FCC Approval Hints at Wireless RockShox Suspension & New AXS Shifters

Feb 3, 2021 at 12:12
by James Smurthwaite  
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Hot on the heels of Shimano's Federal Communication Commission request spotted earlier in the week by Cycling Tips, we've also been pointed in the direction of similar requests from SRAM.

Unlike Shimano's request, which seems to have been for wireless transmission, this one is instead related to suspension, shifters and power meters. SRAM, of course, already has its wireless transmission dialed thanks to the AXS system, but it seems like it's not stopping there and is exploring what other uses it can use cable-free technology for in the future. On January 31, it posted six applications for wireless technologies for the following components: front suspension, rear shock, a pedal sensor, a power meter, and left and right shifters.

Anyone who's up to speed with the Shimano story won't be surprised to hear that SRAM have been granted some confidentiality around the application by the FCC. That request includes any pictures of what might actually be approved, but there's still plenty we can gather from what's going on here. Firstly, the confidentiality is set to lift on July 29 this year, a date conveniently just after the proposed finals of the Tokyo Olympic mountain bike event, making us strongly suspect that this is a product range with XC in mind.

Our best guess at this point for the suspension applications would be a remote lockout that doesn't require cable operated triggers or GripShift like SRAM's current offerings. The advantages here are a cleaner cockpit, an easier to operate system and some crucial gram saving. For most riders that may not seem like a huge deal but in the world of marginal gains that is elite XC racing, every advantage counts.

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Could SRAM be making a system that allows riders to ditch cable lockouts like these?

Looking at the rest of the components, we've already seen some athletes playing around with SRAM's existing AXS system to make their lives on the bike easier. Most famously, the Scott-SRAM team ditched the AXS paddles for blips on the underside of their grips that meant Kate Courtney and Nino Schurter could change gears without changing their hand position and without interfering with their Twin Loc systems. Could the left and right shifters be an official SRAM version of this with one button for upshifts and the other for downshifts?

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Kate Courtney's blips were SRAM branded as they are a modified version of the eTap road gearing.

The final piece of the puzzle seems to be a pedal mounted power meter. Currently, SRAM produces power meters through Quarq and we've seen a Blackbox chainring meter on a number of pros' bikes this offseason. Generally, the greater the distance between the power meter and the source of power, the more power can be lost so pedal power meters are often considered the most accurate. The pedal sensor combined with the power meter in the FCC requests could be an evolution of SRAM's power meter line for a more accurate tool for its riders.

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All the wireless applications use AIREA transmissions, which is SRAM's proprietary wireless protocol that has 128-bit encryption. They also use Bluetooth, which will most likely be used for software updates and setting controls, and ANT+for communication between devices. We imagine that all of the products will also be integrated into SRAM's Web Tools to allow riders a greater level of analysis about their rides.

We've reached out to SRAM for further information and will update you if we hear anything more.

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147 Comments
  • 282 2
 My RockShox suspension is already wireless and has been forever. Great, isn't it?
  • 66 3
 analog, unhackable, battery never dies. did i missed something?
  • 90 2
 @vemegen: Yes, the target audience Razz
  • 21 29
flag BartDM (Feb 3, 2021 at 13:56) (Below Threshold)
 @vemegen: yes, the dentists......
  • 14 1
 @vemegen: can we make the oil changes wireless and hands free?
  • 27 5
 Who would want DVD's when I have my sweet VHS player lol.
  • 4 1
 @fraserw: yup...don’t do ‘em!
  • 10 7
 @BartDM: +6, -8... We must have a few dentists floating around?
  • 1 0
 @vemegen: No barspins though
  • 11 3
 @DamianNZ: Nope. Just people tired of a very worn out joke.
  • 11 0
 Suspension communicating with a pedal sensor & power meter = suspension firm when pedalling above 500 watts, in medium when pedalling between 200-500 watts and open when pedalling lightly or coasting.
  • 2 0
 @Christofison: sure on an XC bike, but not on an enduro! the times I am putting out maximum power are times when I am charging through or into rough shit, or into a jump. I would rather have it tied power input+RPM+bike inclination angle+saddle positon+plus wheel speed. that is to say, it's way, way, waaaaay more complicated than that! lol. cheers
  • 2 0
 @fraserw: preferably when reaching the need and while ridding uphill! Smile
  • 2 0
 @vemegen: in case of coil: nearly bombproof function.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: Yeah, I did have XC racing specifically in mind...I also only ride trail/enduro
  • 84 0
 I feel like this is all just leading up to the inevitable crossover SRAM will make to the sex toy industry.
  • 6 0
 Dammit @rickybobby18 ...you may be onto something. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 already a thing :0
  • 17 0
 They don't even have to change the name - sRAM. Big Grin
  • 6 0
 @noapathy: XX1, NX, GX, SX...
  • 23 0
 @CSdirt: you're not supposed to use the AXS dropper that way
  • 8 0
 New meaning to Rear Shock??!
  • 13 0
 @stainerdome: Cane Creek ahead of the curve with the Double Barrel.
  • 1 0
 Hmmm,mmmmmmm,mm
  • 3 0
 Brakes??! You know where’s this is going...eventually a bike will have a ecu to control all the sub systems...The rider is just the input.
  • 72 1
 SRAM: The bicycle goes online on August 4th, 2021. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. ... It becomes self-aware at 2:14 AM, Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug
Pinkbike: Comments section fights back
SRAM: Yes. It launches its products against their targets in Japan.
Consumer: Why attack Japan? Aren't they our friends now?
Terminator: Because the consumer knows that the Japanese counterattack will eliminate its chances of finishing a ride due to a seized derailleur clutch
Pinkbike: Jesus...
  • 9 0
 Skynet always fucks up my birthday.
  • 2 0
 Cannot upvote this enough. Thank you
  • 1 0
 Excellent work!!
  • 53 0
 Hopefully this will allow us to pass the $20k barrier for a bike!
  • 1 0
 Can't be that much more then a bike with the brain or live valve, can it?
  • 6 0
 That's easily attainable. Instead of having metal studs on your fatbike tires, you could have one of Rolls-Royce's master jewelers place diamonds on your tires tread.
  • 1 0
 @rcroacha: about time!
  • 3 0
 Passing the $20k barrier is easy. We work on a Specialized Tarmac McLaren worth about $25k give or take. Eek
  • 47 0
 Pffft....next thing you know they'll come with electric motors too...
  • 36 3
 i want wireless brakes
  • 10 0
 Sounds terrifying. I'm sure it could work, but sounds terrifying. Like flying in an airplane. I'll do it, but never with a light heart.
  • 10 14
flag sjma (Feb 3, 2021 at 13:11) (Below Threshold)
 Brake-by-wire(less) has been mostly figured out in automotive applications and can probably fix the whole "wandering bite point" complaint people have about SRAM brakes. In theory, it's a relatively simple thing - the brake lever can be shaped as it always has been and can be connected to a load cell like high end racing sim brake pedals, or cheaper options can use a simple return spring with a potentiometer to measure lever position, either of which would send a signal to the brake caliper/integrated master cylinder (which could be switched to electric instead of hydraulic) to apply a set amount of load to the pads, which can remain consistent throughout the pad's life, and if you wanted to integrate a wear sensor into the pads, you could even get a real time readout on your phone of how much pad you have left. I'd be curious to see if there would be any temperature issues with this but TLDR it's possible.
  • 11 1
 Would that resolve all wandering bite points issues or create really bad ones, especially when the battery dies? Wink
  • 29 0
 @sjma: I think the wandering bike point is more of a shimano issue.
  • 3 0
 I don't know about that, F1 drivers have been complaining a lot about brakes after brake by wire was introduced in 2014 with the new hybrid regulations, and considering the teams have virtually unlimited budgets it doesn't really sound promising. Or maybe it would be fine, who knows
  • 2 0
 @mildsauce91: brain fart, my bad
  • 3 2
 @CSharp: can't have a wandering bite point if there's no biting at all *taps forehead*
  • 1 0
 @CSharp: What does it do when the battery dies (some of us are forgetful)? Lock up or just not work? Not sure I like either option, really.
  • 13 0
 @korbi777 “I want wireless brakes”.....

Dude, if you’ve got hydraulic discs = you do!
  • 2 0
 @noapathy: lock the rear unlock the front! As a joke you can swap your buddies Cali pets while they are taking a leak
  • 5 16
flag spaceofades (Feb 3, 2021 at 16:40) (Below Threshold)
 SRAM can't even make a set of WIRED brakes that work, would you trust wireless?
  • 1 0
 @sjma: eventually for sure! But I think you meant to say Shimano (not Sram) for the wandering bite point complaint....
  • 1 0
 @2-1RacingUK: haha got that point
  • 1 0
 Hate it if my bike‘s smarter than me...
  • 1 0
 No idea if this was a sarcastic comment or not. But sign me up! I hate cables, housing etc. I'm not a dentist, as so many like to joke. I make a pretty mediocre salary, but I love my bike, and love spending money on fun parts. My bike is worth about 6x as much as my car, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
  • 35 8
 I predicted this as soon as AXS came out. The ability to adjust compression settings wirelessly on the fly is a major game-changer in my opinion. The more cables we can keep off the bars while maintaining maximum adjustability is pretty sweet. tup
  • 9 0
 This could be a serious level up from the brain in the Epic's suspension. You could have the suspension lock up when the trail is smooth and you're pedaling, and then open up wide when you drop your seat post.
  • 4 2
 This is one piece of electronics I could get onboard with.
  • 3 1
 So you agree the Scott-SRAM team should ditch the twinloc first?
  • 2 3
 @jollyjared: serious question - a cable to do this is just too much extra stuff in the cockpit? I personally would like this functionality, but not at the risk of batteries dying.
  • 11 1
 @fraserw: engineers can design the servo motors or mechatronic valves to a default position (ie. fully open compression) as well as allowing analog adjustment in case of a fault or low SOC battery condition before it's dead along with ample warning from say, a cockpit display for all onboard devices. Now, users forgetting or ignoring to charge their batteries...no one can help that lol

Also, fully open-to-lockout is only one possible condition and something mechanical cable can handle but I think a really cool possibility with electronics is the ability to setup multiple maps/programs that can also integrate with other components on the bike as @jollyjared mentioned. Also, imagine being able to setup compression and rebound settings for different trail features (fire road pedaling, technical uphill, roots downhill, berms) and being able to choose which map you want with the press of a button.

Most will say, "That's too complicated, I'll never need it", "Set it and forget it", which is fine and that's why there's a Pike Select and Ultimate right? But electronics and batteries aren't something for us to be afraid of especially if the system is well designed, implemented and integrated with the end-user.
  • 6 0
 @szed3: I want a 3 position electronic remote on my handlebars for fully open, fully locked, and auto, with the auto-setting being programmable with inputs from power meter, dropper post, and some sensors for trail condition (accelerometer, inclinometer). It seems expensive and I'm sure it would be, but the actual hardware for all this stuff is super cheap, so it could trickle down someday.
  • 6 19
flag phops (Feb 3, 2021 at 18:09) (Below Threshold)
 >The ability to adjust compression settings wirelessly on the fly is a major game-changer in my opinion

Oh yea totally. You 180mm travel bike is going to be nice ad firm when you do that 5 foot tabletop and the 2 foot drop as your friend gets that instagram iphone shot of you with the #freeride tag, but then you push a button and suddenly its super supple when you carefuly navidate down a 10% grade with some rocks and roots. And at the parking lot, all the dads in full face helmets and body armor riding their hardtails will be super impressed by your $15k bike as you explain to them why you NEEDED to buy this expensive setup. Nobody with a modern $10k Yeti or Santa Cruz will even come close to you.
  • 8 0
 @phops: damn, someone's salty. lol
  • 9 0
 @phops: Who shit in your cereal?

A on the fly lockout pretty much handed Bruni the last race of the season in 2020 and ALMOST did the for the second to last race. This tech is coming to the top level of DH real soon and it will leave everyone who doesn't have this in the dust.

Sure, just because you won't be able to take advantage of it doesn't mean others won't be able to.
  • 2 9
flag phops (Feb 3, 2021 at 22:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Deep-Friar:

LMAO

Thinking that on-the-fly lockout is going to make a difference your riding because Loic Bruni won one race is one of the more delusional things I have heard this year, and its only February.

I shouldn't be too upset though, cause separating idiots from their money is a cornerstone of any succesfull buisness, so I guess SRAM is doing something right.
  • 6 0
 @phops: ok well then don't buy it when it comes out. That's a pretty simple concept. I'll buy it, and enjoy it, and you don't have to. No one is going to make you.
  • 3 0
 @phops: Have you padeled a DH bike before? It's terrible. Even at the world cup level every race has at least one sprint section. On Top of that most tracks have a lot of bike park sections. A much firmer suspension would be more than ideal to allow riders to pump more efficiently and hold more speed in berms.

When you set up a bike for race day you are always making compromises. Do I run less psi in my tires so I get more grip but suffer in the straight aways? Do I run my suspension stiffer for big compressions in the middle of the run and sacrifice small bump compliance? With a remote system you wouldn't have to choose and you could have several setups for different parts of the track.

What this will do for the top guys is huge and brings the sport closer to F1 in a lot of cool ways. Again just because you won't use it doesn't make it bad.

Also, did I say I was going to purchase it? Might want to read what I wrote again. Good luck on the second read through.
  • 1 3
 @Deep-Friar:

I really don't get why people don't understand the absurdity of comparing pro setups to regular riding. Give Bruni the lowest spec Demo, and he will destroy you no matter what bike you ride. And if you get on his bike, you will think its unrideable because all the pros run their suspension very stiff.

For the vast majority of riders out there, even before the regular compression settings start to matter, fitness is the one thing that is holding back their speed. So if you care about speed, until you can do a full 10/10 effort on a run without getting winded or fatigued, none of those gizmos matter.

Even if I granted you that a gizmo to change compression mid track would be at least interesting to mess around with, there is also zero reason to make it electric and expensive. Just like there are zero reasons to make groupsets electric.
  • 2 0
 @phops: ehh, I get what your saying but an edge is still an edge. If I’m carrying around 30 extra pound in my gut, lighter wheels on my bike are still going to make a difference. Sure, no gut AND lighter wheels would make more but I can buy lighter wheels while drinking IPAs.
  • 1 0
 @phops: there are a lot of good reasons to make drivetrains electric. For people like me who have wrecked hands from years of wrenching, being able to shift by merely pushing a button instead of having to throw a lever is a godsend. Not to mention how much a wireless shifting system helps clean up the handlebars. And from a mechanic's standpoint, installation and calibration is so much quicker and simpler on a wireless derailleur system.
  • 1 0
 @seraph: and it’s just fricken cool!
  • 1 1
 @seraph:

You gave me 3 very personal reasons. Its like saying you don't like handlebars/stem/grips separate, so you want an expensive integrated handlebars with all 3. Sure, spend your money on it, but that system doesn't solve any real problem, and is a waste of money.

Also, unless you have arthritis, some PT for your hands should get you shifting with a regular system plenty fine.
  • 1 0
 @szed3: Afraid, definitely not. Interested, partially. Wait until proven, definitely.

Thanks for the interesting perspective. I for one am not a good enough rider to really maximize even the parts I have, nor do I have the $$ to go better. But for those that do, I am sure they can find a use for fancy!
  • 16 0
 I fully expect the Rockshox AXS/Fox Live Valve setups to end up like GM's magnetorheological dampers with on-the-fly damping adjustment controlled by a few pre-selected setups (climb, descend, auto as an example). Combined with the integrated power meter data and electronic drivetrain information, we could see some seriously huge amounts of information generated about every ride. You could see just how efficient you are on climbs and you can see how techy/janky some of the climbs and descents are, which could use real time location-based data to allow suspension manufacturers to preload their hardware with course-specific damping information. One-touch magic carpet ride and once you start integrating a motor..you can optimize the bike's hardware for any rider to be KOM-killer. Another idea is that the suspension can autoset its sag every ride based on the rider's real time weight. The altitude information could be used for automatic bleeding of the air shafts...there's so many different applications for all of this information and it will be ruinously expensive for a while, but DAAAAMN could we get some fast bikes.
  • 18 2
 a few more years and we wont even need a rider...
  • 14 1
 Gets home from a ride, places the 14 batteries on charge. Carries 5 spare batteries. Purely from a logistics point of view, these systems just bore me.
  • 1 0
 I keep my the 3 spare batteries in the water bottle cage. My hydrapack is also battery powered
  • 3 0
 @fraserw: Steering by wire here. Same with my shoe buckles.
  • 2 0
 I dunno if these pointless systems are the result of companies just lacking any real imagination/innovation talent, or is the market that scared of anything new that companies are pretty much forced to just tack shit on to existing systems to keep things interesting.
  • 2 0
 @phops:

I don’t know. There has to be a certain level of creativity going on...

Head lamp battery
Bar light battery
Shifter batteries
Derailleur battery
Post battery
Fork battery
Shock battery
GPS battery
Shock whiz batteries (sans live valve)
Valve Stem batteries
Phone battery
Bike battery
GoPro batteries
Gimbal battery
Drone battery
Sunglasses battery
Ear buds battery
Wallet battery ????
  • 11 1
 There is such an easy application for this stuff. When my dropper is all the way, make my suspension firm up. When my dropper is down past 60%....make my suspension fully open. This is what Fox should have done with their hokey Live Valve nonsense. Then give me an app to tune/change/tweak and gather data from the electronic parts and boom...game changer. All of this other electronic stuff just doesn't do anything new or solve a problem....it just makes it electric and more expensive
  • 13 7
 My AXS seatpost battery lasts about 5 hours of riding I think. Hopefully they improve this as I would never buy one again. The amounts of rides it has strait up ruined is ridiculous. My Di2 on the other hand gets charged about twice a year and its the original XT system with the original battery. I could start a ride on zero battery bars and shift the whole time.
  • 7 0
 I'd have your local shop look into this and contact SRAM. I've been using one since it came out and can easily get 15hrs of ride time out of mine. Besides a simple bleed cycle a time or two, I've never had a single issue.
  • 12 0
 I wonder if there's something wrong with your battery. I charge mine maybe once every 40 hours of riding.
  • 3 1
 have you tried charging your batteries?
  • 19 9
 Here is a fix that worked for me: 1.) Loosen seat clamp and remove saddle. 2.) Loosen seat post collar and remove AXS dropper post and place in nearest trash bin. 3.) Buy TranzX (Brand-X, PNW, etc.) dropper post for $100-150, install in bike and install saddle on post. 4.) Go have fun on trails for 100s of rides for many years and never have a problem with your seatpost without ever charging it, for less than 20% cost of AXS. I'm not sure this will work for everyone but it has worked great for me; you will have to get used to the 12 grams of cable/housing.
  • 11 0
 @robw515: That extra cable will surely ruin the aero advantage I have against others. Can't do it man.
  • 4 0
 A friend of mine has a circa 2012 Scott Genius LT. If I remember correctly he has 7 cables coming off his bars. Front and Rear derailleurs, Front and rear lockouts, Front and rear brakes, and a dropper.

Obviously that's an extreme example, but I do appreciate that we're very near the point where one can get the same functionality while still having only the brake housing on the bars. I'm not big on "batteries everywhere", but I do like a tidy cockpit. I haven't regretted going with eTap and Di2 on my road bikes. In fact for an amateur bike builder, going wireless saves me several hours of frustration trying to get my cabling perfect (cue the internet bike pros who insist it takes 5 minutes to cable an internally routed bike. Good for you, it takes me hours) which is almost worth the price premium.

I think it'd be pretty slick to put the front shifter back on my bike, with one paddle controlling the seatpost and the other paddle as a shock lockout. The downside, from my perspective, is that you're locked into SRAM's ecosystem. We were (mostly) already there for drivetrain, so that wasn't a huge deal.
  • 7 0
 I am all here for wireless remote lockouts.
  • 2 0
 Same. Let's hear moar.
  • 7 1
 RockShox/SRAM is going to be on v4.0 by the time Shimano comes out with v1.0
  • 11 5
 Shimano v1.0 will be superior to SRAM v4.0 in almost every way, except for one small part that renders it inoperative when it fails...
  • 4 1
 Shimano already won the drivtrain competition considering that most teams in the Tour De France are on it.
  • 3 0
 I have what may be an ignorant question; With all the development and growth of wireless technology for shifting, dropper posts, suspension et. al., what is to stop pro racers from putting in tiny battery motors at their bottom brackets that are controlled by the same shifters (and thus easily hidden) to give them extra watts of power to cheat with? It has been an issue in road racing for some time. It's mechanical doping.
  • 7 0
 thermal cameras.
  • 1 0
 or a BFH
  • 2 0
 The ergonomics of the AXS shifter is a little bit odd to me, and I own the original paddle as well as the newer version. I'd probably spend the money for a setup similar to Kate Courtney's if it cost the same as the paddle shifter and didn't necessitate a blip box and two blips at a cost equal to GameStop stock's peak price.
  • 1 0
 @Counsel Paper hands. :-/
  • 2 0
 I know they're not super popular, but for two reasons I'm most excited for pedal based power meters to come to the mountain bike world. First, because even if they're really expensive it's still likely to be a lot cheaper than a power meter on multiple bikes. Second, but maybe more important, is that we won't have to see Levy riding enduro bikes in road slippers.

youtu.be/Nl0fXOp4oTM?t=99
  • 1 0
 I too like the idea of pedal based power meters for mountain bike and cyclocross since I could just swap them between the two bikes but I am always hesitant about dangling a sensitive and expensive piece of equipment of the end of a crank since pedal strikes are already a common occurrence. This does answer a question I've had since Sram acquired Powertap since they already had a pedal based power meter. Didn't see Sram having much interest in the hubs but the pedals offer more interesting possibilities.
  • 2 0
 Even cable fork lock outs seemed silly to me when I can very easily reach my fork from a seated position. I'm guessing this will be more for a brain type system that tunes the bike what terrain it's in at the time including info from gears, speed an angle of the bike an dropper position.....
  • 4 0
 so the Super-Bruni bike suspension from last season is now ready for production ?
  • 1 0
 the pwoermeter locking the suspension into trail mode when the power goes up and sprinting would be pretty cool, also when the power goes down and the bike turns downhill the dropper doing its thing and the suspension opening up yes please.. Now if the SRAM shifting could be smoother and less clunky and shifting did the same thing by monitoring heart rate and power output then we'd be into something like an automatic transmission.
  • 2 0
 Suspension communicating with a pedal sensor & power meter = suspension firm when pedalling above 500 watts, in medium when pedalling between 200-500 watts and open when pedalling lightly or coasting.
  • 1 0
 As this nonsense comes around to MTB, I look at my Moto and think: Man... you're so beatifully clean! internal drive train, coil suspension f&r, brakes that don't block or jam, no dropper post, suspension lockdown...

It really impresses me, the trouble people give to themselfs, finding an alternative, to something so simple as a C A B L E
One more feature, to had another 1000€/$/£ to bike price....meehhhh
  • 1 0
 So mountain bikes have electric shifting, electric seat, electric motor, and now electric suspension...... just put a airbag in the handle bar and call it a 2 wheeled automobile...... it’s hardly a mountain bike anymore, more a Range Rover
  • 1 0
 I think that one of the major drawback is that actually I can fix or at least try to fix my MTB and my road bike while when all these electronics will be largely accepted and for the masses if you have an electric problem on trailside it will be a pain in the ass for sure. Not for me.
  • 1 1
 The only wireless I'd consider (maybe, in a distant future when I don't know where else to spend my money and world hunger is solved) buying would be one to adjust tire pressure. No need for anything else. Dropper posts, changing gears seems so unnecessary and futile.
  • 2 0
 I was with you until dropper post ;p
  • 2 0
 @SLKING9000: haha, I meant wireless droppers. The cost compared to regular droppers dont make sense to me. Not to mention all the environmental issues that comes with a battery
  • 2 0
 @aug7hallak: oh ok I agree thenSmile
  • 3 0
 You kids and your wireless signals are ruining my dental radio signal reception!
  • 4 0
 Handsfree wireless handlebars?
  • 1 1
 OMFG Just more unnecessary crap to fix or go wrong when your thirty miles from home / car/ civilization .
i really hope this sht crashes and burns, but i suspect there will be plenty of suckers out there to keep the hype going .????
  • 1 0
 Could we see bikes being hacked and held to ransom, just like some peoples appendages were? www.vice.com/en/article/m7apnn/your-cock-is-mine-now-hacker-locks-internet-connected-chastity-cage-demands-ransom
  • 1 0
 If they can fix the shortcomings of fox live valve e.i. wires and lack of responsiveness, that would be way cool. They could call it Digiair or super charger haha
  • 1 2
 I think electronic stuff is cool but I think it will make the benefits of some, likely more expensive bikes, so giant that money will over power skill. The possibilities mentioned in some other comments have me worried that riding bikes fast won't deal with the rider soon and to keep up anyone will need the tech. Making the sport less approachable when you know that as hard as your train anyone with an expensive bike will beat you.
  • 8 0
 There’s no amount of electronic shifting that will make a bad rider good.
  • 1 0
 @DrPete: not shifting, suspension that knows the track, can alter settings perfectly every second, increased popularity of e bikes as well.
  • 2 0
 @CAshredder: I guess I could see that, but I just don't think the technology is anywhere near that level, and it's not like ebikes will appear in non-ebike races any time soon--at least not legally.
  • 1 1
 @CAshredder: Bike dirt bike companies don't have the racing budgets for something like that. How could a lowely weekend warrior? Even a dentist?
  • 4 0
 @fraserw: and at the end of the day you still need the endurance, focus, horsepower, line choice, and technical skill to win.
  • 1 0
 @DrPete: 100%.
  • 2 0
 I wish they could release an AXS GX so us plebs can taste some wireless shifting.
  • 5 3
 Can't wait for the first one who loses a race bacause he got hacked
  • 1 0
 Imagine an ebike with DI2, reverb axs, live valve, a remote lockout, and a garmin
  • 9 0
 Then watch as a 15 year old on a hardtail whips past you laughing at you on your 10k bike
  • 1 2
 @kingdick: Then laugh back (inside of course as one has good manners) at 15 year old at the end of the trail as you load your bike on the Kyber rack on your current model SUV and drive your self home whilst said 15 year old is waiting for a lift from his mom. No one who can afford a $12-15K mountain bike is ever going to be worried about what a 15 year old thinks of them.
  • 2 0
 When are the wireless brakes and wheels coming out?
  • 2 0
 Gyroscope to keep me upright??!
  • 1 0
 Add solar chargers to take away the need to constantly recharge with outlet electricity and you have something interesting.
  • 2 0
 I can't wait for sram to make axs brakes.
  • 3 0
 hold out for AXS brakes
  • 1 0
 it's nothing more than performance data collection, like the electronic Bottom Bracket
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 Good ol' Shimano... only 6 years behind the market as usual.
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 wireless pedals?
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 Stamp 11 axs? Tmac di2?
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 Next is remote steering.
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 Where's the e-components filter?
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 Haha, one day.....I'm not interested in Ebikes at all, but this stuff is cool to know about.
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 Hey mike in the pic of the grips there be a typo
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 Wireless power meter socks for ultimate accuracy.
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 Where did we go so wrong?
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 Wireless suspension? With batteries?

Is nothing sacred anymore...?
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 Still waiting for Automatic Transmission. Shifting gears is so old school.
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 F1 steering wheels coming to mountain bikes in 2022!
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 Why do i love my road bike? Because the entire thing is mechanical.
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 I can't wait for my wireless Guide or Code brakes! :O
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 All fun and games until someone starts jamming your brakes while you try to navigate something really steep and gnarly haha ( Shouldn't be that hard to do Big Grin )
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