Mavic Placed into Receivership in France

May 8, 2020 at 2:20
by James Smurthwaite  
Mavic SSC DH wheels

Wheel manufacturer Mavic has been placed into receivership by a French Commercial Court in Grenoble.

Receivership is initiated by creditors or banks that believe a business cannot pay its debts however, unlike in administration, directors cannot place their own company into receivership. The brand will now be taken over by a receiver who will control the assets and work in the interest of the creditors to avoid the company entering into liquidation.

Mavic was founded in 1889 and employs around 250 people worldwide including 200 at its base in Annecy. Last July, Mavic was supposedly sold from Amer Sports' portfolio to Regent, a US based private equity firm that also owns Diamondback, however according to reports in the French media, the sale did not go through as planned.

Gérard Meunier, secretary of the Social and Economic Committee (CSE), told France3, "People came to Annecy in July 2019 to tell us that we were a sleeping gem, that they believed in Mavic. And since then, nothing. Not an investment, not an answer."

Mavic Deemax Elite wheels

In the past week, it has emerged that, since February this year, Mavic has actually been owned by someone else entirely - M Sports International LLC, a Delaware based firm who have left almost no trace on the internet. Mavic’s President, Gary Bryant, resigned on the same day that M Sports took over and M Sports replaced him with a representative from a turnaround company called BySaving. It's worth saying that Regent still seem to believe they own Mavic, and they have the brand listed on their website portfolio.

The French courts have said: "A few days ago, staff representatives learned that, contrary to what had been publicly announced, Salomon had not sold their business to Regent LP but to M Sports, based in Delaware (USA), with no capital link with Regent!” In short, it's all looking like a bit of a mess.

Mavic's Social and Economic Committee is demanding accounts from Salomon (a skiing brand under the umbrella of Amer Sports, and a co-resident of Mavic’s Annecy factory) to clarify the details surrounding the sale. Meunier said, "[We want to know] under what conditions Salomon and the Amer Sports group sold Mavic? And who is behind this company M Sports and why it acquired Mavic?”

The company is now entering a six month observation period by the court. They will investigate the conditions under which Amer Sports sold Mavic and the details of M Sports and how it ended up acquiring Mavic.


249 Comments

  • 222 8
 It is sad, but on the other hand, their wheel did not improve. It is pricy, and with lots of problems with hubs, they need specific tools for everything, including spokes tension. I think they pay a poor strategy in the recent years. 15 years ago, their Deemax were the Must have, now it is really far from that.
  • 23 3
 100% agree
  • 24 3
 Sad indeed. While other brands like DT seem to get stronger...
  • 23 79
flag betsie (May 8, 2020 at 3:40) (Below Threshold)
 @headshot: Are DT stronger? Who owns DT, what are their debts, what is their liabilities what is their cash flow, EBITDA like?
  • 41 2
 The wheels of the industry will keep turning
  • 10 0
 Absolutely. Most big manufacturers have their own wheel sets and those parts are often supplied by Alex rims and DT.
  • 27 2
 @betsie: @betsie: stronger as a brand. Dont know what is their ebitda and etc but i know that nowadays most of us would go for DT instead of Mavic any time
  • 7 1
 I've got mavic xm1030 rims on my enduro, they're genuinely brilliant, really light, 30mm internal, haven't dented or come out of true, plus they look a bit like reserve carbon wheels with machined bumps on the internal diameter, which 1) looks rad 2) creates a thicker nipple seat. I think they'd have been really popular if people actually knew about them, i only found them by accident.
  • 16 0
 I wouldn't be surprised if Mavic has made more in clothing and accessories than in wheels for the last few years. Coincidentally, their clothing is pretty good, if a bit road-centric. I have some of their stuff and its well thought out, stylish and has lasted for years. Their helmets and shoes have a good rep as well.
  • 15 2
 Honestly don't agree. I've run loads of Mavic wheels (and Hope, DT, Spank etc etc) over the last 2 decades, and whilst there were some made of cheese, my Deemax and XA carbon pros of the last 3 years have been phenomenal, no breaks, no trying issues, and easily serviceable. Bought both at stunning prices too.
Here's hoping they find a buyer and can be resurrected, and keep making great products.
  • 11 3
 @79er: In today's world, you either buy carbon wheels or try to get standard alloy wheels. Mavic with their proprietary spokes was neither premium nor alu-sensible choice. There was no market for their products. Yellow hubs have shrunk the potential customers sprace even more.
Pitty cause I would happily buy their Day of The Dead rims if they were available for normal spokes.
  • 5 3
 can't help but thinking thats completely irrelevant to this story?!
  • 8 0
 @79er: bent a rim on a mavic front wheel , unable to buy just a rim , mavic wanted me to send the wheel to them for inspection/repair . binned the wheel , bought DT Swiss ever since .up to that point I was a mavic fan
  • 11 1
 @betsie: DT is privately held.
www.bike-eu.com/home/nieuws/2016/01/ownership-of-dt-swiss-group-changed-10125443
Their financials are not public knowledge. I think what @headshot was referring to was their products being more desirable than Mavic's.
  • 7 1
 @pbuser2299: The problem is they're still heavier (and at RRP I think more expensive) than a DT EX511 which pretty much sets the benchmark for enduro rims. So unless you specifically wanted Mavic... you'd just buy the DT.

Mavic used to make the best rims - sensibly priced, extremely well made but fundamentally un-exciting. But thats what you want from a rim isn't it?

Should have brought rainbow ano back though. That would have sorted it Im sure.
  • 11 1
 I broke a spoke on an Eason Haven 26, which had proprietary spokes, proprietary 24 holes rims. You needed to send the wheels to a 'verified' wheel builder. That's the moment I said i don't proprietary wheelsets anymore. Standard hubs, standard spokes, standard rims, standard nipples. Mavic is the opposite of that, I see many people hunting for expensive spare parts to fix their expensive wheels.
  • 2 0
 @79er:
Back in time you could get d’eMac with MP3 warranty , and they were really strong, with also a strong policy of warranty that made them the number one.
I have owned since a pair of crossmax , and there is constantly problems with the free hub. My point is that I don’t think I can say that mavic wheels got better over the last 10 years , while dt , hope , or this kind of brands did
  • 1 0
 I agree, I still have two sets of 2006 DeeMax wheels that are in decent shape and have outlived multiple bikes. Working on them when you need to is a pain, even the axle bolts are custom threads....
  • 3 0
 @enduroNZ: ditto the wheel in the sky
  • 3 2
 @Dmitry81: I would run DT240 on every wheelset if I was a dentist, unfortunately I am an engineer so only have 1 set of 240s (2nd hand) and a set of 440s (2nd hand) the 240s are just great.

I dont know what either companies end supply chain and manufacturing costs are, their marketing costs, overheads etc also, I guess that will be what will be being looked at now and the assets stripped.

Mavic have not kept up with the competition in MTB, no idea what it is like in road where the money is, but they used to be everywhere in the TDF etc.
  • 12 0
 @betsie: DT Swiss the corporation is text book for how a business should be run and managed. The two owners (2 people) are some of the smarter business people in the bike industry and the strategy of the company is sound and forward thinking. Have a look at their website. The account in the about us section is pretty accurate.
  • 1 1
 @oatkinso: Because you're 100% correct.
  • 24 0
 This announcement has
very little to do with the product. Chief concern is that a ghost is driving the ship and slaves at the oars are about to starve if the ship runs aground unless Captain Jack can solve this mystery, free the crew from this spell & save the slaves
  • 6 4
 When you can buy a set of Chinese carbon wheels for the same price of mavics top alloy rims there start to be problems. I also think the fact that they never made wide rimmed rims had a big effect on their mtb side of the business, don’t know much about the road side though.
  • 3 0
 @79er: I sort of agree. My Mega came with XA Elite wheels, which are light, but really too few spokes for an enduro bike. The rear took a beating in morzine and wouldn't true (presumably due to only 24 spokes). But they warranted it and let me replace it with a Deemax Elite, which is totally bomb proof. The front XA Elite has done loads of enduro races and is still true, running nicely.
The problem could of course actually be financial funny business rather than a structural weakness in the company...
  • 25 4
 Have you all lost your marbles on this thread or something? Your opinions about the quality of Mavics products have literally nothing to do with the news that Mavics owner (AMER Sports / Salomon) said they'd sold them to a company (Regent LP) when infact they'd sold them to someone completely different (M Sports), resulting in their near administration and total lack of job security for their unsuspecting staff. Jesus wept.
  • 2 0
 @powderturns: This is a sound point, though I don’t know where Mavic will be tomorrow.
  • 4 1
 @oatkinso: Agree with you that’s the main story here. But the other story is that they’ve been actively courting investors and got nothing significant despite being a ‘gem’. That suggests some weakness in their market position and/or growth prospects....which does tie in to these ‘broke a spoke’ comments somewhat.
  • 1 1
 @oatkinso: yes corporate chicanery at its finest. Reminds me of this kind of nonsense...
www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/4E038408-7CD2-11EA-B298-E6606EABF547
  • 9 0
 @frorider2: I understand what you're saying here but firstly, from reading the article above it wasn't Mavic who said they were a 'gem' (and frankly thats quite patronising seeing as they're one of the oldest and most recognisable brands in cycling), it was the seemingly murky 'M Sports', seemingly trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

Secondly, Mavic shouldn't be chastised for reflecting that they needed to find investment in order to change and improve, especially when they sought the help Amer Sports, a seemingly well respecting name in the industry. Santa Cruz did the same thing when they sold out to Pon Holdings did they not?

It's a bit of a leap to suggest that broken spokes and perceived quality of product led to the position we've read about above?
  • 11 4
 I don't care and don't mind about will happen to Mavic. It is well deserved and they had enough time to react. Mavic rims were great because they were made in France by french workers and their metalworking process was good enough. But since the mid 90s the only thing they did was pushing for their crappy wheelset. Planned obsolescence was and is their middle name. Instead of showing the door to their worst engineers, they did it with their workers by outsourcing the production to eastern Europe. By giving the finger to their workers, their craftsmanship went down the drain. Dear Mavic well done ! One of the oldest cycling company killed by some marketing wankers that could not organise a piss-up in a brewery.
  • 2 0
 @oatkinso: yea exactly, whenever you see a strange transaction and the buyer is based out of delaware or course haha.....hmmmmm something fishy here
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: I love captains crunch. But he always scratches the roof of my mouth...
  • 2 0
 @nick1957:
Yeah I had an issue with the front wheel as well few years ago and it was a pain dealing with them. To be aluminum Way to expensive and the propriety tools etc became a pain. On We are one now for two year of hard used and not one single issue with them, simply stellar.
  • 1 0
 I've never ridden mavic and wouldn't have even considered buying a wheel from them because everything I've ever read said UST tires regularly tore the bead off. Sure you can regular tires with them but why bother? If UST had worked they just might have won the game but refusal to pivot away from it when it clearly didn't is an obvious death sentence.
  • 2 0
 @lkubica: I agree. I would love to buy a set of the Day of the Dead wheels... For the same price as I can build my own wheels with hope hubs and good alloy rims.
They're charging a premium price for a product that no one but themselves regard as premium rightly or wrongly. The thing I really like is the sealed spoke bed and threaded nipples. Really a good idea.

Sadly they spent too long telling people what they wanted rather than making what people were buying.

Back in '95 it was Mavic or nothing. Now it's only just scraping into people's top ten in terms of what brand they want to buy.
  • 4 0
 Mavic has always been such a mystery they don't even know who owns them.
  • 1 0
 @pbuser2299: I don´t know in what galaxy these would be considered light?
  • 3 1
 @nick1957: I don't see the problem with what they did. Their product failed so they wanted to see it and maybe figure out why it did and replace it for you. Sounds like a win win to me unless you dinked the rim being stupid and just want to blame mavic I see no reason why you wouldn't have just sent it.
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: I don't remember the exact figure they were equal or less than Stan's flows, thats pretty light in my book. Never got on with Stan's, eyelets always cracked, mavics are better in that respect
  • 1 0
 @pbuser2299: You must have read wrong number, you bought them from superstar I would guess? Because they are around 100g heavier than flow mk3 but on SS website there was same weight quoted for 25mm and 30mm rims. Stans rims only crack if you overtighten spokes, use tension meter and they won´t, or if you want to be really really sure they wont crack there are nipple washers for that. I´m not saying that 1030 doesn´t look like a good, durable rim though, I would´t expect any less at that weight and price.
  • 1 0
 @betsie: dt350s then?Smile
  • 1 0
 Spot on! Seems like Amer couldn't find a buyer so they've made one up. Wink
  • 1 0
 @mattvanders: the only problem I see is that you rather pay a Chinese knock off because is cheap rather a rim made in Europe. Just dont be surprised when in a couple of years there will be no Europeans companies and China will rise prices on everything as so far it’s their goal.
  • 2 1
 @zoobab2: Easton wheels are bloody shocking, at least Magics were always decent
  • 2 0
 The French won't bow down and let an icon of their incredible cycling heritage die without an inquest and I respect that.
  • 2 0
 @kusa: Economics says that if that happens manufacturing will simply shift elsewhere. To a large degree it already has. Look up comparative advantage re: economics.
  • 2 0
 Most of Mavic's stuff is made in Bulgaria isn't it? I was under the impression it's only flagship stuff made in France these days. I could be worng on that.

DT also has two factories I seem to recall. The Swiss one serves the R&D, business and aftermarket manufacturing The Taiwanese one serves the OEM stuff. That's what someone told me anyway.
  • 1 0
 @oatkinso: we are trying to let you know why they are in this mess ,nothing to do with the random adminestration fairies
  • 1 0
 @kusa: far from it, I have had 3 pairs of Mavic wheels in my time but they don’t offer anything in their range to suit my needs (width of internal rim, 30mm or over). I love their UST set up over the use of rim tape. When I could not get what I wanted from Mavic I bought a set of roval traverse carbon wheels (technically a specialized/ dot swss wheel so do they count as a big corporate monster wheel set) (great wheel set with the plug system for the spoke holes to make them tubeless). I still have them and had no problems. I bough a set of nextie carbon rims and had them built up at the local bike shop for second bike and have been more than happy with their performance.

All this before I even talk about the tyres that they make and I know of no one that runs them (even if they come with the wheels for free). eBay would have loads of brand new sets when the crossmax xl and enduro did sell or came standard, everyone would change tyres.
  • 1 0
 @headshot: 100% agree if in doubt buy DT wheels
  • 1 0
 @zoobab2: I had exactly the same wheels and experience. Now I invest in hubs and go custom alloy builds (Project 321, DT Swiss bladed spokes and Stans Flows).
  • 1 0
 @Euskafreez: I think it started when adidas bought Salomon, beginning of the end. sad
  • 1 0
 @nick1957: I bought a new DeeMaxPro rim two months ago, built it onto my XMaxXL hub and spokes. Why you got involved with Mavic the company you don't explain.
  • 1 0
 @wig: I gave up long before that mate !
  • 1 0
 @yonibois: if i understand the question , mavic wheels were on the new bike when purchased, and i liked them
  • 46 1
 What a shitshow. I feel for those who have lost their jobs. An iconic brand of cycling now the way of the dodo. You could spot those sick black and yellow hubs on many a nice ride.
  • 19 12
 Yeah but how often do you see them anymore? It’s a rare site on a trail and pretty much non existent at bike parks.
  • 23 8
 @nyhc00: Because they're too far in front of you to see them Wink
  • 3 4
 @ad15: Maybe i need an ebike then.
  • 3 33
flag ewikpark (May 8, 2020 at 4:13) (Below Threshold)
 @nyhc00: money won't buy skill loooooser
  • 46 0
 @ewikpark: No but it will buy speed. There's a guy down the street that sells it.
  • 34 1
 @ad15: You sure it's not because the riders are stranded in the woods with a broken spoke while they wait two months for the $20 replacement spoke and $50 nipple wrench to arrive from Mavic?
  • 15 4
 @mnorris122: Sam Hill, Laurie Greenland,Brook Macdonald seem to be doing ok with them...

I've got a pair of crossmax onone bike that have been nothing short of perfect for 5 years, have a set of deemax on my other bike, again, no problems whatsoever, they've never even needed trueing..

You get a spoke tool in the box with the wheels...
  • 4 2
 @mnorris122: Almost spit my morning coffee on the monitor laughing. Well played, sir. Damn well played. This is the story of every damn Mavic wheel I see in my shop.
  • 5 0
 @ewikpark: your parents are doing a great job raising a kid who's in for rude awakening someday.
  • 4 0
 @ad15:

Well yes, but they don’t have to worry about sourcing expensive proprietary parts, like us peasents.
  • 1 1
 @cvoc: crash replacement program is actually really good. i guess living an hour away from their HQ helps too
  • 1 0
 @mnorris122: Can confirm. Had deemax’s on my Transition Preston years ago. Needed two new spokes. Took 3 months and a small fortune for the shop to receive them.
  • 1 0
 @solem22: and yellow! Who the f*ck still wants a yellow hub, much less a painted yellow rim FFS!
  • 1 0
 @nyhc00: lol, I know what I was going to get when I posted that comment
  • 47 4
 Come on guys you are showing Deemaximum amount of disrespect with these puns
  • 31 1
 I hope this is untrue and they will be able to spin this round quickly.
  • 17 9
 I need a spoke for my Crossmax. Crap.


When I was 17 years old Mavic was very fast to support me (and thousands of others) with free rims. I remember (now fondly) Mavic sending me four Open4-CD rims...then wondering how in the hell my broke ass was going to make them into a wheel...since then, I have been very loyal to Mavic as a brand.
  • 1 2
 Amer Sports need to be interrogated by the receivers. They should be grabbed by the nipples and forced to surrender their rims until they buckle and and start to torque. We need to get to the hub of this, otherwise this could go round and round and round. If they cooperate then they could be given a quick release.
  • 31 6
 Wonder who wheely owns them?
  • 2 2
 Ah, the circle of life.
  • 18 2
 Sad to see such an historical brand going through the mud. Mavic has done more for the sport than probably all the other wheel manufacturers combined. Yes in the last few years they were falling behind but we cannot forget the history.
  • 25 8
 Globalisation and culture capitalist firms strike again.
  • 10 0
 Vulture*
  • 2 0
 Vulture!!!
  • 15 6
 Obviously it was capitalism and those evil monocle wearing supervillains.
Nothing to do at all with Mavic going from being THE mtb wheel/rim brand to something that nobody I know has any remote interest to own
  • 8 5
 xoxo jonathanthirteen, from my iphone posted on a international website based in Canada. those capitalist evil bastards, how dare they.
  • 5 2
 Chinese shell company. This reeks of that.
  • 1 4
 @t-stoff: can I upvote you twice?
  • 1 1
 @Arierep: Bingo. They stagnated for sure...at least on the MTB side of things
  • 12 1
 Sorry, but ...no. And yes; sort of.

Once upon a time Mavic sold a lot of product in the OEM market. They did so because lots of us old folks (back when we were young folks) associated Mavic with quality products. Then, they became stagnant. Their products had some classic failure modes.

Then, lots of people realized that they could get the "Commie Bastards" in China to build wheels for less. So bike companies created "wheel brands" and Mavic, having lost the brand premium it once commanded, lost the OEM business to low labor cost companies.

Mavic sales have plummeted from €130 million a year in 2015 to €70 million last year, which was a 20.5 per cent decline on 2018’s €88 million. In 2019 they had a net loss of €12.8 million. That is a recipe for going out of business.
  • 2 0
 This sounds like some Marty Byrde tricks.
  • 4 4
 @t-stoff: I like how the article does a pretty good job of laying out that vulture capitalists had their hands in it, and you need to interject some subjective non-sense to justify your capitalism bootlicking. A++

The "capitalism created the internet, cell phones, etc" garbage is just icing on the cake!
  • 15 0
 @schofell84:
The problem is that the article is flat out wrong. It is well known who bought Mavic. Mavic was sold to Regent LLP (Limited Liability Partnership) which created a new corporate entity, M Sports, to keep the liability of owning Mavic at arms length, so to speak. The purchase price was not made public. It is possible that all they did was agree to take over the liabilities.

Mavic was pouring money down the drain at an alarming rate of over €50,000 per employee per year. The only reason to do that is if you expect a future return on investment. Likely once they owned Mavic and could talk to potential future customers they discovered that it was as valuable as a business as John Nance Garner described being VP of the USA: "not worth a pitcher of warm piss." Very likely Regent has lost money on the deal.

I once worked for as an engineer for a small firm that was bought by a private equity firm. They thought we added value to their existing portfolio. Then, one of our sales people told a customer about an R&D project. That customer told another, who told another... Sales dried up. The new technology should have been sold years in the future. It was rushed to market. We spent $20m on warranty work for $16m in sales. The loss was about $400,000 per employee.

They paid for the loss as the purchase price of the patents, moved the people who were willing to move into one of the other companies, and closed up our company. The PE firm lost money on the deal, but kept alive some technology that they needed for their other businesses. I got a new job in a different industry.

Also, the Cell Phone was invented by a team of engineers working for Motorola, so, yes, it was invented by a capitalist firm who viewed it as a way to make money.

The following is from the Bike Europe web site about the sale:

After announcing its intention to sell its bicycle business as part of its group portfolio, stock-listed Amer Sports Oyj has now entered into an exclusive agreement with global private equity firm Regent, LP to sell Mavic S.A.S. The purchase price is not disclosed. Amer Sports second bicycle component brand Enve is not included in the sale.
  • 9 2
 @Dangerous-Dan: you dirty capitalist pig, how dare you come here with facts and actual market knowledge?
  • 1 0
 @makripper: "On December 7, 2018, Amer Sports announced a buyout offer by a consortium led by Anta Sports of China. The company's shares were valued at €4.6 billion, 40% over their average market value. Under the terms of the offer, Amer Sports will remain a separate business entity with no immediate changes in management or workforce, while Anta Sports shall provide R&D and production resources required for expansion on the Chinese market."
  • 4 2
 @Dangerous-Dan: so capitalism at it's core rushed that firm to make shitty products.

You're arguing for me.

Also, cell phones were derived from government funded advancements for military communication.
  • 3 2
 @Dangerous-Dan: you also described verbatim how vulture capitalists ruin companies. I mean you lived it.
  • 3 2
 @schofell84: you rude (according to your profile) GG , have ridden an Intense, a Turner, a GT etc. Pink Bike, etc. All 100% capitalism. I suppose you sold all your Russian bikes and forcefully give 100% of your income to a government official because they know better than you how to spend it right? Your argument is childish
  • 1 3
 @schofell84: and the mobile phone may have been seeded by military but that military is funded 100% by capitalistic society. Same with the internet. Mostly the porn industry pioneered the internet video transfer protocols for videos, photos, and other large file formats including streaming
  • 1 0
 Instead of the tired argument of blaming the pencil pushers, why not blame the owners of these companies that constantly sell out to these firms?
  • 1 0
 @SvenNorske: haven't you heard of capitalism? Google norske and norske Canada..
  • 1 1
 @bman33: The internet was also a taxpayer (SOSHLIZM) funded invention.

Have a good day, I'll carry on being "childish".
  • 1 0
 @Dangerous-Dan:sending their rim manufacturing to China didn't really help either.
  • 1 0
 @schofell84: I can see you lack comprehension. Taxpayer-funded is not need socialized and/or socialism. a capitalist form of government still has taxes and that's where the seeding came from. Everything you see and use on the internet on a daily basis was developed by independent companies
  • 1 1
 @bman33: lol ok guy.

Apparently developing products only exists in the capitalism vacuum too. I'm proud of the bootlicking effort though. It's pretty solid.
  • 2 0
 @schofell84: Never said all innovation happened in a vacuum or Capitalism had a monopoly on it. If so, please quote me on it. I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your attitude towards a a fantastic system that by all accounts we can see here and on your Pinkbike profile you take full advantage of while simultaneously talking shit about like an an entitled college kid who's parents finally cut them off. Do some abuse the system, sure. Name a system anywhere that doesn't have abusers. However, if being proud of who/where I am and pointing out the gaps in your statements is 'boot licking' then by all means call me a boot lick . Now maybe you aren't the smug guy you are coming across as here. Hell, we are all on Pinkbike, we all like bikes...maybe we could have a beer and be cool.

I wish you the best and rubber side down.
  • 1 0
 @bman33: If it doesn't have the monopoly on invention then you can't claim that's what created "XYZ". Maybe that's the difference between logic and comprehension. I'll pass on the beer.
  • 1 0
 @SvenNorske: completely separate set of transactions and deals. Mavic had been unloaded prior to this.
  • 17 1
 Wow, I will miss the 2 piece axles and proprietary spokes.
  • 12 23
flag RoadStain (May 8, 2020 at 3:27) (Below Threshold)
 French engineering ;-)
  • 6 2
 @RoadStain: You never had a set of 501's Wet behind the ear's pup that you are.
  • 13 2
 Any chance we all can get a refund on 2020 and start again? Too much collateral damage and seeing another iconic brand in the poohouse just isn't cricket.
Lets hope something good comes from this, whatever the hell it is that's going on.
Peace
  • 3 5
 if anything, it will go from a classic brand (think Roval) to just another name under another branded marketing company (but, not Specialized).
  • 4 1
 @RoadStain: it's been under an another brands umbrella for years.. first salomon, then Amer.
  • 11 0
 Joke all you want, but this is pretty sad. Mavic wheels have been a integral part of mountain biking from the start, pushing boundaries and thinking outside the box. So thanks to everyone at Mavic who played their part in making the sport what it is today. I’m sure all other wheel manufacturers have all looked at how Mavic have done things at some point along the way where they want to admit it or not.
  • 13 1
 Agreed. They’ve been an iconic brand in the early 2000s when the sport was growing. A Kona with Marzocchi and Mavic deemaxes. That was something
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: pssh all about the 24inch mavic xy rims.
  • 7 1
 @makripper: I remember when there was nothing more desirable in the wheel world than Yellow Deemaxes or the grey 321 disc which later became 729s. Preferably laced to dt 440. The poorer people were using Sunrims Single and Double tracks. If you were into hucking you were running Double Wides! Oh boy... and the Magura brakes. Louise and Gustav!
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: the xy predates the 321. The 521 were the shit until the 321 came out. Slightly wider and lighter with no braking surface.
Nah double-wides and singlewides first those were too soft and dented just by looking at them. I loved my singlewides tho..they redesigned and made the new gen double and single tracks stiffer and cheaper. Hard to true but literally bullet proof. The next gen after that. The mtx were a mix between double track and double wide.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: 321 were great rims. I still use then on a city bike. I also have a pair of Sun Doublewides in white which are for the rebuild of my 2001 white Turner DHR with twin top-tubes (circus/parade bike). Too bad it has an unusable head tube angle but I got it super cheap.
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 @endlessblockades: sounds like a sick ride a guy I rode with had a 2010 dhr. Angles not much better and he killed it on that thing
  • 2 0
 Except it was Keith Bontrager re rolling MA-40s that got Mavics start in mtb.
It took him quite a while to convince them to make them themselves, as a company they've always seemed resistant to change.
Sometimes you have to make/sell what people are asking for, not what you think they want!
  • 1 0
 @jabbi: MA-2s, I believe.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: the first time the brand really moved the needle for me was seeing a set of Heliums under a pro cyclocrosser. Mavic really introduced the idea of the pre-built system wheelset to the masses. Those wheels were distinctive and expensive and trick. None of the rest of their ideas really caught fire the way those first sets of hoops like Deemax and Helium did.
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: Yes. I think from MTB side it was the Deemaxes and Crossmax SLR. Quite frankly I think it was the reintroduction of yellow Deemaxes (after 2 or 3years on Silver ones) that was their golden age. In the same
Period they made the Crossmax SLR with one red spoke. As ridiculous as their own spokes were... that red spoke was worth everything! From 2007 it went downhill for them, and I think ZTR caused it. Nobody cares what material their rims were made of. Sections and weights were spot on. The moment arch EX and Flow EX were released it was Almost game over. I remember hoping they would release 25mm internal Crossmax SX. Then DT released their 1 series rims and it was the end. Only this year They made the 1030 series. It’s probably too late. We’ll see.
  • 14 2
 Nothing screams ‘we didn’t keep records’ like a Delaware shelf company fronting a corporate vulture capital takeover.
  • 2 0
 A friend started a business in California, got funding, investors forced him to open a subsidiary in Delaware, because the law and the lawyers have "standardized" there, for obvious fiscal reasons. Like MNCs all have their patents/copyright/trademarks/designrights in Holland and pay 0% of taxes in Europe.
  • 1 0
 @zoobab2: yes, that’s the point of a Delaware shelf company. Very few other first world places with legal system to facilitate enforcement where such arrangements exist.
  • 1 1
 @heinous: shelf?! you mean shell?
  • 2 0
 Delaware is a huge red flag. They are one of the world's largest enablers of the shadowy oligarchs in Moneyland.
  • 2 0
 @makripper: no, ‘shelf’ is a term commonly used when lawyers rapidly set up transactions and structures using pre registered companies that have never traded but are left ‘on the shelf’ until someone needs it. Like a cleanskin.
  • 1 0
 @makripper: shelf companies can be shells, and shell companies can use shelf companies.
  • 1 0
 @heinous: You mean second world...
  • 1 0
 @heinous: cool. Didn't know that
  • 9 1
 While it’s always sad to see an iconic brand struggle, Mavic hasn’t brought anything to the table in almost 10 years. Every article and product release in the last decade has felt years behind, or left people asking “Why?”
Before dt released the EX471 rim, the best alloy wheel was a mavic hoop laced to a dt hub. A 721/823 rim laced to a 340/440 hub was about the strongest wheel you could ask for at the time. Dt didn’t have to try very hard to take the alloy wheel market once they sorted out what aluminum to use. They used to be butter soft, and then Gwin happened to give them some of the best marketing a wheel company could ever ask for. The best thing that mavic has done in the last decade for innovation of their product, was to put a ratchet in some of their hubs. Which I’m pretty sure was all a round about deal thanks to being owned by Enve (Amer)
If they fold, I’ll miss the iconic image they brought to the industry. But I will certainly not miss having to call someone in a warehouse In Utah to get a replacement spoke for a customer, having to buy a pack of 5 overpriced spokes, and then waiting a month and half for them to show up, only to use proprietary tools to install said spoke.
  • 7 0
 That dude in Utah has been super helpful with minor issues on my deemax ultimate lol, he's a highlight of customer service in this industry and has a direct line.
  • 3 0
 @DirtyRider13: he is extremely helpful and works super hard. Should clarify, that shipping delay was caused by Mavic’s inventory system crashing and not him. So cheers to him for hanging in there. Hopefully he finds a good company to work for
  • 1 0
 Yea back in the day shimano road hubs laced to an open pro or cxp33 was the go to wheel set....now I can get a budget dt swiss rim for half the price that doesn't have a 1990s width.
  • 1 0
 @DirtyRider13: yes he is. Sent me a wheel no questions asked.
  • 8 0
 As a former Mavic employee, this is really sad. There have been some awesome, passionate people that I like to call my friends that have worked there...we all "bleed yellow." Communications between Mavic France and Mavic USA... and further between AmerSports and Mavic have always been a bit of a mess, but it's a shame to see all this mismanagement happen.
  • 3 0
 as a former Mavic employee (I left less than 3 months ago) Communications were non existent between management and lower employees. All that was promised when they split from Amer (benefits,retirement matching, etc) were not honored. Everything changed day to day and no one could ever get a clear answer to anything.
  • 2 0
 @CSage13: @luke5: as a current Amer-brand employee I feel really badly for you guys. Amer leadership basically admitted to not being the best owners for the brand, of not creating the right strategies to make the brand successful. All of the remarks on this thread about "they had it coming to them" and "poor products" could be cherry picked and applied to any other damn bicycle company. I've exploited the hell out of the pro-deals with Mavic for years, and while there were certainly some repeat offenders in part quality or engineering, I never experienced an unpredictable failure, or an inability to get something repaired. Sorry it ended up this way, but I would feel proud to have been a part of a company like Mavic. Best of luck to both of you.
  • 1 0
 @CSage13: There's a group full of ex-mavic teammates on Facebook, feel free to join. haha I left before the move to Ogden. I had actually been telling the GM at the time that it was only a matter of time before we moved and he kept denying it. But ya... I don't want to get into detail too much on a public forum but we had absolutely nothing but issues between France and the US and any kind of support from AmerSports was pretty much non-existent until the move. That's awful what happened to all the benefits. Is Gun still over there in service or did he leave? I know (probably like everyone) he was trying to get out.
  • 1 0
 @twozerosix: Thanks man. I got out a few years ago. I feel bad for everyone this affected. The product wasn't BAD.... it was outdated and they never listened to their target market (narrow rims), but it was never outright bad... there were issues like every other company for sure. I still have and run a bunch of mavic gear and wheels without issue.
  • 10 1
 This is wheelie depressing, court proceedings must be tyre some for all involved. I hope Mavic stay above water for DeeMax possible time and get a shoe in the market again.
  • 6 0
 All my 26" rims ever were Mavic and the pair of MTB shoes I bought from them a few years ago are the best; stiff, lightweight, comfortable and supremely grippy when walking even over rocks. I really hope Mavic can turn this around.
  • 6 1
 I've worked for a few companies that were "sold" to rich LLC's and let me just say, the people in charge promise you rivers of beer, unicorns and rainbows. But 6 months in, they stop coming around. The river of beer dries up. The unicorns move on to different pastures. The rainbows slowly fade away day after day. At some point, that smiling LLC is literally telling you they want more because the other investors want to see the beer, unicorns and rainbows grow. But the overtime, cut work staff and lack of proper working conditions, old machines, old tools, patched repairs, extreme heat or cold and ZERO pay raises for years whilst someone sits and makes hand over fist money takes it's toll. It's no longer fun. At some point, you realize you are just a bullet point in a millionaire's portfolio. It's a horrible practice, because you're just a number. Never have I seen someone come in and say, "We have something here! Let's make it better!". The old adage has always been, "You have to spend money to make money". Well, no longer is that true. They could have taken Mavic, hired knowledgeable, current engineers, rethought tooling for rims, standardized hubs for ease of servicing, dropped the proprietary spokes and made tubeless rims, not UST rims, for easy mounting. There is no shame in looking like the Jones', you just need to be the better family. Sure, your say, $20 million investment cost you an extra $2 million, but if you get solid reviews, people will notice, especially the new riders. Unfortunately, I have been around since the quality issue of their ceramic coated rims, they would break. A few good reviews would change my mind though. Because, prior to that, their rims and aftermarket hubs (they sold hubs at one time) in the early 90's where great pieces. In the 80's and early 90's, it was always the brand that held a certain standard, "Oh, Mavic! Nice". Shame it hasn't been since. Shame on the powers that be.
  • 5 0
 I've run many Mavic wheelsets over the years and I've never had such set it and forget it wheels. As a "plow" riding I often end up with blown side walls, dented rim beds and flatspots. Never on my Mavic wheelsets. In fact my cross max XL's are still the best wheelset I've owned and never once did I have to really true them

That being said, all of their tech, tires and clothing could give a certain dog like component and suspension company group a leg up on Shimano and Sram if they sold off Easton and replaced it with mavic
  • 5 1
 Large company with decades of heritage gets bought and sold like a trading card by massive conglomerates with little or nothing to do with the actual industry until it ends up in some state of bankruptcy and/or chaos. Real shocker. Never seen that here before.
  • 3 0
 Mavic hasn't innovated or made any real updates in years. Add to that their service took months if you needed a proprietary part, it was ridiculously expensive and they had a smug attitude if you ever contacted them (as a consumer or shop). Just this thread alone points to that. They dug their own grave.
  • 7 0
 To save themselves in todays mtb market Mavic have to make a $625usd carbon rigid fork with bottle mounts on the side....
  • 7 0
 Sam Hill put em out of business busting wheels
  • 4 5
 First thought was "what about Sam Hill"? Mavic really has had no other significant relevance aside from sponsoring Sam, in years. Best to let this company die if they can't perform anymore. Sam on Hope! Hope knows how to innovate and stay relevant.
  • 2 0
 I hope Sam already received his contract money...
  • 1 1
 @jimeg: surf internet before Posting bs
1st that comes to my mind is Troy Brosnan, pretty sure there were many more relevant riders on Magic in recent years.
  • 6 1
 Mavic rims are bombproof, their hubs are straight shit though. hopefully someone buys them out... Raceface Fox corp... omfg yes.
  • 4 0
 One would think when you buy a company, there might be a receipt or a transfer of ownership paper, or even a bank transaction. Hell, I wouldn't even buy a wheelset without proof of sale!
  • 3 0
 Used to work in M&A. HOW with the mountains of paperwork that has to be filed, did 1. Regent not know the deal fell through or 2. Amer Sports not know it did go through, and then sold it again?

All I know is I'm glad I don't work in their accounting or legal departments right now.
  • 4 1
 RIP. Have had a lot of Mavic love over the years. Deemax, Crossmax, ksyrium and Cosmic will go down and some of my favorite wheels I’ve had over the years. Back in early 2000’s if you had crossmax on your xc bike you were pretty much a big deal. Although proprietary parts were a huge pain.
  • 1 0
 I still have a pair of Crossmax I on one of my bike, the front is fine, the rear needs some truing, but some nipples are running afoul. I need to find a way to repair it before they really go broke!
  • 2 0
 Such a shame as they used to be an innovative company pushing cycling but of late they have had a “we known best” attitude that meant they haven’t moved with the times no doubt meaning a loss of sales. Their wheels certainly didn’t slow Sam down so maybe they were right but unfortunately these days you have to follow the trends or you’ll get left behind !
  • 4 0
 The only ones liking this are retro hoarders... most sleep with spinergy under their beds but maybe now the 10 sets of deemax might gets some front builds.
  • 3 0
 A cool historical brand, but a shit company that made shit wheels in 2020. A short but substantial history of fucking shops over and being generally awful. Good riddance morons.
  • 3 1
 Honestly this does suck. They have been improving their products lately and I'm sure turning a ship that big is not easy. Their footwear has really improved as well as their clothing. Going back to j bend spokes on their DH wheels was a good start too. The people they have in North America are dedicated bike people and hopefully they'll all come through this. Too bad some kind of financial shenanigans have put the whole company at risk.
  • 2 0
 Who else remembers the SUP 121 ceramic? The sunset faded 217 rims were another standout back then. Their rims were so far ahead of the competition back then and have usually been great, but their hubs were hit and miss.

mombatbicycles.com/MOMBAT/BikeHistoryPages/Mavic.html

What a confusing mess, I read the article twice and still don't completely understand what happened with the ownership change.
  • 2 0
 I hope Mavic find a way to get out of that mess. I had the 2009 cross max 29er wheel set on my 2008 Trek Rig SS, and I never had any issues. Then a set of 2013 SLR 29er on my 2012 XTC Giant and still have them on my bike, and racing XC with them every year. GO MAVIC!
  • 3 0
 Not likely. They destroyed all hubs and rims late winter (in the US). It was a sad few days throwing it all in a dumpster.I left late March and there wasn't much left for parts.
  • 1 0
 that is terrible.
  • 2 0
 Have a set of 26" Mavic 819 DISK w Chris King hubs on my now daughters 2004 Santa Cruz Superlight. Those things are bomber; never trued them, rode em over everything MAB could throw at em. Many over the bar crashes, but the rims lasted. I got nuthin bad to say about that particular pair!
  • 2 1
 MAVIC costumer service wasn’t the best ,but most of the times it wasn’t their fault it was the dealers that didn’t care about the customer like some dealers bike brands ,you have to wait almost a month for minor problems ,I hope some one pick them up cause no matter what I love MAVIC wheels,yes their hubs used to have some problems (most of the times it was user fault not taking care of them ,I’m blame in that department),yes the rims and the spokes weren’t always available (dealers fault,some of them didn’t even know that there’s a drive side spoke and a non drive side one ,etc),but in the last 3 to 4 years they begin to catch up ,my last ones the Sam Hill deemax , 3 years warranty,extra spokes for front and rear both sides,a XD and a HG body ,spoke wrench,etc,only the lubricant and the bearing tool missing ,cause breaking spokes ,rims ,it happens to all wheels and the price isn’t cheap so ,I wish that the brand rises up again ,cause that LOOK ,and that UST rims(Not that stupid strip,to make rims tubeless ) are the best of the best for years ,good luck to all at MAVIC(a costumer since 2003)
  • 2 0
 Amer sports, including ENVE was sold to Anta sports, ENVE are owned by Chinese investors now.

cyclingtips.com/2020/05/mavic-is-in-receivership-but-who-owns-them-who-knows
  • 1 0
 It's a consortium lead by the Chinese Anta. There is at least one Canadian billionaire in the ownership group.
  • 1 0
 ok, enve wheels are now just chinese carbon.
  • 5 0
 Might as well throw my hat in too - I own Mavic, it’s all mine
  • 1 0
 That's sad, but like a lot of people said, Mavic stopped innovating years ago. They always seemed a few years behind. But still, I had a pair of Crossmax SLRs years ago that lasted four years, then I sold them to a junior racer who had them for like two more years. They were great wheels for the time.
  • 3 0
 Not surprised. They didn’t adapt. They knew their issues and no one rides mavic anymore and they didn’t adapt to the market. Hate it for the lower level employees
  • 3 0
 These guys weren't following trends, this is not shocking. Skinny rims for years while everyone was going wider, it made no sense.
  • 1 0
 Mentioned elsewhere above. That said, Mavic hasn't innovated or made any real updates in years. Add to that their service took months if you needed a proprietary part, it was ridiculously expensive and they had a smug attitude if you ever contacted them (as a consumer or shop). Just this thread alone points to that. They dug their own grave.
  • 5 0
 over 23 yrs on my 517's still running true
  • 1 0
 Doesn't surprise me. Something about the design of that generation of rims. Even the skinny ones held up to mountain abuse.
  • 1 0
 Just sold an old set of 729's on hope pro 2's for £150 should of held onto them rarity bonus Razz

But that really sucks! Legendary wheels. Loved my ITS-4 Hubs too. Guess making everything propriety caught up though. Special tools and spokes for everything
  • 1 0
 I can see this... I haven't owned a Mavic wheel in over 15 years and companies aren't spec'ing their wheels like they used to. The cheap Aksium fitted on entry road bikes was probably the only thing keeping them afloat these last several years. Mavic went from the pinnacle of everyone lusting after in the Y2K era to a fidgety business model that never evolved from proprietary service tools and totally integrated wheel systems. Instead of fixing this they entered the highly competitive shoe and apparel market, and continued big dollar race sponsorship.
  • 1 0
 I was working for them in February and this is the first I have heard that they were no longer a part of Regent. I'm glad I left and I'm proud of the manner in which I did. Sorry for anyone that has called in needing warranty assistance.
  • 1 0
 Had a pair of their enduro UST type rims that I bought in 2014. Ran em hard for 4 years. No issues. Could fit any tire I wanted on them tubeless. Anything. Never understood what all the fuss was about with the difficulty of running tubeless. All I had to do was put the tires on, put the sealant in and pump em up. No tape, no seating issues at all. Now that I’m in the tape world... I get it. Can’t understand why no one makes true tubeless rims aside from Mavic. I used J bend spokes on em they had a proprietary nipple holder thing but that was no big deal. In fact they were the first set of rims I ever laced up. Still have a pair of their waterproof cycling boots. Used em on many a wet winter ride. Sad to see this happen to them. I would’ve bought another set of those rims but they stopped selling them so I’ve gone with Spank which are excellent btw. But a set of EN rims laced to Hope hubs was a damn good wheel set. RIP Mavic.
  • 4 1
 that's a spoke in the eye for the staff but as they say; what goes around comes around
  • 6 1
 Meanwhile in France...
  • 2 5
 I give up.......
  • 2 0
 After killing several DT Swiss rims on my DH bike, I picked up some EX729's. These things are indestructible. Hate to see a quality company go under.
  • 1 0
 yeh those EX729 are bullet proof. Even the EX's I had from 2010 were insanely good
  • 1 0
 With weight close to 50% above other good rims out there they damn well better last forever.
  • 2 0
 Yet again. A PE group doesn’t like the numbers, won’t inject cash and just says F it. I hope other private brands looking to sell take note.
  • 4 0
 Wait. They can't find a whole company, kind of?
  • 2 5
 Welcome to the wonderful world of American capitalism.
  • 8 0
 @PAmtbiker: Wait, a French company that was run into the ground. Bought by a Finnish megacorp and run more into the ground until they were worth pretty much nothing. Spun off of the group that was sold to a Chinese megacorp because they were nearly valueless. And, as we know nothing about this Msports we don't know if they're American or not.
Mercedes Benz of North America is incorporated in Delaware too, and last time I checked, Daimler-Benz was not American. So yeah, lets blame American capitalism.
  • 2 0
 @nonk: There are a lot of public school kids who have never heard the word "economics" spoken in a classroom. But that won't stop them from running their mouths.
  • 2 0
 I can't decide if this is good news or bad news. Great company and product IMHO. I'd like to think that the receivership will get them sorted out and back on their feet.
  • 2 0
 im running my 26" SX's two sets and they still run true and have the Mavic sound. They served me well with no problems for over a decade one set is 16 years old. Sad.
  • 3 0
 Man, it's too bad for both Mavic and Salomon - two companies that make quality products!
  • 1 0
 Well Amer Sports did nothing with it, no real development which is surprising when they constantly develop one of their other brands, ENVE Composites, even if it does have its detractors.
  • 1 0
 Mavic is just a name now, they haven't made anything relevant since Deemax. A their stuff seemed pretty proprietary too. Sorry Mavic but people want interchangeability, not Mavic 4 Life.
  • 3 0
 It sounds like they are going round in circles!
  • 3 0
 Sounds like the courts are going to "Spank" someone
  • 2 0
 I was about to enquire about the new Mavic 828 rims.... had such great luck my 823s.... oh well.
  • 2 0
 But...but...Sam Hill. I wonder if he’ll start riding Zipps like all the other SRAM riders.
  • 3 0
 I guess this is the new Friday Fails format.
  • 2 0
 I think the fact that they have a "Social and Economic Committee" describes the real problem
  • 1 0
 Mavic used to be the best, everyone rode Mavic, and then they stagnated and haven't released anything new in years. Sad to see them deteriorate.
  • 3 0
 Terrible proprietary tech, was 15 years behind with wheel width.
  • 2 0
 Two things that stick out to me. Founded in 1889 and bought in 2020 by a PE firm (maybe). An ignominious almost certain end.
  • 2 0
 If they liquidate maybe I’ll finally be able to build up all those deemax hubs I have sitting in a drawer.
  • 2 1
 Having owed crossmax enduro wheels set I say good riddance. Designed to fail and cost a fortune to fix. Scam artists in the end.
  • 1 0
 Is this another example of a biking company being sold by owners to a big company who then f*ck it up?

Looking at you Sombrio, etc
  • 2 0
 How will this affect Enve?
  • 1 0
 Separate companies with separate owners now (probably).
  • 16 7
 Don't worry, Envy will still sell crazilly over priced wheels with performance gains almost a marginal as CeramicSpeed.
  • 2 0
 Enve is still with Amer sports. Only Mavic was sold.
  • 2 0
 My Mavic rain jacket is killer. Hope they can recover.
  • 4 3
 If Mavic disappears entirely I won't shed a single tear. They should just give up on making anything except clothes.
  • 1 0
 I still want to try some 729s. If only there was a site that sold used bike parts...
  • 3 0
 I used to run them front and back in the old 26" days, utterly indestructible, weighed as much as medium sized anvil though....
  • 1 0
 From one article to another, Nicolai's business model (or lack thereof ?) seems more sound.
  • 2 0
 If only I had money. What a wonderful equipment it is.
  • 1 0
 Mavic single track gloves were the best thing ever... Still use mine every ride
  • 1 0
 Being in bike business, probably in many businesses too, is more challenging than winning a World Cup race.
  • 1 0
 An invisible company from Delaware... www.google.de/search?q=delaware+tax+haven
  • 2 0
 Goose will be devastated.
  • 1 0
 I really hope they stay with Salomon as combined they make brilliant MTB shoes.
  • 1 0
 I have mavic crossmax sl wheels that I got in 2007. greatest wheels l have ever rode on and I am still riding on them !
  • 8 7
 I don’t ENVE what’s going on here
  • 1 0
 What happens to Sam Hill's sponsorship then?!
  • 1 0
 Such a shame, I loved my old EX823's, strongest rims I ever ran.
  • 1 0
 That picture. Mavic wheels future is on the fence. Where is the caption?
  • 1 0
 Made in Taiwan...like everything else...
  • 1 0
 Would the US buy them and start having China produce them?
  • 1 0
 Anybody could buy them and do that, would make them much more competitive if the could produce something good. But China isn't known for making great hubs.
  • 1 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: ur right, I hope they keep it in-house and improve the hubs better then ever.
  • 1 0
 Sooo, whom owns Enve now?
  • 1 0
 Mavic never owned Enve. Mavic and Enve were both owned by Amer Sports. Mavic was sold off and they have kept Enve.
  • 3 2
 My favorite wheel brand
  • 2 1
 RIP to a real one
  • 1 0
 Pour-out and candles fasho. Double OG
  • 2 0
 Oh damn you're from McCloud best view of Shasta.
  • 2 0
 @endlessblockades: Oops, I'm not anymore. Out of date profile info. BTW the trails on Shasta were excellent last year.
  • 1 1
 RIP Mavic
  • 1 3
 I wouldn’t miss Mavic.
  • 2 0
 Then you haven't lived yung j - except for the 40 years old thing.
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