YT Unveils New Threaded Capra Frame and Longer Travel Decoy MX with Uncaged 9 Models

Mar 16, 2022 at 13:50
by Matt Beer  
Capra - Uncaged9
YT Capra MX Uncaged 9

As a consumer direct brand, YT's product line is laid out in a first come, first serve basis and its Uncaged models offer upper level components that veer away from the most common brand names.

Two new models with mixed wheels have entered the chat; the Capra MX Uncaged 9 and Decoy MX Uncaged 9 eMTB. The duo share the same "Deeper Purple" paint scheme mixed with yellow highlights on the Ohlins TTX22M coil shock and RXF38 M.2 fork with 170 mm of travel.

Capra MX Uncaged 9 Details

• Wheel size: 29 / 27.5"
• Travel: 170 mm front / 170 rear
• Frame material: Alloy
• Head angle: 64° / 64.3°
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
• CS length: 433, 433, 433, 438, 438 mm
• Reach: 424, 444, 464, 484, 504 mm
• Weight: 16.10 kg / 35.49 lb (size S, claimed)
• Base price: €,3,799, £3,799, $3,999 USD, $5,599 CAD

Capra - Uncaged9
Capra - Uncaged9
The alloy model also receives a clever cable port in the head tube.

Even though this is the Capra MX Uncaged, the build revolves around a full aluminum frame that rides on their V4L Horst-Link suspension design with all the design attributes and geometry as the carbon version. The alloy option drives the price down to $3,999 as is completed with a full SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain, Code R brakes, and Crankbrothers Synthesis Enduro wheels wrapped in a trusted Maxxis Assegai/DHR II combo. The cockpit is finished with a Renthal Fatbar and Apex stem with YT's in-house Postman dropper post. Maybe the biggest change of all though, is a change in bottom bracket standard, the Capra MX now runs a BSA 73mm threaded.

Five sizes spread the reach from 424 mm for a small to 504 for the XL and head angles of 64-degrees in the slackest setting. There are also two sets of size specific chainstays; 433 mm on the S, M, and L frames while the two larger sizes grow by 5 mm to 438.

Specifications


Geometry


Capra - Uncaged9




YT Decoy Uncaged 9 MX

YT Industries DECOY UNCAGED 9
YT Decoy Uncaged 9 MX

Boasting a longer travel fork and 165 mm of rear wheel travel, this is YT's longest travel eMTB to date. Although the carbon front triangle is the same as the Decoy Pro 29, the alloy rear end, 27.5" rear wheel, and 170 mm fork alter the geometry in an aggressive manner. The head angle now sits back at 64.4º when in the low setting.

Like the Capra MX, the Decoy MX features a size run of five options, but the reach is roughly 20 mm shorter per size while the single-size chainstays rest at 442 mm. The TTX22M rear shock rebound is adjusted for the two larger frame sizes that come with firmer springs. Underneath the Swedish gold damper is enough clearance for a water bottle as well.

Decoy MX Uncaged 9 Details

• Wheel size: 29 / 27.5"
• Travel: 170 mm front / 165 rear
• Frame material: Carbon front, alloy rear
• Head angle: 64.4° / 65°
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
• CS length: 442 mm
• Reach: 407, 427, 447, 467, 487 mm
• Battery / Motor: 540 Wh / Shimano EP8 85 Nm
• Weight: 23.50 kg / 51.81 lb (size S, claimed)
• Base price: €6,999, £6,399, $7,499 USD, $10,499 CAD

YT Industries DECOY UNCAGED 9
YT Industries DECOY UNCAGED 9
A full Shimano XT drivetrain and Ohlins TTX22M coil rear shock are popular workhorse components.

YT favors the Shimano EP8 motor across their E-bike range that produces a maximum of 85 Nm of torque and uses a custom fitted 540 Wh battery to bring the total weight of the Decoy MX Uncaged 9 build to 23.5 kg. Aside from SRAM Code R brakes, the $7,499 USD build is rounded out with a Shimano XT drivetrain, including 160 mm crank arms.

Specifications


Geometry






YT Industries DECOY UNCAGED 9




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143 Comments

  • 454 15
 You know whats the worst thing about bike companies? They always want credit for something they supposed to do. They'll say something like "we put threaded bottom brackets in our bikes! It's revolutionary!" You're supposed to you dumb mother f*&ker!
  • 149 0
 aggressive but i like it.
  • 46 0
 i know lets take all the threads outta the BBs and in 5 years put them back in and tell the new people its an important upgrade ......like something that shouldnt have happened anyway
  • 38 2
 Chris rock wants his joke back.
  • 39 0
 "we stand by our products" that's what you're supposed to do you low expectation having mother fu---
  • 11 1
 After decades of struggling to press in bb cups into BMX bikes with the worst frame spec tolerances, the bike industry thought they found the golden goose by creating press-fit bb's for road and mountain bikes. Now like I thought it would, everyone's switching back to threaded (...but I thought press-fit was so important and had to be done?). Glad companies like Santa Cruz and others skipped this B.S. all together.
  • 3 0
 @Chumbawumbafan69: companies luv keepin’ it rel, rel dumb.
  • 8 30
flag Rexuis-Twin (Mar 17, 2022 at 9:30) (Below Threshold)
 Also there is a cycle of external to internal back to external cable routing. Right now we are in the upswing of internal stem routed cables. And in a few years we will be back to external cables like its revolutionary. I just want 2x drivetrains to come back, as they are superior in every way to a 1x.
  • 16 0
 and top end components like... (checks notes) ... SRAM Code R brakes and a GX drivetrain...
  • 3 0
 @Rexuis-Twin: I think it's subjective, where I live there are very few flat areas so having a bigger front ring is really not that advantageous. but agree that some variety would be great!
  • 12 4
 @Rexuis-Twin: Except perhaps dropped chains, or chain rub on the derailleur, or one more cable and shifter pod on the handle bars (I imagine Scott would manage somehow to make this a five lever hunk of junk), the extra weight, the extra maintenance with one more cable that is going to stretch, the longer chainstays required, or one more part to get damaged and fail in a crash.

Yep, 2x is superior to 1x in every way.
  • 3 0
 @Rexuis-Twin: I mean, you can still buy some 2x drivetrains and the XT 11sp cranks I bought new a couple years back will still accept a small ring.

No one will ever support a frame mounted front derailleur ever again though.
  • 1 0
 If people are stilput off bikes because they dont have a threaded BB they may have a point
  • 5 0
 @Rexuis-Twin: 1x was a necessary to get us to eMTB. A gateway drug if you will.
  • 5 3
 Still, no T47...fail.
  • 7 3
 @handynzl: 1x; More weight in the back, lower rear derailleur, less accurate shifting, and a PB favorite, more expensive/less reliable.

Lastly, in 37 years of crashing, I've broken EVERY part except grips, seat posts, and, wait for it, front derailleurs.
  • 6 2
 @EricHarger: I'll take a chain that doesn't drop over literally any benefit you can provide for front shifting.
  • 4 3
 @Rexuis-Twin: how can you say 2x is superior? maybe on a road or gravel, but DEFINITELY not mtb
  • 4 0
 @CTDchris: I think it's mostly a function of where and what you ride. I've heard of guys losing races because they didn't have a 2x for a long flat portion of a course. That said I don't race and I can't imagine ever going back to 2x.
  • 2 2
 @EricHarger: Just cos it didn't break doesn't mean it didn't rub annoyingly despite the best efforts of every professional in your state to sort it, plus there was nowhere to put your dropper post remote so that it was even slightly ergonomic and one more cable hanging out the front of your bike looking to get wrecked in your next stack.
  • 2 3
 @jaznomore: "Mountain" Biking involves riding up and riding down. IMO riding through long flats is more the domain of gravel bike or endurance riding. I actually run an old 3x9 setup on my makeshift gravel bike and it works well there. Id say dropping a 2x chain, or missing a front ring shift are more likely to loose time in a race.

Besides, 2x was impossible to roll switch. 1X seems to do alot better and that is cool. As for weight, most 1X cassettes are indeed pigs. my Garabaruk 10-46 is like 290g which is equivalent to a good 9 speed road cassette and it has been going strong for a long time. I have zero desire to ever have a FD on a mtbike ever again.
  • 1 0
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: Knolly frames still have a spot to mount a front derailleur. Never met anyone who uses it though!
  • 4 2
 @brooklyn1: Disagree. Years of fitting bmx bbs and cranks usually on someone else’s bike with nothing more than a house brick and a block of wood at some random skatepark and the fact there’s a threaded bb currently stuck in my dh frame that wouldn’t be if it was press fit has utterly convinced me that press fit is better. Can someone explain what it is that’s so great about them other than needing to buy specific proprietary tools and running the risk of it writing off a frame?
  • 4 2
 @thenotoriousmic: Hard agree with you dude. It's so simple and cheap to work with. Get an old threaded 135mm axle, boom, you have a BB press. Taking it out? Flathead and a hammer at the most basic. Tap it out slowly. Tolerances go rough? Bearing retention compound exists!

I've seen so many more frames written off because of damaged or seized in threaded BBs than I have issues with PF BBs. Most shop dudes I chat with say the same, with some exceptions. It's so weird to me the disconnect between what mechanics prefer to work on and what customers prefer, and both groups having reasons why.

PF gets a lot of hate because it's easy to hate, and syncs with the popular memes of this generation of bikes. They're just damn good.
  • 3 0
 @Chumbawumbafan69:

“I ain’t never been to jail!”
“I take care of MY kids!”
  • 4 0
 @brooklyn1: I was not aware that pressfit had a BMX background!
  • 1 0
 Basically all BMX, barring race frames, are pressfit. Has worked in that discipline for decades, installed by children.
  • 2 0
 Read in Samuel L Jackson’s voice this is gold.
  • 1 1
 @handynzl: And there's the dynamic of the bike. You can't optimize anti-squat and all with 2 different size rings.
Either you optimize for one and the other is crap, or you compromise on both.
  • 3 0
 Pressfit is objectively superior to threaded, the issue with pressfit, is the horrible quality of bike frames.
99% of issues of pressfit stem from loose tolerances, either in diameter or alignment.
  • 3 0
 Apple did the same think with the macbook pro when they took out the ports, and now the new mackbook pro has all the ports, its revolutionary Smile
  • 2 0
 @vw4ever: "you wanna f@$#in' cookie!?"
  • 1 0
 @hal9k: my man!
  • 139 9
 uncaged must be referring to the lack of bottle cage
  • 11 9
 You can use a bottle cage on both bikes. I'm not sure what you are referring to?
  • 27 4
 @Morrrice: mate the saddest excuse for a bottle you can fit about as much liquid in a Gu packet
  • 14 12
 @chrismac:
620ml for the CAPRA; 475 ml for the DECOY. I think that not too bad, TBH.
  • 4 1
 lmaoo
  • 7 0
 @CRIMSONMTB: The Decoy water bottle is the cutest little thing ever, like the size of a juice box
  • 3 0
 With the asymmetrical wing of the new CAPRA it is now possible to mount a standard drinking bottle or the new Thirstmaster 6000 (620 ml) in the frame. Loss of stiffness and strength? Negative - smart engineering makes it possible! The Thirstmaster 6000 is supplied free of charge with every CAPRA order.
  • 2 0
 @chrismac: You can use a standard water bottle now
  • 2 1
 @Morrrice: And refill them from your camel back after two gulps on a hot day Razz
  • 2 0
 @Morrrice: I stand corrected nice
  • 1 0
 @Morrrice: you don't ride in the desert much, do you?
  • 68 1
 THIS IS WHAT THE INDUSTRY NEEDS! - top spec components on AFFORDABLE ALUMINUM FRAMES!
  • 13 0
 Yeah alloy, top spec parts, all of the wheel size choices. Recipe for a decent bike.
  • 11 2
 I'm with you. More environmentally friendly, and resilient to crashes as well. I think all frames should offer an aluminum option at the least.
  • 9 0
 This is the cheapest bike in the range, why would I buy a different one? This is the Capra I would buy
  • 8 1
 GX is a top spec component?
  • 3 1
 The best bikes can get turned into post-ride beer cans! Rode a few carbon bikes and hated how twangy they were. Had EC90 DH carbon bars and they were downright scary how much they flexed. Had carbon rims and they cracked. Current build is 0% carbon and just as light.
  • 1 0
 And low-capacity batteries. What is this, 2020? (Guffaw)
  • 3 0
 @kirny6: it is acceptable at this price point
  • 32 5
 "As a consumer direct brand, YT's product line is laid out in a first come, first serve basis and its Uncaged models offer upper level components that veer away from the most common brand names."

What a weird way to start a press release. It's almost as if they wrote it, got it approved and then realized they should just acknowledge off the bat that they can't forecast worth shit so that they'll catch a break in the comments section. Also, offering Ohlins as an OE option doesn't make you a special snowflake in 2022.
  • 25 0
 Are there other brands putting Ohlins suspension on their aluminum frames? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are the Ohlins edition Commencals, but they don't have carbon options in any case (and are $1500+ more expensive than these).

I totally recognize the YT supply chain issues, but putting high end suspension/mid-high components on an aluminum frame seems to be somewhat uncommon despite riders calling for it.
  • 6 3
 Exactly lol.

As a consumer direct brand, YT's product line is laid out in a first come, first serve basis = By the time these are available for purchase we will only have XXS and XXL in stock.
  • 2 0
 @nskerb: M, L and XL in stock. XL next week. S…. Nope.
  • 22 3
 It's newsworthy when a company stops using press-shit?
  • 3 0
 You would think after we have been complaining about it for years, it would be the obvious next step to get rid of it.. but nope... it's news it appears
  • 5 0
 It's like asking for praise when a dude stops beating his wife.
  • 3 0
 @saladdodger: the problem is consumers complained, but still bought the bikes.
  • 17 4
 After taking the Hambini pill, threaded bottom brackets seem more like an admission that a bike company's factory and QA can't reliably produce on spec round holes. It's pretty well known at this point that creaky pressfit BBs are an issue of sloppy tolerances, and not an interface problem. After all, a threaded bottom bracket just gives you a threaded pressfit adapter
  • 6 5
 Meh, they all work fine. If you're not on a 20lb XC bike or a 15lb road bike there's no reason to care aside from creaking, which is not really an issue these days.
  • 3 0
 I’ve only have bikes with threaded BBs so I’ve never really even looked into press for before. What is the reason for using a press fit in the first place? What are the perceived benefits supposed to be?
  • 5 1
 @sino428: Lighter, stiffer, cheaper.
  • 2 2
 @plustiresaintdead: I'm guessing none of that really panned out since people pretty much seem to hate them.
  • 3 0
 @sino428: It is true but years ago people had a lot of creaky bikes and got turned off. Combine that with the more difficult installation and removal and I can hardly blame them. I'll still take threaded all day but it is far from a dealbreaker.
  • 2 0
 @plustiresaintdead: Yea I haven't actively avoided them or anything. The bikes I wanted just ended up having threaded.
  • 4 1
 @sino428: You don’t need any proprietary tools to fit them. I have three for various types off bbs that I wouldn’t need if those frames were press fit. Also never had an issue with press fit bbs. They just seem to last forever and I’ve written a frame off because it got stuck inside the frame something that wouldn’t be an issue if it was press fit. I just don’t see any reason to run threaded.
  • 1 0
 You know that higher tolerances = more expensive frames. So threaded are a good option for something that works without increasing the price
  • 19 8
 Needs skinnier tires, a lefty and bigger battery and it will be perfect. Be safe be well, Incognito Robin
  • 7 1
 YT's rollout of the "New" Capra has been pretty strange and jarring. ("New" Super Mario Bros anyone?) Last gen model being sold along side the updated model? Two levels of carbon? Bike shop brand prices? Drip feeding us an alloy option that also changes the BB to what it should have been years ago?
Every other YT bike release has been a total mic drop. (Capra 29, Decoy, Izzo, current gen Jeffsy, Tues base) This release has not only fallen flat, but taken a nosedive IMO. Trailheads used to be full of Capras. If they hurry and get more alloy mullet models made, we may see it again.

Tangent: They hired an Amazon guy, AKA a guy who specializes in combo of low sale price and high volume, which is exactly what YT was. It seems like they're going the other way to higher margin now? Commencal gonna eat their lunch if they continue down that road.
  • 1 0
 Ya agreed. The capra always seemed like a staple of YTs fleet, and like you said I used to see them all the time. If I were looking for an enduro race bike I would have a hard time choosing the Capra simply due to how confusing it is on their site now
  • 2 0
 Like three seasons ago, literally every second bike you'd encounter in any bike park in Germany was a YT Capra. But now since YT have decided to go down the ridiculous "prestige brand" route, others have taken over. Specifically Propain. Their product portfolio is essentially YT from 5 years ago, in terms of value.
  • 1 0
 @Muscovir: Same over here in the US but switch Propain for Commencal. Can't wait for God's gas to make a proper entrance into God's country here soon.
  • 1 1
 @Muscovir: you forgot to mention that for example the propain rage doesn't work and there are full forums that say even Much harder springs can't prevent bottom outs. And you forgot that propains cost at minimum 500 more than the yt's with similar components.
  • 8 0
 Those reach numbers vs seat tube lengths on the decoy - lolololoooollllloolllol
  • 1 0
 What’s the relationship between STL and Reach (I’m just curious)? Or do you mean that for the sizes, the STL is long?
  • 2 2
 @Svinyard: Basically, all the STs are too long. If you're 5'10" you're probably looking for a reach of 460-485. That'd put you on an XL (weird) with a STL of 470, which is about 40mm too much.

My Norco Sight L is only juuuust OK for me at 440mm STL and I've changed the cranks to 165mm.
  • 1 0
 @Will762: I am 5'10 and am quite comfortable on the large core 4 capra... The xl is far too big for me
  • 2 0
 @Will762: Yeah man. I love my Devinci Spartan 29, other than the seatube is too damn long. At 5'10" tall the reach is fine on my size large, at 465. I just swapped the bars for a slightly higher rise and rotated them back a bit. But I gotta say. I don't love the 460mm seat tube. WIth the 150mm dropper I'm running it like 1/4-1/2 inch from topped out when up to be comfortable. And with the seat slammed I feel like it should be at least an inch lower than it is. But, my last bike was a medium frame and I felt it was a little small for me. Seems 5'10" is always in that weird "in between sizes" realm unfortunately.
  • 3 0
 Reach numbers on both bikes seem several years behind the trend... even the Capra at 464 for a large is... not large
  • 2 0
 Massive seat tube limits larger sizes to people with longer legs. The going rate for a large - reach 475-485 And seat tube of 430-450mm The decoy has same size reach as seat tube! Its the sort of thing most brands did 5 years ago.
  • 1 0
 @erg6k: because they are not chasing trends. Early growth in frame TT was good. Now it's going too far and some bikes are too long. Large capra is perfect for me at 5'10''. Fits me way better and rides better in steep stuff than longer bikes
  • 6 1
 What's with sizing? And why are companies still making e-bikes with smaller reaches than their analog bike counterparts? I'm a L in normal bikes and around 480 reach is perfect. YT would have me on an XL Capra or XXL Decoy? Ridiculous. If the point of e-bikes is to climb faster and more efficiently so you can get more laps in (i.e., descents), why would an e-bike have sized down geo if you're going to be descending **more**??
  • 1 0
 I personally like the sizing on the Capra. 465 is perfect reach for me and I suspect other peeps in my height range (5'9"-5'11"). The size for the Decoy is probably just carry over from previous gen Capra that it was based on. Pretty much over the stupid long reaches for the "hang on and pray" riding styles. Some of us want to ride a bit more dynamically.
  • 1 0
 @withdignityifnotalacrity: Yeah but the seat tubes are comically high. At 5'11" 465 is perfect me as well (I like agile bikes though) but the Decoy is ridiculous with a 470mm seattube length, the Capra at 445 is too high as well. I'll take geo like the medium Evil Wreckoning or an Offering with a 469 reach and 390mm seattube length, but with better insertion. Canyon and others are doing this very well, if you want around a 460-465 reach it should be a medium.
  • 1 0
 @zarban: 445 is fine for me. I max out at 450. Would prefer lower but not a dealbreaker. My problem is a lot of brands go from 450ish reach in medium to 475-480 large. Often missing my sweetspot. But yeah, there are now a couple mediums that fit my preferred sizing.
  • 6 0
 I know their battery is undersized, but that ebike is one of the best looking ones out there
  • 7 1
 Crap! I've already waited too long...sold out.
  • 2 0
 for me it shows "currently not available", not "sold out". So probably they had a first batch in the warehouse which is now sold through - but more bikes are coming. I'll try this notification function and hope to be quick when new stock is available.
  • 2 1
 @masira: You understood the difference between "sold out" and "currently not available"! Seems to be difficult for some Wink Very nice!
  • 3 1
 Im confused. YT dont need new bikes. They NEED to fix their supply issues. What the hell is the new CEO doing? Wasnt that his very first thing to take care of and why he was chosen?

Im sorry but life is too short to be chasing a brand for product. Its not the 80's. Figure it out.
  • 3 0
 This picture:

www.pinkbike.com/photo/22227844

reminds me of the 2022 scott spark release:

www.pinkbike.com/photo/20752538
  • 3 0
 Same SLAG heap!
  • 1 3
 @rich-2000: except one is in Whales, and one is in Canada
  • 9 0
 @danielfloyd: plenty of Whales in Canadian waters bro!
  • 3 1
 I never had a problem with press-fit bbs. I have had some press-fit bbs that have lasted longer than threaded. As long as you have the tool to install and remove them, then it makes it better.
  • 2 0
 I’m probably going to be shat on for saying this but…all BB bearings are press fit. There no such thing as an externally threaded outer bearings race. Those threaded BB’s are just a cup that’s had bearings pressed into them.

People don’t love threaded BB’s. They hate poorly installed press fit bearings.
  • 1 0
 @bce: I have had several pressfit BB's bearings of one company fail a few times. They had an aluminum cup shell and I'm sure they were installed correctly. Not sure why they failed, though. The pressfit BBs that I have had with composite cup shell seem to go on forever.
  • 2 1
 Seven weeks into trying to get a warranty issue sorted with my Decoy (Shred). Spacer missed during assembly and linkage has been rubbing against frame. Apparently only cosmetic damage so I should just live with it. Can’t recommend.
  • 4 0
 Longer travel fork ? Hasn’t the Decoy Mx always had a 170mm fork ?
  • 2 0
 yeah MX is unchanged. its more than the 29er, not sure if thats what confused them.
  • 4 0
 35.5 lbs in a small with no pedals, bottle, or tubes?
  • 2 0
 Just saw that.... For someone that rides an XL that's probably close to 37 lbs. I am totally for high end builds on aluminum frames, but maybe don't put the heaviest components on there too... Maybe the frame is a tank.
  • 1 0
 Long travel bike with a 38mm fork and coils front and rear. A large Ripmo AF with coil rear and 36mm air-spring fork is 35lbs. Seems like the right ballpark for something intended to be smashed into things and survive.
  • 1 0
 Norco warrantied my frame because of a press bottom bracket issue (BB shell worn), so I'm not partial to the design. At the very least, use a press fit BB that threads together and not the pathetic SRAM Dub style.
  • 1 1
 504mm of reach in XXL with a 77' ESTA? Have these guys never met an XXL human before? As an XXL human I can definitely say that 504/77 my knees wouldn't clear the handlebar (and that's with a moderate 35" inseam). I'm all for splitting the difference and giving more granular options to people at the center of the bell curve but don't call this XXL.
  • 3 3
 Hiya. Chief Constable of the Anti Fad Police Dept here. Are we seriously still doing this? Are we seriously Mulleting bikes for no reason whatsoever! They are not better, faster, more amazing, make no difference to your Stravasole times.. They are just a pointless fad!
  • 2 0
 Say what you will about YT, but if you can get your hands on one of these Capras they're probably the best value bike right now
  • 1 0
 Until you break it and have to go through the extremely long warranty process just to get nowhere. My “Crackra” or “Crapra” as everyone here at the bike park knows it broke in 4 places at once all due to a failed manufacture weld. They offered me a crash replacement on the frame that was the same price as a new clash or meta from commencal at the time. No brainer choice there, switch to a brand with a decent customer service/warranty department.
  • 4 0
 BSA BSA BSA!
  • 5 2
 Still waiting for that new bigger battery..... smh.
  • 1 0
 Longer travel Decoy MX???? My decoy purchased in 2020 was also 170/165, and most of dimensions are within 0.1degrees or 3mm (other than wheelbase).
  • 2 1
 "revolutionary" threaded bottom brackets is like getting rid of 20mm axles and later adding "torque caps" to 15mm axles... smh
  • 2 0
 Best looking e-bike by a mile, not so sure about the purple color though…
  • 1 0
 Based on what has been released lately this bike is a screaming deal in CDN.
  • 3 1
 Capra geo chart must be off. It shows 484 reach for an XL.
  • 3 0
 There are a few brands that haven't gone for upsizing all the way. A lot of pro racer guys are in that range as well. Despite having the shortest reach, that Capra was also the fastest bike on the downs in the shootout. The bigger bikes were 480/485mm (in a large, not XL) were slower but apparently more "comfortable"? Longer doesn't always equal better, I think we are in the realm of pros/cons on the length rather than just "its too short". Shorter will be faster in talented hands and a bit more fun...longer will be more comfortable and stable, particularly in straight, steep stuff apparently.

These guys did the best bro-science look at this paradigm using the Pros actual bikes on an actual EWS course. Applicable for the masses not riding straight, steep, super-gnar.
enduro-mtb.com/en/enduro-race-bike-mtb-review
  • 3 0
 @Svinyard: long past time to re-evaluate the trend of super long reach, imo.
  • 3 3
 Where's the e-bike trigger warning? this is the second day in a row an article has led with an acoustic and finished with an e-bike... I'm not comfortable with this.
  • 1 0
 Decoy has been 170/165 for a couple of years now. Why is this one dubbed "the longest travel Decoy to date?"
  • 1 0
 Both of those bikes look and I bet ride awesome, who cares about bbs or weight ?
  • 2 0
 Please make the Jeffsy a little more modern (65° HTA 475 Reach)
  • 1 0
 Yepp, and 77° STA with 27,5 wheels and a poppier suspension setup.
  • 1 0
 SRAM Code R.... Not even RSC?
  • 1 0
 Is uncaged code for whoever had parts we could actually have?
  • 1 0
 Just me or this looks a lot like the Commençal clash?
  • 1 0
 Finnaly, a YT bike that reprents what the brand stands for again.
  • 1 0
 Is there gonna be a Caged model?
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 Newsletter copy gives a hint for more alu capra models.
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 lol 540 is nough
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 Hard pass. Try again when you've got an alloy model for less than 3k, YT.
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 Mullets are totally legit especially for shorter riders. Butt and ball buzz injuries are real and painful.
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 The geometry for Larga Capra looks very logical and consistent in my case
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 Direct to consumer...
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 Still only a 540w battery ? C'MON YT !!!!
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 Looks like YT battery tech is stuck in 2016, they're having an hard time for sure.
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