Jackalope Bikes' KangaRabbit 150 Uses 3VO Suspension

Oct 25, 2023 at 17:12
by Matt Beer  
Jackalope KangaRabbit 150
The first working prototype with this build here comes in at 34 lb 4 oz.

What do you get when you mix an architectural metal designer with a love for cycling and a dual-link suspension design with bold claims? Jackalope Bikes KangaRabbit 150 of course. Based in Revelstoke, BC, Jack Sutter has been building bikes of all types in his shop since 2020 but his latest creation is a 150mm travel trail bike that mixes new school 3D printed steel bits with CNC’d aluminum frame components.

Jack grew up in Nevada, where he also studied architectural metal design and fabrication. He went on to work at Moment Skis in Reno but then moved north of the border to Whistler in 2018 building the Joyride slopestyle course. Next, he ventured further east in the province where he worked in a local bike shop, gathering market knowledge and hashing out a plan.

In 2022, he incorporated Jackalope Bikes, starting with rigid bikes and then hardtails. Jack always aspired to build a full-suspension frame though. When he learned of [L=https://ministrycycles.com/]Ministry Cycle’s 3VO suspension[/L], he chatted with the creator, Chris Currie, who licensed the technology and went full steam ahead with his goals.

Jackalope KangaRabbit 150
Jackalope KangaRabbit 150
Jack putting the pen to paper, so to speak. The frame weighs a hair under 10 lb but his goal is to drop that number closer to 9 lb.

The KangaRabbit 150 looks to be a promising do-it-all 29er trail bike, capable of spending all summer in the bike park or pedaling long single track miles. The dual-link suspension produces 150mm of rear wheel travel and is mated to a 160mm fork.

In terms of construction, Jack has combined his steel fabrication skills with 3D-printed pieces to form the top tube wishbone and rocker mounts on the 4130 chromoly front triangle. The downtube is a 41.3mm straight gauge to facilitate bending, whereas the top tube is butted. Other pieces, like the 44mm head tube and double-bolted seat tube clamp, have been purchased from Paragon Machine Works.


The rear triangle is completely machined from 7075 series aluminum. Inside the stays, plenty of material has been removed to tune the stiffness and save weight. Only the dropper cable runs internally through the front triangle, although the rear brake line is clamped out of sight, along the inside of the chainstay. Jackalope is also developing its own machined 7005 aluminum swingarm that will provide mixed-wheeled compatibility to the KangaRabbit.

Ministry Cycles 3VO suspension
Ministry Cycles 3VO suspension
Ministry Cycles 3VO suspension

Suspension Design

The 3VO suspension looks well thought out on all fronts, with claims of small bump sensitivity and bottom-out resistance, but no pedal bob in any gear combination. That’s due to a high anti-squat which starts above 130% (based on a 32/50-tooth combination). Then there’s also 100% anti-rise for active suspension under braking that works to preserve the geometry. A low-leverage ratio starts at 3.1 with an axle path that moves rearward for the first 55mm of travel.

Now this suspension type and full rear triangle aren’t exclusive to Jackalope Bikes. Ministry Cycles plans to produce its own frame, however, it still offers the swingarm and linkage kit to other brands that see the 3VO suspension’s benefits.

Geometry

All of that adds to contemporary geometry, like a 64.5-degree head tube angle, 77.7-degree seat tube angle. Two sets of dropouts allow for a tuneable chainstay length of either 435mm or 445mm. As for the reach and stack, those measure in at 485mm and 615mm. That's around most other brands' size large in terms of length, but a touch lower on the vertical distance the bottom bracket and head tube.

Pricing and Specs

Pricing starts at $4,999.99 CAD for the frame with a RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate. Complete packages are being ironed out but begin at $7,599.99 and move up to $8,599. Custom-build options could be littered with components from SRAM/RockShox and We Are One. Jackalope will be taking pre-orders on frame kits and complete builds with plans to ship in the spring of 2024.

All pricing on the Jackalope Bikes website is in Canadian dollars. For US customers, Ministry Cycles will be handling all distribution needs. For further information, you can reach out to Jack via his website, Jackalopebikes.com.

Jackalope KangaRabbit 150
A Jackalope KangaRabbit in the wild.


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92 Comments
  • 88 1
 "The frame weighs a hair under 10 lb but his goal is to drop that number closer to 9 lb."

Given the name of the bike and company, should be "a hare under 10lb"!
  • 31 0
 This is frame + shock by the way, and that’s a good bunny pun!
  • 2 50
flag Fatface56969 (Oct 27, 2023 at 19:29) (Below Threshold)
 Shitface
  • 5 0
 @Fatface56969: is this AI trolling is?
  • 9 0
 A hare under 10lb would actually be more like 3 pounds. I don't think they'll get away with that.
  • 64 1
 Just to be clear, we are using Chis Currie’s swingarm and linkage kit. We bought the kit from Chris aka Speedgoat Designs aka Ministry Cycles.

He is selling these to other approved frame builders as well.

Our version will be the same kinematic made from welded aluminum tube + CNC parts.

Thanks Matt for the publish!
  • 2 0
 Curious on weight differences between rear triangles? Having a steel front triangle at this weight is a big draw, not to mention the suspension design.
  • 1 0
 Since the front triangle is steel is there a possibility of custom sizing and geometry?
  • 1 0
 To the top.
  • 2 0
 Similar to Ventana
  • 12 0
 If it's anything like a kangaroo or rabbit they'll be a million of them within a year. On a serious note, it looks great, I'm lovin' these small volume creations.
  • 3 0
 Tasty though
  • 15 1
 Cool looking bike!
  • 1 0
 Now all it needs before production is non-trunion shock and a tapered or at least provisions for reach headsets
  • 2 0
 @gearbo-x: trunion isn’t so bad
  • 8 0
 very cool! ridden a few Jamis Bikes with this platform (i think they did it first..?)
extremely predictable layout, ultra plush. and it does something special to the drivetrain because it was dead silent!
really Impressed with the 3VO, its right behind a high pivot (i have a claymore) for me.
  • 6 0
 They licensed the design first, yeah
  • 3 0
 for a bit more insight

ministrycycles.com
  • 2 12
flag collintimmermans (Oct 27, 2023 at 15:22) (Below Threshold)
 @onawalk: yeah yeah the ministry is old news LOL!
  • 2 25
flag Fatface56969 (Oct 27, 2023 at 19:28) (Below Threshold)
 @collintimmermans: that's bull shit
  • 2 15
flag Notunormal (Oct 27, 2023 at 19:29) (Below Threshold)
 @Fatface56969: shut it befor i cic ur es
  • 1 28
flag Fatface56969 (Oct 27, 2023 at 19:30) (Below Threshold)
 @Notunormal: you ass hole I am going to pump your eyes shut
  • 11 0
 3v0 suspension looks super interesting
  • 6 0
 Hell yeah, love ya work @jackalopebikes !

I know Jack personally, so I might be a bit biased. But in saying that, I'm confident that if any stranger walked into the Jackalope workshop they'd be thoroughly impressed with what's going on. Jack's attention to detail is something to be admired! Very cool to see someone as highly skilled as Jack following his passion in this sport we all love. Can't wait to see how this all evolves. Good luck @jackalopebikes , how good are bikes!
  • 1 0
 Cheers Tom! Appreciate the kind words from such a great great man!
  • 4 0
 So- this is the same 3VO design as seen on the Jamis Portal and Hardline?
This custom steel + alloy implementation is nicer looking!

I looked up the rear triangle / pivot hardware kit. Props to Ministry for making this available for custom builders.
  • 14 0
 Thanks! Current Jamis bikes are using an earlier version we didn't want to be quite as progressive. This one has only two links, about 30% progression, and should be pretty straightforward for a smaller builders to implement (only have to worry about one section of seat tube that has both pivot bores).
  • 6 0
 So awesome to see Jack doing rad things with metal! Congrats buddy! Keep it rolling!
  • 5 0
 Eff yea! Project Danzig!!
  • 1 0
 Livin' on! Smile
  • 5 0
 Props to anyone with the guts to jump into the fray. Looks pretty sweet.
  • 1 0
 I understand the Jack in Jackalope being a riff on the owner's name, but is there more to it than that? There's the connection to Ministry Cycles, named after a band. Is the owner a fan of Jakalope, perhaps?

Love to see interesting things come out of small BC towns!
  • 3 0
 A jackalope is a mythical creature in the SW US - a jackrabbit with antelope antlers.
  • 1 0
 @lookseasyfromhere: I think you're genuinely trying to be helpful, so thanks on behalf of anyone who might not have known that. I guess I need to explain my question. Knowing that a Jackalope is a mythical animal, I thought it was clever that JACK Sutter named his bike company JACKalope Bikes. I was wondering, though, if there was another layer of cleverness.

Jack Sutter licensed the suspension design from Ministry Cycles. Ministry Cycles took their name from the band, Ministry. I was wondering if the name Jackalope ALSO was a reference to a band; in this case Jakalope.
  • 4 0
 435 or 445 mm chain stay and an external rear brake hose routing - stop throwing so much common sense at a frame design!
  • 3 0
 Also- that single STFU device is an interesting alternative to a typical ribbed rubber CS protector.
  • 4 0
 Works a dream too, its insanely quiet. We will likely use the STFU on the production version
  • 2 0
 One is good but two (the Trail set) is better-er!
  • 4 0
 5k for this frame + shock seems too cheap?
  • 2 0
 stop encouraging them
  • 3 0
 Looks dope. I trust Chris Currie's designs and strong MTB history. Your geometry and lines hit solidly. Love the name too!
  • 3 0
 Seat tube brace is giving me strong GT vibes.
  • 7 4
 Isn't that the linkage that the Ministry Cycles guy developed?
  • 3 0
 I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he allowed this company to use his suspension design to fund his pursuit in making his own frame?
  • 5 0
 Yes! Been following his r&d work on instagram and the guy seems like a really down to earth hardworking fellow. Really nice to see his work here
  • 4 0
 Jackalope licensed it from him
  • 8 0
 Third paragraph + the paragraph under the section heading “Suspension Design”
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: I missed that line. Thanks for pointing it out.
  • 13 0
 Yes, I'm making the 3VO suspension kits are available to framebuilders.
ministrycycles.com/products/3vo-suspension-system-for-custom-builders
  • 7 0
 @SpeedgoatDesigns: That's awesome! It's not every day that a new suspension design comes into the scene. Congrats on your success, and I hope you find more.
  • 3 0
 @SpeedgoatDesigns: that's awesome, props for making it available to frame builders
  • 4 0
 @SpeedgoatDesigns: I went from mailordering a ton of parts to reading this bikerumor.com/exclusive-chris-curries-all-new-full-suspension-design-is-unlike-anything-youve-ever-seen and then nada. Until today.
Way cool!
  • 1 0
 @mattg95: Thanks, yeah, I'd always wished builders had some newer options, like a modern version of the old Ventana system.
  • 2 0
 Love the look and craftmanship! The name scares me a bit and makes me imagine some terrifying rebound characteristics
  • 3 0
 Finally, the 3VO bike Jamis won't make (big 29er)!!!! Hope this does well
  • 4 0
 BEAUTIFUL
  • 2 0
 I'll be jackaloping to that sexy mountain pic later. ❤️
  • 1 0
 Hell yeah Jack! These are looking rad. So cool to see a sketch and an idea turn into something like this.
  • 1 0
 Look similar to the new Commençal kinematic ?
  • 2 0
 They're outside my patent, but similar vibe with the lower link, yep. It can do good things.
  • 1 0
 That 1st picture is wtf. Oval wheels
  • 17 0
 proto weareone biopace rims. a bit tricky to lace up. the shape is tuned to a typical pedal stroke cadence, so they turn vertical pedal forces (what would normally be wasted bob) into added forward momentum. kind of like a built in pump track. pretty cool.
  • 3 0
 Same principle as oval chainrings. 29er for the rollover and 27.5 for when you need to turn, all in one wheel!

(Seriously though, was than an up-close panorama shot?)
  • 3 0
 @xy9ine: ah Biopace (we always said it with an Italian accent, made it more lustworthy for the roadie crowd, needed to include the "chefs kiss" as well)
  • 2 0
 @pmhobson: Wide angle lens with the wheels close to the edge/corners of the frame.

This is why all those skateboard videos use fisheye lenses. It keeps the wheels circular!
  • 1 0
 @xy9ine: can I run an oval chainring as well?
  • 2 1
 I wonder if DVO will work better with 3VO
  • 1 0
 FSP. floating single pivot
  • 1 0
 Meh. Seen pictures, but never actually seen one in the wild.
  • 1 0
 its cool but i cant wait for ministry cycles to release a bike
  • 2 4
 $3600 USD for the frame only, big moneys.

Maybe if it was the full CNC construction to match the rear triangle, but not with a fairly basic steel front end.
  • 3 1
 Frame + ultimate shock Wink
  • 1 0
 Keep dreaming Full cnc is waaaay more expensive
  • 2 2
 @nicoenduro: people fap to cnc when forged is stronger for the same size. it's curious manufacturers never bragged about forged parts, too complicated to sell to the normies?
  • 3 1
 @baca262: you want to forge an entire bike frame?

You do realise forged parts are cnc machined to finish dimensions too, don’t you?
  • 3 1
 @justanotherusername: don't put words into my mouth, please
  • 2 1
 @baca262: why not? some sense might come out if I did.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a DW design
  • 1 0
 Similar only in that it's a dual link design, if you note the lower link in DW extends off the back of the seat tube, while the lower 3VO link extends forwards.
  • 1 4
 forward links are bs, elongate the swingarm and make it flexier
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