PINKBIKE FIELD TEST
Downcountry Bikes Roundtable
Predominantly French-speaking, the residents of Quebec are major recreationalists and have been hosting mountain bike events on purpose-built trails for decades. Take the notoriously demanding Mont St. Anne World Cup cross-country track, for example. Jagged bedrock, mud-covered roots, and sandy berms have claimed more than a few rims and tires from the world’s best. Quebec’s trail networks do have it all. What better of place to base ourselves for another Downcountry Field Test?
For those not in tune with the bike category
inadvertently popularized by Mike Levy, it would best be explained as building an XC race bike to have some fun with off the clock and outside the tape. There are no rules to a downcountry bike, just go out there to pedal hard and put some miles behind you.
As per usual, the bikes we’ve rallied for each have their own flavor and features that set them apart in the garage and out on the trails. From very expensive carbon component packages to affordable aluminum steeds, the rear travel ranged between a minuscule 100mm on the skinny Ibis Exie to 125-millimeter equipped RSD Wildcat.
More doesn’t always mean better though. That DW-link suspension on the Exie blew our minds when it came to keeping the rear wheel on the ground, both up and downhill. That trait had us second-guessing its true travel number.
Those two letters “DW” stand for Dave Weagle, a legendary name in the world of bicycle suspension. He’s the man behind the dual link design on Ibis bikes and the DELTA system used on Evil’s fleet, including the Following. This trail shredder isn’t afraid to lean into a corner or pop a sizeable gap. In fact, it left us pondering if the geometry was holding it back from getting wilder on the 120mm trail demon.
Both the BMC Fourstroke 01 LT One and the Lapierre XRM 8.9, the two long-shocked XC-race bikes in the test, couldn’t shake their firm pedalling platforms. We’d go on to discuss how effectively their suspension performed and how efficiently they pedalled.
Clear as day, the winner out on the trail had to be the goldilocks of the bunch, Allied’s new BC40. Not only did the build have the right ratio of travel to weight, but the geometry let us attack downhills, without getting too carried away, and still punch it uphill. Although it was the most expensive bike, it did have a few flaws when we got nit-picky.
We expected to have a couple of mechanicals and certainly a handful of flat tires, given the amount of rock rolls and dirt doubles we came across on such quality level trails, but any mishaps came from negligence and not workmanship. Come to think of it, we didn’t even experience one flat tire.
Be sure to check out all of the videos to see the torment that we pushed these short-travel bikes through and all the laughs that were had out in Quebec.
None of the above
It reminds me of the time I was passed on a climb by a guy on a Walmart bike with the seat entirely to low …. I still regret not being able to catch him to tell let him know he was doing everything wrong.
Yes, I'm SHOUTING, because we asked you to do this nicely last time, everyone agreed it was a good idea, and now here we are again with zero comparisons.
It would massively increase the value of these field tests to relate them back to previous tests - at least for the class leaders. Knowing how the best climbing / descending / overall bikes in this test fair against those respective winners from the last test allows us to carry over so many more relative considerations. Instead, we have five or six more bikes in isolation each time you do a test.
So many of the things you're saying about the Allied (a bike VERY few would see in shops or trails) seem to echo what was said about the Epic Evo (a bike most of us have some connection to).
HOW DO THEY COMPARE?
Idk, I consider a downcountry bike to be a raked out XC race bike under 26lbs.
I ride my DH on climby xc rides & my 120 mm Pistol on DH terrain. All depends on how sendy you wanna get.
In fairness, they did include some more references in the enduro field test earlier this year talking about current bikes vs. Specialized enduro
25 lbs, full carbon (w/ carbon wheels), Fox Factory and XT for $6k.....game, set, match
www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/mountain/oiz/cat/oiz-m10
also what's wrong with it any competent mechanic shouldn't have issues with it
XC only...last place in test. DO NOT BUY!
Even tho PB called this field test DC, it's really more of a Lollapalooza of short travel bikes. Makes more sense that way.
Profane idea: slap an angle set and a 140mm Bomber Z2 on an Supercaliber
I feel quite special for not noticing that before.
now that everyone is on 1x drivetrains i think you can get pretty similar suspension performance with any modern pivot arrangement : horst, single pivot, vpp, dw link, abp.
"Well I'll be, looks like we got us a 15-way tie. Shucks."
So I get why they sized down for this test with Sarah being shorter, but especially for @mikelevy who road them all some insight on his experience with the reach would be great.
Maybe they do an additional podcast and include this as a topic ...
IMO, wheelbase is no less important than travel amount, when it comes to classifying where it could fit in a quiver. I'd want a short WB for tight and playful terrain and longer WB for bigger terrain that is fast and calls for something more stable. Even 25mm of WB difference is a very big deal to me.
Demoed the Offering 2x but did not think it felt much different than my Following.
The Wreckoning is a whole ‘nother story. With the Push 11/6and a Mezzer Pro up front, it can both plow over stuff and pop depending on what you want to do. Amazing bike.
I think the reasoning for most companies is simple - overwhelmingly they'll sell M and L bikes. Of the few XL's they sell, a very small percentage of those buyers will know the difference. It's an easy place to save money while keeping most customers happy, regardless of what the bike costs.
Its the less-filthy-rich-person's Allied BC-40! (And I love mine.)
Three years with no change is ancient in this industry as you know. But $3250 for a Kona? I think many will spend $300 more for a Santa Cruz or part out a complete for the frame. It'd pay off in resale if that matters.
Edit: Challenge: everybody write a Haiku for your favorite brand about how much you love or hate internal headset cable routing.
I currently own the Wildcat v2 and can tell you I don't even regret it being 8lb heavier. Much more fun in everything but a little bit slower when climbing.
But I’d try the BMC or the RSD, as I like to be different and the BMC would match my road bike.
I'd like to throw a leg over the YT Izzo as well
Own? Evil.
My own money? BMC.