First Look: Schwalbe’s New, More Aggressive Hans Dampf - Garda Trentino 2018

Apr 28, 2018 at 0:13
by Matt Wragg  
Garda Bike Fest 2018. Lago di Garda Italy. Photo by Matt Wragg


This weekend at the Garda Festival Schwalbe revealed a complete re-working of their Hans Dampf tire. Introduced in 2011, it quickly became a mainstay for riders looking for an intermediate tire - something that didn't have the speed-sucking tread of a full DH or enduro tire, but with enough bite to have some fun. Yet throughout its life, it never settled with some consumers. It fell apart too quickly, certainly too quickly, considering the price tag a modern premium tire carries.

Half of that issue was addressed last year, when Schwalbe went back to the drawing board with their rubber and re-launched their entire range with their newly developed Addix compounds, and they
Hans Dampf 2018 Details
• All-purpose, multi-terrain, trail tire
• Aggressive reinforced edging blocks
• Addix rubber compound
• Non-directional tread pattern
• Available in Apex, Snakeskin, and Supergravity casings
• Sizes: 29 x 2.35, 29 x 2.6, 27.5 x 2.35, 27.5 x 2.6, 27.5 x 2.8, 26 x 2.35, 24 x 2.35
• MSRP: Current pricing
• Contact: Schwalbe Tires
leveraged newer, more advanced production techniques to refine the balance between traction, speed and lifespan for every tire in their range. This newly unveiled Has Dampf re-vamp goes on not only to put any lifespan worries to bed, but also looking to make it a more capable all-round option.


The New Hans Dampf

It is clear that the new Hans Dampf is more substantial than the old version. What grabs your attention immediately are the side blocks - they are much deeper and more square, arranged in an alternating pattern with much bigger blocks than before. That extra depth means that when you lean onto the side of your tire they should support you - where the smaller blocks on the old version degraded at their base relatively quickly under hard cornering. Schwalbe say this will make the tire a lot more fun to drift with and more predictable, as they believe it will break away more nicely than even the Magic Mary. On the top, the tread the profile is again much squarer, which Schwalbe say will offer more bite under braking, but should not detract from the overall rolling speed of the tire, thanks to their Addix compounds.


Garda Bike Fest 2018. Lago di Garda Italy. Photo by Matt Wragg
New vs old, side-by-side. Both tyres are 2.9 x 2.35 Supergravity, mounted on 30mm internal width rims.
Garda Bike Fest 2018. Lago di Garda Italy. Photo by Matt Wragg
The new tire, behind the old one - you can see the slight increase in overall height.


Looking at the new tire alongside the old one, the overall width is very similar - something Schwalbe have worked on recently. In the past, their tires tended to come up very big for their given width, where now they are much closer to the stated numbers. One interesting difference is the overall height of the tire - comparing two 29 x 2.35, Supergravity tires mounted on 30mm internal width rims, there is a small height increase. This is a concept Vittoria have also been experimenting with recently as it is claimed it adds a little extra volume to the tire for added comfort. One nice touch is that the tread is still uni-directional, which means that less experienced riders and lazy mechanics can pretty much throw the tire at the wheel.

The new tire will be available in a range of sizes that should offer something to even the most baked-in retro grouch, covering 29 x 2.35, 29 x 2.6, 27.5 x 2.35, 27.5 x 2.6, 27.5 x 2.8, 26 x 2.35 as well as 24 x 2.35. They will be available in all three of Schwlabe's casing options - Snakeskin (standard casing), Apex (reinforced) and Supergravity (heavy duty) - although some of the more aggressive options (read: 29 x 2.6 Supergravity) will be a little but further down the road as Schwalbe believe the market for a 1600g heavy duty tire may not be the core of their audience. Pricing will be consistent with Schwalbe's current pricing. We will have a set of these in to test very shortly, so we will let you know how they perform out on the trail as soon as we can


151 Comments

  • + 315
 I hope they're better than the old Hans Dampf I tried. 3 rides in and I had more destroyed knobs than a Bangkok VD clinic.
  • + 81
 Clap clap! No pun intended
  • + 10
 Pissed myself at that, i will be using that as my own, royalty check will be posted by my hermes Smile
  • + 2
 @metaam I’m jelaous, my hands are sore from clapping. That was brilliant
  • + 14
 @WAKIdesigns: instead of recycling the HD name, they could have gone with the Rectal Randall
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Dont be so crabby.
  • + 27
 @Boardlife69: nah, Rectal Randall is a rear specific tyre, with Screwy Scarlett in the front. A universal tyre would be Two-way Teddy
  • - 10
flag Geochemistry (Apr 28, 2018 at 14:11) (Below Threshold)
 I hope they're better than any of the other Schwalbe tires I've tried. I put them third from the bottom, just barely above Continentals, but still a vast improvement over Michelins. I've never been burned by Cheng Shin/CST/Maxxis tires.
  • + 0
 @Bigwill13: Def intended...
Wink
  • - 3
 And they should name it sticky siphillis
  • - 2
 I thought the HD was pretty rad for a medium weight trail tire. Soft and sticky. I’ve grabbed some pretty decent Strava cups in Los Angeles on some burley trails. Prob not a race tire for a big bike though.
  • - 1
 @sevensixtwo: try bontrager SE4 Team Issue.
  • + 3
 @scoot34: Surely you mean My Herpes.....
  • - 1
 @mgolder: No, no! Mr President talked about his Hair Piece! Not the disease he got from Ms Daniels.
  • + 4
 I guess that's the problem of shwalbe tires in general. Specially the side knobbies they crack easily.
  • + 3
 @ibis09: Same here. I got a pair of Hans Dampf, never again. The side knobs cracked after a while.
  • + 1
 @zoobab2: never say never. I"ve only owned one Schwalbe tyre - a Hans Dampf in SG, and whilst it hasn't lived up to longevity, I couldn't fault the tyre itself. Like anything in life - I give second chances, fail a 3rd time and your out. And no, I'm not a dentist, i'm a broken assed carpenter so I'm not free with $$
  • + 82
 Next time maybe hose down the old for better comparison shots.
  • + 229
 But he wanted the old knobs to stay on the tire.
  • + 9
 ... Or at least some decent lighting.
  • + 1
 and maybe better lighting lol
  • + 41
 If you fancy following me round the trade show with a hose so I can keep my bike pristine for you, that would be smashing.
  • + 26
 @mattwragg: #salty
  • + 5
 @nickkk: He's sour becuase he had to ride a pedal bike for the review instead of a moped.
  • + 33
 The new Schwalbes seem to be doing well from everyone I know riding them. Addix seems to be legit.
  • + 7
 I have heard the same... I want a SG nobby nic in soft compound though !
  • - 3
 @Lagr1980: why would you like a nobby nic in casing made for going fast? You must have huge balls to ride fast on them... they are utter shyte in corners.

They kept those weird angled transition knobs, I bet if you cut them out it is a quite decent tyre.
  • + 2
 Had a Magic Mary/Rock Razor combo in Addix soft for a few weeks now and the wear rate is impressive so far. Really good off road but a bit sluggish peddling to the trails (my fault - should have bought the speedgrip).
  • + 3
 Super impressed with my Magic Mary/Nobby Nic 2.6 Apex. I'm well past the point where I'd have been ripping knobs on the old versions and they look almost new.
  • + 1
 @DrPete: I’m giving Schwalbe a third chance. I’m running MMary in Addix sitting on the fromt now and Rock Razor on the rear with procore inside. Rock Razor is in a class of its own when it comes to grip/ rolling resistance and weight. As long as it keep the knobs on. I’ll see how it holds. Magic Mary is excellent but it doesn’t suit me as well as DHF Maxx Grip. I can’t really find the edge on it, it’s a bit vague when pushed to the limit, perhaps due to squirmy knobs. Minion is very communicative, you know when you will lose grip so you dare to push harder. Mary is amazing in softer conditions amd in wet and Digs in very nicely under braking. K feel like I can really trust it when slamming on the brakes. It rolls like sht though...
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Yeah, not a fast roller. That's why I'm curious to try this HD 2.6 on the front in place of MM 2.6.
  • + 1
 @Lagr1980: Yes, Yes !! @schwalbe Please give us a Super Gravity Nobby Nic ! My favourite rear tire yet no ways to race on it safely :-(
  • + 0
 @freebikeur: just get the Rock Razor, comes in SG, best rear tyre from aggro xc to enduro, at least as long as knobs are on
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: only as a rear tire man. I have a rock razor I got as a present, im terrified tonuse it. I need more braking traction tha they could deliver in the steeps I believe. I have a 2.25 nobby nic but they only came in pacestar, too sketchy.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: yeh, Rock Razor is a brilliant rear tyre. I had the pacestar one before and it is an extremely fast rolling.
  • + 2
 @Lagr1980: I was told once: make sure you use enough front brake before you blame rear tyre traction. Now slamming front brakes hard is where word scary gets it full meaning. But once you get it...
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: new Vittoria’s look ok. Heavy-ish, no 29er but moto style. Could be awesome dry weather tyres!!
  • - 1
 @WAKIdesigns: yeah,although I could sense you might need more rooty slippery of camber technical steeps in your life ! Hahaha
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I also have a MM and RR on the trailbike. Nice combo, really like the RR rear. I also agree on the NN. Got a set, first fast rough corner, I lost the front and ended up on my ass. Never had a problem in this corner before. The whole ride was sketch. They came off and the MM and RR went on, and problems solved. The NN are now rear tires on my kids bikes. They seem to be fine in this application. I'm a little leary about the new HD side knobs as they seem to be the same slippery orientation as the NN. Time will tell.
  • - 2
 @mykel: Schwalbe makes exactly 3 good tires; Magic Mary, Rock Razor, and Dirty Dan.

Given that the new HD has the NN side knobs and how they're also blocked off by stupidly angled intermediate knobs, it's going to be just as bad or even more of a disaster than the NN. And yeah, my experience with the NN was about the same as yours, the darn thing dumped me on my ass and tried to kill me as soon as I tried to corner it hard. It lets go with no warning and once it starts sliding it's nearly impossible to recover.
  • + 0
 @mykel: What pressure did you put in your Hans Dampf. For what weight? I've been using HD in front for 1-2 seasons and find them predictable in corners, but that's just me.
  • + 1
 @cool3: It was the Nobby Nic I mentioned in my post. But I have tried the HD as well. They were fine on easy trails, but as soon as you started to push them hard the small side knobs could not handle the load and would fold and then rip (undercut) The small slanted angle transition knobs would also clog them up, not leaving enough channel for the side knobs to work well. I also tried a trimmed version with the blocks of 4 angled closest to the side knobs cut down to 1/3-1/2 height. Getting a good set with the side knobs was now really easy, but then the small side knobs were left even more unsupported. The new ones look to have the same side knobs as the Nobby Nic, again with tranny knobs that crowd the side knobs. Not enough room to get some dirt trapped for traction. I'm not hopeful that they will corner any better. If they had just put some MM or Maxxis style L blocks with enough room for dirt...

For the old HD, they were first run first generation released. 26x2.35 pressures at 28-30 rear and 26-28 front. 6'2" @ 210 out of the shower.
  • + 0
 @Lagr1980: that’s my daily bread. Offcamber riding and Nobby Nic? Someone in this room is lying Wink cheers!
  • + 7
 @mykel: thank you, finally someone who knows something about tyres... I don’t know why is it so hard for some companies to grasp: square shaped knobs in line with rolling direction. If rectangular they must be placed parallell to the riding direction for side knobs and perpendicularly for center knobs. Nothing else makes sense. Overly ramping knobs does not help rolling resistance on the contrary. Adjust size and spacing depending on application. Want less rolling resustance? Space them tighter along riding direction. Want more cornering, space out center knobs from side knobs and make side knobs chunky with big base. This is why Minions dhf and dhr2, Magic Mary, Rock Razor, most bontragers just work, they do. The rest is some failed ejaculation of let’s try something different. Yes Continental I am looking at your torus shaped Picasso paintings
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I've ridden several RR in both snakeskin and supergravity. I ended up avoiding this tyre despite the great ride: I cut every one of them open between the edge knobs. I've never experienced a cut EVER with other trail tyres from Schwalbes. A look to the weight of the Rock Razor answer the question: the SG is roughly 150-200 gr lighter than the MM. Got sidelined in the qualis of MOH in France because of this tire in SG (snakeskin MM on the front = troublefree all week!!) and will not buy it anytime soon...
  • + 2
 @mykel: got the same experience as yours in my first rides. Was about to throw them away but tried one last ride with less pressure. Turns out that was it. Precision, I rode one on the front of my xc in 2.25 and a 2.35 snakeskin on the rear of my trail bike (MM on the front). 1.3 bar on the rear, 78kg geared. Predictable breakaway, great rolling resistance and good grip when properly charged. I eventually had to get another tire to get a stronger casing when racing or riding park.
  • - 2
 @freebikeur: well there is no difference in casing between tyres with different pattern so there is no other explanation for RoRa being cut more often than the fact they you were possibly faster. HD in my experience has rather shitty breakaway point feel, far worse than Bonties or Aggressor. Not as bad as Nobby Nic but still, I just don’t dare to lean it and out it on the edge because when it goes it fkng goes. Intermediate knobs give also no hope for side knobs to hook up so while Highroller and HR2 are tyres with possibly worst transition center to edge, I can at least hope there’s something to catch me if I lean it properly. With HD, the ground catches me face.
  • - 1
 A successful intermediate tyre offers a wide breakaway zone since they don’t offer any real edge. So the only way to stop them from sliding more is turning in whereas tyre like magic mary can be both turned in or leaned more to make side knobs dig in even harder. Even Bonty XR2 will react instantly to turn in, while hd and nn keep going, it just feels like turning on layer of gravel lying on asphalt. Surprisingly as far as XC tyres go, the Racing Ralph gives me predictable feel, it is rather talkative. Prefer it over Rocket Ron which also feels like sliding towards the edge of a cliff
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: NN was the most confusingly bad tire I have ever ridden in 25 years of mountainbiking.
  • - 1
 @OnTheRivet: you've obviously never tried anything with Kenda, Nokian or Continental logo on it. They have one good tyre or two, but the rest is just a fricking amazing exercise at making a tyre that is heavy, has little grip, rolls slowly but at the same time wears out fast! Every tyre with King in the name is king at sucking in it's category.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Im a lier. you got me!. I have tried NN and they are OK in the rear as long as it is XCish, it rolls pretty good. but when shit gets real they stay home. Check my bike @ 1.54 www.pinkbike.com/news/tech-talk-from-dust-to-mud-at-ews-colombia-video.html
  • - 1
 @Lagr1980: I didn’t call you a liar Wink nobby nic and offcamber grip in one sentence just didn’t sound familiar to me Smile
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: Nobby's are excellent for trail use. Fast rolling and impressive grip during corners. The perfect set up for the trails I typically ride is NN up front and Rocket Ron in the rear. When the terrain is a little more rough I use Hans Dampf in the front and NN in the rear. Every tire has it's weakness.

If you're hitting a DH bike park and using a NN as your front tire well that's not what the tire was made for. Slap it on the rear with a nice gravity/nobbier tire up front and you got a killer combo. So the idea of having a SG NN with softer compound would be beneficial to a lot of Bike park riders out there.
  • + 3
 @LiquidSpin: I speaking about XC/Trail riding on shorter travel bike or HT. Bontragers are far better. Put on XR2 in the front and XR1 in the rear. You'll get pretty much same grip, more fun due to more predictable breakaway and they roll faster. And they are more durable. If you want a more grip run SE4 in the front and XR2 in the rear. I see you live in Virginia, you have similar trail surface to mine.

These are XR2 comp on Champery angle. The ground was wet at the bottom. Still turned.
www.instagram.com/p/BYlE_Cthrd-/?taken-by=wakidesigns
  • + 1
 I think they had a great NN before the 2013 re-design with the slightly angled side knobs. What it needed was a more durable compound like Addix and some slight reinforcing to prevent side knob fold over. This new HD looks like it would be good with the angled knobs cut off.
  • + 14
 Still the most 'velcro' tire I've ever ridden at their previous weight. Never bothered to buy another because of the insane price coupled with the poor wear characteristics. This new compound is intriguing, but I can't be bothered to take a $90 risk to find out if they actually wear better or not. Gonna have to file this in the 'wait and see' bin.
  • + 5
 Agreed. Absolutely loved the old tire... but only used them because I got them on sale!! $90 is more than a car tire...
  • + 2
 They absolutely do wear better. Not even close.
  • + 2
 Schwalbes are dirt cheap in Europe. Like most tyres can be found for around €30 if you look around. I guess it's because there are so many OE tyres knocking around
  • + 14
 I've been using a Dampf on a couple bikes and always liked them - Predictable, roll well and work in a wide variety of conditions.

And kudos to Schwalbe for not only making 26" in the new size but throwing a 24" version in there, too!
  • - 4
flag bonkywonky (Apr 28, 2018 at 13:09) (Below Threshold)
 HD predictable? Congratulations, you might be the only person on earth who likes that rubbish design. Had one on my hardtail and it was the vaguest, most unpredictable tyre I've ever tried so I quickly moved back to Maxxis.
  • + 4
 @bonkywonky: I'd say they're predictably pretty good for 3-4 hours, then all the side knobs predictably tear off then if you lean over more than 15 degrees or so, it will predictably wash out.

They may have sorted this, I'll still need a hell of a warranty to be willing to give them another chance. Hell, I feel like they already owe me a set of the new ones considering I owned a set of the old ones that wouldn't last an entire race.
  • + 15
 It's 26. It's more agressive. It's hopefully more reliable. Thank you Schwalbe for doing just what i wanted. Now I'm sure what my next tires combo will be. Magic Mary up front, new Hans Dampf at the back.
  • + 12
 26 x 2.35, 24 x 2.35. Well done Schwalbe, Well done.
  • + 9
 Don't they mean bi-directional? Uni-directional implies the tire can only be mounted one way.
  • + 8
 Non directional tires - the best thing since invention of the wheel. Said noone ever.
  • + 1
 hehehe Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
  • + 7
 27.5 x 28, not sure if I have enough clearance for that. Have not seen that size round
  • + 4
 Hans Dampf was one of the worst tires I ever ran. I’m not sure if it was the fast wear, knobs tearing, or lack of traction I hated the most. By contrast, the Magic Mary wears well and grips great. Maybe the new Hans Dampf will finally be the tire it should be.
  • + 6
 Rode a hans dampf/rock razor combo for a season, loved it till all the side blocks came off. Back on minion/aggressor combo and I ain't going back to schwalbe anytime soon.
  • + 2
 Same. I don't see any reason to change from the DHF/Aggressor combo.
  • + 2
 @Adamrideshisbike: well, depends on what you're looking for. I do care about weight and rolling resistance as much as grip and Schwalbe has the upper hand on this vs DHF/Agressor. Plus the Schwalbes are true to size, the Maxxis don't.
  • + 2
 Did any of you guys run the addix compound????
Addix soft is a way better allround than the 3c maxxis , as it doesn't hardens when it gets cold.
Running the MM and RoRa now for a few weeks, think of selling the dhf/agressor combo
  • + 2
 Schwalbe seems to have the biggest cost to good performance but fast wear ratio. Would love to try their new compound. Seems like most brands are now figuring out compounds that last with good grip. But their $95+ USD price tag still is not worth it. The new Specialized gripton compound tires are amazing. Around $60 bucks. Massive grip and slow wear.
  • + 1
 The Gripton compound was designed by the same guy (Wolfgang Arenz) that later designed the Addix compound (and even before that introduced Continental's Black Chili Compound BCC).
Apparently he now got bored and founded his own company (www.wolfpack-tires.com) to produce his own tires. Let's see how those work out. But there goes my hope that he pays Maxxis a visit next and works on their rubber compounds so that they don't fail under 5°C anymore...
  • + 5
 Previous Hans was quite good as a rear tire paired with a Magic in front. This new one looks better, I'd give it a go.
  • + 2
 I was thinking it looks like a good shout as a rear tyre, though I'd have to go super gravity as the old snakeskin ones I tried didn't hold up well at all.
  • + 1
 @DC1988: The Apex sidewall has been working well for me. But they're only available for the 2.6 Magic Mary and Nobby Nic.
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 28, 2018 at 12:01) (Below Threshold)
 @DARKSTAR63 - I assume you are running it in super dry conditions because in wet it used to be terrible. I rode Bontrager XR2 Comp for a few rides on my HT then was meant to ride with a few faster dudes so wanted more grip. So I threw on HD Trail Star and Rock Razor pace star. How surprised i was to find them evidently worse than budget version of XR2 which is a XC tyre ?? Same conditions from day on XR2 to day on HD/RR. I was swearing like a pig. HD just doesn’t say when it is going to slide from under you, I want tyres that talk. Currently Schwalbe Hans Dampf has a rather tough competition, in form of excellent Maxxis Aggressor, Bonty SE4 or Michelin Rock’R2, it just doesn’t cut it. Those angled intermediate knobs are ruining it. No channel no care
  • + 1
 @DC1988: I only ever used the super gravity model, during a time I was tearing EXO case tires regularly. I'm happily back on Maxxis using Double Down now.
  • + 2
 @DARKSTAR63: help me spend 150$ on tyres, are Double Down good? Would the rear survive laps on proper DH tracks? Otherwise I get DHF DD front and SS in DH casing. Or DD with procore in the rear.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm running DD Minion DHF-2.5/DHRII-2.3 combo right now on my enduro race bike. I like them a lot and so far holding up great to some serious abuse. If it's a park only bike and weight isn't a huge concern, I would just go folding DH case. But so far, I love the DD it seems to be sweet spot of durability and weight for me.
  • + 1
 @DARKSTAR63: I just don't like changing tyres that much. Muscling with levers and getting fkng sealant all over myself. DD is a bit of a overkill for front on my home trails, I need one for the rear though. So I bulk up only for real mountains. But last year I climbed so much on DH tyres that I am thinking of getting something slightly lighter. I may go for DHF Maxxgrip DD front and DHF dual DD rear) with procore inside. I'll see. Or just fkng Minion SS DH for the rear...
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Something is going on there, shouldn't be making that much of a mess Wink Get a good lever like the plastic Pedros ones. But I agree, I like to put them on and not take them off unless it's worn out. That's why I run DD front and rear on my main bike, which I race on. But I also trail ride locally where yes, they are generally overkill but I like to train on the bike I race. My more XC oriented steed runs EXO front and rear. I occasionally tear and flat the rear but I'd rather not carry the weight over really long rides. Finally, my ex race bike and play bike runs a DD rear and EXO front, which is the best for my more aggressive local trail rides.
  • + 1
 I also destroy EXO casings on NE rocky trails. My issue with moving to DD is that at >1000g per tire there are a lot of choices. It used to be a selling point that EXO was light and tough and not many tires in the same weight range could measure up (not tough enough, apparently)... But if you are willing to run a DD or "enduro" casing then Maxxis is definitely not the only game in town, and you get reasonable choices in the same class from Michelin, Conti, etc, with similar weight.
  • + 0
 @seburkhardt: DD is heaviest thus most promising. Continental, NEVER EVER. Aka posh Kenda.
  • + 1
 Ah so they finally updated the dentist tire. For the guy that has to have "the best" on his bike, doesn't like to lean it over, and has to have high volume to erase trail chatter, and rides it 6 days a season so he won't notice the knobs fall off.
  • + 1
 Lotta hate for Dampfs here, but on my smoother clay trails they've been great and I've been wanting a 2.6 version to come out. I have high hopes for it as a front tire. Not sure if they have released 2.6 RockRazors in a snakeskin casing yet, but I'd like one of those, too.
  • + 1
 I will wait a while and see how the new HD's fare in the long term before buying one again ...... will roll on Maxxiss till then ... tyres are expensive, and when I buy one I am buying a tyre based on good performance with a good life span. This is something that I did not get with the old HD's.
  • + 1
 How could I trust a company that made the last Hans Dampf? I guess you've just got to have a short memory as an MTB consumer. If they'd made a prototype of that tire and put it on a bike, they would have realized that the goddamn knobs would fall off.
  • + 1
 Where does the Panaracer fit in comparison to Maxxis and Schwalbe specifically something like the Dart Classic up front and a Smoke in the back. I've had great results with this combination for aggressive trail but I'm considering a change to MM and RR or something similar. Definitely no NN after reading this tread.
  • + 1
 Suggest you first try a Kenda Nevegal so you don't skip too many historical tire trends. ????
  • + 3
 yet i must be the only one running Vittoria martellos. amazing grip. super fast. and they last forever.
  • + 1
 I run a Vittoria Morsa in the back during the summer - super nice for that.
  • + 1
 First ride on my Martello 29x2.35 front this morn. Looks like a sweet tire. Turned well and hooked up well.... we’ll see how it goes. Was looking for something a little faster/smaller than the DHF 2.5 it replaced but that still has awesome traction.
  • + 5
 26 and 24 ftw!
  • + 1
 Who's your core audience? i'd be interested in a 2.6 x 29 super gravity. surely most other people riding/racing 29" #enduro bikes would be to? i know its a bit heavy but who wants punctures to ruin a ride/race run?
  • + 1
 I'm with you, but the fact is that most people prefer a lighter tyre.
  • + 2
 "A little extra height" but no measurements. "much bigger blocks than before" but no measurement. Have you guys ever heard of a ruler or dial caliper?
  • + 1
 If anyone from Schwalbe happens to read this - PLEASE make some Super Gravity tyres in Speed Grip compound so I can put one on the rear. Thanks
  • + 1
 Rock Razor SG is available in Speedgrip...
  • + 1
 @DrPete: I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think they are. According to Schwalbe's website they're only available in SnakeSkin SpeedGrip, Apex SpeedGrip and SuperGravity Soft

www.schwalbe.com/en-GB/offroad-reader/rock-razor.html
  • + 1
 @IllestT: looks like the site I was looking at isn’t accurate. Sorry about that.
  • + 2
 Mmmmmm. Magic Mary 2.6 Snakeskin Soft front, Hans Dampf 2.35 Supergravity Soft rear. Ultimate British riding combo!
  • + 2
 Anyone know when these will be available?
  • + 1
 Right after I bought my 2.6 minions. Oh well. I like the HD....been wanting this for some time
  • + 2
 Hans Dampf will never be a front tire
  • + 1
 I use them on the front of my slopestye bike for looser courses and some slalom action. Medium and hard compounds are great, but yeah the soft is way vague.
  • + 0
 Especially with a fox 36
  • + 1
 Wahoo a 27.5 x 2.8 hans dampf. That's going straight on the back of my levo. Nice one!
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 Having a stripe down your tire makes you 15% faster. 22% if the stripe is enduro blue.
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 hope the nobs don't tear off as easy as the previous ones
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 for me that wasn't the problem for the hans dampf. The problem was just they were quite useless as a front tire (poor braking+cornering grip), and they were very slow rolling as a rear tire.
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 @zede: I agree. At least if they wear out quick you can buy yourself a proper tyre when you realise the massive error you made in fitting a hans dampf. I cringe when I see them as a front tyre. And on the rear it’s just a waste of time.
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 @zede: To each his own. I've been using HD as a front tire since the last two years and been pretty happy with them. Schwalbes tend to be very pressure sensitive, so 2-3 psi more or less can make quite a difference. As a longtime Schwalbe fan, I must say they are going the right way in terms of grip and durability, which were some of the main criticisms they were facing. As for people complaining that these tires are expensive, have a look at German online shops for better prices.
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 Addix is the real deal. I gave up on Schwalbe because I was ripping off knobs and the Addix versions are wearing really well.
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 @zede: I would never use them on the front. My bike had them on as an OEM and I immediately switched them to MMs. Also, they wouldn't be my No1 pick for a rear tire...I much prefer the Spesh Butcher for that.
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 @StackingItSince1991: I've used a Butcher in front for some time (when I had a Spech) and like it too, but a bit smaller than the HD. I like big(ger) front tires.
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 @cool3: agreed. I think riding position might be a factor too
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 @zede: They were passable in dry and dusty though the side knobs lacked stiffness. And wore off pretty fast. If they fixed these two problems I'd have no problems using them as long as they were on sale for 20 USD.
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 I swear tires are the same as 15 years ago just a little fancier rubber now ha ha. Semi joking here..
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 but...will I be able to add to my cemetery of side-knobs?
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 Not with the Addix version.
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 @DrPete: Seriously? they fixed it?
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 @drudge: I've got about 100 miles on a Magic Mary/Nobby Nic 2.6 combo (Addix soft/speedgrip) and not only are knobs not tearing off but some of the hairs are still on the center knobs. I'm well beyond a mileage where knobs would've been tearing off of the old versions.
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 Totally want to try this up front in the 2.6 with the Nobby Nic on the rear.
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 First thing I did was to scroll down for a 29 x 2.35 vs 29 x 2.6 size comparison.
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 Wait, so these are E-bike certified?
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 I’m tyres of shwalbe not having a casing that lasts more than 2 weeks
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 “Retro Grouch.” Funny.
  • + 2
 It's still knob vomit.
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 A never settled mainstay.
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 Schwalbe had the edge after maxis and now maxis is king.
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 Whaaaaaat? 26 and 24 sizes?
  • - 1
 Went along with HDampf hype once: side knobs fell apart, too chubby tire, and not good in the dry!! I’m so dumb. Hope they step up this time
  • + 1
 Assegai is that you?
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 Did somebody call me?
  • + 0
 Looks like Albert got fatter.
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 Good looking tire!
  • + 1
 Looks like a Hans damfp!
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 Sans Mary
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