Yeti Re-Signs Jared Graves as an Ambassador

Jan 23, 2020 at 7:36
by James Smurthwaite  
Photos:Thomas Falconer

Yeti Cycles has confirmed today it has re-signed Jared Graves as an ambassador and part-time racer.

Jared raced with the Colorado brand for over a decade and now returns to them after a 5-year stint with Specialized. He is mainly coming on board as an ambassador however he still plans to race select Enduro World Series events and compete in some "unexpected races" yet to be announced. He will also help coach younger Yeti riders.

bigquotesI still feel like I have some good racing left in me, and a little bit to prove. After a very difficult year-and-a-half personally, I’m looking forward to racing and working with Yeti againJared Graves

bigquotesWe’re stoked to have Jared back in the family. In my mind, he’s one of the best bike racers of all time. His work ethic and commitment to the sport will set an example for our younger riders. We’re excited to see him riding a Yeti again.Chris Conroy


The news comes a week after the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) confirmed it handed down an 18 month suspension backdated to 18 September 2018 after Graves tested positive for the prohibited substances Higenamine and Oxilofrine at Orlargues in May 2018. Jared will be able to return to competition on 18 March 2020, 10 days before the first EWS race in Manizales. Graves has also had his results from 13 May 2018 onward disqualified, including his 7th place in Whistler that year. Read the full verdict here.


Press Release: Yeti Cycles

Yeti Cycles announced today they have signed legendary rider Jared Graves. Graves raced for the Yeti program for over a decade where he won a World Championship in 4X, an Enduro World Series overall title, took a World Championship bronze in DH on a trail bike, and represented Australia in the Olympics as a BMX rider.

“The Yeti crew is like family, so it feels very comfortable to be back,” said Graves. “They’re a small company, focused on product development and committed to making bikes that help racers go faster. Yeti doesn't compromise. It’s only the best and their passion for the sport is unmatched. Those are traits we share.”

Graves’ new role will be as a Yeti ambassador. His race schedule includes select Enduro World Series events and he also has plans to compete in some unexpected races yet to be announced. “I still feel like I have some good racing left in me, and a little bit to prove. After a very difficult year-and-a-half personally, I’m looking forward to racing and working with Yeti again,” Graves said. His new role will also focus on mentoring and coaching the younger Yeti riders.

“We’re stoked to have Jared back in the family,” said Chris Conroy, president of Yeti Cycles. “In my mind, he’s one of the best bike racers of all time. His work ethic and commitment to the sport will set an example for our younger riders. We’re excited to see him riding a Yeti again.”

According to Yeti’s vice president and engineer, Steve Hoogendoorn, “Jared was an integral part of developing Yeti’s early race bikes, including the 303 DH, DJ, 4X, limited edition BMX frame, SB66, and SB6. He’ll contribute immediately to our product development process and we’re happy to have him back.”




240 Comments

  • 453 11
 YESSSSSS! The news I’ve been waiting for! Welcome back Jared!
  • 55 4
 Upvote infinity.
  • 25 0
 BOOO YAAAH!! Great news.
  • 16 0
 Hell yes!! Great year for Graves and Yeti!!
  • 15 0
 Hell yeah! Wonder if graves has any Yeti DJ's still stashed away, so Yeti doesn't have to find another on the second hand market. lol
  • 5 0
 Go Gravesy go
  • 37 20
 Yes this is so DOPE !
  • 2 0
 Someone called it early on... whoever it was got it spot on
  • 16 0
 @NorCalNomad: Have you seen his bike collection? I think he's kept at least 1 of everything for his entire career. Yeti probably called him to score a DJ frame for Reed Boggs
  • 1 0
 @NorCalNomad: there’s his wc hanging on the wall at yeti
  • 2 0
 *sniff
The most beautiful thing I've ever heard
  • 1 0
 @rockyj: you guys won’t get a reaction !
  • 2 0
 Finally Graves where He belongs, welcome back to the tribe. You have Set the Milestone for yeti's racing tribe for years.
  • 3 0
 @schmichael325: WHY is his toilet hanging on the wall?
  • 4 1
 I like it. Yeti harbouring no hard feelings against him. They know it's just business. He didn't want to leave the team but he owed it to himself to follow the money and cash in while he could. Loyalty doesn't pay the mortgage. Good on you, Jared. Good on you, Yeti.
  • 343 84
 Dope team!
  • 75 35
 The Americans will downvote you for this
  • 25 6
 As will the Ozzies
  • 13 56
flag onemind123 (Jan 23, 2020 at 9:07) (Below Threshold)
 Clever.

How's that working for you?
  • 12 2
 @onemind123: judging by your down votes, you dont have a lot of single serving friends
  • 35 5
 18 month suspension ends 3 week before the first EWS event. How convenient.
  • 8 8
 Dope Socks!
  • 67 17
 Yes let’s concentrate on the doping rather than the fact the guy beat cancer. Round of applause
  • 11 7
 @JoeRSB: Because the rest of you don't dope, cough, Froome, cough.
  • 9 2
 @SlodownU: yeah others got caught for it, so it's fine if we cheat too!
  • 8 2
 @Boosting: No one cheats in bike racing anymore though, its been completely eradicated. Same with Olympic sports. Lets all just pretend that this fantasy is true.
  • 1 0
 anyone know where I can get some Anthracite socks?
  • 32 7
 @enduroNZ: Frankly speaking, the most important thing here is that he beat cancer and is still shredding. Is there anything more important than still being alive?
  • 34 8
 @enduroNZ: You realize Lance used that exact same line to shout down his accusers, right?
  • 26 45
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 14:54) (Below Threshold)
 @Phillyenduro: who gives a shit? Lance has shown way more integrity and dedication to do his profession than you did to anything. You know what, I think you are whiny little Joey who hasn’t really achieved anything, who wouldn’t win a bike race even if given a truck of EPO a year before the competition. Prove me wrong. It’s on you, guilty until proved innocent! You do realize the game you are playing right?
  • 12 4
 Bartender? I'll have whatever he's having, please.
  • 4 21
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 15:11) (Below Threshold)
 @Phillyenduro: Fly Agaric Tea...
  • 14 13
 @Phillyenduro: Lance got the cancer from doping in the first place. Having a multi million dollar cycling team with an international doping program utilizing all sorts of crazy drugs and blood doping eventually ruining the lives of many athletes around him is a far cry from these guys taking some questionable supplements. 18 months was served, let's move on.
  • 7 2
 Finally, Whoopi Goldberg isn't the only person in the world who believes Lance's doping caused cancer. You've done the world a great service.
  • 9 5
 @Tmackstab: it’s not like the f*cking flu dude, you don’t just catch it. Graves getting cancer is no different than how Lance got it. It all comes down to the way the body replicated its DNA, on that day when it went unchecked and the quality control supervisor was out for a liquid lunch shit went down.
  • 16 6
 @Phillyenduro: Comparing Lance to Graves isn't exactly a good comparison. Lance systematically and deliberately cheated for years while Graves got in trouble for a pre workout purchased at a grocery store. Lance (and other riders from that era) are the reason why the rules are ridiculously/borderline insanely strict now.
  • 4 10
flag Riwajc (Jan 23, 2020 at 20:48) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: if anyone is whiny on here it's you. you assumptious peasant. Bloody hypocrite. God I wish I could meet you in real life. I would teach you a lesson.
  • 1 0
 @mi-bike: Ozzy Osbourne?
  • 7 1
 @WAKIdesigns: you know it's trolling when the words "Armstrong" and "integrity" are used in the same sentence...
  • 11 10
 @WAKIdesigns: mentality like yours is a shame and a disaster for basically any sport.
Also, cancer or death won't make anyone cleaner or better.
They cheated, they should be forced to watch races from the tv for their entire life.
But sponsor don't really care about doping, both graves and rude got a fresh new contract, there is something really wrong in all this.
  • 6 18
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 24, 2020 at 2:49) (Below Threshold)
 @DavideBalbo: mentality like yours is a shame and disaster for basically any developed social structure. If you want go black and white, please find time machine and back to pre 1945. The further back the more comfortable you will be. Like Inquisition. Excellent. You'd make a great heckler in the crowds during executions
  • 7 8
 @WAKIdesigns: there are rules, Graves didn't respect that. If you can't accept it is your problem, you don't need to go around taking in useless and stupid examples.
  • 2 0
 @DavideBalbo: nah, he simply has a cute fetish for bmxer turned mtber and can't stand that you as a mere Joey disrespects his lord savior
  • 6 9
 @DavideBalbo: that is exactly what I meant. I personally have no internal will to vindicate people with no respect to scale between using Whey Protein and EPO/ blood transfusions.

So good luck with that, I am sure you are a nice decent man on daily basis. Just tell when you are around when linch hangs in the air. I'll stay away from you then
  • 3 0
 @Tmackstab: yeah, that's not accurate. millions of men around the world get testicular cancer for a variety of reasons. doping not being one of them.
  • 1 0
 @grldm3: bwhahaha yep it was all an accident!
  • 2 0
 @mattsavage: @corvcycleguy: your both right that people get cancer all the time and that it’s not directly caused by “doping”.

However if people take certain performance enhancing substances (notably EPO, human growth hormone and similar) it can increase their risk factors for a variety of cancers including tumors.

The banned substances these guys tested positive for are not known to increase risk of tumors. So any opinions on the connectedness of the two events is based on the speculation that this positive test was just the tip of the iceberg. Hard to know, I wouldn’t put my body through that for an EWS win though.

Either way I’m sure we’d all wish Jared well with his continued recovery.
  • 97 4
 F*CKCANCER
  • 89 3
 How long before Cody Kelley gets back with Yeti for the dream team?
  • 8 2
 Spesh rumours
  • 12 0
 Cody only follows yeti on Instagram, not specialized or alchemy anymore
  • 9 0
 @sean-rankin: thats some digging deep!
  • 4 0
 @sean-rankin: pretty funny you mention that, alchemy doesn’t even follow him now either.

Meow!
  • 80 0
 “Jared was an integral part of developing Yeti’s early race bikes, including the 303 DH, DJ, 4X, limited edition BMX frame, SB66, and SB6. He’ll contribute immediately to our product development process and we’re happy to have him back.”

Sounds like a lot of planets aligning to bring back the DJ.... @yeticycles . Waiting for the next press release with bated breathe...
  • 11 2
 Time to get the russian bot armies to upvote this comment a billion times.
  • 30 2
 I'm sure they'll have the market for $8000 dirt jumpers cornered in no time
  • 5 0
 @chize: just sell them as "pump track bikes" instead. Anyone can "ride" a pumptrack...
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad: make YETI DJ great again
  • 57 7
 First off stoked to see Jared back on Yeti and my gut says we will see some decent results from him this year on the SB150.

Regarding the whole doping thing, he posted a detailed overview in a thread on PB previously, here is the copy;

Ok,I'll try and clear a few things up, NO BS, just facts, hope it can help. The supplemnet in question in this case is BPM labs "the one" which if you want to look it up. Now states Higenamine in the ingredients list, but in older versions, and in the tub in this case was listed as Nandina Domestica (fruit extract) and the oxilofrine component is still labelled as Synephrine HCL. Things get tricky when you type these ingredients into the WADA search and not a single result comes up, which tells you everything is OK. So we had to dive a bit deeper into finding out how these things got in our systems, and when we did, we found of that many ingredients have many different variations, and names, which is what has caught us out. We also found out since learning the hard way, just how prevalent these ingredients are in off the shelf pre workout drinks, which is a bit scary when you first hand find out the consequences, and how unregulated products with these ingredients are. Even a teenager could walk in to a supplement store and buy this, no questions asked. I've also since learned that 1 in 5 off the shelf pre workout drinks (in Australia at least) have something banned in them. Everything i've mentioned above had to be proven beyond doubt to the AFLD (french anti doping) theres no corruption, or loopholes, or lawyers spin put on it. Just facts and real consequences. So i'll put my hand up all day long and say im guilty of negligence. MY mindset was that I'v never sought anything performance enhancing, and Ive never had an issues with the Dozens and Dozens of in and out of competition doping tests ive had, so all will be good. I git a bit too relaxed with the whole process, I never thought there was any chance I could ever be in this situation, yet here we are. A moment of Negligence yes, premeditated cheaters, hell NO!!!! Maybe ask yourself, would you ever think you need to do extensive study and research, on every ingredient of every thing you ever put in your body? Combine that with what I said above, and hopefully you get a clearer picture of how this very unfortunate situation has come to be. Possibly the main reason i'm writing this is the amount of uneducated and downright false comments here. Some of you really should be a bit more careful with your wild assumptions and accusations. There are real people on the other side of this. Its obvious that many just want to be hateful and drag people down, and that's pretty sad. When road cycling and in Particular Lance Armstrongs name gets thrown in the ring, WOW, are you serious??? Consider the things iv'e mentioned, and maybe think again. People all seem to think theres some kind of Magic pill out there, that will take them from weekend warrior to world class level podium guy. Nobody stops to think that maybe the 25+ hours a week spent training, in the gym, on the bike, not going out with your friends, 5am starts, the constant crahses, injuries and sacrifices, has a bit more to do with it. The work that goes in is simply incomprehendable to most, and it's what makes the difference. Everyone who trains and competes at that level understands that, Which I would say is the main reason no other pros have spoken up about this. Mistakes were made, and we're both paying the biggest price for that. It's added more stress to my life, on an already extremely stressful time. So maybe take the time to consider both sides of the equation before spreading some uneducated hate, and misinformation.
  • 47 2
 Yes! So pumped for this news. What a stacked team. Rude/Neer/Graves! That's just bonkers.
  • 10 1
 Reed Boggs
  • 10 0
 Carson Eiswald is gonna be a player too!
  • 7 1
 Don't forget Nate!
  • 8 0
 And Barry Nudd. Carp fishing legend.
  • 47 4
 A single tear is trickling down my cheek right now. Bikes man. Yeti's 2020 roster is the business.
  • 42 4
 Awesome news for all! Congrats Yeti and congrats Jared!
  • 39 2
 We need to see yeti sb200 dh bike
  • 11 32
flag DoctorWatson (Jan 23, 2020 at 8:05) (Below Threshold)
 Have you ridden the SB165 to its fully potential yet? ImO there is no need for a SB200 or so.....the 165 is a pretty versatile machine!
  • 51 1
 @DoctorWatson: Versatility is for the birds, SB200 would be a dedicated DH race machine.
  • 36 1
 @DoctorWatson:
How many 165mm bikes were raced in WC DH last year?
  • 33 20
 @DoctorWatson: What do you reckon - what does SB165 offer over virtually every single 27.5 160 bike out there? Make it SB180 or SB200 and we can talk because calling it a "park bike" doesn't really cut it. Whoever wants to believe in unique geo or kinematics or suspension setup, some dude putting DC fork on it - be my guest - but there is absolutely nothing that makes SB165 any more capable on DH courses or big jump lines than any other 160 bike (given same components), and consequently nothing that would make it any worse than any other 160 bike at "enduroing". It's all a matter of personal setup.
  • 28 1
 Graves and Yeti are like peanut butter and jam...they just go together.
  • 53 2
 Like cocaine and waffles
  • 35 3
 like weed and... any food
  • 8 4
 Peanut butter and.... Ladies
  • 52 8
 Like sharing a water bottle with a close friend.
  • 11 7
 like prison food and ass
  • 3 0
 Gravy and mashed potatoes
  • 1 14
flag Corvcycleguy (Jan 23, 2020 at 17:35) (Below Threshold)
 Like peanut butter and your mom’s dog...”here girl! Who likes the skippy? Ooooohhhh ggghoood guuuurrrl”
  • 4 0
 Like Yeti and DH racing..
  • 1 0
 peanut butter and mayonaise
  • 3 0
 @mattsavage: Dude... No.
  • 51 34
 "His work ethic and commitment to the sport will set an example for our younger riders. "

"The news comes a week after the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) confirmed it handed down an 18 month suspension backdated to 18 September 2018 after Graves tested positive for the prohibited substances Higenamine and Oxilofrine at Orlargues in May 2018."

Do Yeti think that is really a good example for younger riders?
  • 13 10
 Did he ever really address his failed test? I know he had other more important things going on at the time, but if he's going to race again, I think it's reasonable to expect him to do so.
  • 3 1
 @shredddr: yes he did, I will post the response shortly
  • 68 3
 Below is copy paste from ancient history.

"At the risk of this devolving into another Graves/Rude doping thread, here's a bit of info straight from the source. Easy to miss as it was given in the PB comment section rather then an official statement, but I imagine that may be forthcoming with further announcements of his plan. More here: www.pinkbike.com/u/jaredgraves

'Ok,I'll try and clear a few things up, NO BS, just facts, hope it can help. The supplemnet in question in this case is BPM labs "the one" which if you want to look it up. Now states Higenamine in the ingredients list, but in older versions, and in the tub in this case was listed as Nandina Domestica (fruit extract) and the oxilofrine component is still labelled as Synephrine HCL. Things get tricky when you type these ingredients into the WADA search and not a single result comes up, which tells you everything is OK. So we had to dive a bit deeper into finding out how these things got in our systems, and when we did, we found of that many ingredients have many different variations, and names, which is what has caught us out. We also found out since learning the hard way, just how prevalent these ingredients are in off the shelf pre workout drinks, which is a bit scary when you first hand find out the consequences, and how unregulated products with these ingredients are. Even a teenager could walk in to a supplement store and buy this, no questions asked. I've also since learned that 1 in 5 off the shelf pre workout drinks (in Australia at least) have something banned in them. Everything i've mentioned above had to be proven beyond doubt to the AFLD (french anti doping) theres no corruption, or loopholes, or lawyers spin put on it. Just facts and real consequences. So i'll put my hand up all day long and say im guilty of negligence. MY mindset was that I'v never sought anything performance enhancing, and Ive never had an issues with the Dozens and Dozens of in and out of competition doping tests ive had, so all will be good. I git a bit too relaxed with the whole process, I never thought there was any chance I could ever be in this situation, yet here we are. A moment of Negligence yes, premeditated cheaters, hell NO!!!! Maybe ask yourself, would you ever think you need to do extensive study and research, on every ingredient of every thing you ever put in your body? Combine that with what I said above, and hopefully you get a clearer picture of how this very unfortunate situation has come to be. Possibly the main reason i'm writing this is the amount of uneducated and downright false comments here. Some of you really should be a bit more careful with your wild assumptions and accusations. There are real people on the other side of this. Its obvious that many just want to be hateful and drag people down, and that's pretty sad. When road cycling and in Particular Lance Armstrongs name gets thrown in the ring, WOW, are you serious??? Consider the things iv'e mentioned, and maybe think again. People all seem to think theres some kind of Magic pill out there, that will take them from weekend warrior to world class level podium guy. Nobody stops to think that maybe the 25+ hours a week spent training, in the gym, on the bike, not going out with your friends, 5am starts, the constant crahses, injuries and sacrifices, has a bit more to do with it. The work that goes in is simply incomprehendable to most, and it's what makes the difference. Everyone who trains and competes at that level understands that, Which I would say is the main reason no other pros have spoken up about this. Mistakes were made, and we're both paying the biggest price for that. It's added more stress to my life, on an already extremely stressful time. So maybe take the time to consider both sides of the equation before spreading some uneducated hate, and misinformation."
  • 52 22
 Way to go Korev - spreading steaming stool from assumptionistic douche canoe. What’s in it for you? Ask yourself that powerful question. Hell yeah will I be telling my kid about Jared Graves one of the greatest mountain bikers of all times, how being a BMX racer elevated his game, how he dominated 4X and eon EWS titles. Hell yeah. And then I will tell my kids how many low lives feed their with half arsed accusations, because they have nothing better to live by, than some bullsht high fly values. They just wait for the great ones to stumble to feel a bit less shitty about themselvss
  • 7 0
 @lbsteinm: thanks for that. I missed it earlier.
  • 8 19
flag gonzoracing (Jan 23, 2020 at 13:12) (Below Threshold)
 @lbsteinm: Its totally inconsistent.

"So i'll put my hand up all day long and say im guilty of negligence. MY mindset was that I'v never sought anything performance enhancing".

"People all seem to think theres some kind of Magic pill out there, that will take them from weekend warrior to world class level podium guy. Nobody stops to think that maybe the 25+ hours a week spent training, in the gym, on the bike, not going out with your friends, 5am starts, the constant crahses, injuries and sacrifices, has a bit more to do with it. The work that goes in is simply incomprehendable to most, and it's what makes the difference. Everyone who trains and competes at that level understands that, Which I would say is the main reason no other pros have spoken up about this."

Fixated on training and being the best and poor me, Im totally focused and you All's don't understand how hard it is.....yet despite this fixation on being the best and the numerous warnings and advice and sessions with Australian Institute Sport and range of other bodies including ASADA, UCI, cycling associations and EWS's former mantra and stated policy of ZERO tolerance for drug tests, unknown shit seeking a magic pill result was put in the athletes system by the athlete, and EWS will have him back despite being and serving a drug ban obtained while in competition.

Trust in our institutions and people we regard as leaders starts with them, not blaming lack of labelling or standards or advice or ignorance after a lifetime in high level elite completion. Do what you say you would do EWS, and accept that this is a poor look for current and new generations. Despite the personal hardship and fate probably caused by increase and unnatural mitochondrial activity caused by taking unknown magic pills over a lifetime, one player no matter how good should be bigger than the sports integrity if its to be sustainable and have credibility.
  • 8 16
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 13:29) (Below Threshold)
 @gonzoracing: what is inconsistent and lacking integrity is organization like UCI or Olympic committee. That is because it is run by humans. If you are incapable of explaining to your kids that they have to do their best and not cheat but some will cheat anyways, that their idols are just humans full of good as well as faults, many of which have supreme genetics, supreme contacts, access to training facilities, that your kids may never get, then huh, you have a problem. Life is not easy mate. Raising kids is not easy. How will you tell your kids about politicians? Every god damn politician is a liar, sell out, yet they go out there and tell about high values, like freedom. Lying, cheating is a form of effectivity and nobody, I repeat, nobody goves a flying damn how well you think about your own truthfullness, everything is a matter of potential social damage in case of being exposed. World is full of frustrated, bitter whackos living by high moral standards, not getting anywhere, as well as corrupt barons making touching species at opening of the most awful show out there called Olympics or Football World Champs. Klep protecting your kids from the world by showing them which athlete you never met, don’t know personally is worth worshipping, instead of teaching them how to see through the bullshit. Because as far as athleticism goes you are best off educating yourself on training, practicing, nutrition and finding best possible coach. That’s hard. Much harder than picking just idols. You are wasting time on irrelevant bullshit. If you can get your kid to train like Jared or whoever you find “coherent” then god damn good on you and your kids.
  • 16 9
 @WAKIdesigns: "You are wasting time on irrelevant bullshit."

Being as came from Waki - that is quite the statement of 2020.

Bit honoured mate you turned your lazer like to my commentary.

Is your thread because everyone does and is and has tendencies, let it slide?

Is that how it is with any profession that we spend 25 or greater hours a week at?

No, you f*ck up on an important matter or question of ethics and business rules, gone - forever to have credibility in profession gone for good, livelihood gone, over.

I get the politics angle. I also get professional and legal advice provided by tax payers through organisations advising of what is a misdemeanour or sackable offence is or not.

I just don't get why when we have stated standards and operational rules, they are allowed to be broken, and somehow the victim card is played.
  • 5 12
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 14:22) (Below Threshold)
 @gonzoracing: We have standards and operational rules because we need guidelines. Because it makes it easier for everybody to get along with each other, to function as a society. But who complies fully? Definitely not people who are there to guard the following of the rules, who execute bans. You have to decide where you are on the scale between anarchy and utopian justice. I am closer to justice, but no definite charges have been presented to Jared, at least not like in Armstrongs case. Hence I don’t get the reactionism as if there were some standards of a “holistically clean” athlete. Someone made a list. THC is on it too.

You are playing a certain role in society. You are a smarter sort of a heckler in the crowd shouting “cheater”, and I am an jester a*shole telling everyone to take it easy, because folks like Lance set themselves higher athletic and professional standards than vast majority of humans and I am wuite sure much higher than you and me.

So if you are looking for a fair show, you are wasting your time.
  • 6 0
 The Dark Side of the Moon is the eighth studio album by English rock band Pink Floyd, released on 1 March 1973 by Harvest Records
  • 6 3
 @WAKIdesigns: In reading your thoughts I never for one moment I would be considered a "smarter sort of a heckler in the crowd shouting “cheater”", nor you being self described as a "jester a*shole telling everyone to take it easy".

Ive read a lot of your stuff (we are bombarded everytime come to this site really) and being a jester a*hole "telling everyone to take it is easy" is not a description that comes front of mind.

Lastly mate - as for "folks like Lance set themselves higher athletic and professional standards than vast majority of humans and I am quite sure much higher than you and me".

Really? Stay off the THC mate. Some people it works for, some people should just keep that in the SWAT box.
  • 4 11
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 15:01) (Below Threshold)
 @gonzoracing: yeah mate really. Actually Really. He was really a professional athlete. So really, your standards are nowhere near his standards. So you may as well respect him as an athlete. Really. Because he is really way above what you ever aspired to, set out to do and accomplished. He boosted himself with dope by 10-20%. By an optimistic estimate We are both still lacking like 50% to clean Lance in terms of effort we put into anything.
  • 7 1
 @WAKIdesigns: are you saying doping is fine? That it’s a normal human trait?

Lance trained hard, yes, and he had crazy genetic traits that let him rise to the top through doping, but ultimately he cheated. All the guys who were doped up to their eyeballs were as bad as each other and took opportunities away from clean athletes. Helped push athletes to doping who just wanted to be competitive. I suggest reading ‘Racing through the Dark’ by Millar if you haven’t to see his viewpoint on what made him start down that slippery slope.

At the end of the day I’d love to have a sport that didn’t tolerate dopers. I thought initially that’s what EWS had set out to do. I get it’s hard to stop doping, but a zero tolerance would certainly make people think twice.
  • 3 1
 @WAKIdesigns: wasn’t he doing roadside blood transfusions just to win bike races? The dudes a total crank, I never want to do something that requires that amount of effort.
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: " sie wollen alle helden fallen sehen, alle denker lallen sehen " sums it up quite accurate
  • 2 5
 @thenotoriousmic: man, all pro roadies ride a road bike at least 25h a week. That’s at least 23h more than I am capable of. I wouldn’t be able to do more than 20h of lift riding A week if I lived in Whistler...
  • 1 0
 @lbsteinm: While his justification is fine and perfectly credible, I just wonder why still so determined to use artifical suplements and all kinds of chemicals. Some people assumes that is the only and the natural way to feed themselves while training or racing. The point is that many other top athletes have learned that they can perfectly skip all these chemicals and suplements if you are simply eating properly and balanced, and drinking water.
They are like: WATER? how on Earth can water hydrate anyone? And quite recently here in Pinkbike was posted a rigorous study stating that POTATOS had the same or even better level of performance than the best energy gels or bars.
  • 1 0
 @kirat: @gonzoracing I don't know why you're tagging me ... but I'm literally just quoting someone else.

If there is any umbrage or confusion, take it up with the offending parties. This in no way, shape, or form reflects my personal opinions.
  • 5 1
 @lbsteinm: Negative prop everything Waki writes and move on.
  • 5 2
 @gonzoracing: Because there's a huge difference between someone doing something like blood transfusions and someone using an off the shelf supplement that contained a enhancer that had just been banned. What he got caught with in his system was legal to use by the UCI in 2016, and then banned in competition in 2017 - but you could still use it for training. It has similar effects to an asthma inhaler, it increases your airway to allow for more oxygen intake.

He doesn't have a sketchy doctor jabbing needles in his veins, he's using the exact same shit every single gym rat is on - it's a pretty clear difference...
  • 1 0
 @Clarkeh: So some rules are big rules and some rules are small rules, and how intently you were caught or determined to break or be like or take exact same shit every single gym rat is on matters.

Except every other single gym rate is not making their name and income from being a professional, nor does every other gym rate be provided the opportunity of national selection or listening year in year out from countless governance and oversight bodies warning how important it is to take absolute care of what you are putting in body, or you alone are responsible for the consequences which can and should preclude you from competing against others whom do.

I know I ride better after my puffer.
  • 1 1
 @gonzoracing: and you are the just one deciding which are the big rules and which are small rules. Show me your results after your puffer or a research proving THC is a performance enhancing drug. Incan tell you the same about macrodosing shrooms I feel sooo much better after 10 caps.
  • 2 0
 @gonzoracing: Yeah exactly, that's why you go to jail for doing 200kph in a 50 zone, and get a fine for doing 60. This is slap on the wrist shit, and they got slapped on the wrist.
  • 1 1
 @Clarkeh: best analogy ever
  • 12 0
 Graves was born for YETI !
  • 12 0
 Excellent news!! Dude is a fighter and love to see him back with Yeti !
  • 10 2
 This is great news. And as for the folks that are getting their knickers in a twist over the doping 'scandal'. It wasn't, it was a mistake, nothing deliberate took place. Shit happens and the consequences were dealt with. Get over yourselves.
  • 10 0
 Is it just me or does it look like he’s wearing sandals.
  • 1 0
 Yep, this monster has turquoise feet!
  • 5 3
 Yep... sandals and socks... the geologist!
  • 1 0
 Not just you, I had to quadruple take. Looked like the footwear of every old man I've ever seen riding a recumbent there for a minute
  • 38 30
 Graves, new MBO Manager of Bottle Operations
  • 10 2
 So stoked to be a fellow ambassador and see you back home #grubby!
  • 5 1
 So back in 2004 I was trying to make a college track team, and I trained with a bunch of guys trying to make the Olympics that year. At the Olympic finals, 90% of the athletes are doping in that stadium (for track and field). Its the same (still) in road racing.

Is it the same in mountain bike racing?
  • 4 1
 I duno, I was on a college track team in 2004 with several athletes competing in the olympics and everyone was clean.
  • 1 0
 @LaXcarp: Sprinters/jumpers? Or middle distance guys?
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: sprinters and pole vaulters
  • 1 0
 @LaXcarp: Hey, I vaulted too! I specifically was training with Tim Mack (not that he would remember me)
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez:
"Are you a pole vaulter?"

"No, I am German, but how did you know my name is Walter?"
  • 10 7
 I think given the whole history behind the Graves/Rude story, they've done well to stay relatively quiet about the whole thing. If they were desperate to clear their names, they could have laid out in detail exactly what happened and probably saved their reputation a bit more, or they could do what they did and save certain sponsors quite a lot of embarrassment but maybe loses a few followers as a results.

I'm not saying they're innocent or guilty, I don't think the majority of us will ever really know, but it is interesting to see how they've both dealt with this whole thing.

If they truly wanted or cared what most of us think (which arguably is more important for their sponsors, apart from maybe Rhynopowder) then they would write a very detailed description of what happened and release it. Rude's quick description of a 'friends water bottle' isn't enough to show innocence, or lack of intent to cheat.

I'd like to believe these guys are top athletes, and I'm definitely inclined to believe that neither of them actively took part in doping, and that really it's just a shitty sponsor who hasn't provided appropriate product to top athletes. We just need to hear a bit more to really get a better understanding of it.

They may lose a certain sponsor as a result in the short term, but their credibility would probably increase their sponsorship appeal and income in the long term.
  • 19 12
 That’s not how PR works because people don’t give a sht about the truth, we just want sensation, excitement, more news. Whatever you say WILL be used against you. You will clean your name for 5 minutes and then everything will be interpreted and spinned around.
  • 12 0
 You say we'll never know if they're innocent or guilty. But they tested positive to banned doping substances. Then they had the chance to contest the result. Then they both admitting ingesting the banned substances. So they both were sanctioned for doping and suspended. Mystery solved.
  • 2 0
 Wait, are you saying there is no official statement how the banned substances ended up in his water bottle?

I thought I was just ignorant and didn't know the details.
  • 4 3
 @Phillyenduro: You're right Philly, and they served their suspensions, case is closed. Time to go RACING!
  • 40 5
 @WAKIdesigns: This!!!! People would rather create drama than be realistic about things. My conscience is clear, and i'm long past the point of giving a shit about what the haters think and say.
  • 38 3
 @Phillyenduro: Theres a very good reason for not contesting the results, because you can argue with the anti doping agencies all day long about how something ended up in your system, but the fact is, when it comes to sanctions, it literally doesnt matter, if it's in your system, your going to get a ban, there's simply no way to prove that you had no idea you ingested it, the Agencies simply dont care. ( and I personally think that a good approach)
People seem to have this idea that you can get re tested, and if it comes up clean then its all good, but this is not the case, your A and B samples are taken at the same time ( you pee into a cup, half goes in the A sample, the other half into the B) so if the A sample has something in it the B sample will also. The only reason you would get a B sample tested is if you had reason to believe that your A sample was tampered with after it was sealed up and taken to the lab.

Plus the fact that getting the B sample tested or 'contesting the result was going to cost about $4k out of our pocket. Which would only come back with the same result and therefore be a complete waste of money.

Most of the time when somebody gets the B sample tested, its to stall the entire process to come up with some bullshit to get out of the whole situation.

Not contesting the result is not a sign of guilt, it's a shitty situation where you are forced to make a decision to not waste your money, based off of how the whole process works.
  • 4 3
 @ali-chapple read up a couple comments and check out Jared’s full detail of what happened posted by another user. Just because you haven’t seen his full admission and description, doesn’t mean he hasn’t been open and forthright.
  • 11 23
flag Phillyenduro (Jan 23, 2020 at 13:30) (Below Threshold)
 @jaredgraves: I hear all that. And, yes, it makes some sense to me.

On the other hand, I'm part of a generation of cyclists who heard Lance and Tyler and Floyd and all the rest say things that sounded good too. (Even better than "I didn't want to blow 4 grand defending myself against a doping allegation that would haunt my image the rest of my career, if you can imagine.) Said them fiercely and adamantly and repeatedly.

We all believed them at first. We all thought the French journalist guy was unhinged. And then slowly, painfully, we all realized we'd been suckers. Maybe you had this experience yourself even, I don't know. But, what I decided and what I think a whole generation of cyclists and cycling fans decided is "never again am I falling for that shit."

Unfair to you? Perhaps. Those guys before you got a benefit of the doubt that many of us now refuse to give Rude and you, and I could understand why that would seem unfair to you.

But dopers are poison for a sport that we care about. Dopers are career-killers for clean athletes we care about. And you, Jared Graves, an amazing athlete who seems like a fine fellow, are now and forever will be a proven doper, and that's that.
  • 9 2
 @Phillyenduro: I assume in your world there's no difference between stabbing someone in the throat with the intent to kill and an emergency tracheotomy?

Also, judging someone on the basis of what others have done is not logical, not fair and results in you saying some really stupid stuff.
  • 4 6
 There is a difference. I happen to believe that's a good defense for Maes, in fact. Graves & Rude, not so much.
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 14:27) (Below Threshold)
 @Phillyenduro: I happen to believe many things. Like who does who at my work. But I am not telling it to their face like you just did to Jared. How noble of you to be on Martins side though... admirable, must be a very educated guess
  • 1 0
 @whambat: Ah sweet thanks dude, that's exactly what I was referring to. I'm a little surprised that that explanation wasn't released as an official explanation instead of posted on a PB thread as it seems to quite clearly explain things.

Like I said, I didn't think they would have cheated on purpose, I was just a little surprised that this sort of response wasn't released more widely seeing as they are so well known in MTB.
  • 3 3
 Pretty sure I just got criticized by Waki for over-sharing opinions!
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 23, 2020 at 14:44) (Below Threshold)
 @Phillyenduro: rub some cbd oil into it...
  • 4 2
 @Phillyenduro: your opinion fits the definition of propaganda. Common logical fallacies are bad like drugs, mkay?
  • 4 0
 @Phillyenduro: Meh, you can’t be expected to make a positive assumption of the intentions of a complete stranger. You can only look at the facts, two racers failed a drugs test anything after that is just pure speculation. That being said Rude and Jarred must have done something right to have this much support and blind faith from the Mtb community and I’m sure they’ll be monitored closely and tested regularly, so you can probably assume it was a mistake unless it happens again.
  • 4 0
 @thenotoriousmic: Until that one test at the French EWS round where they caught 3 or 4 out of 8 riders tested (!) there were no doping tests in the EWS at all. So no, they and all the other EWS racers probably aren´t and for sure weren´t monitored and tested at all.
  • 4 0
 If there weren't such a massive industry revolving around doping and covering it up, I think it would be possible to argue with WADA. But it just isn't. In road cycling, olympic sports (in cold war times but apparently in this new cold war again) prestige and money have driven governments, team managers (or those above that) to push for results over the backs of the athletes, whatever it takes. People talk about Lance as if he was the only one. The Rabobank road cycling team one day had a meeting with the riders. "Ok, results haven't been great because all our competition is doped up. We need results too, we've found a substance we're going to use. Either you're into this, or you leave the room now." What are you going to do? All your life you've been working to get to this point, race at the highest level. And now you have to choose. Leave and leave your dream. Or cheap and keep doing what you love. What kind of choice is that for guys in their early twenties to make. It is easy to judge for those with a keyboard and nothing to lose. But I get it is tough. How much does any of us do to stick with our ethics? What does it take to have an ecological footprint of one Earth instead of three and do we do what it takes? It may actually be even fairer in road cycling if you consider doping part of the game. If everyone is taking it, it is level playing field again.

But I think everything that went behind it made the work of WADA near impossible. There can be no more room for reason. They may love to be considerate but the Olympics and road cycling f*cked it up for you. So with that kind of history in competitive sports and with Chris Ball clearly (and rightfully) stating that he didn't want the same doping culture in EWS, I think it is the only way to go.

I definitely consider Jared, Richie and Martin victims of the current system, created by the historic doping culture in competitive sports. It seems near impossible to avoid using it, if it is in 20% of sports supplements.

I would actually call for more responsibility for the manufacturers of sports supplements. If a supplement contains matter that noted on the (then current) WADA list, it should be clearly noted on the container. And if an athlete gets caught by WADA for something that could be directed to the use of such a (falsely unlabeled) supplement then, uhm... bad things should happen to that supplement manufacturer.
  • 1 0
 @JohSch: but hasn’t that changed since the uci took over?
  • 7 4
 @thenotoriousmic: the facts are that Jared failed a test due to having X stuff in his blood during tests. How it got there is kind of assumption on all sides. But the issue with most accusational comments here is that they are assuming they were deliberately cheating using banned substances. If someone says: we trust Anti doping Agency, Then logical step would be to be perfectly fine with that agency allowing them to compete again. Oh they learned something. Period. But no... never forgive, the fire of selfrighteousness is too hard to resist. Makes me feel so... so righteous... I stand up for high values (values other than: not being a dick by accusing someone of cheating based on assumptions!)
  • 8 0
 @Phillyenduro: so you've never once made a mistake that you had to ask forgiveness for? You're attitude that they made a mistake so they are tainted for the rest of their lives is a pretty sorry way to go about living. You can justify it all you want but all you are claiming is that everyone must be perfect all the time or else they lose every bit of credibility or respect they to began with.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: I agree that manufacturers should label WADA-compliency status. Non-WADA may even boost sales as non-competitors know that it must have something strong in it.
  • 8 1
 They've both stated exactly what happened. What more do you want? They took a supplement that unknowingly contained a banned substance, got busted, and accepted and served their competition ban.
  • 9 6
 In other news, Grubby also received a scholarship for dentistry at the University of Colorado, in Boulder, seriously preparing for his new ambassador role within the Yeti Tribe. Big Grin
  • 17 11
 Yeti getting the BANNED back together
  • 3 1
 underrated comment
  • 2 1
 @mi-bike: Much, that's a great line...
  • 1 0
 @sclark1972: Not for everybody, I guess.
  • 6 1
 @jaredgraves - welcome back !! So when can we get the first ride report and your bike setup of the SB150 ?
  • 7 2
 FUCKYEAHS AND HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND!
  • 5 1
 Jared needs to come test our new 4x track, can do it before his ban runs out too Smile
  • 2 0
 Wicked, you've got a new 4X track. You don't hear that often these days!
  • 5 0
 Graves just looks right in teal.
  • 1 0
 gonna start by saying I'm pumped for Jared after what he's gone through to come back and realign with a brand that was an original "win-win". BUT, am I the only one that saw the "ambassador" part of this article? This term does not bode well with me. It's too vague and plainly unprofessional in nature. I know many ambassadors that represent brands well, but generally not in a "Professional" role. They have influence in the market but not from a product development and racing the world level kind of way. Certainly, he will be involved with product development and racing at the world level. I'm confused. Who's with me? where are my upvotes?
  • 1 0
 Shut up, maudlin
  • 3 1
 I am so glad for you Jared! You deserve a chance to show up some Rad power output! You’ve been through a hell of a lot of diversity. I hope it’s only made you stronger in mind and body, Much luck to you brotha!...????
  • 4 0
 I am stoked to be on yeti, because, like, I really really fucking love turquoise.
  • 5 0
 DID NOT see that coming
  • 11 7
 dope news, so much better than specialized!
  • 4 4
 @ lbsteinm Thanks for posting this, yeah I read it and I hope all these insensitive keyboard whatever’s stop to think that there are two real people who are and should be hugely admired and respected here.
I’m super stoked for Graves and I’m sure Richie is too, fantastic news rooting for you and I’m looking forward to hearing all the stories in 2020!
Good luck
  • 3 3
 People, whatever Jared did or didn't do, with the doping issue, the man beat cancer and still wants to put back into the sport, I've read the bits and pieces flying around the interweb, "i shared this and we drank that, all we thought was legal" whatever..... I'm pretty certain 95% of us on here can relate to the cancer stuff in one way or another, immediate family or close friends etc etc. Let the man finish his career the way he wants and in style, good on you Jared Graves
  • 3 1
 Should have never left the brand, but so glad to see him back in turquoise!
  • 1 0
 Likely wasn't his decision. Yeti may have wanted to go another direction/couldn't afford him. Contracts end and despite all of us being 'bike /biking fans', it's is a business for the pros and their sponsors. Good to see him land somewhere and I hope he can be the best post cancer Jared he can be
  • 3 0
 I can't tell you how excited I am about this! Great news!!!
  • 9 10
 Regardless of blame or intent (or lack thereof), it’s odd for a brand to align themselves with athletes that have a blemish on their record, and to have 2 on the same roster....well, if it works for them, fair enough. Can just see it leaving quite a few people with a less favourable view of Yeti. Glad Jared is well again though.
  • 3 1
 www.asada.gov.au/sanctions

Still banned for doping: "Eighteen (1Cool months
18 September 2018 to 18 March 2020"
  • 3 0
 Just looks right, doesn't it?
  • 2 0
 HELL YEAH. Get some mate !
  • 2 0
 Hell yeah! Grubby's back!!
  • 8 7
 I hope it doesn't come with bad timing but I'm sure Jared will be on fire this year!
  • 3 1
 Called it!!! Finally winning the office pool!!! All of 12cents!!!
  • 2 0
 Yahoo!!! Nice to see him back on turquoise.
  • 2 0
 Yeti DJ full review coming tomorrow
  • 2 0
 Super stoked for Jared CHEERS
  • 2 1
 Anyone else do a double-take on his footwear and think he was wearing turquoise socks with black sandals?
  • 1 0
 Will somebody just bring back 4x to world cups again so Graves can dominate once again!?
  • 1 0
 Is it just me or does that rear derailleur look di2ish?

I zoomed in but its blurry. Could just be my phone
  • 2 0
 Stoked to see you back @jaredgraves!
  • 1 0
 What bike is he sporting there ?

I so love it . And hopefully it’s a 27.5
  • 2 0
 Hoosker Doo!
  • 18 17
 Is he the new team waterboy?
  • 1 0
 Back home, he killed on the yeti at 4x, DH and Enduro....boom
  • 1 0
 Hope we're getting a new 4X frame from Yeti!
  • 2 2
 Yeti is gonna have to ramp up their production due to all the bikes they're going to be selling.
  • 2 0
 Nice one
  • 1 0
 There is such a thing as too much turquoise.
  • 2 0
 About Damm time!!
  • 3 4
 So cool to see him back and even racing. At the same time. A drug bust does taint things a little in my mind. I can't help it.
  • 1 0
 Inwws getting worried for a minute.
  • 1 0
 Make a new YETI DH bike! please! PLEASE!
  • 1 0
 2020 Yeti will be the overall Champ!
  • 2 0
 Loyalty is family
  • 2 1
 This is some Juicey news!
  • 1 0
 And people still wonder why yeti bikes are so expensive.
  • 1 0
 back!
  • 1 0
 YESSSSSSSSSSS
  • 28 29
 These backdated bans are very handy aren’t they . As if it never happened....
  • 47 4
 Backdated bans are an option for the rider so that if UCI takes their time on the ruling it won't screw the rider over. If they stop racing right away, then that's when their ban would effectively start. They are technically allowed to keep racing until a ruling is reached, but that would mean the ban doesn't start until UCI quits dragging their feet, and UCI could still strip their results from the period where they kept racing. So if a rider is pretty confident that UCI will issue a ban, they can opt to start their ban immediately. I think it's a pretty useful tool to keep the delay of bureaucracy in check.
  • 8 2
 @reindeln: Not sure why you got down voted for putting up some facts and perspective.
  • 6 0
 At least in our jurisdictional system it works the same. The time a person spends in the "holding cell" during the trails before being convicted to serve the actual punishment counts towards the time served. So If a trial is dragging for 6 months, that's 6 months off of your sentence right at the start of it.
  • 1 0
 This.
  • 13 13
 I hear Eufemiano Fuentes will be the team doctor.
  • 2 6
flag StFred (Jan 23, 2020 at 9:22) (Below Threshold)
 Just like a little Probenecid...
  • 1 0
 Woohoooo!!!
  • 1 0
 much blue
  • 1 0
 YEEEE HAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 welcome back jared!!!
  • 1 0
 Welcome home Jared.
  • 4 7
 The bike industry don’t give a dime about dope cheats as long as they are making money! That’s the reality! Ride bikes, drink beers, get high, get drunk cause that’s the bicycle culture we see in PB!
  • 15 18
 i can forgive that t-shirt.. but my lord, those shoes and socks are off-the-chart awful. not least of which because it looks like he's wearing sandals with socks.
  • 21 5
 I can forgive that opinion.. but my lord, that punctuation and grammar is off-the-chart awful. not least of which because English is, presumably, your mother tongue.
  • 2 4
 This comment is under rated. Socks and sandals galore!
  • 1 3
 came to comment about the socks and sandals eye trick but i'll let you get downvoted instead LOL
  • 2 3
 given the past it was better if they put an additional bottle holder
  • 10 13
 not Satisfied with dentists alone, Yeti signs talent to attract lawyers to their premium-priced brand.
  • 6 7
 pumPED.
  • 6 9
 I hope that's his water bottle on his bike and not his friends...
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