Video: Fern Surfing on a Prototype Rossignol Trail Bike

Aug 4, 2020 at 12:42
by Max McCulloch  

Rossignol Prototype with NOBL TR38s

Hub sounds courtesy of Nobl TR38s on I9 Hydra Hubs.

Locations: Lower Vancouver Island
Riding and Video: Max McCulloch
Made possible by: Nobl Wheels


105 Comments

  • 289 6
 you know climate change is real, when ski companies start making mountain bikes
  • 36 2
 Did you forget about the K2 bikes back in the day?
  • 46 2
 And Commencal makes skis. Won't somebody please think of the children!
  • 38 1
 Even Commencal does bikes now...
  • 5 1
 Commencal went the other way on that.
  • 20 0
 Well, to be serious - I see a change in the perception of mountain bikes in ski resorts. Just couple of years ago I felt myself a bit "unwelcomed" with my dirty bike on the lift. Now many ski resorts are actively advocating for riders to come and visit. e.g. Malinô started to take care of the trails mid-season, put a lot of metal nets on wooden stuff. So at least something positive in whole this climate change story.
  • 14 0
 Scott is also originally a ski (equipment) company, still making them! (I have a pair, but they are not that common)
Stöckli (swiss brand) also started as ski-manufacturer if I am not mistaken, but they stopped producing bikes some years ago...
  • 23 0
 Rossignol's goal is to become a multi-sport group like Salomon or Scott in order to rely less on skiing season.
  • 1 0
 @Vudu74: the ski lift is not far from their offices...
  • 7 0
 @eugen-fried: I always wondered why ski resorts took so long to adopt lift access mountain biking.
  • 27 0
 @drpheta: Look how long it took them to allow snowboarding.
  • 9 2
 @nyhc00: and skiers still don’t like us! ????
  • 8 0
 You can ski on sand tho, so commencal is obviously just getting ready for the future.
  • 2 1
 @drpheta: I guess the obvious reason is the crowd. It's way easier to start skiing than riding bikes, hence it attracted a lot of upper middle class people who are basically easy money. Plus years of reputation as being a fancy sport. Now mountainbiking experiencing the same transition snowboarding had.
  • 2 0
 @nyhc00: Good point. I forgot about that.
  • 8 18
flag homerjm (Aug 5, 2020 at 6:03) (Below Threshold)
 Climate is always changing,2000 years ago weather was very different. 40 years ago,many sky resorts never thought about climate change or why they have a ton of snow there. It is a relatively "new thing".
It is as real as always.
  • 4 0
 is that a flex pivot?
  • 3 0
 Felt...
  • 1 0
 @LaurensVR: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so good
  • 5 0
 they own felt, and this looks a lot like a felt
  • 4 5
 Selling more carbon stuff doesn't help climate change if it is indeed human induced. Wink
  • 1 0
 @drpheta: because insurance
  • 1 0
 @CarbonShmarbon: I'm not so sure.

Lift companies do not sell runs down the hill but instead an alternative (to walking/hiking/cycling) way up the hill, how you get down is entirely your own decision - you could take the gondola/chair down.

If it insurance of equipment to which you refer then again I wouldn't be so sure. Ski and snowboard equipment, much like bikes, comes in a variety of flavours with a wide range of pricetags. Of course hanging bikes on the back of a gondola or chair does mean they have to be a little more vigiliant about wind and in particular wind direction to ensure the safety of users.

Not so sure insurance comes into it as much as general popularity of the sport.
  • 2 0
 @Ieazo: i have no idea if insurance comes into it either...

...but if it does, it's about assessing risk management. No risk on the part of the lift company (beyond ensuring it operates correctly and safely). The risk is to the resort.

A ski resort needs to consider what they need to do to make using their resort as incident-free (see also: idiot-proof) for their paying customers as reasonably possible. This means that there is no legal culpability on them for any incidents or injuries that occur. If they've assessed and managed risk successfully, any incidents are either unforeseen (i.e. nobodys fault) or the person's own fault through recklesness or misuse of the facilities.

MTB brings in a whole new host of risk and risk management. The cost of implementing it would surely be factored in to any assessment of the profitability of such a venture.
  • 1 1
 @BigAge: Yep. Deal with it my man.
  • 7 0
 @homerjm: The climate is measurably changing faster at the moment than in previous periods of change - excluding possibly asteroids or an extraordinary amount volcanic activity, neither of which I've noticed - and in a way that is totally consistent with humans burning 4 billion gallons of oil a day...
  • 1 0
 @drpheta: My local hill has had lift access since the mid 90's.
  • 4 0
 With proper tires its pretty hard to blow out edges and sidewalls on an mtb but im sure rossi will find a way
  • 4 13
flag homerjm (Aug 5, 2020 at 12:41) (Below Threshold)
 @Altron5000: I don´t think so. What can you see about glaciers and sea ice is nothing out of scale or rare. Some people said we are in the middle of a little glacier period or going to,so many glaciers we can see today or years ago where formed in another past period,they are not truly related to any close event to us.
Climate is not something you can measure like like fast or slow changing,it is a complex chain reaction.
  • 9 1
 @homerjm: opinions like this are genuinely terrifying.

Honestly if you were arguing that cigarettes don’t cause cancer, or that sunscreen is unnecessary, or that mobile phones do cause cancer, I wouldn’t bother responding...you would be the only victim of your ignorance.

The difference here is that the victims of global warming will be billions of other people for a thousand years or more.
  • 2 6
flag likeittacky (Aug 5, 2020 at 15:37) (Below Threshold)
 CO. and others have had record amounts of snow for last couple seasons with copious amounts even into summer months. Propaganda BS!
  • 1 0
 @ice29: Scott started in the USA with MX boots & goggles. Bought by Swedish Co.
  • 1 0
 I suppose they Felt the urge to get into mountain biking, too...
  • 1 0
 @DidNotSendIt: Depends on the country and then the region within the country. For example; when I lived in Minnesota, the local resort talked about opening a park but they opted not to, because of insurance. In that specific state even if your customer signs a waiver you will still get sued (if there's an injury). The waiver simply reduces the amount. It was a contributing factor to the only private bike park in MN shutting down and has taken out many ski resorts. I believe states like Montana are a tad bit more forgiving but operating a non-gov bike park in MN is flat out suicide and my understanding is that many other states have the same issue. As for countries it varies but yeah, risk management is a nightmare for mountain biking almost everywhere. Also, bike parks often struggle to make money lawsuits aside. Trail building can be pricy in comparison to insurance and customer demand. Bike parks are just generally not profitable in most places.
  • 1 0
 @drpheta: definitely not, I still have my K2 Beast frame!
  • 1 0
 @Altron5000: I never said we are not destroying the planet or leaving a bad environment for the next generations.
Climate changes are so complex even super computers struggle to simulate it. We don´t have all the clues to made an accurate model. Last year a big crater was found related to Younger Dryas events,those who kick out us of the ice age 12.000 years ago. They are still puzzling the evidences.
I think your point of view is a very childish one,like many other people. I´m not saying or negating the climate change,just saying it works in many other ways we don´t know yet,cos it is very complex indeed. It is not white or black thing.
  • 37 0
 Looks like a Salomon
  • 31 0
 Waiting for Burton freeride bike.
  • 5 1
 I want a Jeremy Jones* bike. Even if it was just a Jones branding/design collaboration.

I also feel like Transition are the MTB equivalent of Lib Tech. Would love to see them working together. Lib Tech definitely have a Party On The Piste vibe that would complement the Party In The Woods ethos.

*big mountain Jeremy Jones, not jibbing Jeremy Jones
  • 2 0
 @DidNotSendIt: They should make a scott stevens bike for jibing
  • 6 0
 @DidNotSendIt: lib tech and evil did a collaboration a while back!
  • 1 0
 @DaFreerider44: I just took one pedal off my bike, am I doing this Scott Stevens thing right?
  • 1 0
 Hahahaha
  • 27 0
 Absolutely crushing it on both sides of the lens! So fun to watch.
  • 4 0
 Agreed!
  • 3 0
 For real, Max you've been killing these self shot things!
  • 4 0
 Thanks guys, means a ton!!
  • 2 0
 It looks amazing! Beautifully shot
  • 12 0
 looks like Felt Decree
  • 22 0
 Thats because they are Felts.
  • 4 0
 @dustydubya: Exactly. They bought out Felt a couple of years ago. I was worried that they were just going to dump their mtb line into a dumpster when new models stopped appearing on their site and old ones disappeared, but it looks like they're just going to rebrand them.
  • 2 0
 @big-red: I missed this- thanks for mentioning it.
  • 3 0
 @big-red: Likewise. So stoked to see this. I ride a 2016 Decree and even though the geo is dated it's still my favorite bike I've ever ridden. The pedaling platform and playfulness of the bike are uncomparable. Flex stays for the win.
  • 2 0
 @kmarm totally! I was in the same boat. Having a similar frame design but as a 29er with the new geo is a killer combo.
  • 1 0
 @kmarm: I also rode a 2016 Decree. So light and quick, though the mid-stroke support was a bit lacking. I moved on to a Yeti because it was one of the few bikes that actually offered more and wasn't just a new bike for the sake of a new bike.
  • 2 0
 @maxmcculloch: Hell yeah. Can't wait to see what builds these will come in. Rad edit, keep it up!
  • 10 0
 super smooth riding and no skidding. so beautiful. thanks
  • 5 0
 Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it
  • 1 0
 @maxmcculloch: and the "action" at 1:20 is verry cool, liked that
  • 9 0
 Good looking bike tbh.
  • 4 0
 Looks like a Felt without the equilink and modded to run 29s. The real question is if this means R.I.P. Felt mountain bikes. Rossignol branding for bikes just won't work in the states, and as far as bike retailers, Rossignol has to start from scratch to create a network. Felt's presence has steadily declined since the sale to Rossi. I wonder if Felt is even developing anything ?
  • 6 0
 Let’s hope they call it the Sick Bird! With all that air time.
  • 3 0
 Ain't a prototype, it's called the Myth and it's already available as a frame only option from Rossi dealers and on Rossi's pro deal website.
  • 4 0
 Love the colors! I know people like their murdered out black builds; but I require neon fades in my life.
  • 1 0
 Cool vid!!! Saw Rossignol E-bikes for rent at Sun Peaks last year and this year. Haven't seen regular, non-ebikes till now. Great to see - more choices for consumers to find the best bike that matches their own criteria.
  • 3 0
 Innnnnnnteresting from Rossi. Looks pretty sick! And amazing riding.
  • 2 0
 Cheers man!
  • 1 0
 Beech mountain has had Rossignols as their rental bikes for a few years now... Saw their e-bike this past weekend, thing looks like it weighs a half ton.
  • 2 0
 I live in SoCal and dream of riding spots with ferns cause ferns meen awesome loamy dirt.
  • 3 0
 Dude bra killing it bro
  • 1 0
 Thanks mate!
  • 2 0
 That is some great self-filming tup
  • 2 0
 Cheers! Definitely was a lot of pushing up the hill for a minute of footage haha
  • 2 3
 Can someone explain me why all the videos these days are filmed on perfectly groomed trails that look more like an asphalt road rather than a MTB trail?! Especially when riding a long travel rig!?
  • 8 0
 These trails may not look it but they're pretty chundery once you get up to speed. My hands were getting tired even on a 150mm bike. That being said, they're not too technical. Normally its harder to film tech because it always looks way easier on video. Might give it a try for the next one though!
  • 1 0
 Half a lap down prevost and you'll be shaking your fingers out...there's a reason the fastest riders around flock to it Smile
  • 1 0
 Now for the new gear I wonder if four square and thirty two gonna drop some jerseys and shorts? Woohoo.
  • 1 0
 Nice Ride ! Sounds good !
  • 1 0
 Cheers!
  • 6 4
 RossigNO
  • 1 2
 I've skied on their skies previously and can't say I liked them all that much. I wonder how the bike is like, I'd do a rental thing
  • 1 0
 Absolute weapon. Atta guy Max!
  • 1 0
 Thanks my guy!
  • 2 0
 Sick. Super talent.
  • 1 1
 DO they really make bikes? Or they took one of the projects from "big red book" while on Taipei show ?
  • 1 0
 Some high quality riding in the video.
  • 2 0
 Cheers! It was nice to get in front of the lens for this one!
  • 1 4
 Bad song selection...ha...normally I wouldn’t comment on the song choice, I just mute it, but whatever instrument/sound bite in that song that sounded like loose change...we’ll...for a moment there I thought it was coming from the bike.

I’d say either change the sound track or mute the bike. Having both in that video makes it sound like the bike is noisy.
  • 1 0
 Looks nice but not a fan of the big logo on the downtube.
  • 1 0
 All they did was buy Felt. That is a felt. End of thread
  • 1 0
 Came for the slow-mo ferns, was not disappointed.
  • 1 0
 Sick riding, indeed! So damn smooth.
  • 1 0
 Hey look its FELT's new brand since there mountain bikes were garbage.
  • 1 0
 Beautiful cinematography. Poetic and peaceful.
  • 1 0
 Hey. Is this prototype a 29er? Travel?
  • 1 0
 It is! I have mine at 160 front/ 140 back but we're testing a few different suspension configurations
  • 1 0
 So sick max!!
  • 1 0
 Thanks Sean!!
  • 1 0
 SO Rad! Bad ass edit
  • 1 0
 Thanks! Pumped you enjoyed it!
  • 1 0
 Yeah Max!
  • 1 4
 Like ferns, Rossignol is an unwanted invasive species. I kid.

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