Jamis Introduces New Carbon Portal and Hardline Models

Feb 12, 2020 at 12:33
by Jamis Bikes  
Hardline C1: $8499 USD

Press Release: Jamis Bikes

It’s been just over one year since the launch of the Portal 130mm 29” and Hardline 160mm 27.5” bike models featuring the revolutionary 3VO suspension platform. As innovative additions to our full-suspension offerings, Portal and Hardline represented an evolution from well-seasoned single-pivot designs to an original, finely-tuned dual-link arrangement. As a 3VO bike progresses through its travel, the instant center (or virtual pivot) remains behind the bottom-bracket while tracing the chain line, resulting in a ride that completely isolates pedaling forces from bump forces. This attribute combined with a multi-stage leverage ratio produces a zero-compromise, exceptionally capable system.

For 2020 we've taken the 3VO design a step further by adding carbon models to the mix. Our in-house design team has reduced frame weight by more than 2 pounds using Jamis’ proven Dyad Pro hi-modulus carbon as a frame material, marking a significant improvement to an already outstanding platform.


Hardline C2: $6499 USD

Hardline C3: $4699 USD



Portal C1: $8499 USD

Portal C2: $6499 USD

Portal C3: $4699 USD



Both Portal and Hardline models will be available in three carbon and two aluminum price-points each, along with frameset options for custom builds. All models are in stock now and ready to ship.

For more information on Portal and Hardline and the 3VO suspension system please visit: www.jamis3vo.com


136 Comments

  • 202 3
 You can pay 8500 for a Jamis. What a time to be alive
  • 25 1
 This^^^. It’s just painful to realize that $8K and north is the average price for a high end bicycle. Jamis used to be the bargain brand. When in Rome......
  • 42 2
 @tracer2:...bang Caligula?
  • 3 1
 They look nice but price a bit silly , Jamis stepping everything way up.
  • 5 2
 @tracer2: I wouldn’t say $8k is average price. This seems like it’s pushing into boutique brand pricing, crazy.
  • 23 0
 Seem's like an odd move from a brand position perspective. They've always been known for one thing (no-nonsense, solid bikes on a budget), now they want the market to ignore all that and embrace $8k amongst a field of relatively proven bikes from successful brands that do command a premium? I'm probably wrong, but it feels like a tough sell. Sorry to say it, I think they make a good product however If I had that much to spend tomorrow, Jamis doesn't even make my top 10 list.
  • 5 1
 Maybe, yes. They also just released a pretty solid budget bike called the Faultline. Bikes for everyone!
  • 3 2
 Gotta generate enough cash flow to support ebike development and extensive marketing...
  • 5 2
 @Hyakian: Jamis still has some good budget bikes for the price so how can you say they are ignoring that philosophy? All they are trying to do by marketing high end top spec bikes is compete with other brands in that niche.

Specialized sells bikes for 13k. Mediocre companies like Giant sell bikes for over 10k just so they can pose as top end brands, so Jamis selling a bike for 8k is fine by me.
  • 5 1
 For 2011 geo numbers?
  • 4 0
 8.5k with Stan's wheels? You 'outcho mind.
  • 2 0
 @tracer2: ...do as The Vandals!
  • 6 1
 You could get 2 Ibis Ripmo AFs, SLX builds, 1 air, 1 coil, and have change leftover?
  • 1 0
 @headshot: Here's an upvote.
  • 2 0
 @ButtermilkBar: I didn't intend to imply that they are ignoring that, what I am saying is that this is what they are known and accepted for as a brand, not expensive, top tear/dentist bikes.
  • 40 1
 A regressive bike with a coil shock sounds like maybe not the best idea
  • 14 2
 the kinematics makes no sense with coil or even air.... built for dentists
  • 23 0
 I am genuinely curious about these bikes. The alloy versions also. That's something that has never crossed my mind about another Jamis bike before, so good on Jamis on this generation of bikes.

Has anyone ridden either alloy or carbon versions? It's hard to find a lot of info.
  • 7 0
 I've talked to a few people that have ridden it and really love it. The few reviews that there are have been pretty positive. I hope Jamis manages to get these bikes in the hands of more reviewers this time around.
  • 5 0
 I used to work for a dealer and demo'd the hardline a few times after work and I gotta say it was pretty sick. The suspension platform made for a decent climber and it still ripped down hill super well. Only downside is the reach was a bit short for me but I'm a monster (6ft 4) so thats just me.
  • 3 0
 I did a short demo lap on the Portal and was pretty happy with the performance. However this was a more XC loop + chunky rocks. So pedals well, smoothes slow speed stuff well, but I have no idea about high speed performance.
  • 3 24
flag Shafferd912 (Feb 12, 2020 at 14:31) (Below Threshold)
 I havent ridden anything this new, but my friend had a Darkar AMT expert, and it kinda sucked. Way more worth it to buy a good name brand.
  • 8 0
 @Shafferd912: well that's the thing, these new bikes look nothing like the older bikes. They are entirely new beasts.
  • 6 12
 @roma258: no way you actually know "a few people" who have ridden this bike... i bet not even 2 haha
  • 14 2
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: I live in Philly. Their headquarters are less than 2 hours away. It's not exactly hard to get a demo ride or see one in the wild around here. But you know better, apparently.
  • 4 2
 It was designed by Chris Currie. It’ll be good. Dude knows his stuff and has been around for a long long time. Head of Notubes marketing. Owned Speedgoat.com. Regardless of what name is on the downtube, you should be stoked for the tech if it is his pen that inked it.
  • 2 0
 @usedbikestuff: I'm legit interested in the susp design! It's just the geo and price....
  • 3 0
 1.5 years ago I took the hardline to Bailey bike park and to my local trails. It was super sweet, like really good. I loved the geo and the rear end was super tacky and I never felt bottom out although I hit it at least once.
  • 3 0
 I own and ride the Hardline A1 from last year. It has enduro geometry but rides like a trail bike. I like it so much I'm considering the Portal carbon as my trail bike despite the less than stellar geometry.
  • 13 0
 I don't know about you guys, but the Hardline C2 seems like a much better value than the C1. 2k more for a fox factory seat post and a DHX2??? And XX1 cassette and derailleur isn't really "much" better than the XO1 on the C2.

Overall they all seem a bit expensive.
  • 3 0
 The photos don't show it, but the C1 also has carbon rims (but same hubs). So it makes a bit more sense.
  • 14 1
 and they didn't update the geo before going carbon. too short and sta too slack. the 29er leaves no room to upfork so squarely in the trail category. if it's a decent platform then release a longer travel 29er version. interesting design tho, i'm not against it. a backwards dw-link with and extra linkage thrown in for fun.
  • 6 21
flag scottyrides5 (Feb 12, 2020 at 14:11) (Below Threshold)
 The fork on the C2 is a factory 34. On the C1, it is a factory 36. C1 also has carbon rims and Magura brakes. So really it has more upgrades than you mentioned. Choose the one you like and don't even ride it though. Or better yet, don't even buy it. It's all the same. Just be a dick. It's better. Then tell people how you ride sometimes while being a dick. They will understand.
  • 8 0
 @scottyrides5: I'd get your facts straight/eyes checked before attempting to insult someone.

C1: Fox 36 Factory FIT4
DHX2 Factory
Stans Flow CM7 Carbon wheels with Neo hubs
XX1 cassette, derailleur, shifter and chain
Fox Factory dropper
TRP G Spec DH brakes

C2: Fox 36 Factory FIT4
DPX2 Factory
Stans Flow wheels with Neo hubs
X01 cassette, derailleur, shifter and chain
Raceface dropper
Magura MT7 brakes

Everything else is identical on the bikes.

Since you mentioned Magura brakes were an "upgrade" as well (which I agree with), then you just proved my point even more that the C2 is a much better buy.
  • 18 2
 @WasatchEnduro: agreed.. Geo is pretty dated given the cost of these.
  • 9 0
 @Ryan2949: Scotty doesn't know
  • 2 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Agreed. Susp looks interesting, just want diff builds or lower prices. For $200 more I can get a Nukeproof Mega Factory build, loaded with Fact sus, DT Swiss wheels and full XT!
  • 1 4
 @gnarnaimo: Apparently
  • 3 20
flag scottyrides5 (Feb 12, 2020 at 15:18) (Below Threshold)
 @Ryan2949: Your right, I was mistaken and referring to the Portal. But wow, you sure went full dick. I expect an apology.
  • 8 0
 @scottyrides5: you’re hysterical!
  • 4 1
 @scottyrides5: not like you deserve one buddy
  • 2 6
flag scottyrides5 (Feb 12, 2020 at 20:54) (Below Threshold)
 @TheSlayer99: Thanks bud. So where we goin for dinner?
  • 3 2
 @scottyrides5: just stop, you’re not doing yourself any favors
  • 1 5
flag scottyrides5 (Feb 13, 2020 at 11:51) (Below Threshold)
 @TheSlayer99: C'mon guys this is too much. I'm stuffed. Trolls can only eat so much at a time. Yet they keep feeding...
  • 15 0
 Selling bikes step 1: add the longest cables and brake lines you can find.

Step 2: take pictures

Step 3: PROFIT!!!
  • 1 0
 The fork must be a 80% sag.
  • 6 0
 They're obviously marketing these towards buyers who do barspins
  • 8 0
 Kind of seems like they missed the mark. Geo is dated and the builds are pricey. The FS market is full of really good bikes from a lot of trusted manufacturers. If Jamis wanted to throw their hat in the ring and attract riders who don't usually ride Jamis, this does not seem the way to go about it. We're likely going to see Salsa do the same thing this year (break into the big travel market), but I think they will be better poised to win over some of the riders that typically gravitate toward other brands.
  • 6 0
 Aesthetics are ok if a little busy, and the suspension may well work ok, but if they're serious they needed to add 20mm to the reach, 2deg to the sta, and lop 2deg off the hta. That geo is from 4 years ago. Just sayin'...
  • 6 1
 All the complaints about value, geometey, supposed quality issues, and the brand not being Bro enough to ask for boutique money, but only a handful can attest to riding one and those peeps seem to be positive on the ride. I like different and hope Jamis gets some traction if the suspension works well. A youtube couple were riding these in alloy before switching sponsors. The bikes didn't seem to hold anyone back. As stated above, hopefully Jamis gets the bikes into the hands of more reviewers.
  • 2 0
 I'm open minded, the susp design looks interesting. I think we're all just a little shocked they're trying to come out of nowhere and ask for that kind of dough... (not literally out of nowhere. i know them, I used to have one! They're just not major league.)
  • 4 0
 "Our in-house design team has reduced frame weight by more than 2 pounds"

That is a huge difference in frame weight alloy vs carbon. Most other manufacturers are around 1-1.5 lbs lighter frame weight alloy vs carbon. Me thinks their alloy stuff is really built on the sturdy side of things.
  • 1 0
 I was thinking the same. I wonder how much weight a carbon link would save, or maybe that's exactly where they are saving all this weight. Not sure.
  • 2 0
 I’ve got one of their Aluminum Portals, can confirm that thing is a tank. It rips though, super happy with it.
  • 1 0
 Their frames don’t have a reputation for being sturdy
  • 1 0
 @bwgemmil: I wouldn't be surprised if they overcorrected and went super burly with the new line.
  • 9 1
 The marketing BS is strong with this one...
  • 4 12
flag sundaydoug (Feb 12, 2020 at 14:25) (Below Threshold)
 Or it's written by someone with a ton of ride-time on one of these bikes and knows exactly how good the design is.
  • 14 1
 @sundaydoug:
"featuring the revolutionary 3VO suspension platform"
"a ride that completely isolates pedaling forces from bump forces"
"This attribute combined with a multi-stage leverage ratio produces a zero-compromise, exceptionally capable system."
"Jamis’ proven Dyad Pro hi-modulus carbon"
"marking a significant improvement to an already outstanding platform."

All that in 2 paragraphs.
  • 4 8
flag sundaydoug (Feb 12, 2020 at 16:08) (Below Threshold)
 @tgent: Not all marketing talk is necessarily BS. Try to reserve judgement until you've ridden it. Spec/build is personal preference, but the design is legit.
  • 5 1
 @sundaydoug: a regressive leverage curve on a coil shock is legit? Your drunk.
  • 4 0
 I've been riding the aluminum Portal for a year set up with coil at both ends and it works really really well. It's definitely not light but it will go up and down anything. Worth a test ride for sure.
  • 1 1
 But worth paying premium price @ retail?
  • 2 0
 @jimeg: The aluminum Portal goes for like $3k.
  • 8 1
 Ain’t nobody got time for this ...
  • 2 0
 LMAO.
  • 4 1
 A bunch of jersey boys with crayons and construction paper outsourcing everything, pretending to be both Boutique and Major at the same time. uggh, I'd would say they should just stick to their strong suit with steel hardtails but my Dragonslayer was such a disappointment. Customer service is only as good as the mood they are in that day.
  • 7 1
 Now we wait for seat angle complainers.
  • 16 0
 @porDIOS-porSANTO Seat angle complainer here reporting for duty.
  • 4 0
 You rang?
  • 6 0
 Damn Jamis! making some rubber necking lookers! Sharp looking bikes!
  • 4 0
 Bikes are gonna be hitting the 20k mark by 2030. Entry level will start at 5k...
  • 3 0
 I don't know. Have you seen the value you get at the opening price point full sus bikes these days? The Norco fluid and Marin hawk hill are insane for the money. A few years ago, bikes of the sameish price had coil forks, no dropper posts, 3x drivetrains and then youd get a brand like giant or specialized (who have decent suspension designs!) slap their name on the side of the bike with a different, worse suspension design.
  • 1 0
 @j-t-g: Norco and Marin entry-level builds punch way over their weight class.
  • 7 2
 And the geo is only 3 years behind! Next.
  • 4 3
 Exactly. I cringed when I saw that head tube angle on the portal
  • 3 0
 @JLastra: don't look at the STA then
  • 1 0
 Or the reach
  • 1 0
 @JLastra: whats the matter with it?
  • 1 0
 @jaydawg69: i already cringed at that...
  • 2 0
 @Uchwmdr: I guess I’m more excited about more aggressive angles. To be fair though, that’s not the case for everyone.
  • 1 0
 @JLastra: being taller i really enjoy the improved climbing position in regards to the steep seat angle..
  • 1 0
 It would be cool to see a behind the numbers analysis on this suspension design. The aluminum version seems too heavy. The carbon version seems too expensive. The suspension design looks interesting. It could sell well if the other figures to fit.
  • 3 0
 Suspension vidéo slowmo needed!!! Curious to know more never Heard of these bikes!
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: I take it there is patent costs pushing up price of this bike?
  • 4 0
 First Jamis I have ever seen that I liked the look of tho.
  • 4 0
 i'm just upset about the crank arm placement in all their photos...
  • 1 0
 Jamis is known for quality decent priced bikes. I guess with these two, they are breaking into the boutique bike category. Must be a good thing.
  • 2 0
 I agree with your first sentence. I used to ride a Jamis and it was quite a good bike and a reasonable price! This seems like they think they can become a top tier brand simply by asking for the same money... Hmmm....I guess that's one strategy.
  • 3 0
 @mybaben: I'm just guessing here. However, I think if price-jacking will boost their reputation, they are in for a surprise.
  • 1 0
 @RayDolor: Agreed.
  • 1 0
 Where I'm from they were known for cracking and nothing else. Haven't seen one in years now.
  • 2 0
 The Santa Cruz Heckler EBike starts to look better and better, even its $10k price!
  • 2 0
 Wow bikes are getting expensive. I think I'll just buy a one year old demo bike from someone.
  • 1 0
 I dont think the portal C1 is going to work very well with XT shifters and an xx1 drivetrain...
  • 2 1
 Who are they making these bikes for? Ants? What good is the school if the kids can't fit into the building
  • 2 0
 I'm still upset that Syd and Mackie aren't on Jamis anymore!
  • 1 1
 So the marketing and sales strategy is to price new consumers out of the market and push existing riders into the arms of direct brands?
  • 2 0
 Looks like GT and Yeti collaboration
  • 1 0
 These look really cool. I'm intrigued...
  • 18 1
 But the prices are WACK!
  • 5 0
 @pdxkid: yeah. they have always been a mid-tier brand. maybe they think peeps will like them more if they charge a ton.
  • 3 0
 @pdxkid: The C3 build, with SLX groupset and Fox Float 36 seems fine. The Gucci builds...well not sure who's buying those.
  • 3 1
 @roma258: You'll see a generic looking middle aged white gentleman tootling down the flowiest blue trail in your area on that gucci build.
  • 10 0
 @jayacheess: As someone rapidly approaching generic middle aged white guy status I resemble that remark. I'll have you know I'd be rocking some esoteric one-off brand like Revel or Esker with my hypothetical dentist money.
  • 1 0
 @roma258: When Esker comes out with a 29er I'll be in line right behind you.
  • 1 3
 @bikewriter: It's annoying how many small brands run 27.5 on their long travel rigs. What's that about?
  • 2 0
 Mud collectors?
  • 1 0
 I wonder what RED BULL and the Athertons will think???
  • 1 0
 Sup with that chain guard?
  • 1 0
 They look great. It's really too bad the geometry is 3 years out of date
  • 1 0
 First Jamis I’ve ever seen & said “I’d ride that”
  • 1 0
 2 much money for a Jamis. Good warranty that you'll probably end up using.
  • 1 0
 74 STA? No tall rider is going to like that
  • 1 0
 little throw up color options there
  • 1 0
 DAFUQ, JAMIS your drunk.......
  • 1 0
 Make em in 26” now and get on the wave!
  • 1 0
 Wow sick looking bikes from Jamis.
  • 2 1
 Looks like a Tyee?
  • 1 0
 It doesn't. And if did, the Tyee looks like this bike. It's been out for over a year and the Tyee just got redesigned.
  • 1 0
 @SkullsRoad: You must be fun at parties
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: Ok, I'll just agree with you and be fun.
  • 2 2
 2018 called, they want their 74 degree seat angle back
  • 1 0
 No rockshox option....
  • 1 0
 that's music to my ears
  • 1 0
 They look shite
  • 1 3
 I question your sanity if you are considering these bikes over all the great ones out there.
  • 1 3
 these look like the offshore catalog special for sure.
  • 3 0
 Very far from the truth.....
  • 1 0
 @Speedgoat9: can you give us any insight on how Jamis might build market awareness with the 3VO suspension design? I personally like the asthetics and the idea of a DW, Horst alternative. The hardline looks like a fun bike.
Being 5'4" STA is of an issue for me. I would appreciate any insights you can share. Cheers!
  • 1 0
 @Texicans: sadly I'm not the man behind 3VO. I'm a friend of Chris's for over over 25 years and used to race for him back in the Speedgoat days, hence the username. I do know that Chris is a perfectionist and a tinkerer and worked on the suspension design for over 10 years before it was brought to market. He would never put false claims out there, so I am dying for pinkbike to test one of these @mikekazimer. Even though the geometry isn't as progressive as some of the enduro race sleds today, if the suspension is as good as I hope, and as good as word of mouth is, this may be my next bike as I am over the hill for hardcore racing. Sorry I couldn't help more.

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