, they are maxing their pedalling efforts. If you are into that, please stay where you are preaching your Chris Frrom looking at power meter on Mount Ventoux. But if you climb difficult, slippery steep sht with mandatory body language and trials skills, then step back and get a difference between the engine of a 4x4 offroad vehicle and Formula 1 car.

In my town, people who spin fast to get on top of things, push their bikes at some point, or at least get totally wasted at the top of the hill. because they ram into shit trying to take eveyrthing with momentum. They rarely learn anything. they put shorter crank arms to get less rock strikes. Adn that is because they hear this ton of roadie science that works only for roadies. And some f*cks get out of their way to tell those poor people that their knees will suffer if they spin hard gears, while majority of roadies get their knees fkd because they pedal too much in the saddle and spend waaaay too little time on the strength training to stabilize their hip muscles,to be able to pedal out of the saddle by using glutes more. I have a pro roadie in my family and his ex pro roadie wife, i know what these people do and how they fk up their bodies, I'm not taking any advice from them, as I wouldn't take advice from F1 driver on how to drive Off Road.


So yea good luck! Nice discussion shutting bluff. Works wonders in high school discussions for sure.

 @WAKIdesigns: 30s.

 @WAKIdesigns: Shhhh, it's a secret: pros don't use the 50t, it's just a bailout for chubs.

 @WAKIdesigns: What are the longest uninterrupted ascents where you ride? 20 min from my house are a dozen different trails up three different canyons that are 2000+ feet on a single climb. There are a few 3000+ as well.

Yes, you can muscle up climbs in a higher gear, but after years running a 32/34 tooth front ring with a traditional 11 speed 42 (on a 29er), and switching back to something lower, my climbs are consistently faster and I have less fatigue for the way back.

 I run a 36. It looks funny watching people seated ,spinning at 90 rpm up a moderatly steep hill. This ultra easy gearing isnt making you a stronger rider. Quite the opposite.

 @sevensixtwo: bingo. Everyone here stating their preferences because "ive got a long climb" seems to forget they have zero chance of keeping up with these guys. They run this gearing because they are stonger than most of us. Simple as that. They dont need the bailout gears some seem to rely on to climb. You arent gonna win these races showing up spinning a 30x50 up climbs. So comparisons to us is moot as best.

 @WAKIdesigns: Your annual Alps trip? As I don't drink, sending me beer is a waste. You could send me kinder eggs since those are banned in the USA.

I still bet that if you did long, timed climbs, you would be marginally faster with a higher cadence, and your legs would be much fresher at the top.

 @hamncheez: vertical meters is shit talk always, it all depends on the surface, grade and temperature but as a rule of the thumb I don't climb higher altitudes I would do faster walking. And 34-42 on 275 is not a low cadence for me. If you made me climb a 29er with minions exo on 34-36 i would reconsider for me 1:1 on 26" bike is where it gets counter productive but I measured my cadence on road riding and my muscles can't get above 80RPM and feel fine. Moreover to recover after one of intervals I either spin 80ish or I drop to much harder gear and stomp slowly.

So I think that my assumption of giving someone 36t front to 50t rear was a rather generous scale. If you do spin 100RPM on climbs then how explosive can you body be for the fun stuff?

BTW Jocko Willink dropped a fitness bomb on JRE that scientists believe that there are medium twitch muscles.

 Just go to 1:22 in the redbull recap. It's a closeup of Nino's cassette on the climb. He's like mid-range. Which makes his 38t chainring absolutely insane.

He's also still at 90rpm, so any argument about cadence blah blah is just hot air from a couch potato.

Especially @wakidesigns, who loses 60s beginner enduro stages by 30s!

 @WAKIdesigns: link or didnt' happen

 @sevensixtwo: huh? Can you please elaborate instead of farting from the anonymous comfort of Being behind the screen? Put your balls on the table baby

 Because they're light (some of them are less than 15g a pair), comfortable and grippy.