Video: Andreas Kolb Narrowly Avoids Hitting a Car on the Les Gets World Cup Course

Jul 2, 2021 at 0:37
by James Smurthwaite  

Andres Kolb has shared footage of himself nearly hitting a car on the Les Gets World Cup course.

Kolb was on a timed training run in the lower section of the track when a marshal allowed a car to cross the track (Update: or the driver ignored the marshal’s instructions - thanks to the French speakers in the comments). Kolb was picking up speed on the open section heading into the new motorway but was thankfully able to haul on the Trickstuff anchors on his Continental Atherton team bike and stop in time.

Andi was understandably annoyed at the near miss and gave the marshal a few choice words before continuing the rest of his run. MTBnews.de posted the moment as part of their course preview and it’s safe to say Kolb was flying up until then. Keep an eye on him to do well in qualies and racing this week, hopefully with fewer near misses!


248 Comments

  • 544 22
 Amazed the Alfa was even running, impressive.
  • 45 85
flag t-stoff (Jul 2, 2021 at 0:54) (Below Threshold)
 the 80s called they want the joke back
  • 28 21
 @gee-milner Bah, my Alfa 156 never broke down once, while the Golf that followed lost its clutch on a mountain pass. Go figure.
  • 32 7
 not everyone got a Ferrari
  • 61 65
flag humoroususername (Jul 2, 2021 at 1:45) (Below Threshold)
 The fact that this post has so many up votes saddens me. Alfa finish ahead of BMW, VW, Audi and Mercedes in basically every reliability survey yet this idiotic view still persists. The Giulietta in particular is an incredibly reliable little car. There is basically nothing that goes wrong on them. Oh well, let the boring people have their boring cars.

www.whatcar.com/alfa-romeo/giulietta/hatchback/used-review/n913/advice
  • 5 5
 brilliant!!!!
  • 4 7
 brilliant to gee milners post about the alfa , but thats pretty unbelievable were the hell was the marshal
  • 3 0
 *WOOOOOSHHHHH*
  • 18 28
flag cunning-linguist (Jul 2, 2021 at 2:19) (Below Threshold)
 @mattwragg: yeah, VW’s, Audis and all the VAG group stuff make me sick in my mouth. They’re gash, boring, badly engineered products m, designed for people who pretend to like cars. All turd. They’re all wrong wheel drive too.
  • 5 1
 @humoroususername: That may be the case now, but Alfa sullied their rep forever with cars like my rust bucket Alfasud. I have fond memories of rebuilding the engine, awful inboard disk brakes, nonexistent hand brake and a body that tried to turn into rust dust as quickly as possible. It did have great handling on and off road though.
  • 4 5
 @headshot: they were all rustbuckets, and poor engineering back then, just try to buy a used car/classic from that time... they all suffered from the same problems. Anyway I think it's pretty standard knowledge this days, anyone who is into classic cars, or cars in general knows that. It's hilarious that top brands bolted wings to their rally cars without knowing the precise effect of it.
Of course some chauvinism against a country or a car could make one worse but in all fairness we had some pretty rough times in terms of reliability and manufacturing quality during decades.
  • 3 1
 @t-stoff: I had an ancient 520i after that. Its true, its door bottoms did rust but that was it. The engineering and durability of the vehicle was streets ahead of any Alfasud, which is universally accepted as being a dog, even for then.
  • 7 0
 I once had a brand new Mito for 10 days rental, warning lights on the emissions systems after 5, on return to the rental agency it happened to cut out, the final meters to the returns bay were done on the starter motor. Lots of fun but I would not buy one.
  • 6 0
 yeap exactly right, and with no anti corrosion standard back then almost no car survived, and in other brands it wasn't the best either... well maybe apart from the W123 Mercedes! ;D
  • 19 3
 @humoroususername: Hmmmm....don't be so sure:
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a23145269/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-reliability-update

"we can't in good conscience recommend that anyone buy one."
  • 1 0
 lololol
  • 5 7
 @Will762: I don't really think it's fair to judge a brand by the reliability of its one ultra high performance vehicle which is essentially a 4 door Ferrari. I think for every 1 Giulia QV alfa sell, they sell 100 of their other models. Plus, those issues seem to have been limited to 2017 and 2018 cars and we're almost all battery related/water ingress to the Ecu related. I haven't read anything about drive train, bodywork or suspension issues. There aren't fundamental problems with the cars and they ironed out the electrics problems by 2019 models. Pretty standard for a brand new platform.

The Alfasuds were amazing cars to drive but yeah, the rust was shocking even for the era. Still, they were miles ahead of any other small fwd car to drive. VW had to introduce the GTI to get the better of them.
  • 4 3
 @Will762: it would be like judging Mazda on the reliability of the RX8 or Nissan on the GTR. These are very low volume cars.
  • 4 0
 I suspect in a time when nobody could leave their house all cars were more reliable, 2020/21 will be seen as a vintage years for motoring.
  • 12 5
 @gee-milner
For someone who is a car guy, thats a pretty clueless comment Rolleyes
I owned a 159ti for 4 years. No issues because I kept on top of the tlc and service intervals.
The only people I know that have issues with Alfas is because they treat them like shit.
  • 4 5
 @cunning-linguist: badly engineered? sorry im laughing.
  • 3 1
 @humoroususername: Sure, but no self-respecting man would drive that car....
  • 15 4
 @humoroususername: didn't realise I'd come to a car forum. Thought this was about mountain biking?
  • 6 0
 @jameszam: he hit a sensitive spot
  • 36 2
 Americans might be a bunch of dumb rednecks but arguing the merits of the Cummins over the Powerstroke or the Duramax is way cooler than talking about the unreliability of hatchback with a 1.4l engine and being willing to die to defend its superiority over the VW Golf.
  • 2 0
 @mattwragg: don’t ride the clutch
  • 4 1
 @wibblywobbly: I agree. Even good downsized engines aren't going to have a long life like a huge capacity diesel. Emissions regulations in the EU are nuts.
  • 3 2
 @cunning-linguist: Don't be mad just because you can't afford an Audi...
  • 6 7
 @cunning-linguist: you didn't even mention what was badly engineered, just a blanket comment on the entire history of VAG cars. Instantly discredited yourself. Where else can you find a turbo 4cyl that will take stage 2+ bolt ons with stock internals? You're just talking out your ass and it's clear. You're the one who is pretending to know cars. Go cry in your T6 transporter lol

I'm sure "real" car guys hate the fact that the oil filter is accessible from the top of the engine. But I guess you wouldn't know that if you've never changed oil on one.
  • 1 1
 @cunning-linguist: My 1.9 TDI ALH is not any of those things. Solid car, solid engine.
  • 3 0
 @mattwragg: My GTI was a NIGHTMARE after about 50,000 miles.
  • 1 0
 Yea, it stalled right in middle of the course though!
  • 2 0
 @DirtbagMatt: Pffft....my S4 was allergic to oil by that point...
  • 2 0
 @krashDH85: if it’s a mk4 golf you speaking, actually is a fiat designed engine
  • 3 5
 @humoroususername: in the US, where that car was reviewed, we have only the Giulia and the Stelvio. both are horrifically unreliable, and because of that, I suspect that Alfa won't be bringing additional models to the US and they probably will exit the US market yet again.
  • 4 0
 That asswhipe marshall looking at his phone needs to be fired at the very least.
  • 1 0
 as long as it's not a Delta , ahaha
  • 1 0
 @humoroususername: Yes, because being more reliable than any of those brands is saying anything lmao.
  • 1 0
 @cunning-linguist: lol pretty much. Some of them are wrong + right wheel drive though.. but that's pretty boring below 600hp
  • 1 1
 @t-stoff: @t-stoff: The 90s called, they want their "decade called" joke back.
  • 141 1
 I marshalled at a local club road race many years ago. There was a rolling road closure, so traffic is stopped before junctions so riders can ride through safely. Here in the UK you go on a training course with BC to learn how to do that, but you have no legal powers to actually stop traffic.

So there's me in my high vis, stopping traffic before a blind turn at a junction. I've got six cars queued up, they look a bit annoyed, but they're behaving. I've walked the line explaining why they're being held and there are signs everywhere. This is the third lap, so I've done this a couple of times already.

On the race radio I hear that the peloton is together and approaching my junction. At that moment, one of the cars in the queue decides 2 minutes is already far too long to wait. He pulls out, passes everyone, I step out to stop him, he aint stopping and goes round me. My blood runs cold as I see him driving towards the blind junction the peloton is approaching.

I get on the radio, but there's already a lot of talk going about the peloton, and in reality although it feels like an eternity the car takes probably 10 second to get from me to the junction. At which point 50 roadies round the corner and six or so of them go over the bonnet or into his bumper. Some of the riders who miss ride past me and call me all the names under the sun.

Just writing this actually makes me tear up. I probably could have stopped that car if I'd been quicker or just thrown myself across the road. Truthfully, once I had them stopped I thought they'd stay stopped.

Two morals to this long winded story:
1) It's not easy being a marshal, lots of boredom, followed by needing to be really fast in response. Be nice to marshals.
2) There's always one a******e driver. You need solid barriers to stop them.
  • 55 0
 Bloody hell I'm getting angry just reading that. I used to work on motorways and I've had people drive through cones/around barriers, through the middle of a massive planing/resurfacing operation, ignoring all the workers on foot, huge machines & wagons, and the fact that there wasn't even any tarmac to drive on any more. Then smash their car up and over a 150mm high concrete channel to get out rather than face the embarrassment of driving back out the way they came. Never underestimate the stupidity of a mildly inconvenienced driver.
  • 12 0
 @johnnyboy11000: I did too and you're absolutely spot on, some people go batsh*t crazy once their behind the wheel. It's like they turn their (lack of) progress up the road into a metaphor for their entire life.

Mind you, my Mum did drive into the roadworks once, she had me and my brother screaming in the back and then just got utterly confused by all the cones! The policeman who then pulled us over was not overly amused...
  • 9 0
 I once had a similar situation. I was a cycling marshall wich means i stopped traffic to let my team pass, then cycled past my team to do that all over again. At one junction i saw a car come that sped up as soon i got my sign out to let him stop. I just had time to jump in the ditch while shouting at my team to stop. On the other side of the road there was another team riding. The car crossed over to the wrong side of the road trying to hit them all. About 30 cyclists jumped in the ditch while i saw 2 guys flying over the car with their bikes still between their legs. Some people are just dicks that hate cyclists. Sadly we did not get his number plate because he tried to kill about 60 people in total. Lucky he only hit 2 people that only had bruises on their legs.
  • 4 0
 This is why roads must stay closed off at all times, period. If strictly not possible, fences/barriers are needed. Block the road, then a marshall opens the fence and lets the car go by once he has got the all clear. Track crew/organisers/UCI/local authorities screwed up here in Les Gets.
I for myself had a huge scare at a Trike race when I was in a car and they LET us go by while there were still people riding down the road. They were going slow and we spotted them from afar so we stopped on the side of the road and let them ride by, thankfully. That was not fun.
  • 3 14
flag JustAnotherRiderHere (Jul 2, 2021 at 10:07) (Below Threshold)
 Fact is, in the US...if you do not have a badge, a gun and red and blue lights...you are a target in the roads. Currently, in the US, even then you are not safe.
  • 3 1
 should have let all the bikers yank the wanker out of the car and beat his ass silly! That will learn them a valuable lesson.
  • 17 0
 In my humble opinion driver's license tests ought to be much more difficult to pass. That might help keep all the dummies off the road.
  • 1 0
 Well written, I can only imagine the dread of waiting for it to happen. I imagine everything went into slow motion.
  • 16 0
 @johnnyboy11000: it is ridiculous how a thin sheet of glass dehumanizes people, leading to them making decisions they would NEVER making in person. The same guy who might jump into a freezing river to save a stranger will run them over if they might make him 30 seconds slower in his car. The internet does the same thing x1000
  • 1 0
 Sorry you had to go through that. I hope the driver was charged or at least ticketed for disobeying your traffic instruction.
  • 6 0
 This seems to be a case of a lazy marshal + not having a 2 marshals for both lanes of traffic. You can see the car rolling slowly down the street well in advance and the Marshal just stands there, the car wasnt being aggressive or speedy. In this situation how is the driver supposed to know WHERE to stop if not right in front of him? It doesnt look like the marshal even takes his hands out of his pockets until the car crosses the intersection.

The driver did in fact stop where the Marshal was standing since that was the only logical thing to do there, but because the marshal couldnt be bothered to move or even put up an arm the car stopped right in the middle of the track. I think the rider was right to be pissed at the marshal for doing such a half ass job.
  • 1 0
 They could solve this by creating an S-shaped containment on the road.
  • 3 0
 There's a saying in the policing world: If you want to explore the depths of human stupidity try directing traffic.

You seriously have no idea how completely, painfully, utterly, desperately stupid people can be when they get behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
- Putting cones out? Make sure there isn't enough space for someone to sneak between them because they will assume that space was meant for them.
- Blocking a turning lane so people can't make a turn into the scene of a collision? Better put someone there because people will just blindly turn using the non-turning lane, even if the road they're turning onto is obviously blocked by fire, ambulance, and police vehicles.
- Trying to block the road with a couple of emergency vehicles? Better bet people will squeeze between them to drive right through whatever you're trying to protect.
- Redirecting traffic on grid roads where the detour is the simplest thing possible? People will not understand how to go around.

It's scary.
  • 1 0
 @Surestick: yup, seen alot of that at car accidents when I was doing EMT school, and driving back and forth from a ski area I worked at.
  • 1 0
 @plyawn: I dunno. I feel like saying the glass dehumanizes them removes them from some accountability, and gives them more credit than they deserve.

Some people are just plan old pieces of shit. More people that we would otherwise hope.
  • 84 0
 Should just make it a road gap.
  • 52 0
 Safety Road Gap
  • 8 1
 @L0rdTom: *nods in deep agreement*
  • 5 0
 @L0rdTom: Safety Gap, indeed.
  • 1 0
 Indeed Sir!~
  • 85 5
 Typical french driver.
  • 76 6
 And typical French marshal
  • 7 0
 @mcharza: "je lui ai dit"...
  • 3 0
 Oh...La France...
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flag usmbc-co-uk (Jul 2, 2021 at 1:07) (Below Threshold)
 I enjoyed how the marshal sought to blame Andreas also
  • 53 0
 @usmbc-co-uk: He blamed the driver "this one's dumb", and told the rider "I told him[to stop]"
  • 37 3
 @faul: ahh, sorry for my ignorance,
  • 10 10
 The locals are good drivers, but the Parisians are trash in the mountain. When I see someone braking in a corner, i downshift and i am waiting for a good straight line.

In Morzine i saw many British drunk drivers on the wrong side of the road too. So basically it is like passing ppl on the left lane.

For the training / race they should have more staff and at least two people with stop sign.

I know Les Gets is a small city etc. North America has even worse drivers, every day in Vancouver car drivers are using the bike lane and sidewalks. The same situation happened to me when a Honda Civic decided to be a bike, glad i was on my DH in downtown.


Au passage t'as raison l' Alfa c'est un Monchu, mais en Savoie c'est pas la France on est pas en PLS quand y a un virage et quand il y a de la neige.
  • 17 0
 @Ba1rog: bold of you to assume Parisians only drive like trash in the mountains...
Having spent a good deal of time in Paris, I can assure traffic is.... Interesting
  • 10 0
 @Arierep: Come try Rome and Naples.
Then, when you are fully warmed up, Ischia in mid-August, and earn your master's degree in road madness.
  • 5 0
 @Tasso75: also tried Italian traffic extensively (not Napoli tho) and I think it's a different type of "interesting".
But if you want to go all the way in, those are all boring compared to Africa, such as Nouakchott
  • 9 0
 @Ba1rog: you say drunk British drivers, but what makes you say they are drunk? In my experience, 1 in 5 brits drive like that on their way to work!
  • 9 0
 He took the French line.
  • 19 0
 I think it was that TdF woman trying to escape!
  • 7 3
 Go to Montreal or Quebec city... Europe ain't got shit on our crazy French drivers. You have to be a Olympic sprinter to cross the street there.
  • 9 0
 Spectators at French events are having a bad week
  • 1 1
 @OlSkoolJake: not even close man
  • 4 0
 @Eland: so, 1 in 5 Britts are drunk on their way to work?
  • 2 0
 @faul: Typical french comment.
  • 1 0
 They need two marshals.
  • 3 0
 @Arierep: one rule: NEVER hesitate. Never.
  • 6 0
 @Tasso75: From my experience on vacation in your beautiful country, the further south you go in Italy, the more lawless the driving gets. By the time you get to Sicily it's every man for himself. Anything goes. It's actually kinda fun once you wrap your head around it. A decade later, my wife and I still call doing anything sketchy in our car "An Italian move"
  • 1 0
 Parasian drivers are just fun. Marseille drivers are banger car racers. Went to visit my brother there and wondered we he had a beat up dented to crap car. Jesus christ! Everyone just rams each other to get in lanes etc. 4wd’s go up curbs. I mean actually physically ramming each other. Traffic there was crazy. Never had an issue with French drivers otherwise.
  • 4 0
 @Clownshoe: talking about beautiful countries... for our honeymoon in 2010 we went on a road trip through Québec and Ontario (well, part of). I remember driving there was peaceful and relaxing, except maybe for downtown Toronto. Alas I wasn't into mountain biking yet haha.
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: agreed. Getting a driver to get us around Addis Ababa was money well spent. Absolute insanity on the roads there.
  • 1 1
 @Arierep: Parisians have a reputation, we even have a competition about the worse driver on the road. Like chains on the highways or removing the entire wheel to put the chain on etc.

The guy was apparently drunk too and since the incident, they put 2 barriers. The gendarmerie was 5 meters away too.
  • 3 0
 @Tasso75: We complain about our local bad drivers here in Canada, but anyone who compares canadian drivers to Euro or anywhere else with regards to lawlessness probably hasn't traveled or experienced said bad driving.

Having said that, the Euro driving I experienced seemed more like driving "on the edge" rather than straight-up bad driving, like seeing how close to the limits of ability they could get before killing everyone, which may actually be a sign of skill rather than inability.

In the grand scheme of things Canadian drivers as a whole really aren't that bad (outside of the major urban centres).
  • 1 0
 @jaycubzz: Yeah Canada is not bad compared to the US, but depends where you are. Vancouver and Richmond are a living meme. I have been rear-ended 3 times in 6 years in Canada. Never have a claim in Europe in almost 10 years. People who stay on the left lane on the highway at 60 kph or ppl who take the roundabout on the wrong side piss me off.

That is why I have a dashcam, last week I saw a mattress on the Sea to Sky highway, so glad I was not speeding.
  • 1 0
 @Tasso75: then you can do post graduate work trying to ride/survive in Croatia.
  • 1 0
 @OlSkoolJake: it IS bad enough that they can't let them turn right on red lights, otherwise no pedestrian would be safe
  • 1 0
 @Ba1rog: I have a theory that driving on calm, relaxed areas makes us complacent and more prone to distractions and thus to fender benders and such.
On the other hand, driving in Paris or Rome (won't apply to Africa, as nobody there cares about bumping into eachother) keeps you on your toes at all times and you're always ready for surprises
  • 1 0
 @Ba1rog: Man where I come from Vancouver is a dream, do not drive a bike in Belgrade center you will get killed. Ambulance will drive over you later, then cops will come and shoot at your corpse.
  • 96 22
 Thank god he didnt have codes
  • 20 0
 I'm impressed how he managed to stop at this speed on the grass.
  • 62 0
 It's a concealed Trickstuff commercial.
  • 4 0
 @Garpen: deffo! You get it bro
  • 40 0
 Its kinda amazing that a car can just drive over the track like that. Where was the traffic barrier or cones to prevent that happening? The more I see of world cups, its medical provision, evacuation procedures etc the more it just makes me think that the UCI is baking in risk into the model and serious injuries and death become more probable over time.
  • 6 2
 Exactly. Why was the road even open to the public?
  • 25 0
 @johnnyboy11000: At other races I've been to, road crossings are taped off but looseley enough that the marshal can lift or drop the tape to let cars pass when it's safe. Seems like that would be a better solution than having one guy try to police both sides of the road here
  • 19 1
 @johnnyboy11000: Because there are houses all over that side of the hill. People live there and they're going to need to get in and out of their houses via the roads
  • 4 0
 @johnnyboy11000: Im pretty sure that's the main access road to the top of the first lift station, its also got a load of houses further up. we got lost a few years ago following part of the old WC track and came out on it further up.
  • 12 0
 Well that's a bit mental, having a world cup race course which traverses an open public road is risky enough but then having no barriers and one dozy guy to keep an eye on things is just an accident waiting to happen
  • 5 0
 @johnnyboy11000: I wonder if this will happen in the final. People need to get home.

Road gap is the clear answer.
  • 10 0
 @johnnyboy11000: Exactly. If that happened here in NZ there would be some serious questions being asked of the organizer. Nobody would be held to account and nothing would change, but serious questions.....
  • 2 0
 @ChasingPhotons: serious questions change the world over a seriously long time
  • 1 0
 Here in Vancouver, the big events like marathons, parades, and ceremonies like Remembrance Day get sworn Special Constables directing traffic and working all the points. Drivers are much more likely to follow directions from someone with a uniform, and powers of arrest, than they would with a volunteer or flag person. It also helps that the traffic plan is put together by considerable teamwork between the police department, the city, and the event organizers, and includes all their combined resources.

Barricades are also important. Lines of tall traffic cones at the least. Sawhorses are better, and can still easily be picked up and moved easily and quickly. And if the crowd is big enough, thanks to lone wolf terrorists deciding that driving rental trucks through crowds was the thing to do, some events will even have city operated garbage trucks parked across the roadway (driver stays with the vehicle, and moves in and out of the way as needed).

By comparison, the measures on display in this video seem a bit weak and half-hearted. Someone is going to get hurt, and nearly did.
  • 19 0
 On a local enduro race some years ago, traffic agents *forgot* to close a road crossing along the track.
A friend of mine slammed at Mach chicken into an oncoming car, and flew away like Superman in the woods.
Luckily he was unscathed, the bike was cracked in half, the impact bent the tie-rods so badly that a tow truck was needed to remove the car.
  • 19 0
 I think your friend may actually be Superman!
  • 7 0
 @Boldfish: Maybe, but in the following days he was all bruised and shaken AF.
This is no joke, Kolb was lucky in that he was coming from a long, open section, so the crossing was in plain sight.
  • 18 0
 What brakes is this guy running? Whoever it is their marketing department need to jump on this!

Could have ended really badly. Just close the road - why bother with the risk.
  • 15 0
 Trickstuff
  • 2 2
 I suppose most riders already know Trickstuff makes the most powerful brakes. They don't need anyone to point that out anymore. It is like the Ferrari marketing dept telling people that their cars are fast (outside F1 racing). Just like not everyone demands the Ferrari speed, can't or just want to pay the money, just like that not everyone can or wants to pay (or wait for) these Trickstuff brakes, appreciates the additional brakeforce (per handforce) or simply wants DOT in their brakes just because.
  • 1 4
 @vinay: If trickstuff was superior every rider would be riding them. Braking is a skill, too.
  • 4 0
 @bobjohns: Trickstuff is superior. The reason not everyone is running them is because there is a year long waiting list and they are really expensive.

But they are definitely the best.
  • 1 2
 @hmstuna: So you’re saying every World Cup rider is putting themselves at a disadvantage if they’re not running trickstuff? Even though they don’t even pay for their bikes?

If something is faster the whole field will run it. I/e 29” front wheels.
  • 1 0
 @bobjohns: That isn't true at all. Pros have sponsorships, that means they don't get a choice in what brakes they run. For your 29er example many pros didn't run it until their bike sponsor released a 29 or mullet downhill bike. Then they switched as soon as they could. Because it is faster.

And yes I am saying that everyone is at a disadvantage. It is very slight so I wouldn't expect it to drastically alter results, but it is there.
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 @hmstuna: Racers at this level spend more time than we can comprehend to find any edge. They go to the extents to run different thicknesses spokes on different style tracks because of the minimal advantage they get. And how many times have we seen riders racing blacked out maxxis tires because they’re sponsored by another brand?
  • 2 0
 @bobjohns: Pros aren't paid to win races, that's why they are willing to take the performance hit.

Pros are paid to win races on the sponsors components. Within those components they will go to great lengths to get marginal gains, but they have to stay within the brand usually. Some exceptions are made for tires or more commonly for component styles that the brand doesn't make.

Numerous examples can be found of pros riding things that aren't perfect for them because that is what they are paid to run. Look at all the Sram xc pros running axs droppers when there are several droppers on the market that function just as well and weigh significantly less. Shimano doesn't make high end 220 rotors yet. My guess is they will be released with the new Saint and I bet we see multiple riders switch as soon as they can. Even though there are plenty of 220s on the market currently.
  • 1 0
 @hmstuna: Just so you know I’m not arguing. I like talking bikes and I know context can be taken any which way.

But I don’t believe a top rider would knowingly put themselves at a disadvantage. They train too hard not be true competitor. If there’s something they’re unhappy with they develop prototypes with engineers until they’re happy that the component works best for them.

If a rider such as Loris or Loic lost by .23 seconds and believed such an important component like the brakes we’re holding them back, they wouldn’t be running them.
  • 1 0
 @bobjohns: I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Winning races doesn't pay the bills, sponsors do. I can think of lots of examples of people running suboptimal setups because that is what they are paid to ride. Big brands are naturally going to dominate the stage. Not necessarily because they are better but because they have enough cash to buy the top people.
  • 1 0
 @hmstuna: Not sure how long everyone has been watching the sport, but those who've been watching it near the end of the first decade this century will probably have noticed. Back in the days riders were on all kinds of different brakes. Formula, Hope, Magura and of course Shimano and Avid (currently SRAM branded) too. Then SRAM became a big consortium with all components available so that they could offer cheaper OEM deals. Avid, RockShox, Truvativ... Sachs had already been turned into SRAM and I think Zipp came later. The brand names with less appeal gradually got replaced by SRAM (powered by ...) but for instance RockShox remained a name that was too strong to replace. Either way, sponsorship is marketing so athletes went all SRAM or all Shimano/Fox. Everything else slowly phased out on the DH circuit. Would you really think Greg Minnaar preferred the Avid/SRAM brakes over his Formula signature brakes? And Steve Peat to prefer Avid/SRAM over Hope? It is only the last couple of years that we're seeing a more varied number of brands again. So if you want to know who makes the coolest stuff, look at the teams that operate outside the big OEM brands. So Polygon for instance. And of course the Athertons, they've always been good at getting things the way they want (never dropping Rachel in the early days even though some brands only wanted Gee).
  • 1 0
 @bobjohns: I like your idealism but big brand sponsors aren't going to let you pick and choose. If you have a sponsor from SRAM, for example, that provides whole bike component kits they aren't going to be happy if you ditch their brakes for another brand because it makes them look bad. The big race teams will never be as dynamic as teams like Atherton because they have to keep the OEM manufacturers happy for their production side. Remember that the bike companies just want to sell bikes. That's it.
  • 12 3
 That Marshal is sleeping! We all know that many races are based on volunteering but it is inconceivable that at a dangerous point such as a road crossing there should be no awake and professional staff.
  • 10 1
 That car driver is sleeping! Look at his dumb face only...

You see him rolling from 3:25 already, he's not hesitating at all, even ignoring the bump.
  • 7 0
 This is crazy! He could have easily been killed, fortunately, everyone rode away. In 2018 I was struck by a 1-ton work truck by a staff member at Revelstoke Mountain Resort while pre-riding the Canadian Enduro Course. The kid driving the truck admitted he had just finished a few beers with his boss, forgot about the race and had been looking at his phone changing songs. This accident was witnessed by several riders including an off-duty RCMP officer. To this day and likely forever I have nerve damage limiting the feeling and use of my hands, my leg was crushed along with my brand-new Intense Trace Elite. The icing on this cake comes from the hills insurance company (ICBC) and the province of British Columbia practicing Zero Fault refusing to even replace my bike. I guess we can never be too careful, cars always win over riders.
  • 9 0
 That is so bad. Could of ended up so badly. Something has got to change there.
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flag makkelijk (Jul 2, 2021 at 1:50) (Below Threshold)
 "Something" being the government, the language, the people.
  • 6 0
 Looks to me like the marshall was trying to stop the car - he had his hand up and wasn't waving the car across. I don't think the driver understood. Not to say that the marshall is completely innocent though, he should have been a lot more assertive. Drivers tend to just stop when they don't know what's going on.

I've sen similar before when marshalling a junior road race on a closed circuit, also in France. Some nobber drove right onto the course and then stopped just after a blind bend to get shirty with the marshall who was yelling at him to move. I was a bit further on and fortunately had a whistle. I blew it hard enough to make the driver think I was police, gestured him to move then made him pull over and stop about 20 seconds before a solid pack of 30 junior boys came blasting round the corner.

Just listened to the audio - the marshall blames the driver, not Andreas - "il est con celui là"
  • 5 0
 Something like this should NEVER happen! Could have caused a serious injury, or worse! Mostly the fault of the impatient driver, however race organizers need to learn from this and implement safeguards (maybe a barrier?!). Riders don't want to be worrying about crashing into a rouge car while trying to carry speed into the next section.
  • 14 8
 Just trying to see if the car is a Mullet set up.
  • 4 0
 Clearly a high pivot prototype not available to the public.
  • 4 0
 @OriginalDonk: Agreed. I suspected it was some sort of prototype
  • 3 1
 JFC dude. get a life and stop whining about mullets on every single pinkbike article.
  • 3 10
flag MattP76 (Jul 2, 2021 at 7:12) (Below Threshold)
 @shralping-the-cube: I have a great life thank you. I am fit, active, have a great job, great home, great wife and family/friends. I really am lucky.

However, I don't do what you tell me to do. I will continue my quest to rid the mountain bike world of stupid fads like Mullets. Whether you like it or not.
  • 3 0
 @MattP76: please. you aren't doing shit about it except for constantly whining.
  • 2 0
 @MattP76: do tell us what you're actually doing about it except constantly whining on every single post on pinkbike, including ones that have nothing to do with mullet bikes.
  • 2 0
 I think the driver's intention was to slow down and stop right in front the "Marshal"... this is what we usually do in France.
In my opinion they just failed to secure properly this section. There is only a yellow lane on the road that does'not mean anything. A wide STOP sign should be setup before the crossroad..
  • 2 0
 If the UCI is happy to let traffic cross an active DH track then they need to adequately protect the track and its riders. The organiser of the race has a duty of care after all, and the governing body should require a specific level of protection for this type of crossing. This clip has demonstrated that a lone marshal is ineffective at traffic management, however if either side of the crossing is protected with a tyre shredding mechanism which can be raised and lowered, then all parties could demonstrate the liabilities have been covered. This may sound a bit extreme, but what is more important a life or someones right of way?
  • 55 51
 That marshal still had the nerve to try and blame Andreas. Wtf is wrong with people.
  • 8 1
 Fight or flight
  • 88 0
 If you listen to the marshall, it's actually the opposite. He ordered the car to stop, but the driver forced through. The marshall is angry at the car, not at Andreas
  • 5 3
 Did he? I'm not sure from the footage.
  • 44 0
 The marshal is upset yes, but in french it's against the car driver, not Andreas Wink
  • 9 0
 nah he tried to explain himself to Andreas, he said : "j ai lui dit" , probably spelt wrong by me -anyway it means "I have told him" (to stop).
  • 4 0
 @Pedro404: He said "I told her" in french
  • 18 0
 @Pedro404:
Andreas: "You need to stop him"
Marshall to the driver: "Are you stupid"
Marshall: "I told him"
Marshall to the driver of the car: "You need to back up"
  • 7 1
 He didn't (I'm french), he's trying to avoid being accountable for it.

Marshall: He's f*cking dumb! (talking about the driver)
Andreas: You need to look!
Marshall: This is what I told him!! (talking about the driver to stop)
Andreas: You need to stop him!
Marshall: big silence....
  • 12 0
 edit :

Andreas - HEYYY.
Marchall - C'est pas vrai // Imbelievable.
A - WTF.
M - Il est con celui là // This is a real idiot.
A - You need to look.
M - Je lui ai dit // I told him.
A - You need to stop him.
That's f*cking dangerous.
M - Vous allez reculer // You're going to backup
  • 6 8
 The marshal was standing on the wrong side of the track. Why not stand on the right side of the track, on the road? Where he was standing was pointless, clearly.
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flag jimmythehat (Jul 2, 2021 at 1:50) (Below Threshold)
 He’s french so is born waving his arms
  • 28 0
 @Bperd: Well, you can also drive down this road so the marshal has a 50% chance to stand on the right side of the track. Maybe two marshals would help...
  • 1 8
flag Bperd (Jul 2, 2021 at 1:59) (Below Threshold)
 @squarewheel: it looks like a narrow road, assuming it was one way.
  • 4 0
 How dare Andreas rides his bike there. The nerve
  • 4 0
 @Bperd: but aren't the roads two-way roads?
  • 8 0
 @Bperd: They used to have two heavily armed marshalls at this crossings. But one was ordered to leave for the Tour de France to take out anyone who might like to say hi to mom and dad. Let's just hope he doesn't take anyone out who attempts this annual TdF road gap.
  • 1 0
 @jimmythehat: username checks out!
  • 2 0
 @Bperd: You can literally see another car driving the other way in the video.
  • 2 0
 @Bperd: Cars are coming from both directions. You can see a car coming down the hill in the opposite direction.
  • 5 0
 Meanwhile in other news, Trick stuff and continental profits soar....
  • 4 0
 Yeh literally blown away he managed to pull up in time, that was mighty impresssive!!!
  • 5 0
 -96 kaprun wc there were cows on the track
  • 6 0
 Heard a Rumour Rob Warner won that.... Might not be true tho, he never mentions it :')
  • 6 2
 France aint doing so good this week keeping riders safety away from the public. That could have been REALLY bad
  • 2 0
 Yeh that TDF pile up was awful
  • 11 0
 Agreed, Fort Bill did a bang-up job keeping the riders safe this year.
  • 1 0
 There’s even police there right behind the red Alfa. Seems like they just arrived on the scene, and later on ordered the driver to back up (reculez s’il vous plaît). Maybe in order to regulate traffic. The issue is, you can’t close this road, there’s several houses that are only accessible via this specific road. In the past during crankworx or WC races these crossings (or specifically the one at the road gap) were taped. Cars could pass but only rarely and by lifting the tape. Here the marshal seems to be slacking and trying to make the driver accountable.

Nevertheless, an unpleasant situation to say the least
(I grew up in France so know what they are saying)
  • 1 0
 It's been close before with Rachel and a couple of others nearly getting wiped out by traffic crossing the course. Marshall's are accountable for stopping these incidents and definitely shouldn't be having a go at a rider nearly hitting a car driving across a track when the worlds best riders are coming down at such speeds...... CRAZY.
  • 1 0
 This exactly happened to me when I was a junior racing at Malverns many years ago. Right at the bottom of a downhill section a woman with a stroller was ushered by a marshal to cross the track right in front of me. Terrifying.
  • 6 3
 How's the form of the flaggy giving the rider a serve for not giving way to the car....
  • 9 0
 Australian much? Hahaha I had to
Translate that!
  • 5 2
 Loose translation from Australian:

How ridiculous is that marshal (with the flag = flaggy) for blaming the rider (giving him a serve) for not stopping for the car at the track crossing.
  • 2 0
 @Nickybgoesdownhill: haha classic.

When engaging verbose communication amoungst the colloquial, administrations of the distinct eloquence of linguistical dialects would validate the only vocal requirements as;
"Howzthisc*nt"
  • 2 0
 should put another stoopid dangerous roadgap there, just add a tricky run-in and a super narrow berm turn there…to spice stuff up put the livecast camtower behind the berm
  • 3 0
 Just goes to show that there are dithering idiots all over the world and not just in England! Ha!
  • 2 0
 Who is his brake sponsor? He’s lucky he had good brakes!! DH racers are pretty focused as well and spotted it in time. Pretty ridiculous.
  • 2 0
 Expecting French drivers to follow the rules… ah!
Didn’t you know that “not following rules” is the true French national sport
  • 4 0
 "YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT YOUR DESTINATION."
  • 3 0
 How the hell does that car still have both mirrors?
  • 2 0
 Hope this is addressed as a safety issue. It could be a really bad accident waiting to happen!
  • 4 2
 Fuck that gormless marshal off for sure and get one who knows about traffic management, useless prick.
  • 2 0
 That marshal deserves to get at least one kneecap removed with a corkscrew.
  • 2 2
 Useless POS Track Marshall!! WTF dude!! Get his ass out of there. He should be before the track to stop the car not after - when it's ALREADY ON TRACK! Then he gives Kolb shit?????
  • 2 0
 What if the car was going to other direction?
  • 2 0
 I wonder if he was out of the way for next rider, based on the whistles I am thinking no
  • 1 0
 Maybe the next rider heard and F bomb warning signal.
  • 1 0
 He stood there just telling the driver to stop. Needs to be less lazy considering the rider could have died if he hit the car going that fast.
  • 2 0
 OMG... BMW, Audi and now also Alfa Romeo drivers... The amount of aggression against cyclists is incredible
  • 1 0
 I saw myself across a ski race coarse this last winter snowboarding. The guy watching the gate was down in the woods taking a pee. Weiner handler.
  • 1 0
 @usmbc-co-uk: this marshal was probably expecting a french line or a huge bunny hop to avoid the car. Instead of that, he got an angry mountain biker Smile
  • 1 0
 Pheeew, my stomach turned upside down just watching and knowing nothing happend.
  • 2 0
 Shouldn’t of happened and really annoying but hardly a near miss
  • 6 0
 In health & safety speak a 'near miss' is when something bad could have happened but didn't, rather than literally being a whisker away from disaster
  • 1 0
 @johnnyboy11000: yup, that's a near miss report all day.
  • 2 1
 Just block the road. It's a mistake of UCI, they don't understand anything else than road cycling...
  • 2 1
 youtu.be/i3o5SB1CfgU

I don’t know Lloyd, the French are A
a*sholes.
  • 2 0
 That language...I am sooooo triggered.
  • 2 0
 Volunteers without training
  • 1 0
 “Narrowly misses” well not really. Car should be there but it wasn’t even remotely close.
  • 1 0
 ..shouldn’t be there
  • 3 0
 Would you have clicked the title, "Andreas Kolb slowly rides a Car on the Les Gets World Cup Course"?
  • 1 0
 I wish I could jump between 3 languages like that… (and ride like that obviously)
  • 2 0
 What would David Hasselhoff in his KITT have done?
  • 1 0
 KITT would have said, "Michael, I detect a fast approaching mountain rider heading our way. I advise you to stop." Michael would have told KITT to shut up and collided with him.
  • 1 0
 The marshal is stood in the wrong place - he needs to block the entry to the course, not the exit...
  • 2 0
 Marshall.. DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!!
  • 1 0
 That is absolutely outrageous. Marshall and driver both at fault. Physical barrier of some sort required
  • 1 0
 normal circumstances without a Marshall there he should have slapped the shit out of the driver
  • 2 0
 That driver was an idiot but the Marshal should be fired . What a joke
  • 2 0
 “Damn cyclists! Get off the road!"
  • 2 0
 The marshall was still watching Mbappe miss that PK.
  • 2 0
 Build a new road GAP! DO IT!
  • 1 0
 First the Tour de France thing and now this... THESE ARE SIGNS OF BIGGER THINGS TO COME, OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE
  • 1 0
 The car driver was a cock, but it was hardly dangerous, he saw it a mile off
  • 1 0
 Did Kolb get a new timed practice run?
  • 2 0
 doubt it, timed training doesnt really matter
  • 19 0
 @jackheat: I ride so hard, then there's a car. In the end, it doesn't even matter.
  • 7 7
 "was thankfully able to haul on the Trickstuff anchors on his Continental Atherton team bike" sounds like a bad ad...
  • 6 0
 Sounds more like someone trying to get their word count up for an essay.
  • 1 0
 Shocking! The Marshall messed up there
  • 1 0
 That Alpha would have been destroyed
  • 1 0
 Good old alfa, check for oil spots on the track where it stop
  • 1 0
 French people don't like bikes this week.
  • 1 0
 "Excuse me mate, we're trying to find a Go Ape. Any Ideas?"
  • 1 0
 If the conditions were wet….. that would of ended differently!
  • 1 0
 Just trying to get home from the Tour de France…
  • 1 0
 Brawndo, it's got what retards crave
  • 1 0
 I have a saying... "BRAKES BITCH!!!" =P
  • 2 0
 When you have one job.
  • 1 0
 F that Marshall and f that car.
  • 1 0
 He drops a couple F-bombs (justifiably) - what did they bleep at the end?
  • 1 0
 STOP/SLOW signs aren't that expensive ay
  • 1 0
 Hopefully that guy was removed from his post.
  • 1 0
 One word: cones
  • 1 0
 Les Gets Les Car
  • 1 0
 Sorry Renault been a few years- Meant Le Car
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