Video: This Pup is Fully PINNED on Dusty Trails

Nov 2, 2018 at 11:33
by Jack Ellenberger  



Addie is the fastest dog on the mountain. When she hits the trails, all the other dogs just sit and watch. Her style is like no other. She always takes the inside line, claiming the berms are out of the way and counterintuitive and she sometimes has trouble keeping it on the trail. So I knew, when she approached me with the idea of making a video, that it would be no simple task. So it's with great pride and pleasure that we get to share with you, just a glimpse into the life of Addie, the dusty DH dog.










MENTIONS: @jackellenberger / @jasonmiller_c




179 Comments

  • 116 5
 Sad Word of sad warning.
My gsp has bad arthritis from being a trail dog. He basically has the joints of a f@&ked 14+ year old at age 8.
Take them out by all means they love it you will love it but don't go full blat no matter how much they want to and look like there doing fine. He's still gagging for it in his head but he's suffering for it know and I feel like shit.
  • 34 3
 Yeah, thing is, dogs weren’t built to run flat-out sprint all the time. For distance they need to settle in to a lope.
  • 74 13
 Thank you for your concern but we would NEVER do that. This video was shot over the course of many days in very short bursts with a lot of down time in between and cut together to seem like one long run. You should not have run your dog like that in real life.
  • 27 1
 A good gog who loves her owner will run and follow his owner till they die, don't abuse dogs guys. Nice vid!
  • 8 0
 Sorry man, my dog started down the same path, I had to stop. Bummer for both of us.
  • 10 2
 It's all about balance. If you're riding rocky trails, super hot days, or huge miles, maybe leave the pup at home. But leaving your (well trained) dog at home for every single ride is just as lame as running him into the ground. That being said, training is a huge issue. Most of my buddies "trail dogs" basically don't listen to their owners at all.
  • 1 0
 my old dog has his right hand/leg a little bad too. Sometimes when he his walking badly I put some Organic Silicium cream. I know it work for my dog,he come to me an let me mess with his leg and it is not and easy dog to take a look to whatever thing on him...For those with bad knees it can help a lot too.
  • 12 0
 Listen to OP, he's not kidding. My little Emma blew her knees up at age 5, and died as 12 after a couple years of spinal problems (paralysis and spondylosis) on top of the knee problems. Dogs. Don't. Give. Up. But they aren't indestructible.

She was the fastest pup on the mountain, but not for long Frown
  • 15 1
 Just keep the dog at its pace. Ran my heeler mix for the better part of 7 years (4-11) for 10-20 mile days. Did fine at XC speeds with stops every few miles to swim and relax. Just gotta know your dog. She would have followed me for 20 miles non-stop, but that wasn't fun for her.

Also, had to stop at 11, she was showing it the next day if she ran hard. She's 14 now and still one of the fastest dogs at the park, hope to spend a few more years with her, just sad that she won't be doing laps with me, but I know its best for her at this point.
  • 11 2
 I've always had heelers. They take this shit and then want to go play ball and chew a hole through your wall after a ride.
  • 5 1
 @DiveH: Heelers are the worst. They have no concept of quit. Probably run until their heart burst if you don't make them stop!
  • 16 5
 @jackellenberger: While I believe all that is true you have portrayed a very different impression in your video.

A disclaimer or warning at the start would go a long way in educating others.
  • 3 0
 I think that’s just a GSP thing. They seem to get old fast no matter what.
  • 13 5
 U all are reacting as if it's the 1st time u have ever seen a trail-dog video. Give Jake a break 4 goodness sake! Lots of trail-dogs out there and as long as the owner is sensible it's awesome 4 dog et al.
  • 5 22
flag trimakas (Nov 4, 2018 at 6:59) (Below Threshold)
 @pinkharo: What is up with all these dog haters? Must be Trump supporters... And I agree with you pinkharo.
  • 4 1
 Thanks for reminding me why social media sucks ...
  • 2 1
 @Poulsbojohnny: or eat until their stomachs burst. Yeah, it totally sucks having a dog that always wants to ride and can do gaps, drops and skinnies better than most humans.
  • 1 1
 @pinkharo: One can still be sensible yet clueless.
  • 3 1
 @trimakas: you’re an idiot and must be like 17 years old. If you’re not and happen to be older then you’re just plain SAD.
  • 2 0
 I have to ask, what about a husky or Malamute? Given the level of work they need to put in to stay healthy I would have thought a regular run on the trails over several miles would be a good thing for them... Not that I have a dog at all, just wondered!
  • 1 0
 Sorry to hear that mate! I also have a GSP whos 2.5 years old. How old was your dog when you started taking him out on the bike? We tend to rest him straight after a bike ride and try to limit him 2 rides per week.
  • 2 0
 @DannyOC:
Was about 2+ when started out with him. Only got taken out for a proper 2+hour ride 2-3 a month but lots of short flat ones round the parks as more every day walks. Always had a least 1 hour off lead min everyday but usually 2 hours. Always did plenty of stops but he just wanted to keep going. Started showing last year as muscle/ligament strain when got x rayed. His fronts are toast lots of floating bits. But he the type of dog that shows zero pain ever and is just always happy. (not like my other weenie arse gsp's)
Not helped by having laminate floor and tiles down it strains dogs badly as I since found out. Bit like bambi on ice for them and it strains there chest muscles and wrists over time. Iv chucked rugs and carpet down now everywhere.
  • 1 0
 @markg1150: our dogs sound exactly the same! thanks for the heads up, we'll be vigilant with him now.
  • 5 7
 @CaliCol: Touched a chord with you have I? Trump supporter are ya? I see you are considering leaving California because there are too many liberals. Don't move to the PNW - we have a limit on inarticulate, racist, negative, naysayers.
  • 1 3
 @jackellenberger: yeah but.....that's exactly what you made it look like on purpose. If anything, you're perpetuating the problem.
  • 3 0
 GSD's unfortunatly are prone to bad joints from the get go. You can have a trail dog but NEVER run them hard. Go a bit over jogging pace and nothing more.
  • 3 0
 Happy to hear comments from reasonable dog owners who realize they are not built to "shred". Just to track at a high paced jog over long distances to track prey and wear it out.
I thought I'd have a trail dog. He was perfect for it and loved to go riding with me, but I realized early on that dogs are loyal to the death and he would rather die broken on a trail than make me think he couldn't go and go hard.
It was cruelty after a while so I shut him down at 4 after 2 years of even just hour long rides. Not because he couldn't handle an hour...but because he wasn't built for it.
The pace going uphill is OK for dogs, but from that point forward, forget it. Even a casual mountain biker's downhill pace punishes a dog.

I know multiple people whose dogs hips were trashed by riding later in life and the owners used that crap excuse that "they want to or they'r meant to run or they'll be heartbroken or they aren't meant to be pent up". Sure, it's your life and your dog, but I've yet to see a dog whose judgement of when to stop was reasonable.
  • 1 3
 @trimakas: I’m an inarticulate, racist, negative naysayer? This coming from a buffoon that argues dog haters must be Trump supporters? Hahahahahahahahha. Wow, I don’t think I need to say much more, you’re doing a very good job of making yourself look ignorant. As far as your racist comment goes, I’m Mexican you idiot.
  • 2 2
 @CaliCol: I'm not saying you are racist and I have no desire to get in on this conversation, but surely being of any one race doesn't prevent you from being racist toward another...?
  • 1 2
 @landscapeben: you’re not trying to get into this conversation? You just did. His assertion that I’m a POTUS supporter and racist make it extremely very clear that he assumes I’m white. Your comment is very strange. Sounds like you’re calling me racist.
  • 2 1
 @CaliCol: No mate not at all, just clarifying that just because someone is Mexican or Zimbabwean or Gutemalen etc, doesn't disqualify them from being racist. Technically I think a person can even be racist toward their own race although that's a weird one, but I'm not accusing you of anything, just clarifying a point. tup
  • 4 1
 @CaliCol: After thinking on this, the whole thread, I've recognized that I'm in the wrong. Sorry about that. I don't want to be part of the negative cycle that is, but unfortunately I added to it. It was all pretty childish. It's so easy to get swept up in it all, and it's really not the direction our country and community need to go towards right now. But I would urge you to soften your tone too. Calling people "idiots" right off the bat is no way to start a discourse. Keep that in mind in the future.
  • 1 1
 @trimakas: fair enough. At the same time I could tell you to not make assumptions about the political affiliation of dog haters because it’s not the way to start a discourse (and I’m not a dog hater). Telling me to soften my tone because you made an outlandish claim reminds me of people that start an argument that leads to the person that started the whole argument saying “chill out, it’s cool,” because they’re about to get their teeth knocked down their throat. Don’t start something you’re gonna back out of in the end. Peace, love and Bobby Sherman.
  • 1 2
 @CaliCol: Like I said, poor judgement. People make mistakes. Guilty as charged. But trust me, it not because I'm about to get my teeth knocked out. That shit doesn't scare me. It's because I'm strong enough to admit when I'm wrong. In the end, we don't know shit about each other. Let's just leave it at that. Peace, love, and Bobby Sherman to you to bro.
  • 1 1
 @trimakas: no it’s not even that. People can have a different viewpoint and just because it’s different doesn’t make it stupid, ignorant, or whatever. In case anyone isn’t paying attention to what’s going on in the world, having a personal conviction that everything you believe is an absolute universal truth worthy of a Me vs. You tribal conflict to the death is going to achieve exactly that. The idea of using intolerance to make the world a better place is the ultimate insanity of human progression because it ignores all of human history that it unequivocally guarantees accomplishing the exact opposite.
  • 1 1
 @Tim2: good call!
  • 2 3
 Yes. Because you're a dickhead. A f****** drama queen, that talks out of his ass, giving people shit online, like a disgruntled teenager. Oh! You're so strong and fearless. Haaa!
  • 1 2
 @Neale1978: you really commented on this over two months later? Don’t hate me because I prove you wrong time after time.
  • 2 2
 It was very easy. You haven't proved anything at all, because you're completely full of s***.
  • 1 3
 @Neale1978: that would be proven... And he has a point, not only did you come late to the party, you also had nothing worthwhile to add. So don't bother adding more rant and swearing it's not going to give you any additional credibility as you've already demonstrated your inability to have rational conversations.
  • 2 2
 I wrote proved, because its f****** correct to do so! Also, don't judge me off of one, or two posts.
  • 53 6
 Get this bitch some goggles.
  • 49 0
 doggles
  • 2 4
 @ehvahn: underrated comment.
  • 2 0
 @kylemciver: Absolutely awesome, never seen these before but they planted a big grin on my face Beer
  • 53 19
 For every one of these well behaved pups, there's a dozen other "trail dogs" that are busy nipping at other riders' tires, shitting in the middle of the trail, running away from their owners, getting in the way constantly and just being overall nuisances.

If your dog isn't trained WELL, please leave it at home.
  • 21 32
flag freeinpg (Nov 3, 2018 at 15:34) (Below Threshold)
 I'm sure you're running into s&%t piles and having crazed trail dogs biting your ankles on the regular.....seriously???
  • 11 3
 @freeinpg: While I always appreciate a good knee-jerk reaction, where did I say that was happening on the regular? Thankfully, most people don't ride with their dogs so most of those situations are avoided. But, when someone DOES watch one of these videos and insists on letting their dog run unleashed down the trail, I have yet to see one that isn't being a problem.

Living where most trails are within city limits does mean that lots of folks walk their dogs on trails, so unfortunately cleaning dog shit off the bike is an every 4th or 5th ride chore.
  • 4 13
flag jackalope (Nov 3, 2018 at 18:29) (Below Threshold)
 Sans shitting on the trail (which tbh, I've never actually seen in 25+yrs of riding with dogs), that description sounds like my experience with people in every corner of the planet I've ridden (ie - Canada, US, NZ, etc...)

For every one person who's not a slow, unskilled f*ck douche, there's a dozen of them that should consider disk golf in lieu of bikes.
  • 6 11
flag MichaelLinehan (Nov 3, 2018 at 18:51) (Below Threshold)
 "where did I say that was happening on the regular? "
@Dethphist: You wrote "For every one of these well behaved pups, there's a dozen other "trail dogs" that are busy nipping at other riders' tires..." Seems pretty "regular". I have NEVER had a problem with another rider's dog - EVER. As for shit... when I have encounterd it, it's always in areas where I think it is probably walkers. I've never seen dog shit further up and on, for example, steep black trails.
  • 5 0
 @Dethphist: I could say the same for the all hat no cattle cowboy dipsticks, preceded by aggressive cattle dogs, who ride trails in the vicinity of bikers and flex their authoritay when their horse spooks as they struggle to handle them. Horse shit on trail WAAAAAY more than dog shit.

As for "yet to see one that isn't being a problem"...you're pretty unlucky then. Dogs are no worse than kids on the trail that don't pay attention or plant themselves in the middle of the trail to open a juice box. In both cases it's a parent problem.
  • 3 3
 I was once on a remote multi use single track trail in the forest where a couple was walk their Yellow Lab - and for what ever reason - the dog saw me and the bike and BOLTED back up the trail ——like it had seen a Sasquatch. I saw them again 40min later and they still hadn’t found it. Mind you- it was such a small trail I had to get off the bike - just to walk pass them- so I wasn’t going fast or anything.....The dog was just dumb. The lady then bitches me out about mtb on the trail- and claims they aren’t allow. I told her they ARE allowed - and you should have Scooby Doo on a leash. The dude with her had nothing to say cuz he knew I would have “trail raged” on both of them -if the tone would have gotten any less civil.
  • 1 0
 My dog only bites my tires. She also knows how to get out of the way and fall in line. She only passes on climbs, and that's just to make sure the herd is together. She barks during rests to let me know not to slack off. So, good dog or bad dog?
  • 5 1
 I have had dogs in black trails crossing my pass, running by my side in rock gardens etc.. when I confronted the owner he didn't feel that was a problem.. (he was a rider...) I wonder if I smashed myself and presented him a bill of 2 months off work he did bother a bit!

You are absolutely right! I love dogs (I work with dogs) but most people are actually clueless about responsible pet ownership!
  • 1 2
 @MichaelLinehan: Well that explains everything. Since you are so hardcore riding on steep black trails, you are projecting such intense Alpha vibes that dogs just can't help but kneel to your superior nature.

Alas, they don't respect my non-elite status.
  • 2 0
 @DiveH: My friends dog bit a hole right through my exo dhf. I won't ride with my friends dog anymore. Lol
  • 1 0
 @gnarnaimo: this leads me to question why there are no videos of riders with trail goats...
  • 21 1
 Surely this is an Enduro dog not a DH dog, riders on a an Enduro rig and a DH dog would have to either take a chairlift or a shuttle to the top. This dog looks like it would climb like a goat.
  • 9 2
 This was shot on a one-way trail at a bike park, which we shuttled because the lifts were closed.
  • 21 5
 Trail dog cam beats a drone any day of the week
  • 11 0
 My wife and I work with treating dog injuries for a living......trail dogs are great, pushing them too much is not. $5000 tplo knee surgeries are a reality for this kind of work.......your choice......i wouldn't put my next dogs through that again......no hate.... just love......

CM!
  • 2 0
 what about husky dog that run and pull sleds do you see many injuries with them?
  • 4 0
 @unleash: Yeah we see lots there too but they are much different injuries. A dog has a pack instinct, this kicks into hyperdrive when chasing mountain bikers downhill. I'm not saying don't run your dogs or work them hard.....just be aware of what they are going through. Both my dogs were the best trail dogs a guy could ask for but their joints paid the toll. Slower rides, more XC type stuff is all good but asking your dog to shred a high speed downhill jump trail only puts unneeded stress on their body.

CM!
  • 2 0
 @Cro-Mag: right!always wanted a husky and was told it would need extreme amounts of exercise so thought it would be perfect to take riding ,the uk hasn't got many mega long descents anyhow ,thanks for the reply.
  • 18 7
 I would say the word “pinned” is used WAY to much.
  • 7 3
 Agreed, almost as bad as "savage"
  • 12 0
 That loose and steezy hot take is lit up bro. Sick.
  • 1 2
 @LOLWTF: Was born with it!! Bugs me to....
  • 6 1
 @LOLWTF: that dog is a 'trail weapon'.
  • 6 1
 My tailor absolutely PINNED my pants hems.
  • 1 0
 ...and “kit”.
  • 1 0
 This.
  • 2 0
 I can't decide whether "fettle" is used too much or not enough.
  • 2 0
 @jamesbrant: trail weapon is the worst. literally....the. worst.
  • 9 2
 So many plonkers commenting on here, it’s unbelievable.

Just a few facts. The Iditarod race covers 1000 miles in a 1-2 week period.

A greyhound can run 40+ mph

A border collie will chase sheep over the fells (English hills/mountains) all day long. No problem

Yes, I would never take a chihuahua on a bike ride. But I would never own one either.

Dogs are meant to run. They’re are basically tame wolves. Who run and run and... you guessed it run. And guess what, not on tarmac.

They are animals, they are meant to be in the outdoors, that’s why they have fur! And thick pads on the bottom of their feet!

Do you watch wildlife documentaries thinking, oh that poor artic fox I bet it’s cold. Oh that poor jackel it actually has to feed itself, oh that poor African wild dog, it has to run after its food for miles and miles.

What would be worse is to never let your dog do what it’s supposed to do! Run!!!
  • 1 0
 I think, in summary, you’re saying “dogs are just animals and should be treated as such”.

But we’re all animals, and part of being an animal with a social structure is altruism - one of the most successful survival strategies.

That said, dogs aren’t actually the same as wolves. And even if they were, you’d find that wolves also cannot run at full sprint all the time....nor do so while hunting.

The basic issue is, you’re rationalizing not taking care of dogs, and your argument could be applied to anything from keeping dogs inside, to veterinary medicine to even feeding them or giving them attention. They’re “just animals”.

Our animal altruism tells us from deep down that this isn’t the right way to treat each other.
  • 1 0
 @tempo: not at all. I have a dog. And indeed he comes on bike rides with me. He gets the most ridiculous amount of love and attention. We have full pet insurance because we want to take care of him.

However he is an animal, just as we are. As such I need time in the outdoors to reconnect to nature and get my physical exercise. And so does he.

What he certainly does not need is some idiot owner not giving their dog the required exercise because they’re worried about vet bills. If you don’t want the responsibility, don’t own a dog!
  • 11 2
 Addie was just cruising most of the time, big visual cue is the tail tip up in the air.
  • 8 2
 I have this massive fear of the rider landing on the dog or the dog caught in the wheel spokes. And everyone should know just like riding gnar, you can't just bring your dog to trails and just do as film shows, that require practice. And one last thing, PICK YOUR DOG SHIT!!!
  • 10 4
 Love her shortcut. My pup finds shortcuts on trails he’s never ran before... all the sudden he’s in front of the pack when we come around a bend.

We often have equal dogs to riders in our neck of the woods; sometimes more pups than bikes. PNW!!!
  • 8 3
 I just did 10 miles of trail with my dog today. Best riding buddy ever! never late, never complains,well behaved, best digging partner. She has never seen a dog park , never will, only the wilderness. Now go ahead and pet your cat, and tell me I’m a bad dog owner.
  • 5 1
 Most people's dogs are so f*&king miserable; better to be out on the trail than crying by the front door.

Use common sense and watch how the lil dude is doing and don't take him on a busy trail where he's going to get in someone's way. Some dogs were bred to run all day. My cattle dog will not allow me to go without him.

If you're not shuttling runs then really, for how long is your dog going to be going this fast if you're out for 2-3 hours? There's only so much downhill you can generate for yourself in that time.
  • 4 0
 I’m a dog guy from way back, I’ve buried more than a dozen incredible trail dogs over the years, currently have two in retirement (Matty 15yo Aussie; Sydney 14yo Aussie) as well as two freshies (Beau 4yo English Shepherd; Wall-E 4yo Heeler).

My dogs have run ultras with, gone ww kayaking, rock climbing, hiked the PCT/AT, and gone nose to wheel on many mtb rides.

People don’t realize that dogs can’t go as fast or as long as humans, they’re just not designed for miles and miles of abuse. If they look tired, it’s time to back off.

I really enjoyed that video, and I’m sure Addie is well taken care of, but watching him ride that back tire I could only think about a rock taking out his eye or his jaw getting busted by a side slip of the bike.

My fifteen year old Aussie still goes on hikes, but they’re at his pace and when he wants to go.

All dogs get old, even this dog ????
  • 2 0
 Well said.
  • 8 1
 French Shepard (aka Collie) takes French lines... Typical! Haha great vid
  • 11 8
 I can't believe all the dog haters. Trail dogs are the best! My beloved Bella shredded all the way to the end with no problems what so ever. This video was taken when Bella was 10. Still killing it. Love your dog, take them out only when it's not too hot, and keep an eye on them at all times and they will be fine....
www.pinkbike.com/video/310284
  • 2 1
 Go Trim!
  • 3 2
 @jheeren: What is up with all these dog hating down voters? Who are these Pinkbikers? They're definitely not from around the North West!
  • 1 0
 @trimakas: Agree, dogs love loam (well mind do anyway)!
  • 7 4
 I like to see dogs out on trails, but most of the man made trails are made of aggregate that shreds dogs paws, especially in the summer. Instead I take mine out for xc runs on softer flatter ground and the downhill speeds are much slower. On the uphills he just sits down and waits for me at the top. On the downhills I let him go first and set the pace. At the end of the day he absolutely loves it and I’m in no way pushing him past his limit. Still having said that, I think far more damage is done by giving your dog a kibble/dog pellets diet rather than a proper raw meat diet. People seem to forget that dogs as carnivores can only process meat and that somehow think it’s ok to feed a dog a grain based diet.
  • 2 1
 Raw 7 years on my doberman couldn't agree more!

Have you seen the booties they use for lurchers running in stubble fields? Might be useful for trail duties
  • 2 0
 We take our working cocker spaniel out at least twice a week on the bike around the tweed valley. She's waiting for us at the top of the hills and at the bottom of the trails. She sets her own pace all the way around. We tend to only ride the "off piste" trails when she's with us as the ground is much softer and a lot steeper so slower speeds. Raw powered for 3 years
  • 2 0
 @vunugu: thanks for the link buddy, I’ve tried some shoes on him just like those, but they rub through his skin under his dew claws & if you loosen them they fall off. His walk when you first put them on is hilarious though!
  • 6 1
 Finally somebody has a dog POV that is watchable, thanks to the gimbal set up.
  • 2 0
 Great video. Glad to see your dog smiling and healthy. A couple of fast healthy years sure beats a lot of fat slow years for any animal. To many fat flat backed dogs I see around town and I love there owners excuses of how he's healthy just looks like a sausage. Anyways great video.
  • 2 0
 Dogs love running, plain and simple, you should be able to tell if they can handle it or not. I have a Belgian Malinois/Dutch shepherd cross and she is an absolute athlete of a dog. But her pain tolerance is super high and she has and can hurt herself. you just have to be smart about it, its her upper pad on her front legs that's been torn a few times. Plus I've watched her train a human on how to play fetch in under a minute.
  • 1 0
 My ACD is like this. I got him some boots for rougher and/or steeper trails. No more torn or cut pads. Still have to watch him closely to manage his effort though. Will not quit.
  • 1 0
 I also think that keeping the running to trails is best. If you have to transfer even for a few km on flat ground that is way harder on them. For my dogs, we start at the trail head and head up. My 12 yr old Eurasier takes it easy and all his runs now I keep under 10km with frequent stops and water breaks. The 3 year old Malinois /Dutchy can go foreever, again though, frequent stops and water breaks.
  • 1 0
 @vunugu: My dogs main pads have been good, its the upper pad behind the dew claw that has gotten torn when she runs through the bush like a missile going after squirrels and stuff
  • 3 1
 @jackellenberger Thanks for putting this together. The timing is tough to wrap my head around as we just had to say goodbye to our own Addie this week after 15.5 great years. She looked so much like this Addie as well. We think she was a border collie/Aussie mix and was an amazing dog. Don't sweat all the negative comments. I could tell this was done in segments and watching the dog you can tell she's going about 70% effort most of the time. All day DH duty obviously isnt good for dogs but healthy trail time is for certain breeds (especially herding dogs). It's all about finding a balance, considering the breed of dog, the terrain, weather, etc. Good to see another Addie living a happy life. Here's our buddy that we're missing like crazy: www.instagram.com/p/Bpp2CpklIQB/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1m9wbs7c1c72r
  • 6 3
 Are those 26" or 27.5" length strides? Heck you know they just might be 29"...... not sure!

I love dogs, I love my dogs more than most people!
  • 3 2
 My friend's Pitbull sends 6ft drops 8 ft to flat with no encouragment as if it was no thing. He also runs down ridges and takes a downhill bikelength and a half gap in stride no noticeable leap. Never gets in the way, doesn't care about other riders, is snipped so he doesn't care about other dogs either. Doesn't attack bobtail skinks or other reptiles like snakes. Only issue is that he loves hunting horses and even after they kick him in the head five times he still wants to have a go at them. He's a rescue so a little hard to untrain that but if raised from a pup he'd have been easy to train. A lot of these complaints about ruining joints etc are for choosing the wrong dog. Pit bulls are way better at off roading and parkour than other breeds. Their large tounge to body size ratio also enables them to dissipate heat better. Or not building support muscles on loose sand while a dog is growing. Build endurance slowly, give regular rest and water, and a good work breed dog will go all day. Steer away from show breed crap with weak feet and horrible body mechanics. Those dogs are meant for the back yard and park.
  • 3 0
 Actually this is some incorrect information. Pitbull's weak links are their joints, especially in the back. Yea, they're built like a brick shithouse but that doesn't work in favor of the dog. It's like asking a bodybuilder to be a marathon runner, it doesn't work. That amount of mass with that kind of pounding on their legs isn't good. Light and nimble makes for a much healthier and happier trail running dog. There are other dogs that can run fast in a straight line (think Greyhound) but they would probably injure themselves trying this type of running.

I grew up in Alaska with all types of different dogs. Our Pit was incredible out in the woods. She loved it, went her own pace (we're walking though), and covered 3X the distance that we did. Unfortunately though she was hit with an ACL injury when our Malamute mix ran into her hind leg when they were playing. I would have never subjected her to the type of trail running seen here, she was just built for a different kind of activity.
  • 8 8
 Wow trying to say taking your dog for some fast riding is abuse is a stretch. Many of us are also going to suffer from some serious arthritis and joint issues as a result if this sport. Did we abuse ourselves a bit.....for sure...was it worth it? F%^k yes and your dog would say the same if they could. On another note Addie is rad at scrubs...damn
  • 6 1
 Get a cat you pussies!
  • 2 0
 My 6-year-old Newfie found it exhausting to watch this video. They aren't all trail dogs! Great footage though, and Addie seems like a sweetheart.
  • 1 1
 Awesome video. I don't get all the negative comments. dogs love to run. I must be unusually fortunate because of all the trail dogs I've come across none have been a problem. I've got a coon hound that I think would be a great trail runner but she's not trained well enough to be trusted off leash so I don't take her out.
  • 2 1
 Good video and it looks like you taking good care of that pup. This is the life he wants. No dog wants to live on a semi circle of packed dirt in someones back or side yard. Glad to see a bowl of water for it.
  • 2 1
 I came here purely to see @IamTheDogEzra 's top comment... Not only is it not top, but doggone it Ezra, you haven't even commented! Sorely disappointed. Missed opportunity. Cry
  • 3 0
 that mans shins should be what everyone shins look like.
  • 3 0
 pity I am deaf now.. nice dog btw!
  • 5 2
 Full face helmet, but no knee pads. Priorities, I guess.
  • 2 0
 Is this 80s Jason and his sidekick skunk dog?
Stoked to see this man!
- Dustin
  • 2 0
 what PSI do you run your dog at buds? 11spd or 12 speed? Flats or clipped in? Thinking about getting my dog crush cores.
  • 1 0
 I think dog walkers should learn a think or two about how / what their dogs would like too do when taken out, they dont want to just go for a walk?
  • 3 0
 Dog looks miserable...not having fun at all
  • 3 0
 This pup needs a good set of dogggie goggles!
  • 3 0
 I heard that dog used to dig at Highland!
  • 1 0
 This dog needs to carve a run at Rampage next year and get sendy. I could see it throwing a cork 3 off a 40 foot booter no problem
  • 3 0
 Border Collie?
  • 4 0
 Some sort of mix. Collie Shepherd for sure
  • 1 0
 I think is a mix of a Sighthound dog. Those love run like crazy,my dogs play with a Galgo female dog.She makes circles around my little American Cocker and makes mad to my other female dog also Sighthound mix but shorter while my old dog bark to cheer the young guns. In 15 minutes my dogs are done while she is just warm
  • 2 0
 Cool dog, reminds me of McGazza and his pooch.
#mcgazzaforever
  • 3 0
 Volume warning
  • 1 1
 Anyone running their dog with a leash on the trails? If so what you using? I've tried the walk dog plus-works well but would like something not mounted to seat post.
  • 2 0
 Was he pinned and shredding..next thing you know he'll be a legend..
  • 1 0
 Trail dogs enjoy automatic legend status here. Smh
  • 2 0
 Addie taking those strava lines
  • 2 0
 Ur dog is casing you to tell you "Put on knee pads!"
  • 2 1
 Trail running is actually bad for your dog, just wait till you see the doctor bills! You’ll wish you were a dentist!
  • 1 0
 Well this makes me realize how Disillusioned I was thinking I might be able to escape a big cat or bear if I was attacked.
  • 3 1
 run another dog into the ground to look cool.lame
  • 3 1
 Gimbal Dog, awesome !
  • 21 23
 It’s not good for dogs health when they run this way behind bikes. Their paws and legs pay the price.

Try running bare feet yourself at full throttle and you’ll know it.
  • 16 6
 Downvoting this gentledude is not going to make him any less correct. While trail dogs are super cool, it's pretty dangerous and ultimately not great for the pooches health. It's fine to do something, but ignoring the reality of the situation is the definition of ignorance.
  • 11 18
flag LOLWTF (Nov 3, 2018 at 13:47) (Below Threshold)
 @sherbet: I mean, come on dude. So what if the dog gets arthritis at 8 years old... It won't give a f*ck and will have lived 8 years of pure joy instead of crying all day waiting for his owner by himself while he's out there shredding.
  • 19 2
 There is a middle ground between destroying your dog's joints and utterly negecting them. That's a bullshit stance and you know it. Again, do whatever, but trying to take some moral high ground here is shitty.
  • 12 0
 @LOLWTF: there’s a middle ground... our dog “could” run while I bike but instead we go trail run together.

I was riding with people who rode while their dog ran, her paws were bleeding and the owner noticed only at the end when getting back into their car. She just wanted to be with her people and ignored the pain.
  • 19 1
 Bikeshop dude here. Have heard of it all, from dogs getting longterm health concerns, broken bones, stomach flipping, causing riders to crash, running off into the woods and never being found, and flat out getting hit and dying. If you care about your pooch, you'd take this shit seriously.
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flag Viper13 (Nov 3, 2018 at 16:45) (Below Threshold)
 @sherbet: Ya, sure those things happen, same for the riders 'cept the stomach flipping. So many drama queens. Pretend this was your kid. If any of you would take your kid biking just like this dog, would you be playing this hero bs? Dogs do great. They can run the trails, woods just like the rest of us, and yes they will just like the rest of us, wear out sooner than later.
  • 7 3
 @Viper13: except that the humans aren’t running here, just sitting or standing on a bike so it’s quite a bit easier. Well I wouldn’t make my kid run behind me while I rode...
  • 6 4
 @sherbet: I've always had trail dogs and had none of these issues
  • 14 6
 @sherbet: Hasank is correct in as much as he made a blanket statement and as a result he's at least partially right. But like almost anything in life its not black and white and there is a ton of factors to consider: training, the terrain, the individual dog and its physical characteristics(age, fitness, breed, hardiness etc.), the season/weather, the type of ride and intensity etc...

If you take your old untrained overweight lab on a high traffic 5 minute descent with 'gnarly' terrain in 30C weather with minimal rest then you are an idiot and are deliberately endangering your pooch and other riders. The same could be said for a rider who takes his young, fit, and hyper cattle dog on regular 2hr lungbusting KOM fest xc rides on a hardpack xc loop. Any dog/thing will eventually break down from that kind of pounding and exercise.

But lets get off our 'saving the poor dogs from their irresponsible risk-taking owners' moral high ground and assume for a second that maybe some people are responsible and make informed choices as to what activities are safe for their pet.
Lets say that you have a very fit, athletic, hardy and well trained dog whom you ride with maybe once or twice a week and only on cooler days. You only ride on low traffic and tame terrain (mostly pine forest, loamier soils) and keep the intensity low. The undulating terrain results in short downhill sprints here and there but your average speed is low and you take frequent breaks. During these breaks you actually pay attention to what your dog is doing (laying down, heavy panting, digging, rolling around, barking at you, wandering off in boredom). Lets also say that even though these rides over the years have not really been pushing your dog and they are still perfectly capable, you taper/off stop doing these types of rides with your dog at around age 8 just to be safe.
That's my story anyways, and my old girl is 12 now without a lick of arthritis, has never suffered more than the odd scrape, and has never caused or been involved in a bike related accident.

Is mountain biking dangerous? Yep. Is your dog chasing things at high speeds off leash dangerous? Yep. Well I guess we should do the safe responsible thing and throw our mountain bikes and our dogs favorite ball in the garbage and just nerf our worlds right up because safe is funner and happier...

(disclaimer: Not discounting anyone's bad experiences and I'm sorry to hear about them, but if you're informed and responsible about how you go about riding with your particular dog, on your particular trails then I wouldn't say it is an inherently bad or unsafe activity for the dog or other riders. In my experience my dog was happier then a pig in shit while chasing me and has only been healthier(happier/fitter) as a result of it.)
  • 2 0
 @Viper13: Just remember the major difference between dogs and riders (even kids) is that dogs can't tell you how they're feeling. Say you're out riding with a kid and he breaks his finger, you'll know about it pretty much straight away, even if the kid thinks it's a good idea to keep riding. If the dog gets a stress fracture in a foot or similar injury you may well not find out about it until the end of the day unless you're being extremely attentive.

That's what people are saying - you have to be much more proactive at safeguarding dogs' longterm health with activities like this, because they can't tell you when enough is enough. Humans (even miniature humans) are far more capable of making their own decisions and voicing their problems.
  • 1 1
 @BRRider: great post. Would be interested to know what the signs mean. (digging, rolling, wandering off of boredom)
  • 2 0
 @BRRider: Nicely put. Taking your dog out for any activity is about balancing the many things that go into deciding whether that is a good idea for that dog in those circumstances, whether that is mountain biking, playing frisbee in the park or going to the beach.

Some people make the wrong choices, either through inexperience, ignorance or just plain stupidity. Taking an exuberant young dog to play frisbee before it has developed is a bad idea just like taking a dog that isn't too keen on the water to the beach on a really hot day probably isn't too clever.

Trail riding with your dog can be a terrible idea for the dog and other people around if done badly and it can be one helluva good time for all if done right.
  • 1 0
 @BRRider: Amen, my experience and outlook as well...
  • 3 1
 That dog is stoked haha
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 Man this is so bad for your dog , They will run themselves to death to make you happy
  • 2 0
 Nice shin.
  • 1 0
 That dog cuts more corners than Cru Jones.
  • 2 0
 This dog must be French.
  • 1 0
 Wish my old tomcat could do that. He was badass.
  • 1 0
 Who says dogs are not competitive!!!!!he wanted to kick your ass!!!!
  • 1 0
 @heckler13 time to get Scout a GoPro harness?
  • 1 1
 Look dogs running. And their not even following a bike...

m.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEzEHRuLf0
  • 1 0
 Mullet man Jason! Nice work dude!
  • 2 1
 Man pinkbike really sucks these days. Comment section gave me aids
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Rupert.
  • 1 0
 Oh my dog!!!
  • 1 1
 Cannot wait for canines participating alongside riders in slope style etc.
  • 1 0
 ANIMAL USE!!
  • 1 0
 You GO Dog!!!
  • 1 0
 Good girl!
  • 1 3
 Nice vid, my pup lives for trail running
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