Results: World Cup Round 4 Leogang DH - Finals

Jun 15, 2014 at 5:20
by Matt Wragg  

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  • + 234
 Gwin faster than the girls without a tire on. Pinning it forsure
  • + 125
 Can't believe how fast he was going, utterly ridiculous.
  • + 64
 How the hell did he blaze that track on a rim? Gwinsane, hope they sort his tires for next round. Congrats to Ratboy!
  • + 85
 His rim still looked perfect, that's some great advertising
  • + 41
 What wheel is he running!? Need to get myself one Big Grin
  • + 219
 "Rear wheel up for sale. Condition: good. Only used it for 1 race"
  • + 11
 He wasn’t even running a DH Spec rim, apparently it was a Enduro rim... srsly... :o
  • + 32
 I was thinking the same thing, whoever is supplying their rims will be showing that one off forever. He bulldozed the rock garden with nothing but rim. Showing some true balls and sportsmanship there. Unfortunate run for Stevie and Bruni, they were both on pace for podiums.
  • + 49
 Gwin rolls like a true dh gangster
  • + 16
 ridiculous. those rims surely got some grip
  • + 4
 Believe he's actually on the Specialized Roval rims!
  • + 11
 it should be 300pts, coz he doesn't have a tire on Wink
  • + 15
 Insane! The tire he was dragging actually slowed him down.
  • + 31
 B E A S T M O D E !! That was pure determination to maintain his overall. Craziest performance ever.
  • + 8
 troy is the overall leader now
  • + 5
 What rims is he on, I want them, they must be strong as hell to survive that and still in a vaguely round shape.
  • + 10
 Specialized/Roval wheels are made by DT Swiss as far as I know.
  • + 6
 i assume dt swiss EX 471
  • + 4
 He has run EX471 Enduro rims in the past are they the same this season?

They are EX471 in this photo added 9 days ago
www.iamspecialized.com/members/aarongwin
  • + 36
 3 people need a beer tonight Ratboy for wining Gwinn for beast mode Pekol for still being alive!
  • - 4
flag Warren569 (Jun 15, 2014 at 7:59) (Below Threshold)
 Maybe it was the wheelset being so stiff that blew his tyre in the first place.......good to see everyone give him a standing ovation at the finish though!!
  • + 9
 Today we finally learned that... Tires company are stealing our money! We don't need tires... Look at Gwin... Big Grin
  • + 25
 Gwin @ timing booth before run: "hold my beer, watch this"
  • + 27
 In all fairness, he would of smashed most of us without that tire, not just the girls.
  • + 8
 Honest question, would his time sans tire beat most PB users down that course? I think it would. It'd crush my abilities that's for sure.
  • - 2
 Absolutely. Fierce competitor! Btw, I was joking about the beer comment. Doubt that dude is anywhere near the suds come World Cup time.
  • + 3
 #Grimming
  • + 43
 Gwin's 27.5 without a tire is actually a 24"!!!! 24's rule, FTW!!!!
  • + 2
 The overall is going to be tight, we might have a new overall winner
  • + 5
 cornered like he was on rails!
  • + 4
 So disappointing to see any get a flat. Whether its schwalbe, or other product, these guys need to figure it out.
  • + 2
 ^he was haha, pizza cutter action
  • + 7
 Gwins time was fast enough to qualify , thats probably about 80 percent of this forum beaten then Razz
  • - 1
 It just happens w tubeless + low pressure. The tradeoff is tubes with tons of pinchflats and more weight
  • + 1
 Yes, yes, and yes...then pinkbike needs to post pucs from the after party!
  • + 1
 A nice big fat (and fully deserved) "W" for Ratboy.
  • + 1
 I'm pretty sure Gwins time WOULD have beaten most non-pros down that track, considering he would have taken 10th in the Pro Woman's, and they ain't slow... Unbelievable ride!
  • + 1
 Cheered the crowd for gwin... total salute
  • + 102
 fuck yes Bryceland! my fantasy team finally gets a win!
  • - 2
 Cheers mate
  • + 8
 Awesome ratboy
  • + 15
 Yeah but it's such a shame for Minnaar to get dqed in Cairns for stuff that other people got away with in the past. He would have a fair chance to win the overall but with the shit rule interpretation of the uci guys it's all gone for him...
  • + 5
 yeah unlucky and stuff... but RAT BOYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • - 77
flag droplover (Jun 15, 2014 at 8:34) (Below Threshold)
 yes, props to Bryceland for winning, but we all know it was only because someone else got a flat Wink
  • + 37
 Excuses don't change the podium...I would have been a millionaire IF I bought the correct ticket
  • + 3
 Yeah RATBOY!!!!!!
  • + 37
 Patiently waiting for the "This is peaty" Ratboy special after-party footage.

Go RAT!
  • + 22
 Yeah ratboy! Show them 650b hipsters where it's at
  • + 5
 Yes! finally scratch one for Ratboy, f***in legend!
  • - 37
flag CaliCol (Jun 15, 2014 at 13:03) (Below Threshold)
 What I don't get is that Droplover writes his opinion and Pinkbike stops posting it because it receives a certain rating from other Pinkbike users. Proper English folk probably! So what? he has an opinion! I think Gwin would have won if he wouldn't have had a flat, but he didn't, and that's life! Droplover merely stated his opinion, but because he did not make concessions to the English people (Bryceland) he is chastised! I am an American and I am stoked that Josh won, but I am a huge Gwin fan and wish that he would have won! Our sport is unique in that it is relatively free of politics and bullshit (unlike the road scene), and we should all take each others comments with a grain of salt because I am willing to bet that Droplover would buy any of us a pint after a WC round to celebrate the sport of DH. Y'all that knit-pick and complain about petty things probably don't know what a hard life is. GET A LIFE.
  • + 26
 CaliCol, where I come from, we have a thing called a tanty scull. Basically when someone has an undue rant or tantrum (hence the name "tanty"), you call them out on it, and they have to finish their beer.

I call tanty scull on you sir haha.
  • + 17
 More than likely that Loic would have won, not Gwin, even if he didn't flat @CaliCol, @Droplover.

Loic was fastest in both splits and then crashed. I think the probability would have been higher than Loic would have taken it than Gwin, but hey, these are all "what if's", and the simple fact is that Gwin did flat, and Loic crashed, and Ratboy won. Same thing could have been said about the ladies last weekend, with 3 of the top contenders flatting, but hey, that's just part of racing.

We will never know, but saying something like "he only won because someone else got a flat" is pretty darn disrespectful to the guys who didn't flat and made it to the bottom faster. Don't be a poor loser. Wink
  • + 10
 Gutted for bernard kerr , guess his did go over a pole then Don't think he gained anything from doing it other than shitting his pants praying to not miss the landing.
  • + 22
 People keep saying "Loic would of won if he didn't crash" but the fact is he was going faster than he could control and he crashed rat boy was fast and in control that's why he won not because loic crashed and its unfair to try and take that away from rat boy!
  • + 19
 It's the old auto racing proverb, "To finish first, you must first finish". Who here remembers the 2007 World Champs at Fort William when he punctured during his run in the junior's final? Big congrats to Ratboy! It's been a long time coming and truly well deserved.
  • + 4
 Your countering your own argument in talking about Gwin. DH racing is about riding a fine line between fast and in control. Loic was pushing to his edge and lost control therefore he exceeded his line. Gwins situation is different being a mechanical. I can only tell you how many times I heard a racer say if I didn't crash I would have won....for you not to crash you probably would've been going a bit slower and might not have had the win. Close, probably, and should've have no meaning in our sport. Ratboy won! End of story and excuses.
  • + 3
 1992 worlds - Dave Cullinan jumped over the poles and landed back inside on his way to the gold. Would he have been DQd by today's rules?

650b suck my cook! Go on Ratty!
  • + 1
 jaame, that's not quite right. What Cullinan did was that he jumped across a bridge everyone else just rode across. The bridge was under the chairlift, and the story was that he had to time it so the chair was not passing over at that moment or he would hit it. I think the danger of the lift chairs being low enough to hit was probably exaggerated for the sake of a good story, but he never went off course.
  • + 5
 Usually when the pros flat its because they've made a mistake anyway somewhere, so I dont think its all that far from a crash
  • + 1
 @Iamwathog I was under the impression the briodge exit was on a corner and he was doing an over and back inside the tapes jump through the chairs. Still, I was only 12 at the time and I just read about it.
  • + 5
 The tyre didn't puncture itself did it?
Best rider on the day won the race and that's it. He's had two podiums so far this year.
  • + 1
 Buzzing for the Ratser! Been coming and coming, 2nd in Cairns and was up at first split in Pietrmartizburg before his mechanical! Just wish he did it last week at Fort Bill so I could of witnessed it Wink Counting down the days til the next This is Peaty...
  • + 1
 Errr, CaliCol. I'm sorry to say, your rant (and it is nothing more than that) is not only stupid, and disrespectful to an amazing rider who's been on course for a win all season. It's also pretty obviously quite racist. So in short, whats your f*cking problem? Ratboy won, cos he got down the mountain fastest that day. Stop making excuses so you can pretend your countryman was the fastest. Gwin put down a sick run. I was laughing my arse off and screaming for him to go faster and keep it upright all the way down. But he didn't win. Because he made a mistake somewhere and blew his tyre out. Poor guy, awesome rider.
  • + 1
 It was a great race and fun to watch. Ratboy won, Brosnan podiumed, and Gwin earned a few more fans with his 1-tired run. DH racing is an awesome sport. I have attended and participated in a few races. Crowds at DH races are the best, and I live in the US. I could only imagine how much fun it would be to go to a race in Europe. @CaliCol, If I ever get the opportunity to attend a WC race there, I will buy all a pint of their favorite brew to say I partied with some of the rowdiest folks on the planet. That would make for one helluva story when I got home!!!
  • + 1
 @jaamme, It's not your memory that's wrong, that is the way the race was reported. The problem is all the magazines just exaggerated to make a good story, and that telling has become the legend that most people believe, Here is part of the tv broadcast from the race and it does show Jimmy Deaton riding across the same bridge, and you can see that it's pretty straight and not directly under the lift.
youtu.be/KFxL8yQakrk .
Cullinan is the next rider down. Unfortunately there is no footage of Cullinan when he jumped the bridge, but if you google image search Dave Cullinan 1992 world championships, there is one photo of it and you can see he is inside the railing.
  • + 2
 Wow, thanks for that Iamwarthog. Great to see old clips of the narrow bars and lycra. I can see it was pretty well exaggerated!
  • + 2
 Tanty scull? I heed. Beer drank! Racist? No. My problem? I think I very clearly stated my problem. Read my post again. Cheers, Gents!
  • + 62
 WELL DONE RATBOY!!! unlucky to loic, he was on it! However, WELL DONE RATBOY!!!!! victory at last!!
  • + 16
 Without a doubt you have to feel bad for Loic but for sure his time will come. Ratboy was definitely due for a win. Congrats Josh.
  • + 4
 Bryceland makes his V10 look like a BMX bike. So technical, yet so fast.
  • + 53
 Can we end the wheel debate now? 26" are as fast as any other wheel size (I ride 650b)
  • + 41
 And 650b riders are now winning XC races over the 29'er guys... Forget the hype and ride whatever YOU feel comfortable on.
  • + 12
 [insert random mtb "Journalist"]: BUT MUH 650B MARKETING!!! IT'S DEFINATELY FASTER GUISE!!!!
  • + 0
 Today they were faster.
  • + 2
 Yeah, I'm sure 650b isn't going anywhere, but I bet you'll see more people on different sizes in the future instead of everyone pushing for one wheel size.
  • + 15
 I met a woman on a ride a couple of weeks ago who was selling her shiny new carbon 26" bike because she felt that the wheels were holding her back. I found it hard not to burst into laughter.
  • + 4
 Welp.. I just bought myself a new 26" carbon XC/AM bike last week, so I guess that evens it out.

She might be right though. Unskilled riders are usually faster on a 29'er that doesn't require nearly as much attention and understanding of the track surface, because they more easily plow through bumps, roots, rocks etc.
  • + 4
 Until they hit a switchback
  • + 2
 Just ride......whatever size. Just ride.
  • + 1
 Forget it guys, it's just another GoPro ad!
  • + 2
 1st: 26"
2nd: 26"
Everyone else: 27.5"


God it feels good typing that Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
  • + 54
 Gwin riding on metal! Still faster than all of us.
  • + 2
 Exactly what I was thinking when he crossed the line
  • + 41
 1st Place 26"
2nd Place 26"

Thank You Santa Cruz for showing everyone out there that wheel size doesn't matter!!!
  • + 37
 Santa Cruz keep in it wheel
  • + 37
 Keep this up and PB might even start to review 26" bikes again!
  • + 14
 Deeeeight conspicuously absent from this discussion.
  • + 9
 I agree! Everyone on the 650B messed up in middle section.
  • + 2
 wheel size doesn't matter.
  • + 4
 I've been watching the last couple races from last season with a few of the 650b bikes ridden by some of the top guys.. and I'd have to say that seriously the 26 inch wheel bike looks smoother and able to pop and get through the rough stuff so much easier and also the riders on the 26 just get in and out of the corners way faster. I dunno man... I'm not a world cup dude, and if the top racers in the world look like they are struggling with the bigger wheels than their closest equal on a 26, then for an average dude that wants to have fun on his bike... I'll stick with the 26 I think.
I think that just some of the world cup riders on the top of their game are able to muscle the bigger wheeled bikes around. Not that the bike itself is faster, but that's why they're on the top step. They make the equipment do what they want... I dunno. Does that make sense ?

Retro race maybe.... All the top 10-15 riders have to do a 2nd run on the 26 and see. haha. ( such a stupid idea )
  • - 4
flag ScaryGerry (Jun 15, 2014 at 20:34) (Below Threshold)
 reminder people...

Gwin=Flat
Bruni=Crash

Both were faster on 650B...
  • + 1
 as a guy who is now riding a 650b bike it feels so close to 26" that if you told me I was on smaller wheels I would believe you. they seem like they handle the same, corner the same, but rolling might be slightly better. its so close that I couldn't quantify it. It definitely won't hold anyone back on a dh bike on a dh track, but I don't think 26" would be any worse. they wheels are that close. so if handling is virtually the same you may as well go with the wheel that rolls faster, no?
  • + 3
 Same as on our trail rides around here - the bikes that seem to always puncture and make a nuisance of themselves, frankly, have big wheels - coz their riders, and tyre manufacturers, are too sh1t-scared of the extra weight to scale them up properly to be as tough as 26in equivalent. How may recent tyre reviews have you seen where the 650B version is hardly any heavier than the 26in, and the 29er tyre just a handful of percent heavier instead of 12% heavier? 2 x pie x r. Just observing what I've seen.
  • + 4
 @WayneParsons

Handling is virtually the same but rolling speed is faster on a 27.5"?
Or how about Rolling speed is virtually the same but handling is better on a 26"?

See what I did there?
  • + 3
 ^ yup, either way its splitting hairs
  • + 2
 I agree. You could say that you are technically more likely to flat on bigger wheels due to more surface area being in contact with the ground. Probably makes no difference though. I'm still looking forward to trying 27.5 soon but that's just because I've been suckered in through all the hype.
  • + 3
 @ScaryGerry
They weren't faster were tho were they? That'll be why they didn't win.
  • + 1
 what? How now brown cow?
  • - 1
 @gabrriel-mission9, 27.5 faster sorry! One day you will have no choice but to hop on the train and when you do you will be wondering why you wasted so much time denying that fact...
  • + 1
 Looks like clips are faster than flats, based on WC results. Maybe they should stop making flat pedals and we can start ridiculing everyone who prefers flat pedals for being luddites and PB whiners. A good start would be changing the threads on cranks so they only accept the new standard of clips and call it progress for extra strength and stiffness. Back it up with a BB length change so that new frames only take the new cranks; that'll really get this train moving.
Or maybe they should just let the consumer decide on factors other than what is 'maybe' 1% faster for them if improving their time by a bee's dick is not as high on their list of priorities as getting sideways.
  • + 1
 @Scary Gerry. 27.5 is faster on the more boring bits of track. Thats why road riders all ride 29ers and BMXers all ride tiny wheels. Tiny wheels are more nimble, sorry! One day you will ride a proper gnarly track and you will be wondering why that old luddite on a 26er is skidding around, right on your tail making annoyed noises every time you slam your brakes on for a corner or really gnarly section.

Funny you seem to think its a FACT that 27.5 is faster despite the 26" 1-2 at the last wc. I assume everyone but minaar and bryce just had an off day yeah?
  • + 2
 When you factor in all the tight turns, gnar, and wide open sections, all three wheel sizes are about the same speed. Its when you have one type of terrain is when you might see a difference. My 27.5" wheels seem to pull away from my friend's 26" wheels on smooth downhills, but that could come down to hub bearings. I have a friend who tested the wheels back to back to back on the same track, same tires, and virtually the same bike. While one size wheel would excel in one area, the other would suffer. 27.5" seemed to be more middle of the road in terms of performance. But after it was all said and done, there wasn't a clear advantage in using either size.
  • + 2
 ah the voice of reason. Some sizes are faster here, others are faster there. In the end it comes down to personal preference. Until they stop selling 26" that is....
  • + 1
 Only time will tell boys...

Gabriel-mission9, I totally disagree with the 27.5's being faster in only the boring bits of the track. Fort Bill is made for 27.5 wheels and there is nothing boring on that track in my eyes. 90% of the teams have transferred to 27.5, are you saying sir, of all people, that you sir know more then team managers with engineers that are paid to make sure their bikes are as fast as fast can be??? What is the problem? Why cant 27.5 be the faster wheel? What difference does it make to you anyways? Why are you such an avid defender of the dinosaur wheel you call 26? Technological advancements are present in all facet's of life. It's what humans do. We evolve. Why do you refuse to? And another thing boy, I've been riding gnar trails when you were in diapers, I think I know what they are about. In 20 years, ain't nobody tail me that wasn't my buddy...

And to finish off. YES, Everyone but Minnaar and Bryce had an off day at the office. Did you watch the race?
  • + 3
 @ScaryGerry
Stop calling wheelsize technology. It's no more 'technology' than wider bars, fatter grips, longer stems, wider tires or larger T'shirts. Whether it's faster or not is irrelevant to whether it's technology.

Not everyone cares about 1% faster, (and whether it even is, on all tracks, is debateable). They handle differently. Some people will prefer the way one handles, while others will prefer the other. Why are all you 27.5 fanbois so adamant that we must all feel the same way, and jump on board just to satisfy your desire to kill something you don't prefer to ride?

I have tried about five different 27.5s and one of them I had for a week. I have not liked any of them as much as what I have now. It's called preference. For some reason, people like you like to sling abuse and insults towards those who don't share your preference.

Do you get on BMX forums and tell them that their wheels are too small? Some people happen to like riding 20" bikes. I don't and never likely will. But I don't want to take them away from them. Ride what you like and let the rest of us do the same. At least, for as long as we are able to buy parts.
  • + 2
 Aww. Worked yourself into a bit of a tizzy there didn't you Gerry? Cute.
So anyway... Sir or Boy? Which is it? As far as I know my date of birth is not mentioned on my profile, so your claim that you have been riding gnarly trails since I was in diapers is as unsubstantiated as your claim that 27.5 is faster everywhere. Wanna know the best way to make your argument look laughable? Make unsubstantiated claims....
I am not saying I know more than team managers about performance. I am 100% saying I care more about real world performance (and likely know a reasonable amount more) than the marketing fool who convinced you that 27.5 was all advantages with no drawbacks. If you believe that than I am afraid you sir (or boy?) are living in a fantasy world.
What difference does it make to me? I'll tell you. I am not made of money. My current bike is awesome and does not need any upgrades, however the way things are going with all these noobs buying big wheels my bike is being pushed into unnecessary and forced obsolescence just so big bike companies can sell more stuff. I have no problem with people buying big wheels. I have a massive problem with 26" parts production being stopped, due to a stupid fashion, cuasing me to have to fork out £££££'s next time i pringle a rim, rather than £££'s. I have been riding bikes long enough to see many stupid fashions come and go. I fear this one will leave a scar.
  • + 2
 If you were indeed riding gnar when I was in diapers then you may well be better suited to a 27.5 or even a 29er. Old guys tend not to have to strength to go fast in the corners any more so have to make up for it on the straights. A bigger wheel will indeed help you there. I however don't give a flying f**k how fast I go on the straights. I think DH is all about corner speed.
If no-one has tailed you in 20 years i suggest you get out there and ride more. Last person who I didn't know, who caught up with me on a track was richie rude jr. He would have caught you too.
And yes I did watch the race. Your claim that everyone else "had a bad day at the office" is laughable. Everyone else lost, cos on the day they didn't ride as well as Minnaar or Bryce. Stop making excuses
  • + 0
 @Kramster, I am not trying to get everyone to ride 27.5''... Everyone's preferences is not what I am debating here. I am just saying that for WC Racing, 1% faster is enough to win the race or lose the race. For us weekend warriors, it makes little to no difference what wheel size you have under you... I know dick all about BMX so I have no comment. I agree with you 100% on that. Where I do not agree with you is where you say that wheel size, tire width, bar width and stem length is not technology. These are definitely technological advancements in the sport.

@gabriel-mission9 Oh boy, where to start with you... First of all, I know you are not old from what you say. This is not an unsubstantiated claim. You are captain of all unsubstantiated claims. What do you know about my riding and how frequently I ride? I rode National for 5 years and I am damn proud of the way ride still today. I handle corners just fine thank you for your concern.

I've been through ALL the advancements in DH. If you don't have the money to upgrade your bike to follow the pack, may I suggest doing some odd jobs around the neighborhood? Cutting grass, emptying gutters a paper route perhaps??? Maybe washing your daddies car?

Don't worry about me, I don't get into Tizzies whatever the F*ck that is... Also this not the place to be finding older man cute, i'm just saying...

Cheers!
  • + 1
 You know how old I am not from what I say? Whats that then? how about some facts to go with your opinions? How am I the captain of unsubstantiated claims? I can give you plenty of examples of ones you have made. Lets have 1 example of one I have made....

I know nothing about how often you ride apart from the fact that you claim never to have been caught up with. This suggests to me you are either Gee Atherton, or you just don't ride with other ppl much. I am not concerned with how you handle corners at all. I merely stated that if you are as old as you claim to be, perhaps it is time for you to get on a bigger wheel as they are very suitable for old men. You have been through ALL the advancments in DH? So you started riding in 1900 did you? I guess you are even older than i thought. You clearly do get into a tizzy quite easily. I can tell by the rather personal nature of your retort.

Must say your last comment hints at a mild case of homophobia. Shame. Just to clarify. I am a straight guy. I found your comment cute in the way i find it cute when a 3 week old puppy tries to growl at me. Perhaps sweet would have riled up your homophobic tendencies less? Whatever mate. I can see you struggle with the difference between "having a discussion" and "internet warrior flaming" so I'll just back away from this one.
  • + 3
 ScaryGerry quotes

"I am not trying to get everyone to ride 27.5''... Everyone's preferences is not what I am debating here."
"Why are you such an avid defender of the dinosaur wheel you call 26?"
"27.5 faster sorry! One day you will have no choice but to hop on the train and when you do you will be wondering why you wasted so much time denying that fact..."
"Technological advancements are present in all facet's of life. It's what humans do. We evolve. Why do you refuse to?"

May wish to spend more time presenting yourself differently if your intent is being misunderstood. But it seems pretty clear to me that you are displaying contempt for anyone that refuses to 'evolve' to a bigger wheel, since they will have no choice one day; lest they become dinosaurs. You're making pretty big assumptions this early in the game to say that on all tracks for all riders that one is universally superior to the other.

One factor that has been overlooked... most technical trails top speed is determined by the amount the rider touches the brakes. Not by how fast that bike is able to go. The top speed then becomes more relative to the riders ability to control the bike and make quick line changes and rail corners. This is not the case in pedally tracks where riders would go faster if they could, which seems to be the way WC is going unfortunately. But the world is full of tracks where the last thing you are doing is trying to push the bike to go faster into corners. To say that one wheel size is all advantage without any disadvantage is foolish, and only makes your argument look weak. You may be right, that 650B is faster at Pietermaritzburg, but I would bet money that it wouldn't be the case everywhere and under everybody.
  • + 2
 kramster. your final paragraph = perfection. you put into words quite concisely everything i have been trying and failing to say. much respect to you
  • + 33
 Does Manon speak the same language as Ratboy or have I just lost my language abilities? Great ride anyway!
  • - 9
flag alexisfire (Jun 15, 2014 at 6:08) (Below Threshold)
 I could barely understand her words, but I had no idea what she was trying to say...
  • + 25
 the rat language!
  • + 14
 I can't believe she is beating rachael on a regular basis. Rachael was so far ahead the last couple years its good to see a challenger
  • + 6
 Rachel is still recovering.
  • + 12
 And the rat takes it!!! fuck yeah
  • + 13
 Thanks mate! you make me feel better. I've been studying English for more than TEN years and still found Manon a little difficult to understand. Almost the same as my first time hearing Ratboy!
  • + 13
 Don't worry I'm from Manchester, and I barely understand the Rat!
  • + 10
 Sure Rachel is still in recovery mode, but Manon literally smashed the course like one of the guys. She attacks the course and sees lines like the guys do. Watching her ride in first person was actually very impressive.
  • + 2
 Most of the UK speaks in a regional dialect, so don't expect hear what you call English if you come here on holiday
  • + 2
 @pospist - I had a vision reading your post of Manon and Josh having a child. That child would probably be the most fluent speaker of all mankind somehow. lol
  • + 3
 @RaleighVoid I got my Master degree in the UK so I totally understand what you are saying. I was in Durham at that time and the northeast accent did give me some trouble at the beginning. But, Ratboy's English (or we should name it another language?) really frustrated me when I first heard him. Now Manon is here. Just like @Piniator said, it would be interesting how their child would be speaking like.

Anyway, two excellent riders and congrats for their wins!
  • + 2
 Ahh Durhams beautiful nice one. Funny mix of posh (rah rah students) and local accents
  • + 1
 @RaleighVoid Exactly! Actually I went back to Durham at the beginning of May. Still same old town and make me recall those days riding my Rockhopper through it.
  • + 31
 I think gwin.had the most skillfull ride.....how the hell did he hold that!!!
  • + 13
 He even railed that nasty right hander where a lot of guys went down. I was scared watching him!
  • + 31
 Gwin is mental, but he just put on an excellent demo for the durability of whoever's wheels he's riding.
  • + 28
 His run had me on the edge of my seat and laughing at the same time. I kept waiting for that rim to go. Crazy run, and cool to see he seemed to find the humor in the run himself. Awesome victory for Ratboy finally!
  • + 16
 Gwin went down twice as fast as I could and that is without a tire. That's one hell of a Rim.
  • + 2
 I think he has a few less haters after today...that was ridonkulous. I would imagine he was letting his frustrations out on the tire/rim and also trying desperately to salvage some points. Good to see him put on a show despite all of that. Legendary!
  • + 28
 Dear Trek, please put Brook back on a 26. We miss the bulldog charging down the Mtn at a controlled reckless pace.
  • + 2
 Agreed. He had the fastest speed of the top 5 and seemed wildly speedy at both splits... It's gotta be heartbreaking to not pull out a win at that sort of velocity.
  • + 11
 Yes... Trek. 26 session please for your world cup riders. That or bring back the original F1 exhaust noise...
  • + 29
 FUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
  • + 23
 Soooo gutted for Bruni! he was on it!!! Ratboy does deserve it though.
  • + 8
 Congrat for him, he's a good guy, I'm just bummed ....
  • + 3
 Yeah same, i really thought bruni was gonna take it!
  • - 2
 BURN THAT F*****G FRAME !!!
  • + 2
 As much as you have to pull for Ratboy, I was hoping Loic pulled one out of the bag as well. I like both riders, so I was happy one of them was going to get the win. Tough way to lose it - on the last techy corner on the track, really. He'll get one very soon I'm sure!!
  • + 26
 What the hell!!! 26inches on the top step???!!! haha
  • + 23
 U mean top 2 steps! Smile
  • + 22
 The sad realization that Gwin goes faster WITHOUT tires than I probably would WITH tires...
How did the rim survive that beating?!
  • + 21
 Massively stoked for Bryceland! Looks like the last few years have finally come together for him! Unlucky for Bruni too, that fella was flying!
  • + 2
 Bruni will win one of these soon enough, I don't doubt it one bit. Bryceland has been thru enough of those to where he finally had the best run for a change...finally! I would imagine the party is still going on and it's sunrise over there.
  • + 17
 f*ckING RATBOY!
#26forlife
  • + 2
 BOOYAH! Ratboy! ... when i saw him qualifying 3rd... i had it in my morning piss today, that he's gonna win this!
  • + 13
 Stoked beyond words for Josh, pretty gutted for Bruni though, Gwin is just a madman/mental, happy/relieved for Minnaar to pull another top result in his 101st world cup (legend!) and cool to see Brosnan have a go at wearing the leaders jersey next round. Big shake up again in the overall, it's really anyone's this year, its shaping up to be the best season in a few years!
  • + 4
 Well put. You have to go back several-to-many years to see the overall as tight as it currently sits. It always seems to be a 2-3 man race in recent years. A different winner each race as well. I hope Rob Warner's heart can hold up down the homestretch of this season!
  • + 16
 YES RATBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 14
 Ratboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The next episode of This Is Peaty is going to be mental!!!
  • + 13
 GWIN IS THE BEST!!!! NUMBER 1 INCREDIBLE RUN OF EVER......THE KING OF RIMS
  • + 9
 That was an amazing run. I knew there was no way he could win but found myself pumping fists in the air and screaming as he flew down the mountain on that rim! Insane run, and he even seemed to find the event a bit funny. A true champion.
  • + 7
 Notice he kept getting faster as he realized tires are over-rated? Almost like he learned how to ride WC downhill on a rim over the course of 2 minutes. I was scarred for him but super stoked he decided to pin it on the rim!!
  • + 4
 Yeah, Gwin took the show, if not the points, in my opinion. That was just awesome riding.
  • + 4
 Yeah.. I have to say I enjoyed that show of ... ah heck lets try this and see what happens attitude .. I was just hoping at that speed the tire didn't lock up and throw Gwin off the bike... that would have been bad Frown obviously.
  • + 13
 Rat Boy killing it, Congrats mate. Love Warner on Bruni, Faster that a Austrian Transvestite,
  • + 2
 That is one of the first things I heard this morning...made my day!
  • + 13
 Thanks Santa Cruz for showing, that the wheel size does´t matter
  • + 6
 doesn´t
  • + 11
 Go on Ratty lad. Stoked as fuck. Gracious in victory saying he felt bad for Bruni. Props.
  • + 2
 He knows that feeling all too well. Good on him and hope the party never ends!
  • + 8
 Bryceland deserved this one, Bruni was unlucky. Gwin is insanely quick without tyres and great to see him smiling at the end still. Super happy for Manon as well. What a race!!!
  • + 11
 Anyone else can't get live feed on red bull to work?
  • - 1
 The page wont load
  • + 2
 Ok thanks.
  • + 19
 Works for me. Doyglas nothing personal but many pages won't load behind the Great Firewall of China Smile
  • + 2
 Thanks @Extremmist, Yes the Great Chinese Firewall sucks, after playing with the VPN's I got it going
  • + 12
 RAAATTTTBOOOOYY!
  • + 9
 BULLDOG & BRANNIGAN !!!!! AWESOME KIWIS !!!!
Stoked for Josh tho 1st Win !!!!
  • + 10
 Leogang?
  • + 8
 Ratboy winns!!!! Glad that I actually understood what he said in the interview!!!
  • + 1
 i think he put on his best tounge! Big Grin
  • + 10
 This is….. RATBOY!
  • + 6
 Question... How many top riders even rode 26? And the only 2 guys on em got 1 and 2? 650b could be a clear disadvantage. And when u watch the riding, 26 just looks way more radical.
  • + 6
 650 will be a disadvantage on some courses--this being one of them. You are right about it looking more radical for sure. 26 just makes it look like the rider is owning the bike 100%. Also, it could be my eyes playing tricks on me but I swear under super hard cornering I can see the 650 wheels flexing the frame massively. Especially right before loic goes down I saw a massive flex
  • + 5
 This course has a huge flat out speed section, if the hype was true then the bigger wheels should have been more advantageous.
  • + 4
 Yeah but if you look at where the big gains and losses were made it was in all the steep tech sections and tight corners
  • + 5
 i always considered myself a good english speaker. gotta change that after not being able to understand ONE SINGLE WORD coming out ratboy's mouth Big Grin still, stoked for him. 4 races, 4 different winners. what a championship.
  • + 9
 JOSH YOU BEAUTY!
  • + 6
 After Gwins flat I wanted Ratboy to win so bad but not because Bruni wrecked. That was one hell of a wc round!!
  • + 7
 A RAT on a 26 inch wheel!!!! Holy Smokes!!!!
  • + 3
 I can't beleive Bernhard Kerr was DQed on his best run in ages. From the live stream it appeared he did not pass a pole on the wrong side of the tape, but after he'd been over it they moved the tape out by a few meters to stop it happening again, giving an advantage to following riders. Ridiculous.
  • + 7
 LOÏC NOOOOOO!!!!
  • + 2
 Less than 250pts separate the top-9 men in the overall with a couple others just beyond that mark. You have to go back a loooooong way to see it this tight past the midway point of any season...if it's even been this tight ever before. We've yet to see anybody win a second race this season as well. I haven't seen anybody else mention the coverage today. Good on Red Bull to show some of the techy spots on-course today. The cable-cam up top was pretty sweet as well. Keep up the great work!!
  • + 1
 true, the coverage today was pretty epic!!
  • + 5
 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSH! At long last! Inmense respect for Gwin.
  • + 2
 Wow. What an amazing WC round. So happy that RatBoy took his first win. I can't believe that Troy is now leading the WC overalls. Looks like its going to come down to a battle between the two specialized riders. Its going to be an interesting season.
  • + 2
 how hard was gwinn pumping it on the berms that he rolled off a tire! then he proceeded to go faster than the other athletes (not to mention 90% of us).

chuckled when he just shrugged at the finish line and pointed up to the sky to thank the Man above. good advert for the rim! i am curious, what rims does he run?
  • + 3
 He tweeted / instagrammed #thankyoudtswissforstrongrims. So, DT Swiss, but I'm not sure what model.
  • + 1
 EX471
  • + 5
 Ratboy!!!!! Yeah: As Rob Warner said, spirit of mountain biking is still alive, today is a great day for mountain biking!!
  • + 1
 best guy around! just having fun and winning... best combination ever!
  • + 6
 Round 4 Leogang!!!
  • + 3
 Congratulations to Ratboy! Now I want to see if he is going to sing God save the queen Smile

btw Gwin was insane riding that only on the rim
  • + 1
 Yeah Ratboy, bummer for Loic...helluva run....but Gwin that was absolutely spectacular! Puting it in perspective, I know some very fast DH riders that can't quite match Jill Kitners time in local races. To go 20 seconds faster with no tire is INSANE!
  • + 2
 Actually 2 seconds slower than Jill but crazy
  • + 2
 O Fu yeah....major congrats to rat-a-tat-dat -boy..........woo hoo ..feelbad for bruni...dam , gwin ridi with no rear tire..next time ...... Another amazing race!!!!!!!!1 RAT-BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
  • + 4
 What a race!!!......can't wait to see the "don't know what he's sayin" comments ha ha........sick run!!!
  • + 6
 Rat boy!!!!
  • + 6
 Rat Boy finaly did it
  • + 4
 Ratboy looks happy as a clam. Well deserved..
  • + 0
 there's anyone betting for this season overall because if there is they going to have a though time to decide the best wc season so far in my humble opinion no one is favorite and anybody of the top five can reach the overall exciting to say the least good luck to the racers and thanks for the show. P.S. I think this year world champs is going to be unfit for cardiac by the way things are rolling rigth now everybody is pinned
  • + 1
 With Bryceland finally getting one under his belt, Fairclough should step it up. These guys are the best Peaty disciples.. Also, I'm amazed of Minnaar in 2nd. It seemed like he wasn't into this race.
  • + 2
 and then i'm going for a depression during the next month seeing again in my dreams the run of Bruni... Frown f*ck that Bruni why?? You deserved it Frown
  • + 5
 The guy who rides fastest on any given day is the one who deserves it
  • + 2
 Fastest from point A to point B, whatever the splits are or how it goes down is irrelevant
  • + 1
 you brits didn't say that when peaty crashed at world championships in les Gets 2004!! Double standards i think... Anyway Bruni will win, it's a matter of time
  • + 1
 He will indeed, and in some style no doubt. But this sunday, it was Ratboy who held it all together. Legend in the making I reckonSmile
  • + 2
 So pleased for manon rach and tahnee seagrave makes up for a gutting fort bill last weekend. so stoked for ratboy get in finally a sport us brits are good at.
  • - 1
 Links not working for me
  • - 1
 same here
  • + 1
 it just doesn't work for mobile, i switched to a computer and it works fine. LETS DO THIS
  • + 6
 Is it just me or is Ragot looking delicious this season?
  • + 4
 CONGRATS "RATBOY" you got your FIRST of MANY TO COME!!!
  • + 4
 What a great race, so stoked for Miami Bryce!!!
  • + 3
 RATBOYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 3
 What hapened to loris vergier?
  • + 4
 RATBOOOOOOOOOY!!!!
  • + 4
 26" 1st and 2nd
Big Grin
  • + 6
 Fastest riders 1st and 2nd.
  • + 4
 Ratitude!!
  • + 2
 Wow after Leogang 2014, the evolution of the mountain bike wheel has taken a new turn - with or without rubber anyone? Smile
  • + 2
 cant wait for this is peaty
  • + 1
 22" wheel size are faster than most of us on any wheel size. Just look at Gwin!
  • + 1
 Fucking ratboy, knew he was gonna do well!!! Let's hope this is his year!!!
  • + 2
 Hey pinkbike

How's about a review on 26' bikes?
  • + 2
 Anyone else really impressed with the redbull coverage this time?
  • + 2
 I think I got a stiffy at first when I saw them riding roots and rocks. Being at a resort in their home country, Red Bull had no excuses this round. Still a little miffed on the Ft. Bill coverage, though. I know, I know......free, but there was no footage in the main wooded sections where runs were being made or broken.
  • + 1
 I could not watch the video from Turkey due to broken links, sorry No comments
  • + 3
 Ratboy became Ratman!
  • + 0
 I cannot believe they have disqualified bernard kerr. From the looks of things he stayed in the posts. Absolute joke from the uci
  • + 3
 Feel bad for Gwin Frown
  • + 3
 Unbelievable RAT BOY
  • + 2
 Gutted that Luca couldnt repeat his blistering performance from qualies
  • + 1
 Well, actually he did repeat his performance from qualies. And that was the problem right? 3:31 for both the final and qualies. Other guys went faster in the finals. He repeated almost the exact same time.
  • + 1
 What happened was Luca got held up by Loris, who had crashed and was riding slowly down the track. When Luca caught him he was stuck behind him for a few corners. Apparently Loris had taken a bit of a knock to the head and was a little out of it, so he didn't realize Luca was behind yelling for him to move out of the way. Heard Loris might have a concussion, hopefully he isn't hurt very badly.
  • + 2
 RAAAAAAAATBOOOOOOOOOOY HEEEEEEELLLLLL YEAAAAAAAAH!
  • + 3
 so pitted for Loic
  • + 1
 Living legend right here. Cheers pal.
  • + 2
 Unbelievable, good on you Mr. Rat. What a great day.
  • + 1
 Yes Ratboy, finally. You deserve it man. now go and get us some more
  • + 2
 the best season so far!!
  • + 1
 Is there a cash prize for 1st 2nd and 3rd?
  • + 1
 Still waiting for Sik Mik in the next Round! go Polygon!
  • + 1
 Hell yeah Ratboy! I had a feeling he would get a win this season!
  • + 1
 So chuffed for Bryceland! Get in bro!
  • + 2
 YAAAYYYYY!!!!
  • + 1
 Carbon rim would not have survived Gwins run, truly amazing
  • + 0
 Im sorry great for ratboy and all, but Troy you wee ripper in the points lead
  • + 2
 26" for medals Smile
  • + 2
 yeah!! wheel size no real dh rider cares!!! go ride xc! hahah
  • + 1
 Anyone know what knee brace Greg's using?
  • + 0
 We need another worldcup dvd please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This years racing is just insane.................
  • + 1
 Can.not.wait. to see the episode of this is peaty that covers this.
  • + 1
 Stoked for Ratboy, feel pretty sorry for Loic and Bernard
  • + 0
 Just goes to show all of you people out there that on a real DH track 26" Rule.
End of story.
  • + 15
 It goes to show that the best rider on the day (that has a clean run) will always win, regardless what size wheels they are on
  • + 1
 Anyone know where Peaty came?
  • + 0
 31st.
  • + 1
 Another awesome race! Well done Ratboy!
  • + 1
 You little beauty rat! RAAATTTTTBBBOOOYY for prime minister!
  • + 1
 Smith ahead of Atherton, such rivalry.
  • + 1
 HELLzzzzzz YEA!!!!!!!!! RATBOY TAKES IT!
  • + 1
 yes rat finally takes a win
  • + 1
 Best season since long ago!!!!
  • + 2
 Still a few races left and nobody is walking away with anything in the overall. A different winner each race. Two first-time winners so far. If this continues, Rob Warner will explode.
  • + 1
 owh bruni, he was up and he crashed at somewhere nobody crashed
  • + 1
 Greg What a legend! Two SAs in the top ten:-)
  • + 1
 Amazing for Guillaume Cauvin,,,He's getting faster ^,^
  • - 1
 There´s a mistake in overall standings??
Sam hill ended 5 in cairns and blenki in 6 and there appears hill 6 and blenki 5. with the points being changed too...
  • + 1
 qualifying points count as well
  • + 1
 Damn bruni I was so close to having the best fantasy team ever
  • + 1
 Troy is #1 Overall now.
  • + 0
 Where can I see full results?
  • + 0
 Vital has them up already, but they'll be up here before too long.
  • + 1
 links not working :p
  • + 0
 I dont quite get why you stopped posting live streams
  • + 1
 Did Kerr get DQL?
  • + 2
 Yeah, he did. Officials said he went outside one of the poles.
  • + 5
 its not like he gained any time.. unfair really
  • + 2
 Makes me sad...
  • + 1
 It's crazy, his was immense. Dsq was harsh.
  • + 1
 Didn't Rachel go around two poles at Fort Bill the season before last? She came into the corner too hot and couldn't make it. She took the win instead of a DSQ.

Consistency please UCI.
  • + 1
 the rules were different then
  • + 0
 What I mean is that she should have received a DSQ, not a podium, because what she did was against the rules at the time.
  • + 1
 Best podium ever!!!
  • + 1
 Only if Peaty was going third...
  • + 0
 How can someone ride a dead wheel size so lively? Ratical!
  • + 1
 Yeah Rayboy!!
  • + 1
 Gwin rims: dtswiss ex471
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