YT Industries Launches Limited Edition, Shorter Travel Izzo Uncaged 7

Jan 4, 2022 at 6:46
by James Smurthwaite  
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YT has announced a new version of its Izzo trail bike that slices the rear travel from 130mm down to 120mm.

All 3 Core models of the Izzo currently share 130mm of travel front and rear and last year YT launched the Blaze edition that upped the fork travel to 140mm and dropped the grip shift lockout. Now, the German direct sales brand has taken things the other way and released a shorter travel version of the bike called the Izzo Uncaged 7.

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The new Uncaged model is aimed to offer more of an XC feel than the standard Izzo and that is no doubt helped by the fact that this is the lightest full suspension bike YT has ever released, tipping the scales at 11.4kg/25.1lbs (size S).

Nothing has changed about the frame but it is specced with a shorter shock - the RockShox SIDLuxe Ultimate has a 50mm stroke, 5mm shorter than on the Core models, which translates to 10mm less at the rear wheel. The shock is paired with a SID Ultimate fork that matches the 120mm rear travel. This is the only bike in the range to offer SID suspension with the Core models all running Fox 34s and the Blaze running a Pike. Unlike on the Blaze or Core models, riders can still lock out the front and rear suspension thanks to the SRAM TwistLoc Full Sprint remote.

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The Izzo Uncaged 7 is the only YT model to use SID suspension

The changes in travel have also slightly altered the geometry with reaches growing by 3-4mm in each size, and the seat and head tube angles steepening by 0.4°. As the frame has remained unchanged, the rest of the numbers remain generally in line with the Core models. The full geometry chart is below:

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The rest of the spec definitely points to the platform's increased cross country intentions with a SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS groupset, DT Swiss XCR 1200 Spline wheels and Maxxis Rekon Race tires. The full spec is below:

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The bike's XC intentions are backed by it's racy spec

The Izzo Uncaged is limited to a total of 300 bikes sized S to XXL with the majority being offered in Europe and North America priced at: €6,999 / £5,999 / $7,499 USD / $10,499 CAD. More info, here.



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213 Comments
  • 180 1
 Is this what happens when there is a shortage on the shock they need so they order 300 with 5mm shorter stroke and rebrand it?
  • 38 3
 The Pole school of supply chain management
  • 22 0
 Good marketing, eh? I bet it sells out within the week.
  • 26 1
 Except that sid fork shortage is way worse. #bushinggate
  • 4 1
 @mm732:
Is this a thing?
I have a Sid select, and it kinda sucks but I thought it was down to the fact I'm over riding this fork and should definitely be on a pike.
  • 6 1
 Modern problems call for modern solutions.
  • 6 0
 @DylanH93: and...last minute problems get last minute solutions
  • 1 0
 @mm732: Is there a discussion thread on this?
  • 5 1
 @Tayrob: My Sid Select+ has bushing play, RS was out of lowers for months. I said screw it, put thicker weight oil in the lowers and store it upside down and it feels much much better. I think the stanchions are just too short on that fork, I'm skeptical that tighter bushings will fix the issue.
  • 3 0
 @Dopepedaler: last minute solutions is my life story lol. Maybe YT is for me.
  • 1 0
 We were having this discussion yesterday what is the best all round travel option in mm
  • 1 0
 @Tayrob: supposedly a thing. No first hand exp.
  • 2 1
 @Tayrob: as I recall, its basically a Pike with shorter stanchions.
  • 12 0
 @Tayrob: definitely a thing. Literally the first time I pointed my SID Ultimate downhill it started rattling. Instant warranty.

With Pinkbike being a media outlet i'm surprised they haven't done a larger story on this issue. The failure rate has to be insanely high based on forum posts i've seen... even their field test had two with bushing play. Would be cool if they did an in-depth dive on what's causing the issue, and put some heat on Rockshox to explain how the hell these keep shipping.
  • 4 0
 @dresendsit:
OK, so it's bushing play not a sticky, harsh feeling fork. I definitely don't have bushing play but I've never ridden a fork that rides this poorly. I've kept the thing clean, done a handful of lower leg/air piston services and have tried the recommended set up for my weight per Rock Shox. It all results in a fork with little to no small bump sensitivity that I can't use full travel on. If I go to a lower spring pressure I get an unsupported, diving mess. I thought the complaint was the opposite, poor bushing overlap and tolerance causing binding.
  • 1 0
 @wanderingbike: pink bike addressed it their downcountry field test I believe.
  • 1 0
 @Tayrob: pink bike addressed it their downcountry field test I believe.
  • 1 0
 @McKai:
  • 72 0
 They really take this living uncaged thing seriously. Like we get it, fidlocks are neat, but damn.
  • 27 0
 Despite all my rage...
  • 10 0
 @mm732: I'm still just a rat in a cage
  • 7 0
 @cblanc: we are all old.
  • 3 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: Despite all my age...?
  • 2 0
 @AllMountin: still D.R.E
  • 69 5
 I remember back when yt were cheap. I don't really see the point now they cost the same as buying from a bike shop.
  • 9 1
 same feeling here. no point in going with yt anymore if you can get the same from a shop.
  • 3 2
 @andyelton: YT makes great bikes, too bad they're almost impossible to get if you miss the initial drop
  • 7 0
 Yeah, I'm a bit confused by their strategy. I guess they can do whatever at the moment with bikes being in short supply.
  • 26 0
 Nah, that's a full AXS (XX1) bike. That's 11-13k USD from any other brand. Actually a pretty good deal.
  • 17 0
 I mean unless they discontinue it this year they still sell a Capra with a Zeb for 2700. And all you have to do is swap out that awful derailleur.

I think they're definitely still operating in a niche between the Polygons/Vitus' and the brick n mortar brands. YT and Commencal are living in tweenersville with some great prices/awful specs and some middling prices with great specs.

I'd still go this route over buying a 3k+ Santa Cruz with SRAM SX and a Recon fork.
  • 1 3
 @withdignityifnotalacrity: Looks like a Session...
  • 6 0
 @OnTheRivet: this. Just because a brand has more marketing and media hypes it the production costs are probably very similar for a bike. The only real tangible "value for money" from consumer standpoint comes from components. And okay maybe frame if made with extra fancy tech but if the geo suits the rider you could go with any bigger brand and be perfectly happy no matter if Santa Cruz Yeti Giant or Mongoose. Add 1k for carbon over Alu (I will take this chance again to beat the dead horse: give me a good Alu frame with top components over carbon frame with middle-class stuff at the same price every time!). So 7k for this build is a good price, not comparable to a 7k gx build from Specialized and others. And yes the same build would have cost around 5k some years ago but that's business.
And then of course we should try to support brands that support the sport, have some racing teams, do trail building and sponsor cool stuff instead of leaving riders in the dirt every other year (hint hint)
  • 41 0
 Great, now i'll have to add another sticker to the back of my car to describe what kind of life I live along with the whole stick family.
  • 6 2
 This snappy bike will snap so no need for new stickers
  • 11 6
 my favorite counter sticker..."nobody gives a f*ck about your stick figure family".
  • 7 1
 @jason475: my favorite is the T-Rex eating the family “Your stick figure family was delicious”
  • 2 1
 @dirtnapped: lol
  • 5 0
 I like the stars wars version of the family getting blown up by tie fighters and ATAT walkers, “the empire doesn’t care about your stick figure family.”
  • 27 0
 @jason475: I don't know whats worse. Getting stick family stickers or being anti stick enough to get a sticker .
  • 42 1
 Who the f**** gives the weight in size S??
  • 19 2
 Short people?
  • 38 0
 Marketing managers
  • 5 0
 Is it because the tall riders can lift heavy things
  • 1 0
 Yeah... they list the weight of the Small frame/bike and also include those ridiculous XC tires (rear and front) on this and the regular Izzo, so they can market low weights.
  • 1 0
 Yer size small! “Small” is the only rider who will like the Sid up front
  • 30 0
 I don't know about the rest of you, but I also lock my brakes at full speed to skid out in every direction when going down steep terrain. My friends tell me that it makes me look cooler.
  • 22 1
 Its is also great trail maintenance technique
  • 1 8
flag jesselove (Jan 4, 2022 at 14:44) (Below Threshold)
 I'm seriously. What was that?

Try that on my trail, Euroschmuck.
  • 5 0
 @jesselove: that nice roosty goodness in all your handmade berms. That full on brake and skid technique makes hero dirt wherever you go
  • 12 1
 Bearded, tattoed men high on caffeine giving a rats arse about trail etiquette. That's the YT way.
  • 3 0
 I also cringed with the amount of effort he was putting in pedaling out of the saddle in like half of the video, like was he even having fun?
  • 21 1
 “Hey Marcus, you got some spray paint and axs stuff laying around? I’ve got a great idea….”

Mike Hunt: Marketing director of YT
  • 11 1
 Haha you said mike hunt. Mike hunt. Mike hunt
  • 20 0
 Aren't all YTs limited edition?
  • 2 0
 Gotta get those limited edition replacement parts!
  • 2 0
 @4thflowkage: promotion valid while supplies last. Not valid in California, Alaska and Lichtenstein.
  • 13 0
 He seemed sad at the end of the vid??? Did he forget to turn his STRAVA on before his ride?
  • 30 19
 Who would want less travel here?
  • 51 11
 People who want to find the limit more often (ie the fun zone).
  • 30 0
 because the SID fork only comes in 120mm - and if you want a lightweight Rockshox/sram build, thats what you are getting. Seems a bit of a fudge, but it brings it into line with the obvious competitor the Spur.
  • 29 122
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jan 4, 2022 at 7:08) (Below Threshold)
 Agreed, short travel doesn't vibe well with skulls, guns, bad tatts, Trump, and misogyny.
  • 13 65
flag Patrick9-32 (Jan 4, 2022 at 7:12) (Below Threshold)
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Don't forget rampant homophobia!!
  • 40 6
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Everything you see is racist, your forums are proof.
  • 16 0
 people who want less travel
  • 3 2
 @Adamrideshisbike: The "Fun Zone" is definitely quicker to find on a shorter travel bike. Smile
  • 6 73
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jan 4, 2022 at 7:24) (Below Threshold)
 @BikesNRussets: Everything I see is racist? Even though I don't even mention race or racism in my blog critical of YT?⬇️⬇️⬇️ Ok.

www.pinkbike.com/u/DoubleCrownAddict/blog/yt-marketing-the-most-offensive-mysogynist-violent-pro-trump-company-in-bicycle-history.html
  • 43 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Not this again
  • 8 4
 @DoubleCrownAddict: noooooo, keep this just on forums!
  • 34 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: your obsession over YT is disturbing
  • 50 8
 @DoubleCrownAddict: ahhh, there you are... Hadn't seen you haunting the comment sections for a while. At least your true to form.. But incase anyone hasnt told you in while.... f*ck off!

Happy new year, ya tardnugget.
  • 10 2
 As this was filmed in Surrey I would say that 120mm is about right for 90% of trails..
  • 10 0
 I opted for less travel and love it
  • 10 48
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jan 4, 2022 at 8:10) (Below Threshold)
 @OlSkoolJake: Canadian, why are you so offended and insulting me? There is nothing untruthful it inaccurate in my blog, it's all facts. Find one sentance that's not factual and I'll delete it.

But you would rather just react as a loyal YTrash owner rather than face the facts about your brand.
  • 24 16
 @DoubleCrownAddict: how depressed and empty is your life that you still have to take shots at an ex-president? I also often find it's the people that cry racism/sexism/misogyny/call stuff gay, are themselves the biggest bigots/racists/incels. you're the classic self hating gay just in a new hat.
  • 15 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: I insult you because we don't like crazy talk, stinking up the comment sections of PB. You're the definition of delusional. Show us support from others on this topic outside of your own mind, there isn't. Go back to vigorously mistreating to your own blog posts. Also I'm most certainly not a YT fan boy.
  • 6 1
 *masturbating
  • 3 0
 @mattlewismedia: The best ones are in the 10% category
  • 2 31
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jan 4, 2022 at 9:01) (Below Threshold)
 @OlSkoolJake: You don't need to update the internet with the fact that you are masturbating, that's gross.

There is support for my YTrash blog on the comments of the blog, plus these articles are YT marketing represents sexism. Also good to see that you are completely and utterly incapable of finding anything not factual in my blog.

singletrackworld.com/2016/03/who-or-what-is-jeffsy-whatever-it-is-its-not-for-women


parkcitymountainbike.com/i-hate-jeffsy
  • 11 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: your mom wants you get off mindcraft and clean her basement that you reside in.
  • 11 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: she is also sick of washing your crunchy gym socks.
  • 33 1
 Can we ban this guy and get waki back
  • 9 8
 @DoubleCrownAddict: gearing your marketing towards young men who comprise the majority of your market share isn't sexism, it's effective marketing to your identified demographic. do you think the NBA is racist for hiring predominately black athletes, or do you think there is a profit motive influencing that decision?
  • 7 5
 @DoubleCrownAddict: your boyfriend said to just give you a spanking and send you home to your mums basement, that you have missed at least one of your shock therapy treatments
  • 12 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: or, YT is run by a bunch of corny 40 year olds trying way too hard.

You need to find a way to work in that YT doesn’t care about the environment and you will get on the front page immediately. Like maybe find a connection that the skull means they fed used carbon frames to an endangered whale killing it. The lightening bolt means all their electricity comes from burning coal and they leave the lights on all day!
  • 14 2
 @wibblywobbly: nobody here really cares about sustainability if it means they're going to have to settle on their preferences or be inconvenienced. let's face it even if you actually use slave labor to make your products, people will still buy it because of their need for the latest Nikes or Apple product. I bet even double crown addict is putting all this self righteous bs online via his corporate sanctioned/slave labor produced smart phone. so woke.
  • 7 2
 @Caligula1620: yup. They always project. Always.
  • 6 2
 @mm732: seems like I caused some unwanted self awareness for some of them, oh well.
  • 9 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict: hey brah..nobody cares about your blog. f*cking journo. This is 2022 we just want to ride bikes and have fun.
  • 6 1
 @Adamrideshisbike: agreed, I just went from 140 to 120. Not as shredy as I thought was. Been really fun to scare myself and polish up on what 20mm of travel was hiding.
  • 2 1
 @wibblywobbly: haha, that made me chuckle
  • 1 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Actually it does. Just not in the context of bikes.
  • 4 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: call me crazy, but I want my bike's limit to be higher than mine. Twanging off the bump stops isn't fun.
  • 1 0
 @AyJayDoubleyou: 120 I only have 60 right now , this surely will blow my mind
  • 3 0
 @Caligula1620: I saw a documentary about this once it was called white men cant jump but he could
  • 1 1
 @wibblywobbly: My brain hurts thinking you've triggered conspiracy theorists to believe this statement
  • 3 13
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jan 4, 2022 at 14:58) (Below Threshold)
 @Noeserd: Check out my blog on Waki, it has some of his best drawings and worst quotes.

Looks like I offended some YTrash Snowflakes❗⚜️
  • 2 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: 200mm is the fun zone
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer: not where I live Frown
  • 1 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: ;(
  • 1 0
 @Mntneer:

What if you live in Midwest US?

200mm seems like the least amount of fun.

Not that I’d live there…
  • 7 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict:

Don't flatter yourself.

You can't win.
  • 2 0
 @mattlewismedia: Come on - you need an ebike with at least 160mm travel (and a full face helmet) to be able to ride anything round here…..
  • 7 0
 @suspended-flesh: Imagine making a blog, on a MTB media site, about another website user...
  • 2 0
 @suspended-flesh: but you should still check out my blog
  • 11 1
 YT: We put an XC shock and fork on trail frame and boillat! Downcountry!
  • 2 1
 Undersize a trail bike for aggressive XC??
Isn’t the best idea, in terms of innovation IMHO. They adapt a robust frame with lightweight parts, and probably it works, but, nothing new here... the HA is steeper, the bike maintain the same kinematics, and the frame could be a little overweighted for XC, and for 2022 over 66 is outdated I guess
Plus, the suspension kinematics has been designed for trail riding, not for hours of smashing pedals
RM and TR have changed the scene... YT, nice try but it doesn't seem like anything new to me
  • 5 0
 What the heck is boillat??
  • 1 0
 @mammal: voilà ... autocorrect
  • 5 0
 @mammal: It's like ganibganob, but with a little more oooomph.
  • 7 0
 I think it's cool to have a lightweight, short travel build for the Izzo, but it's such a limited run with AXS doodads running up the price that it's basically irrelevant.
  • 5 0
 From the YT jargon-hype on the website: "The IZZO UNCAGED 7 is completely devoid of any superfluous grams (even the brake levers are made of carbon)"

It has a (heavy) AXS dropper and a dual-control suspension lockout (which they deleted from previous models because it was prone to problems and borderline "superfluous").
  • 9 2
 I still don’t understand the steep seat angles on short travel XC bikes.
  • 1 0
 In this case its because the seatangle steepens when you put a short Fork on a Trailbike. This is just an Izzo with different parts not a new frame or something.
  • 2 0
 @JustMaffin: If you subtract the half degree that running 120 vs 130 entails, it’s still too steep to make any sense to me. I get steep seat angles on long travel bikes, where they sink into the rear travel on steep climbs, but an xc bike is going to less sag as percentage, have less travel to start, and in this case, might be locked out.

Did femurs suddenly shrink while I wasn’t looking?
  • 1 0
 @hllclmbr: I meant its not a dedicated XC frame. this is a Trailbike in XC disguise and for a 130mm trailbike the seatangle is ok imo.
  • 5 1
 Just curious why everyone loves yt so much? What's the hype all about? I don't see anything special about their bikes but they sell out almost instantly and yt owners act like they're in some elite club.
  • 1 0
 Doesnt that apply to most if not all bike brands?
  • 1 0
 @JustMaffin: I find it's more common with YT. People just get really excited about them
  • 2 0
 @ThunderChunk: If I remember correctly the former owner of YT stated in an Interview that they spend alot for marketing. A marketing campaign for a new YT bike costs as much as the development of the bike. Weird prioritys IMO
  • 5 0
 Did he get the KOM? How does it pedal while seated, or is that not allowed?
  • 6 0
 He didn't even sit on the seat when he stopped at the top, lol. Is it me, or is YT becoming kind of a joke?
  • 5 0
 Limited Edition* (*these are the only parts we could get our hands on)
  • 5 0
 Dare say they were 'Spurred' on with this design
  • 1 0
 The weight (11.4kg) is actually pretty underwhelming for those components… My Epic Evo (L, non-sworks) weighs 10.4kg in similar configuration and with XT pedals (not that light). And with Manitou R7 Pro fork which is more than 100g heavier than SID Ultimate.
  • 2 0
 The Epic Evo frame is one of the lightest on the market.

The Izzo: not so much.
  • 1 0
 Really not a fan of the build names... Core, Blaze, Uncaged, BLAZE UNCANGED. A Core 4 sounds.. not good? Some other manufacturers go the other way with the 1 being the best. But I guess it isn't sexy to have "Good, Better, Best" as your names Razz
  • 4 1
 Translation: by saying the word "limited," we think we can get away with charging almost $2,000 more for the bike.
  • 4 0
 YT trolling everyone, big Ebike teaser and then ....
  • 1 0
 Question on Sidluxe tune.
Since it only has rebound adjustment and lock/unlock switch.
When unlocked, what kind of compression damping does it set to? Some value appropriate for "average" rider? Full open?
  • 1 0
 Idk but that sid charger damper is NOT tunable. Piston is pressed on and impossible to remove without damaging.
  • 3 0
 You know it would be cool if they didn’t shaft you on a large frame bike. I want 170mm crankset and 170mm seat post.
  • 1 0
 Currency exchange in pricing is curious. Starting from EUR the USD price is $500 under what it should be and the CAD price is higher by $500... are they covering tariffs or maybe hedging on exchange?
  • 1 0
 EUR prices are always with VAT
  • 1 0
 @JustMaffin: Makes sense for the EUR-USD conversion. But that would make the CAD price even more inflated, as our VAT is added afterward. CAD should be EUR less VAT add tariffs x exchange.
  • 3 0
 Wil have to Uncage my wallet for that one
  • 2 0
 I can't wait to see the promotional video they launch with the Mob! Oh, wait..
  • 3 0
 Bummer that the don't sell frame only
  • 1 0
 That bright yellow is a definite no go for me.
  • 1 0
 @generictrailrider: it will have one of those bright colours may fade in direct sunlight stickers, first thing i look for
  • 5 2
 Stop mounting rear shocks upside down.
  • 3 0
 First why not? Second to have to in order to have lockout unless you want a cable moving all over the place though the travel.
  • 4 1
 @mfoga: air can on top keeps the seals and shaft lubed because the oil sits on the seals. Air can on bottom, oil sits at the bottom as well.
  • 6 1
 Forks are inverted the wrong way too... right?
  • 3 0
 @ThexAveragexJoe: Forks aren't without their problems, but it seems like they handle this a little better.

My hunch is that the pressure behind the seal on the shock demands better sealing which is aided by better oil presence.

@harryhood: My anecdotal experience says this is a good observation. If given the option, why not have the oil settling on the seal rather than away from it? And also, with air can shrader valves usually at the eyelet of the shock, it is easier to check and adjust pressure without losing valuable amounts of oil when the oil isn't sitting f*&^^&&* IN that channel. Upside down shocks are silly. If it's lockout cables that are concern - just orient the stop at 6:00 and run a small bit of extra cable to take up slack during travel. It actually results in a less aggressive entry angle and better lockout lever actuation anyway.
  • 1 1
 @Upduro:

My Top Fuel has the shock “upside down” and I definitely have to pull the shock apart and lube everything far more frequently than on my other bikes.
  • 3 0
 @Upduro: But wouldn't having the part of the shock moving vs the heavy part of the shock moving be an advantage? Again if you run a remote you want the cable moving the body through the travel?
  • 1 0
 @mfoga: THIS!
If you look at the sprung/unsprung mass of the rear shock, the orientation used here is the correct one.
And yes, the remote cable would move the whole time if the shock would be the other way round, whereas like this it is perfectly still during the ride.
The lubrication of the seals is not an issue, as the seals are not lubricated (in the first place), but greased, when the shock is assembled. The grease stays in place anyway. The lubrication inside is meant for the inner seals and the shaft moving inside the shock, so there would be no effect to the seals, regardless of the orientation of the shock. Every regular, non-inverted fork works the same.
  • 1 0
 @Morrrice: The air sleeve has oil in it that migrates to the seals and continues to do so through use. Yes, they are greased initially, but the oil inside provides lasting affect. This does still happen with an upside down shock but not as well.
  • 3 0
 Is it not Ultraboost 166mm? Sorry can't buy it.
  • 1 0
 Good spec w wheels, AXS dropper and other parts. Heard too many problems with Rock Shox suspension. Put Fox on it and I would be a buyer
  • 1 0
 YT: We are OUT on World Cup DH....

Also YT: Here is are MOST XC BIKE EVER!

A bit of a head scratcher... Maybe Nino needs to take note haha
  • 1 0
 Are folks seeking out short-travel bikes, or just buying whatever's left in the otherwise empty cupboard?

No answer is needed, it's more a query.
  • 2 0
 Ride your bikes dudes Wink Too many text here Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Also if somebody could 3D print me some chainstay protectors that cover up the entire thing on my Jeffsy that'd be great.
  • 5 0
 Black tape.
  • 3 1
 Could you imagine needing a remote lock out on a 120mm frame?
  • 6 0
 It's for use when XC racing, I assume.
  • 9 0
 Nah. That’s why I took them off of my Top Fuel. I didn’t even use the lockouts riding pavement to the trailhead.
  • 1 1
 I can save you 10 pedal strokes and 3 seconds on a 10 mile ride
  • 1 0
 @hllclmbr: I don't disagree with you, but I bet a lot of XC racers like to have the remote and get a little thrill out of using it.
  • 2 0
 @chakaping: 'tis true. Lockouts are pointless when sitting in the saddle and spinning up to the top of the trail.

If you're out of the saddle and racing, especially for short sharp climbs, a lockout is well worth it
  • 2 0
 @HankHank: yes, this. In a race, you need to drop your opponent on the short sharp climb so they can't profit from your slipstream on the flat part that follows. This is when the tiny gains of a remote lockout pay off. It is also why they can be found on tons of bikes that will never be raced. They are aimed at the crowds that believe that what pro racers use is good for them too.
  • 2 0
 @HankHank: Course, corner, and race dependent - of course.

I race XCM, generally get top 10ish, despite my 50 revolutions around the Sun, and see no benefit in remote lockouts. If I did a lot of short track racing, my opinion might differ.

If that short sharp corner is also loose and/or rough, then the advantage goes to open suspension.
  • 1 0
 @hllclmbr: he said climbs, not corners. I hardly do official racing but using a lockout in a corner seems odd to me. Unless you have the skills to engage it just at the right moment after coming out of the corner just before you get back on the pedals without affecting steering.
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 @ak-77: I misread it as switchback climbs, which are generally speaking, the steepest pitches, but my points still stand.

Lockouts aren’t worth much, the longer a race is.
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 @hllclmbr: if you look at the benchmarks for long distance racing, eg the Cape and Swiss Epics, I can't find a bike on the podium in the last 5 years that doesn't have a manual lockout or automated one (eg the Brain).

I'll stop there as more lycra-based chat will get us chased out of here with pitchforks, but in response to the OP, if it's good enough for Nino Schurter...
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 @HankHank: Sure, sponsored racers run lockouts, but that doesn’t make them worthwhile, as far as results go.

Do you think NS wouldn’t be on the podium if his bike didn’t have remote lockouts?
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 @hllclmbr: We would probably never have heard of Nino if it wasn't for Scott's weird obsession with providing remotes for everything.
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 look at the spec and spot the intruder (hint: look at the cassette)
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 I was thinking that is a great price for an AXS/DT Swiss bike and might consider it....then the press fit BB at the bottom and now no way.
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 Lol came here for the comments not gonna lie
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 2022 is the year of the yellow. Everything is yellow, bikes, jackets, etc. I didn't get the memo.
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 Coldplay have so much to answer for
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 @Compositepro: Bingo. Some sent a memo with the Yellow song and video to everyone. I just watched the video and really want to buy some yellow stuff now.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY
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 whers the team announcements? its 2022 already for a shile cant wait! or are they all shocked frozen by nekos big bang nws
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 Dang a ceo with a brain that didn't copy another brands high pivot
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 YT testing out the "down country" market.
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 I missed the cycling cap and the after ride craft beer in the video...
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  Harder, better, faster, cheaper.. oh no..
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 Why though?
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 please don't make neon a "thing" again... x(
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 The industry likes to recycle itself. Just thank the sky man that we didn't have the red and black over white phase from 2010 first...
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 As a 90's kid, I disagree. Bring bank the bonkers, bright and weird paint jobs. Or at least offer some more custom options like Trek.
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 @ajaxwalker:

I noticed Trek had “splatter” paint on one of their 2022 stock bikes.

That’s pretty old school.
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 Please don't let 'specced' become a thing. And please let spec appear only in the singular--think of all the s that could be conserved
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 You are boring, neon rules!
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 @ajaxwalker: that new SC mega??tower in lime green with link accents...
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 Looks like a Trek or a Transition, thank you but I may pass on this one
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 can't stop staring at that horrible tiger shin tattoo lol. poor kitty.
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 Can you compare it to the Spur? The only relevant downcountry question.
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 Less travel, more money. Might as well put some drop bars on it too.
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 Next step of shortage A full made front mounting a bar instead of the rear suspension The new standard The joke full!
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 Yeah now every bike company wants to have a XC bike Big Grin
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 out of stock
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 Face tattoos are stupid
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 Looks like a...
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 This just missed the Down Country test. Would have been a great contender.
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 $75 hundos? Really? 75hundos. What the shit.
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 Those are some high revving legs.
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 Too bad yt sucks to deal with
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 It looks a lot like a 2017 Slayer
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 Holy expensive.. Lol
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 Aaaaand it’s sold out.
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 Nope. Nobody willing to pay that much for a bike with a garbage fork I think…
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 stupid. no thanks
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 Slalom bike, anyone?
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 yea a slalom bike with 29 inch wheels sounds so great
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 @peterfoley5: Nahhhh a slalom bike with 24”.
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 @BikesNRussets: Sure... just reduce the travel to make it downcountry... so just reduce the wheel diameter to make it slolom.
Just keep reducing it and we'll have another mini bike video (which was awesome this year by the way!)
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