 | The old mountain bike industry adage; "Strong, light, cheap - pick two.' still rings as true as ever with wheels - and nothing personifies the adage as completely as shopping for a set of carbon wheels. |
Carbon raised the bar for what customers could possibly expect to pay for premium products. I remember going into my local bike shop as a kid and wondering how on earth people could afford the shiny factory wheelsets hanging high on the wall at the back of the shop. They were out of my reach in literally every sense back then. Standing there, I wondered if I would ever be able to buy something like that. Some 15 years later, the introduction of carbon shattered my youthful dreams once again. The unearthly price tags of my youth could not buy a single wheel from most carbon wheelset makers today.
The old mountain bike industry adage: "Strong, light, cheap - pick two." still rings as true as ever with wheels - and nothing personifies the adage as completely as shopping for a set of carbon wheels. The EXC 1550 wheelset is DT's offering for the all-mountain end of that carbon-clad stratosphere. The pair weigh only 1530 grams, they are only available for 26-inch, and a set will cost you $2749 USD.
The EXC 1550 carbon rim has an internal reinforcing rib.Details:
• Purpose: All-mountain/trail
• Sizes available: 26 inch only
• Hubs: DT Swiss 240, stainless steel bearings
• Axle options: 20mm or 15mm thru-axle, or QR front; 142/12mm or QR 135/10mm rear
• Rim: Unidirectional carbon, 21mm internal width.
• Spokes: DT Aerolite spokes Pro Loc aluminum nipples, 28, cross-two lacing.
• Freehub: Star Ratchet System, convertible from 10-speed SRAM/Shimano to SRAM XD driver body for XX1
• Tubeless ready: Not recommended
• Weight: 1530g (claimed)
• MSRP: $2749
ConstructionDT Swiss EXC 1550 wheels are a few years old now, and they still aren't available in an array of exciting sizes - 26 inch only. They take their name from their approximate weight - tipping the scales at a feathery 1530 grams for the pair. To put the weight saving into context, DT's aluminium EX1750 wheelset, which uses the same rim profile, hubs and spokes, comes in at a total weight of 1760 grams per pair. The carbon rims save 230 grams over their aluminium equivalent - all of it from the rim, where it matters most. This is the kind of weight saving that makes a big difference out on the trail, as any mass at the edge of the wheel is multiplied by acceleration forces as the wheel spins.

At the heart of the EXC 1550s wheels are DT's well-proven 240 hubs; Even the inside of the rims look good.
At their heart, are a set of DT's 240 hubs and there is very little we need to say about them: They are well-proven as some of the best hubs out there - solid and reliable, like a Swiss watch. With this wheelset, front nubs are available with 9mm QR axles or 15mm and 20mm thru-axles and rear hub options are QR/135mm or 12/135mm and 12/142mm thru-axles. You can buy the kits from DT aftermarket to convert them to whichever axle combination you need. Lacing those hubs to the rims are 28 of DTs top-end double-butted Aerolite spokes, fixed by hexagonal Pro Loc aluminum nipples - a light and strong combination that graces their wheelsets, from these EXC1550s, through to their high-end road offerings.

Red, white and carbon - a colour scheme that both stands out, yet shouldn't clash with almost any bike.
DT are fairly secretive about the precise details of the rim construction. They let on that they are laid up with unidirectional fibre, and it is kept simple, with no decorative carbon weave to cover it, as it would only add weight to the rim. Internally they have two hollow chambers inside, which DT say,, adds much more stiffness to the construction. The internal diameter is a healthy 21mm, which may not be as wide as some of the current crop of rims, but is wide enough, and means they are good to fit tires up to 2.5 inches, which should be more than enough for their target audience. However, DT are not entirely sure how tire sealant will interact with the carbon in the rims, and therefore recommend that you do not run these wheels tubeless - doing so will void any warranty.
Setup While DT may not recommend running these wheels tubeless, on a trail bike we suspect most people who buy these wheels will want to go down that route. We have not had structural problems running other carbon rims tubeless, but DT Swiss prefer to remain conservative and steer their customers away from this than allow them to use something they are not 100% certain of. You have to respect a company who are not willing to permit anything they do not have total confidence in, and if you do choose to do this, you have to remember you are voiding the warranty on a $2750 wheelset. The problem with running tubes in these wheels is the weight gain. For comparison, the heavier aluminium EX1750 wheels may be a couple of hundred grams heavier, but they are designated tubeless ready. Looking at total wheelset weights, including tires and tubes on the EXC1550 and running the EX750 wheels tubeless, they come in at pretty much the same weight.

With a set of Schwalbe's Super Gravity tires mounted on the EX1550s, we put plenty of miles in on the wheels on the rocky trails above Sospel, France.
Mounting the wheels with a Stan’s NoTubes kit for the first time was not easy. To mount a set of Schwalbe's Supergravity tires, which are a joy to mount on many rims, we could not get them to seat for the first time without a compressor - even with the use of Schwalbe’s mounting fluid. Once there was some dried latex inside the rim from a previous tire, though, they were fine, seating with nothing more than a track pump.
On the Trail Riding a set of ultra-lightweight, ultra-stiff rims on your bicycle is a joyous experience. While some may dispute the benefits, Mavic, for example, maintain that ultra-stiff rims are not a good thing, we would be inclined to disagree. From the first time you head out your door and start pedaling, the bike just feels faster and more nimble. Even rolling up the road to a trailhead is easier, the loss of the rotational mass from the rim will be immediately noticeable to riders of all levels. When you reach technical terrain, that added nimbleness makes it easier to move and place the bicycle exactly where you want it, when you want it. The whole bike feels more direct and precise.

While you shouldn't use EXC 1550s for downhill, that doesn't mean you need to be too gentle with them either.
The EXC 1550s are very much a finesse tool though. Their benefits come in handling and speed - if you are an aggressive rider who tends to smash through lines, and consequently rims, then you will smash through these too. DT make it clear on their website that they consider their carbon rims to be slightly more delicate than their aluminium equivalents, dropping their rating from general freeride use, to light freeride, and not making them available in with the DH-specific 150/12mm rear-axle option. With the tubeless setup, the EXC1550 didn't like being bludgeoned into rocks and roots too much either. We needed to keep an eye on our air pressure, as they had a tendency to lose air if we deflected the casings hard enough.
Pinkbike's Take:  | Carbon wheels like the EXC 1550s are never going to be a logical purchase. Even DT Swiss admits that their new aluminium Spline ONE wheelsets are about half the price and are a far more sensible option. The fact these wheels aren't approved for tubeless use also counts against them too. We doubt many people will have the stomach to void the warranty on set of wheels this expensive. Yet, chances are, if you're in the market for carbon wheels, you're not looking for the sensible option - you'll want something special and you're not scared of putting good money down for it. If that sounds like you, then these expensive, impractical wheels that help your bike dance on the trail might just be the ticket. - Matt Wragg |
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I have been thrashing mine on the shore for 2 years. The odd broken spoke on the rear, not much more. They've been pretty decent. Tons of hard rock hits that have left nothing more than a light mark.
www.jensonusa.com/Easton-Haven-Carbon-26-UST-Wheel-2012
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"Carbon wheels like the EXC 1550s are never going to be a logical purchase. Even DT Swiss admits that their new aluminium Spline ONE wheelsets are about half the price and are a far more sensible option... Yet, chances are, if you're in the market for carbon wheels, you're not looking for the sensible option - you'll want something special and you're not scared of putting good money down for it. If that sounds like you, then these expensive, impractical wheels that help your bike dance on the trail might just be the ticket. - Matt Wragg"
yes, they're expensive, no, they're not sensible, yes, they're not for you, either. or me. but for christ sake, stop bitching every time something expensive is reviewed here. it's the nature of the beast and it's not going to change.
build them up on some kings and you have a amazing set of wheels for around $1000-usd
the best thing i ever spent my money on , they are about $200 per rim shipped
In a way I miss when mountain biking wasn't about shaving grams off your bike, and it was more about having a wheel that was "good enough" for the trails (if it spun and the tire stayed on it was good to go.)
forums.mtbr.com/29er-components/cheap-chinese-carbon-rims-673410-196.html
In the interests of transparency, WHEN did you actually receive these wheels for testing?
Was this even an official testing set?
Did you simply get the date wrong and republish a review from 2011/2012 when these wheels were flagship models?
Even your header image is date stamped 2012! right about the time this review would actually have been current and relevant..
Your spoke count is off too!
I find it hard to believe that DT recently shipped this wheelset out for review and testing recently when its one of the only factory "classic wheelset" that they still sell built on 240s hubs and j-spokes. The other being the still excellent but aging EX1750 (which you reference) and their superlight carbon race wheelsets (950g/1250g pairs on pricey 190 hubs
If DT sent product for a review, then surely they would have sent their later wheelsets where they have moved towards the wider wims that the market is calling for.. and for pinkbike this surely is the EX1501 for a wheel in the PB catagory.
By sitting on review product and taking so long you're essentially published an out of date and irrelevent review - BRILLIANT!
With teh industry changing so fast, you've gotta get stuff published quicker than this!
Perhaps go cap in hand to DT and ask for a set of their superb and very relevant XM or EX 1550 spline1 wheels that come in any wheel size that riders what!
Premium offerings like these aren't intended to sell in real world conditions, these products are offered up to industry insiders in the way of pro-forms, bro-deals, online "reviews", and shop rat discounts in effort to increase brand recognition. I doubt DT expects to make much actually selling these, in the traditional sense...retail paying customers like you and I. It's a halo product. Nothing to see here, head on over to lightbicycle for carbon rim deals and put the extra $2000 in an investment.
Iv build myself a pair of pro2evos on e13 TRS+ rims 26'' with dt Swiss revolution spokes... They weight 1528g and cost £520!! So cheat compared the these things.. Iv hit a few rocks n things pretty hard to with not even a scratch very happy with that, So you could call my wheels 'strong, light and cheap'
I run hope front / hadley rear hubs with sapim xr and enve 27.5 AM rims. Its a heavier combo than the DT offering reviewed. But crazy precise, bombproof, and confidence inspiring.
Half the price, Tubeless ready, Stiff, same weight and strong as F*ck. Been rocking these on my Endo Sworks for a while and love them. Highly recommended.
The reason they won't sell is the simple fact that $2800 is freaking ridiculous.
I smell a blowout coming for 1/2 that price on JensenUSA or Pricepoint. because then they would be a reasonable value.
Get UST shaped Frequency or KOM rims from WTB. Get tubeless ready tires with a proper bead and with sidewall reinforcement (Snakeskin, Protection, TNT etc...). Put like 60g of new CafeLatex. Ride with ZERO problems, and no flats from thorns and pinching.
Just was changing a tire, found more than a dozen of embedded small thorns. Dozen rides (per one wheel) saved with no stops. And it rides better, and saves at least 50g per wheel.
A) I know road bikes almost never use tubeless. It is however a suitable technology for use on road bikes as they dont really see much hard riding.
B)As I stated before....infact I may as well just cut and paste:
"a tube full of sealant will re-seal itself as well as, if not better than, a tubeless full of sealant"
Tubeless tyres are LESS puncture resistant than tubed. However ALL tubless set ups run sealent which helps a lot with puncture resistance. Put the same sealent in your tubed tyres and they are once again MORE resistant than tubeless. Its the sealent that helps, not the tubelessness.
C) Burping is always an issue. Push a tubeless tyre hard enough, whatever the pressure and it will burp. Yes if you keep your pressures high burps won't happen unless you are really pushing the tyres hard. However a tubed set up will never burp. So in short "rolling resistance yes. Puncture resistance no. Perhaps a good idea for road bikes, or mtbs than only see gentle use"
So how exactly do I not know what I'm talking about? I won't hold my breath for an apology......
However yes you can burp a tubeless setup if cornering crazy hard with the right tyre combo though it is rare. By running the setup you suggest during the times a tubeless would burp the inner tube will get a pinch flat. Sealant will help, but you will lose some air while it seals, maybe not as much as a buried tubeless. However a split in an inner tube will constantly be moved and the inner will fail over time. You would be adding weight to actually gain next to nothing.
If you run a suitable rim, with a wide enough rim and a tyre with a good bead you shouldn't burp a tyre. There fore you have a choice sealant or a tube. I choose sealant because I find it has less issues day to day. You could run both, but it would weigh more and gain nothing over a good tubeless setup.
Everyone finds their own setup, certain riding styles and rim/tyre combos work better with tubes. For me I've had far less issues since going tubeless and any issue I've had has been resolved as easy or easier than if I was running a tube.
Maybe for you a tube and sealant is needed, for me that would be overkill.
I went through 6 tubes on my 2012 alps trip. I had 1 flat tubeless this year riding harder. And I resolved that by shoving a co2 can on it, was riding about 30 seconds (literal) after the flat.
For me I won't go back to tubes even though my first couple of tubeless attempts were horrible I've mastered it now.
Happy riding
Tristianssid:
Your measured response makes a lot of sense and has some good points that I do agree with. All Im saying is both set ups have strengths and weaknesses. Some people on here seem convinced that tubes are awfull and never worked and the miracle of tubeless has now made bikes a viable mode of transport.
They were only cheap as you cant ride front qr anymore and it has to be 15mm or the stiffness difference will destroy your ride....
I dont get the wheel pricing think, it is all about the reliability of the hub (insert old tune cracked drive shell pictures here), the lightness and strength of the rotating parts, for xc a narrow rim is fine, for everything else 21mm or wider is all you need.
These wheels weigh the same as my old ex1450 wheels where the hubs were great apart from the stupid rotor fitting, the nipples and rims were pants, the rims fell to bits like I have never seen before, cracking down the middle on the inside and the rim widened for around 6 inches..... not good for such an expensive wheelset, and you cant just pop into your lbs and get a spare rim or buy one for a good price on next day delivery on the tinterweb.
Sure they aren't light, but I don't race. I have a set of light weight wheels that need constant attention, truing. I built the wheels for $480, I would rather have durability and money left over for.. well, I built up my Cotic BFe for a grand total of $1900 in 2012, including the price of the wheels. Too bad the old Syncros are gone, they had a very good carbon All Mountain rim that past all the media tests and were mostly affordable.. That would have been my next upgrade.
If a company can't make carbon to stand up to a certain amount of abuse (we're on MOUNTAIN BIKES here), they shouldn't be selling their wheels for $2700 bones.
Thank you, I will take Derby on DT Swiss hubs. Three pairs, in case something gets wrong.
Is it worth 2800$???????
If one can afford the best stuff. Yes.
Hummmmm........
BIKE!!!
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