Andreu Lacondeguy to Ride a Rust Themed Commencal FRS at Red Bull Rampage

 Yeah not very slack to my protractor-eye

 @AckshunW: looks like its got a reducing reach or angleset fitted

 its not just you, proportions/HTA seem old school ...possibly just camera angle ???

 It almost looks like the fork isn't quite in line with the head tube, like he's using angle-adjusting headset cups, though I'm not really sure why you'd want it to be steeper.. maybe it's more comfortable for him like that.

 perhaps 63-degree head angles are just a ridiculous marketing gimmick. I have a feeling andreu has a decent sense of how a bike should be setup for rampage.

 @lyalltheweebeastie: It looks like reach adjustment to me... in the side view picture both the top and bottom of the steer tube seem to be offset from the head tube.

 @adrennan: It's more likely that he steepened the head angle to compensate for the mullet setup.

 It's because it's xxs. He's 4'8 or something

 The whole image is also tilted. Look at the ground, it's not level. So this makes the hta look even steeper

 @SintraFreeride: well that makes no sense

 Nope, your eyes don't deceive you. It looks weirdly steep. Probably an angleset. But the Furious also isn't that slack (in DH bike terms) to begin with. It's "only" a 64° HTA.

 @adrennan: damn you should let the whole MX and Enduro industry know that too ! Probably 20+ years they got it wrong and had no idea !

 @adrennan: Slack angles aren't a gimmick, they have a noticeable affect, but possibly not one you want for Rampage/tricks as you say.

 Yep 1998 called they want their head angle back !

 size small

 Is it a illusion with the height of the seat combined with the shortness of the front triangle?

 Dirt jump bikes don’t have slack angles either and that’s what this is, a dirt jumping monster truck

 i measured it from the photo as ~64.1°, seems ok

 I'd wager that Rampage style freeride doesn't require the same type of geometry as DH riding and the steeper HA makes the bike more maneuverable for tricks. Probably shorter chainstays than a DH race bike too.

 @madmon: It's actually just the kids clash

 Like well used shit tickets?

 It probably offended someone

 If I ever buy one of these imma want a furious sticker kit for free......

 sk Cnyn.

 direct to consumer brands are saving money by not buying a vowel

 it was kind of a late 2010s name... neg prop me, it's fine.

 @Greener43: They'll be furious that you said that

 @Greener43: Yes, Vin Disel and Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson. Simultaneously.

 @Greener43: probably?? it offended someone (dont be so diplomatic :-)

 @Greener43: lol

 Yeah sometimes using English words when it's not your native tongue can just be Awkward. Furious was a weird choice for there playful park bike. It's like the brand Propain. It sounds like and actually was a 90's hardcore band here in the states. Beautiful bikes but i feel like i should bust out my jincos and wallet chain to ride one. Another example, I was walking down the street in Berlin and saw a gal wearing a pair of sweat pants that said funky across the ass. Just awkward but part of English being a world language.

 @adrennan: we eliminate the vowels to save time. Brlnt!

 It sounds like something Kona would have called a bike in 2004.

 Not enough vowels to go around due to Covid related supply issues.

 @Greener43: I'm hoping your downvotes are ironic.

 I guess we'll be seeing a BRZ and GT86 sometime soon

 @Struggleteam: sounds plausible.
P.S I remember the ProPain song "the stench of piss"....... where they NYHC sXe?

 @Struggleteam: I had a Czech flatmate once and she had sweatpants that had "Sexy Code" down the side of them. Much laughs were had.

 @nojzilla: NYHC for sure but I don't think SxE. I grew up in that scene.

 @streetkvnt-kvlt: did you manage to crack the code?

 @Mfro: there are some people on here whos egos are literally in tatters lol

 @Struggleteam: well, I did crack her friends code.

 My 3-wheeled Fiat Uno endorses this message.

 I recently sold off a '67 Mercury Cougar simply because I couldn't keep up with the invasion of the cancerous rust. I'd do body work(cut holes, fill, etc.), then have to do more a little later. It became frustrating, saddening to watch the destruction no matter what I was doing, and, it was losing value the more it lived with me. Rust....isn't cool. And not sure why he says "specially in Utah"....try living with an old car near the ocean!

 @GlassGuy: It looks cool with the desert brown everywhere, rusted out cars just look out of place in a lush, green, environment. He ain't saying that Utah is better for rust, he's saying the rust is better for Utah.

 Chain guide not an idler

 Looks like a tensioner/guide thingy

 it keeps the chain on

 I’m curious what it’s all about as well. Why not just use a regular chain guide? Seems kinda elaborate for what it is.

 Making those big drops they get massive chain slap, and losing the chain appearing at the next 35feet drop with your chain wiggling around is not the best. So they triplecheck everything

 @nojzilla @stflood @b-mack
I ask because Commencal has mentioned it in another article here: news.commencal.com/news/Andreu-Lacondeguy-Bike-Check/2190.html

"The use of a jockey wheel on Andreu's FURIOUS is a system under development and is a system in line with the work carried out on our SUPREME DH, to better manage the chain effect."

I dont think its just a chain guide to keep the chain on.

 @rallyimprezive: I’m no suspension expert, but it seems that putting the roller there and lowering the chain at that point might reduce pedal kickback. Maybe that’s the purpose. It doesn’t seem like it would function well as a guide, and up until now he’s never used one for his single speed set up.

 @b-mack: Thats kind of what I am thinking. Seems pretty cool if you can just add that jockey wheel to reduce pedal kick back. I hate pedal kick back (i ride flats)

 He’s running singlespeed, it’s all about chain tension and retention

 @rallyimprezive: I doubt there's going to be ANY pedaling at rampage.... maybe one crank off the start... pedal kick back is a symptom of high pivot race bikes so they have a super long chain to deal that runs 'over' an idler wheel. This bike is a single pivot freeride bike, they could very probably run no chain at rampage.

It's a chain guide that differs from a regular ISCG in that it also adds a little bit of tension but with a minimal desighn. I'd guess to take up from slack from a single speed long travel drive.

One very easy fix if you're getting kick back (on a non high pivot bike) is to add a link or two but, then the chain flails about more. Single speeders will very likely not run a full chain device or anything at all so this looks like a good cure. In a minimal desighn (that keeps single speed riders happy) that adds tension and chain retention but still gives the chai some play where it needs it to reduce kick back.

P.S the only time I've ever experienced any kick back was when I went deep into travel with the chain on the largest cog.. my own fault.

 I'm now wondering if this thing has spring tension?

 @nojzilla: yea, it doesn’t appear to have tension. I asked all of this because I have a Commencal Furious. It’s fantastic in the jumps and berms but the pedal kickback is very unpleasant in gnarly rock gardens. It’s worse than the YT Tues it replaced. Even on the smallest rear cog it is noticeable. I sorta hopes this sprocket, whatever you want to call it, is designed to reduce pedal kick back. Although it’s a bit late at this point, I bought a different DH bike to try out.
Thanks for all the great details you provided though.

 @rallyimprezive: Interesting on the kick back.. I had a Mk1 Furious, now on a Supreme V3 Park so a new Furious is obviously my dream bike

 @nojzilla: Well, its a 2021 Furious size medium, with Saint brakes and Zee derailleur. It'll be up for sale in a month or so!

 @rallyimprezive: have you tried the ochain?

 @wburnes: I looked into it! Pretty cool device. It has an 85kg rider weight limit though and I am about 90kg all geared up.
I also just decided to buy a different bike.

 Tow Mater approved!

 I thought Remy was running chainless?

 Lol yeh they copied brunis bike

 Looks like Boba Fett should pilot it

 You mean big hit.

 @sunringlerider: lol I had a Big Hit back in the day

 @hotfootluke:
As did I. Bikes have came a long way since then. Was good for hucking down flights of stairs though.

 More like a 2012ish Scott Voltage FR20, but let's not be pedantic.

 lol. Classic. To clarify - It does not look slack at all, and the rear wheel clearance, seat post looks bizarre. Color is sick...