10 Retro, Rare & Rad Bikes From Sea Otter Attendees

Apr 10, 2022 at 15:57
by James Smurthwaite  

Justin's Astrix Huckster

Justin bought his Astrix Huckster two weeks ago on the PB buy and sell.


The rear brake and pedals are the only upgrade Justin has made since buying the bike.



Mike's Hellion Amen

Mike Labalata of Hellion Bikes was walking around the show with his first full suspension bikes. Based in Bentonville Arkansas, he currently makes slopestyle hardtails but is now targeting the trail market with this 135mm travel bike.

The gold covering was done by Bentonville Wraps

The suspension system has been designed by Chris Canfield of Canfield Bikes



Nelly's Orange Blood


Think the Switch 7 is the first Orange bike with a linkage? Think again.



Quinn's (Dad's) Castellano Zorro


This bike actually belongs to Quinn's Dad and was custom made by John Castellano of Ibis.

A lot of intricate tubing has been used on this single pivot design




Greg's Santa Cruz V10

Gregs and Santa Cruz V10s go together like Sea Otter attendees and sunburn.

This Greg recently bought his off a friend that had had it since it was new.



Euan's Ellsworth Isis

Euan has had his Isis for about 2 years.

Ellsworth probably couldn't have guessed how badly this name would age...



Nick's Yeti Ultimate

Nick is the founder of Pro's Closet so it's no surprise he has an exceptionally rare and special bike.

The Tioga Disc Drive is only fitted on this bike for special occasions.

This is the only XL Yeti Ultimate in existence. The extra gusset between the seat tube and top tube was only fitted on this bike to reinforce the longer top tube.



Jack's 'Snot Rocket From my Boogery Welds'

Unable to find a bike on the market that catered to his need and budget, Jack simply decided to build this one-off bike for himself.


The bike is bang on trend with a high pivot and a floating brake mount.



Kevin's Cannondale Raven

Kevin had been hunting for a Cannondale Raven for some time before this one popped up on Craigslist five years ago.

The staff on the Cannondale booth told him it is the 2000 model.



Some Kook's 'Bike of the Future'

This guy was ranting madly about his bike was from the future so I took some quick shots to shut him up.

Apparently the proprietary geometry is 10 years ahead of the rest of the industry and it's so fast that pro racers are scared to use it in case their own bikes feel obsolete.

Apparently the Grim Donut is soon to be joined by the Slim Donut (a road bike), the Pilgrim Donut (with 7 GoPro mounts for vlogging) and the ‘You f*cking Donut' Gordon Ramsey Insulting Man special edition

He shuffled away muttering about how Commencal had stolen his High Pivot Virtual concept and that he probably could have won in Lourdes if it wasn't for the fact his bike didn't fit on the funicular. I assume he had sun stroke.



Bonus: Specialized's 1992 Specialized S-Works Epic Ultimate

While not from an attendee, this classic was too good to skip over.

Ti lugs and carbon tubes before it was cool.




167 Comments

  • 226 7
 Tell nick to stop criminally overcharging for POS bikes on pros closet
  • 30 1
 +1 for that. Honestly don’t know why anyone would sell their bike to them.
  • 24 0
 Some of the FS bikes aren't terrible. But they've got used hardtails going for more than new. That's not cool.
  • 21 25
flag thebigschott (Apr 10, 2022 at 18:36) (Below Threshold)
 Bike vendors also try to dictate prices to bike shops with msrps while knowing little about their overhead and cost of doing business. If pro's closet can sling bikes for the prices they're selling them for so be it. It's amazing all this cheaply made and poorly designed garbage doesn't cost us more. We're really at a point where a new $2200 bike blows anything that was $5k plus from 10 years ago away and most of it has all been trash rabies anyway. Of course, my point only holds water so long as you put said new bike's sx eagle drivetrain in the garbage in favor of installing that old clapped out 1x10 slx drivetrain you have in a box on the shelf in the garage on it. Or if you want to bother with tightening that little 3mm hex bolt that holds the cage onto the derailleur body after every ride that works too. This was a really friggin cool article by the way. It's rad to see people slinging what their bringing on the trails rather than being hamstrung away from the trails with a huge new bike payment. That steel homemade bike speaks to me as does the Canfield designed bike... everything Canfield has their hands on is fire. They are one of the exceptions to my thought on much of the bike and bike component shaped objects out there. I'm guessing that homemade bike doesn't have a derailleur because it shifts better without that sx eagle derailleur that was on it. Ride fast and take chances out there folks!!
  • 18 4
 @thebigschott: Canfield: The only company that thinks Convex shaped pedal surfaces work
  • 4 0
 @sunringlerider: Sell? They actually give decent money on some bikes, but the bikes they sell are way overpriced.
  • 2 1
 @bubbrubb: And keeps building bikes with the water bottle mount under the downtube.
  • 22 1
 Or just don't buy from them.
  • 4 0
 Fitting that he would show up with a Yeti...
  • 19 3
 Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
  • 5 0
 @bmied31: I’ve tried with 4 different bikes, (not sure why I keep trying) they’re offers have been literally thousands less than I have sold the bikes for. I guess if you really hate market place it’s an option.
  • 2 1
 *their.
  • 11 5
 @thebigschott: "Of course, my point only holds water so long as you put said new bike's sx eagle drivetrain in the garbage in favor of installing that old clapped out 1x10 slx drivetrain you have in a box on the shelf in the garage on it."

^^ This, this, so much this!! My GF bought a new Liv Pique a few years ago and rode it for like 2 months, then she just kinda stopped. Finally, after much asking why she'd lost interest all of a sudden, she tells me the bike is no fun to ride because it doesn't shift right and she's not confident in it. Slapped an 11 speed XT group on it out of spares I had, and she's been riding it 3-4 times a week ever since.

TL DR - Sram, your shitty products make people not want to ride
  • 3 1
 @bubbrubb: I've never slipped a Canfield pedal. Have you tried dropping your heals a little? Or, tried loading and unloading pressure on the pedals with appropriate timing?
  • 1 0
 @bubbrubb: You must have missed the PNW pedals that got announced a couple months back... Convex pedals are BS...

www.pinkbike.com/news/pnw-components-releases-loam-pedals.html
  • 2 0
 @sunringlerider:
How do you think their business works?...
  • 2 1
 Just because Pros Closet's value model doesn't translate into value for you, doesn't mean they are criminal. There are people out there who see value in buying a bike from them that has been inspected and refurbished vs a total dice roll on the buy sell or FB market place. That being said, I personally do not see the value you in PC, and would likely never sell them or buy a bike, but I do applaud their exploitation of the market.
  • 1 1
 @notthatfast: I’ve been in and around the bike shop world for the last 20 or so years. I’ve got a pretty good idea. I guess it should be a high five to them honestly. Not sure if they sell at the advertised prices but if they are, they are making more than a lot of shops selling new bikes.
I’m more amazed that they can and do list a completely stock two year old bike for $1-1,500 more than it retailed for.
  • 1 1
 @bubbrubb: Don't forget about OneUp... and they do work amazingly well actually (with good shoes) with the added bonus that they slide off obstacles much better.
  • 2 0
 @bcoleman3: i super love my 11-46 box 11sp. i want to try the microshift advent x, though. a 10sp with 11-48? yes please
  • 1 2
 @bubbrubb: best pedals I’ve ever used, won’t go to any thing else.
  • 49 3
 I feel sorry for that kid on the high pivot URT bike. One day he's going to ride a decent bike and he'll curse his dad for owning that POS.
  • 7 3
 Exactly. I lived thru the 90's and even back then, anyone who rode even half way seriously or with half a brain knew URT were pike of sh*t death traps. Big Grin
  • 2 3
 **pile of sh*t...** Not pike. Oops
  • 2 28
flag ddspaz (Apr 10, 2022 at 18:11) (Below Threshold)
 I think anyone who's ridden a Forbidden might disagree.
  • 12 1
 @ddspaz: what Forbidden? The Druid and Dreadnought are not URT bikes
  • 3 0
 Its the high pivot urt, dont forget the urt part. They were crazy things. I never rode a hp urt before but l did try out trek Y bike once and l didn't notice anything to weird but that was a long time ago and didn't know better either.
  • 11 0
 URT was the worst of everything. A catapult that slackened as you climbed and steepened as you descended.
  • 2 1
 My XC bike is a high pivot URT. Trail bike is a low single pivot. Gravity bike is high pivot with an idler. Believe it or not, I enjoy riding them all.
  • 3 1
 @chUNdah-luVAh-69: high does not = URT
  • 1 0
 Yeah, this x1000 - I rented a URT in '96 or '97 while in Moab to try out and it definitely was not worth my time or effort. I remember how it locked out while standing which basically turned it into a bucking bronco on the downhills.
  • 2 0
 It’s just cool to bring this, yeah some older designs won’t work, but someone’s idea/art is showcased here, something to be appreciated to be where we’re at today. I might bring my Four Banger next year, that Lawwill suspension is art!
  • 4 0
 @bman33: i had a pike of shit once
  • 44 5
 kinda kills me that Pivot can create a sick aluminum frame and simply chooses not to sell aluminum frames. for all the positive changes at that company over the recent years, that decision is incredibly off the mark.
  • 9 1
 Oops, apologies for the accidental downvote. Yeah, for the typical $1,000+ extra for carbon, I see greater return on investment almost anywhere else. Fancy fork and shock, upgraded and/or custom tuned springs and dampers, exotic brakes, crazy light wheels with fiber spokes, a new front tire every few rides, hiring someone to ride along and carry all my water and gear ... for me, any of these things would improve my performance and/or experience more than frame material.
  • 7 1
 @R-M-R: agreed! an alloy frame with pivot’s attention to detail, strong brakes and dialed suspension would be a perfect bike. shame.
  • 6 1
 @knarrr: Pivot certainly makes good bikes, but you can already get essentially that from other brands. There are aluminum bikes with similar geometry and kinematics - even from the same factory - at reasonable prices.
  • 1 2
 Their last gen alloy bikes didn't need to be 157 to be stiff enough, either. That last alloy Mach 6 was a good bike. The Trail429 would be on my short list if they offered an alloy 148 version, (As it is, the Ripley AF tops my list.)
  • 5 7
 Pivot makes bikes to sell to make profit. They do not make bikes to make less money. You are not their target demo, clearly.

The idea of brand messaging, market position, sales cannibalization, and other factors, sometimes makes a decisions for a company that *you* may not like. Yet, this is the right call for that business.

good thing for you though, is there are plenty of AL bikes out there, just none that say Pivot on the side(besides the Donut of course).
  • 2 2
 @conoat: exactly it's all about business. And since Pivot doesn't actually make bikes, I'm sure anyone who wants to get a great alloy bike can do so from another design brand, possibly from the same factory that makes pivot's bikes for them.
  • 1 5
flag greenblur (Apr 11, 2022 at 5:46) (Below Threshold)
 Banshees are alloy Pivots. Or I should prolly say Pivots are carbon Banshees.
  • 3 0
 @greenblur: I don't think that's accurate. One is Pacific, one is Genio.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: "doesn't actually make bikes"...? Please elaborate
  • 3 2
 @scallywagg: the Pivot design team designs bikes, which are then made by a Taiwanese company which operates a manufacturing business serving Pivot among others. You could also design a bike and get the same company to manufacture it for you... As PB has previously done.
  • 4 2
 @jaame: by that definition, no one makes anything. lol

Ford? naw, 60% of the parts are made by outside suppliers! they are just automobile assemblers.

Starbucks? nope, they don't "make" coffee....they just grind it, soak it in water and put it in a cup and f*ck your name up.

your definition of "make" might need an update.
  • 3 0
 @conoat: maybe
Jeff Steber, he makes bikes!
  • 1 0
 @SirLapLack: I still can’t find a bike that’s stiff enough man. 157 just can’t handle my power and speed. I’ve had to go up custom width hubs and reworked frames, the cycling worlds just not ready for me, yet.
  • 29 0
 Ellsworth couldn't have guessed how bad the name "Ellsworth" would age...
  • 16 0
 The pilgrim comment killed me
  • 2 2
 Really is the best channel on the chube tho. Atleast the dude is a beast on a bike and god damn hilarious. So many other bike channels are cornball af
  • 13 0
 I'm surprised there wasn't a chumba wumba, mountain cycle or karpiel to be found
  • 11 0
 "deisng"
noun
/dē-ïss-iina-guh/

"A lot of intricate tubing has been used on this single pivot deisng."
  • 10 0
 What is going on with the seat on that Cannondale Raven, looks like some rags on the end of stick???
  • 3 0
 Looks like a homemade noseless saddle...which is absolutely hilarious, because there was a guy in South Florida that had a near identical Raven with a homemade noseless saddle 22 years ago. I wonder what the odds are this was one of his bikes.
  • 8 0
 So despite the popularity and success of the Grim Donut part 1, there's been pretty much no pinkbike generated content about it... What's the deal here? Why only "spy shots"?
  • 10 1
 I know we say this a lot but genuinely - watch this space, coming soon
  • 2 1
 Content about it was teased for too long and our hearts and minds wandered to a more available mate - i mean bike.

Edit - Hmmmm.....I was making this comment on a different user's GD comment and it would not post (which happens to most of my posts since I was last Suspended - I'm on an Apache watchlist or something?) but the post I was responding to was deleted. Tinfoil hat time..... Delica
  • 3 0
 @jamessmurthwaite: I can only wear my lucky underwear for so long before they need a wash....
  • 10 1
 Mike Ferrentino owns Ibis? Prob news to him even more than me.
  • 5 0
 The Stump Epic just needs the Specialized cast titanium stem to put it over the top.
The tig cro-mo Zoom stem is kinda meh.
Had that Specialized FSX fork when it was new. A Mag 21 with carbon/Ti and would top out like crazy.
The following year they did the same treatment to the Judy (yes, had that one as well….).
  • 1 0
 Ned Overend was sponsored by Zoom & rode their stems for a while, thats likely the reason.
  • 2 0
 I might actually still have one of those Ti stems
  • 9 0
 Ok we need an entire article on the bike Jake built
  • 3 0
 This! Everything about that bike -from motivation to build- screams 'the good kind of nuts' to me.
  • 6 0
 I could look at retro mtbs all day long. Please show us every cool thing you guys saw there. I need to go to Sea Otter one day.
  • 3 0
 It's pretty sweet to ride, as @R-M-R described, it is a bit more stiff in the back when your standing. It also has an oval boost chainring in the front which makes it a great climber (if you can put up with the weight). I have also found, on my own, that it is very good and fun for jumps, as it has that hardtail feel, but there is that shock there. So, wether there are bums on the trail or you barely case a jump, the ride ends up very smooth. Also, the fat 650B (27.5") tires and a steel frame makes no easy way for someone my weight to damage it.
  • 3 0
 I meant to reply to @that1071 about the Castelano.
  • 3 0
 Just appreciate what Sea Otter brings out, kudos to those owners, hey this is history, concept or home grown, whether the design works or ‘jacked up’. Look at the details if anything, they’ll never compete with current designs using CAD, printing etc.
  • 4 0
 Anybody know the name for the type of front brake in the last photo? It's like a canti but with a weird pivoting cable hanger/cable stop thing.
  • 1 1
 There’s a link under that photo - click on it
  • 2 0
 @vemegen: I did; did you? The linked article contains the word "brake" only once, referring to the brake levers, not the actual brakes.
  • 5 0
 @barp: avid tri align
  • 4 0
 @barp: the bike in the linked article doesn’t use that part, anyway.

I would call that part a cantilever pivot cam. Cannondale used something like that way the heck back in the day called the “Force 40”. It was supposed it increase brake power via leverage, but instead added so much friction that it just sucked.
  • 1 1
 They were pretty much the same thing as the onza ho brakes
  • 6 0
 @melanthius: I was also going to mention the Force 40. Had a set on my 1992 Delta V and they worked great (compared to regular cantilevers) if they were frequently cleaned and greased. I was the only one in my ride group who could actually control my speed on "steep" descents - and I could do it with only two fingers per lever! That was a big deal in the '90s.

There was also the Scott Pederson Self-Energizing (SE) cantilevers. Different mechanism, but similar concept of increasing cantilever brake force.
  • 7 0
 2 versions of the force 40:
Version 1 was the brass wheel w/ bolt cable stop - cranky to set up.
Version 2 was the triangular part w/ the brake ferrule end - easy to set up as long to use as you get the triangular cannondale logo level.
Then again you had to be good on setting up cantilever brakes!
Oh those kids have it so nice these days…..
@R-M-R:
  • 3 0
 @NWintheUSA: I wasn't even aware of the Version 1; thank you for pointing it out. That's quite the prototype-looking part that made it to production. Mine was the Version 2, and the reduced pad clearance and spongy lever feel were well worth it for brakes that could actually brake.

V-brakes seem so obvious that it's a wonder they didn't come about sooner.
  • 2 0
 Thanks, folks. Now I'm wondering if the bit on this Specialized fork is them copying Cannondale, or vice-versa. Also a good example of how both companies have never been shy about using weird proprietary designs.
  • 2 0
 It's a rocker cam, nothing to do with the specific brake but used on the fork as a way of providing a cable stop. Early Pace forks had them, don't know who was first but suspect they may have been. Alternative back then to make canti brakes work was a cable stop of the fork arch itself like on a rock shox mag20 or early Manitou.
  • 1 0
 @gotohe11carolina: & the onza HO bought the design off boulder bikes, which had an identical brake
  • 1 0
 @gotohe11carolina: Avid named their the Tridangle, but that might have been a later design
  • 3 0
 the brakes look like Avid TriAlign cantis and the cam looks like a Trek/Suntour Power Hanger.
  • 4 0
 Can someone explain to me how the suspension on that Zorro works? Looks like the cranks, pedals etc are unsprung??
  • 6 0
 Stay seated and the suspension is pretty smooth. Stand up (to sprint or climb) and the suspension stiffens. Obviously not the best for standing up during descents. Only one pivot & fairly light. I had the Schwinn Homegrown version in the late 90's, didn't hate it for XC use.
  • 3 0
 I might be wrong but it looks as if the shock only works when you are sitting on it/ there is a load on the saddle, if you are standing it acts like a hardtail.
  • 3 0
 It's a urt (unified rear triangle) basically only works well when seated down...
  • 17 3
 It’s doesn’t work, actually.
  • 12 0
 @jmtbf: It can still compress when the rider is standing, but yeah, that's the idea - and it was regarded by many as a positive when URTs enjoyed some popularity. Mountain bikes in the early- to mid-90s were similar to the burly end of today's gravel bike / monstercross spectrum. Similar 71° & 73° geometry, similar tire width, similar terrain, and similar drivetrain ratios. Many riders just wanted a little comfort when seated, and full efficiency when standing to pedal up steep hills in our 1:1 lowest ratio.

Suspension performance was crap, but it was a synergistic type of crap with the rest of the bike.
  • 9 0
 Standing up on descents wasn’t invented til ‘98.
  • 5 0
 @R-M-R: So it's only a matter of time before we see one in carbon with drop bars and 700x40c tyres?
  • 1 0
 @boozed: Nah, they will do a soft tail.
  • 3 0
 @boozed: We already have the retro sunglasses, neon clothes, tan sidewalls, and 40 mm RockShox forks, so get out your toe clips and watch for a URT ATB in the next issue of Mountain Bike Action!
  • 3 0
 @boozed: In all seriousness... Active when seated, super efficient... sounds great for gravel bikes. I really hope no one ever tries it at the same time.
I agree with carym that a soft tail would be so much better and seriously surprised that more people aren't doing that.
  • 5 0
 That’s probably the first time I saw an orange orange.
  • 2 1
 It shoulda been called the Blood Orange.
  • 1 0
 hilarious!
  • 11 6
 Funny how nobody gives 2 sh*ts about the Grim Donut anymore.. haha
  • 10 5
 Its probably to do with how much control pivot has over it. anything pivot touches they want a gold bar for. boutique brand that doesn't even make boutique bikes. still baffles me that they updated the firebird for the sake of the water bottle and removed that suspension design that worked so good.
  • 17 3
 @HeatedRotor: pivot has asked for literally nothing re the grim donut. I turned down a few other brands actually because it felt like they wanted to co-opt our dumb little idea. Cocalis was happy to let us be kooks. New video soonish.
  • 3 2
 @brianpark: fair and thanks for the reply, rest of my comment stands however.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: Any chance to get eddy masters to be the pro tester ;D
  • 1 0
 How old is the V10? Old enough to have the full ten inches of travel?
Funnily enough I've enjoyed rooting round for historic bits for my 99 FSR DH more than buying bits for my modern bike. Trawling for 99 X-Vert Ti forks does get exhausting though. Dorados to the rescue.
  • 2 0
 Old enough for 255mm Smile
V10 MK2 was made from 2005 to 2007, I bought one in 2008 or 2009 in black anodized.

Those X-Verts were sick!
  • 2 0
 I had an Isis, it was the craptasticist frame I ever owned. Had so many defects, and problems I ended up personally being yelled at by Tony himself. No offense Euan. I hope you fair better with your copy.
  • 2 0
 The Raven was such a sick bike for the time (and honestly, manufacturing technology wise, still sick today). I'd love to see an updated version with current geo and a decent shock.
  • 1 0
 That’s a Raven 2 with the magnesium spline/center backbone and the carbon had molded indents Saw a few separating at the carbon magnesium area at the shop. Raven 1 had a aluminum spline and was more round in profile. Wife rocked a 1 for a few years. Check out how the seat post was attached to the frame!
  • 1 0
 Justin’s wearing a Berm Peak shirt! Way to represent Asheville, NC! Maybe we will see that huckster at the grand opening of Berm Peak in just a few more days!

That Specialized frame brought back so many memories! Remember the GT full suspension rig with the carbon tubes? The Trek Y bike? We sure have come a long way and yet not much has changed!
  • 1 0
 I used to own an Ellsworth Joker which looked just like that Ellsworth Isis, does anyone know what the difference between the two is? Mine was black with a silver swingarm but I'm sure was the same apart from the colour.
  • 1 0
 @DC1988: The difference is 2" of rear wheel travel. I had a 2005 Joker frame, which got bumped up to 7" of travel. That frame is still being ridden. With abandon.
  • 1 0
 @RayDolor:
Ahh, ok. I sold mine when I bought a Manitou Nixon fork(with 20mm axle) which felt way too stiff in comparison to the qr back end, it felt like rear wheel steering.
  • 1 0
 i have an Orange Blood frame sitting in my garage. Recently retired after my son grew out of it. Great little park/mini DH bike! Forerunner to many modern bikes in thinking. Cant bear to part with it!
  • 1 0
 The orange blood was a proper fun bike back when i demo'd it always wished id had the money to get one. Looking back at some of the old oranges its like they regressed in terms of technology as they had some pretty good linkage driven bikes Blood, ST4 and the strange 225 that seemed to be in a never ending prototype stage
  • 2 0
 Finally, HPCL- Designs (high pivot chainless) coming along.

Props to Jack! Looks like a fun rig, wish I had the skill welding tubes like that and time....
  • 3 0
 Fox should sell those “sprinkles” logo stickers on the grim donut’s forks, super rad !
  • 3 0
 "Greg's Santa Cruz V10...." where have I heard that before?
  • 3 0
 That Hellion is dope, nice to see some more CBF bikes.
  • 1 0
 Actually hellion's rig isnt CBF. Its got more of the jedi'esque rearward formula going on. Its an interesting bike for sure.
  • 1 0
 @cougar797: honestly I ride a true single pivot and I don’t know what I’m talking about so thanks for the correction
  • 2 0
 @steelispossiblyreal: Not trying to be a jerk by the way. Just meant it as the hellion is a really unique rig.
  • 2 0
 Holy Pedalbob Batman, that Castellano Zorro is whacky af! Surly the saddle-BB changes?!!?!
  • 3 0
 Jack's Snot Rocket is probably a pure DH rig. No chain needed.
  • 3 1
 That "Bike of the future"dude needs urgently more workout or his grim donut gets slacker every week ....lol
  • 2 0
 Wheelbases of 10 years ago always get me... that V10 for example. We were riding tiny bikes back then
  • 2 0
 That Orange blood is a beautiful bike. They should make them again. Or transition should make the bottle rocket again.
  • 1 0
 Maybe it’s the angle the pic was taken, but that Hellion bb seems to be located behind the top of the seat tube, unicycle geo pedaling?
  • 4 2
 grim donuts bike story is so funny ahah
  • 4 0
 Either no pedals are the future or a genius move to stop cheeky “test rides”
  • 1 0
 Oh man, I almost bought that Astrix Huckster! Great deal, cool bike. I am surprised that Isis is still in one piece.
  • 2 0
 Pivot really needs to make a “You fu*king Donut!”
  • 1 0
 Oh man, I almost bought that Astrix Huckster! Great deal, cool bike. I am surprised that Isis is still in one piece.
  • 2 0
 Bro needs a step ladder to reach his bottom bracket.
  • 3 5
 Bitching about bike prices create the opposite effect children !
It only shows how much you really want it and that you are unable to get it . Just makes YOU look bad .
(Hate = I personally can’t afford there for it’s bad)

I think it’s time to stop that.
  • 1 0
 I would actually want to see the slim doughnut. Make road bikes actually fun!
  • 1 0
 I want more info on Jack's steel high pivot gorgeous full suspension and the Grim Donut 2.0 ASAP!!!
  • 1 0
 @jamessmurthwaite Just a heads up, Chris Canfield is not involved with Canfield Bikes, that is solely Lance and his staff.
  • 1 0
 Yeti: The triple cable top tube, side position, filets your leg during crashes.
  • 2 0
 some epic shit
  • 2 0
 Great job, Jack!
  • 1 0
 Orange really need to bring the blood back
  • 1 0
 Hahaha bike of the future. Maybe if you only shred carparks.
  • 1 0
 Nelly you made PB!
  • 4 7
 In 20 more years we will look back at 2022 models wondering why so many didn’t have motors yet and how people were ever able to get up any real mountains without motors.
  • 5 0
 The appearance of the light ebike will make current ebikes obsolete, but not current bycicles, or bycicles in general. Personally, if I want to ride a motor, I would get a proper powerful electric MX bike. That's what actually excites me in future technology.
  • 2 0
 speed10.....thats probably true and very sad at the same time.
  • 1 0
 I'm seeing an increasing amount of trails that don't allow ebikes. If anything I feel like in the future ebikes will have their own legal areas and most regular trails will be for normal mtbs only. Europe seems to be going in the opposite direction though.
  • 2 4
 Will we see any review on the new Grim Donut or it is only a Pivot's commercial now?
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