2017 Norco Sight Carbon - First Look

Jan 24, 2017 at 17:48
by Mike Kazimer  
Norco 2017
Meet the Norco Sight C 7.1.


The Sight has been a key model in Norco's lineup ever since its inception, a versatile trail bike that leans more towards the all-mountain side of the spectrum. The bike recently underwent a host of updates to bring it fully up to speed for 2017, including longer, lower, and slacker geometry, new suspension kinematics, a trunnion-mounted metric rear shock, and the addition of a 29” wheeled version. It now sits comfortably between the Range, Norco's enduro / all-mountain bruiser, and the Optic, Norco's shorter travel XC / trail machine.

The 27.5” Sight has 140mm of rear travel paired with a 150mm fork up front, while the 29er has 130mm of travel and a 140mm fork up front. There will be three carbon-framed models for each wheelsize, with nearly identical parts kits for each.
Sight Carbon Details

• Intended use: trail / all-mountain
• Wheel size: 27.5" or 29"
• Rear wheel travel: 140mm (27.5"), 130mm (29")
• 66.5º (27.5") or 67º (29") head angle
• Frame material: carbon front triangle and seat stays, aluminum chainstays
• Metric shock sizing
• Boost hub spacing
• MSRP: $2,599 USD (frame w/ RockShox Deluxe RT), $3,899 - $6,499 USD (complete bikes)
www.norco.com

Prices start at $3,899 USD for either the Sight C7.3 or 9.3, which is spec'd with a RockShox Yari fork, a SRAM NX 1x11 drivetrain, and SRAM Level brakes. The top of the line models, the C7.1 or C9.1, will retail for $6,499, and come decked out with a RockShox Pike RCT3 fork, SRAM Eagle 12-speed drivetrain, and Guide RSC brakes. There's also a frame-only option for $2,599. It's nice to see proper tires, wide bars, and a chain guide in place on every model, a sign that this bike is meant to be ridden hard, not just babied down ultra-manicured trails.



Norco 2017
As shown, the 27.5" Sight C7.2 retails for S4,999.
Norco 2017
The base model 29" Sight C9.1 will go for $3,899.


Frame Details

The new Sight's frame design isn't wildly different than its predecessor, but there have been enough nips and tucks that it's easy to tell the new version from the old. The use of a trunnion-mounted metric shock creates the most readily visible change, which puts the rocker link in a more horizontal position compared to the prior version's upward angle. This also creates enough room for the use of a piggyback style shock should a rider decide to go that route.

According to Norco, the Sight's suspension design was altered to make it ever-so-slightly less progressive, and the amount of chain growth was also reduced, changes that are meant to improve the bike's pedaling performance and allow the shock to more easily absorb impacts.

Although none of the complete bikes come with a front derailleur, it is possible to run one for those who aren't quite ready to commit to the 1x route. Other details include the use of Norco's Gizmo internal routing system, which uses large ports that should provide plenty of room to run brake, derailleur, and dropper post lines, reducing the chances of finding yourself trying to coax a length of housing out of the frame with a bent spoke in one hand and a flashlight clamped between your teeth. The port covers are meant to hold the housing securely in place and prevent it from rattling around in the frame. Chainstay and downtube protection is also in place to help keep ward off chainslap and flying rocks.


Norco Sight

The 27.5” version of the Sight checks in with a 66.5-degree head angle, a 74.1-degree seat angle, and a reach of 449mm for a size large. Previously, the Sight had a 67-degree head angle, a 73.3-degree seat angle, and a reach of 436mm. All in all, they're not drastic geometry changes, but they are ones that should help to make for a more comfortable and capable ride, although without any trail time yet that's purely speculation – we'll report back once we get our hands on one.

As far as the geometry differences between the 29" and 27.5" version go, Norco took care to make the numbers come out as similar as possible. The 130mm 29er does have a slightly longer reach than the 140mm 27.5" bike, but Norco accounts for that by giving it a 50mm stem, and the 27.5" bike a 60mm stem. I'm not entirely convinced by that line of reasoning - in my mind, I'd rather have all models, regardless of wheelsize, come with a 50mm or shorter stem, but that's just me, and Norco clearly spent some time figuring out how to make the bikes ride like they wanted.

It is impressive that Norco managed to maintain the same rear center measurements between for both wheelsizes, a very reasonable 430mm for the size medium. That number changes depending on the frame size, which is part of Norco's efforts to make sure a rider's weight balance remains the same across the entire range of frame sizes.


Norco 2017

Norco 2017
Norco 2017

We haven't been able to swing a leg over the new Sight just yet, so there aren't any ride impressions to relay; in the meantime, these images of Jill Kintner aboard her custom Sight will have to suffice. We'll report back once we get plenty of miles in on the new ride.




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Action photos: Margus Riga.


184 Comments

  • + 115
 Norco is one of the rare companies that actually understands that, for a consistent character along the sizes, the chainstay has to be sized accordingly. This is something a lot of very big companies with big talk about "dialed geometry" and "dialed suspension" cut corners. Props to Norco (and probably Ben Reid) for getting this right.
  • + 17
 I wonder if this is changing the rear travel of the bike or if they also adjust the rocker in order to keep the same travel across the sizes...?
  • - 22
flag wolf-amongst-lambs (Jan 25, 2017 at 8:09) (Below Threshold)
 If anyone remembers norco from the 80s, when cw racing, gt , hutch, and haro were kingly bikes, seeing a price tag like this for a norco is NUTS. this sure explains why canadian tire has started putting $900 bikes on the shelves. Is having a $10 000 bike even interesting anymore? Seems like EVERY bike starts at 6 grand now. I remember walking into a shop in 1995 and there would be ONE bike with a 6000 tag , and it would be on a pedestal in the middle of the shop with a velvet rope around it. There is no more mystique to owning a bike like this. After spending $19 000 on bikes in the last 10 years, im starting to feel a lil jaded about it all.
  • + 41
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: If you go to ( www.in2013dollars.com ) you'll see that with inflation, $6000 in 1995 is around $10'000 today. Just FYI. A $10k bike is still special. If you check the spec on a 10k Norco, you'll see that they're an incredible spec.
  • + 3
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: Performance similar to that $6000 bike is pretty cheap nowadays. So if riding that bike would have made you happy, you can now be happy pretty cheap.

@Happymtbfr: They must have changed more than just the chainstay because they stick to the same shock and get the same amount of travel out of it. This may be reason other brands don't use this approach as they design for a particular chainring, a particular shock and a set amount of rear wheel travel so they'll stick to the same linkage to get the same suspension curve and axle path. But I'd say geometry is more important than axle path and the amount of travel. But not everyone is going to agree. "I paid the same amount of money for a bike similar to that of my husband. Why am I getting less travel out of my rear suspension? Discrimination! Chainstay length, does that matter?"
  • + 15
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: learn to build your own bike. Save a ton that way. Shop for great deals on mildly-used parts, learn how to maintain and service your own equipment. You could build a $10k bike for $5k easily. Not EVERYTHING on a build needs to be brand new.
  • + 11
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: I remember my Kona Kula back in 95 was 2200.0 and that was considered a Mid-high end bike for the time, now 2200.0 doesn't even get one in the front door of a bike shop, I feel your pain.
  • - 6
flag g-42 (Jan 25, 2017 at 9:10) (Below Threshold)
 @chrisingrassia: Unless you buy those mildly used parts from people you know, aren't you a bit worried about feeding the criminal economy with that approach? I mean, remember that story about the dude in Vancouver, BC who was paying homeless guys to steal high-end bikes off vehicles (at popular after ride watering holes, and at large employers where there were lots of people who had their bikes ready for an after work ride, etc.) and then selling the parts through multiple PB and CL accounts while dumping the frames?
  • + 18
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: I remember my first beer....
  • + 8
 @Happymtbfr: The rear triangle of the bike is exactly the same, the bottom bracket is just moved back on the front triangle for smaller sizes.
  • + 28
 2017 Norco Fluid A7.2 is $2300 (CAD of course). Dropper post, lockable Air-sprung suspension, tubeless-ready rims and tires, 1x drivetrain with clutch, good weight, travel and geometry that does not limit your trail choice. There are excellent new choices at the same price ranges as we all shopped at when we were young (forget even inflation, the numbers line up, especially for what you are getting). I remember my bosses selling their buddies $10,000 and up Seven Ti Flextails multiple times every year at the shop I grommed at 25 years ago.
  • + 5
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: 1995? You may want to consider inflation as part of your analysis. I agree bikes can be super pricey these days but you're taking about prices 22 years ago.
  • + 6
 @g-42: I live in California. Why would I know about that story? I hear ya though, but I do believe you may be making a mountain out of a molehill. You make it sound as though 90% of the Buy/Sell parts on PB are stolen. I'm not convinced of that. HOWEVER, I will say that when I buy parts on PB, I do require either the original box/packaging or *at least a copy* of the receipt purchase. Buying used parts responsibly is the key. I have asked sellers too to elaborate on certain things to give myself some comfort with the part, explain how it works, and I also check the Lost/Stolen section before I buy big-ticket items.
  • + 1
 @chrisingrassia: Good on you for doing that amount of due diligence. The PB story, even though it was about a Vancouver issue, was pretty big news here on PB, so I thought you might have seen it. Anyway - there's a nasty amount of bike theft going on here in the PNW, and I keep hearing that it's similar in other areas with lots of riders. I had my bike jacked off my truck last year, so I'm a bit sensitive about it. Seems like there are two separate underground economies for bike theft - one is the crime of opportunity realm, which feeds bikes into the local homeless population (bikes and parts being not just transportation but also an underground currency of sorts). The other is the resell-for-profit piece, and that seems to target high-end bikes with alarming degrees of organization. Given the thefts occurring here in Bellingham (generally a sleepy little town, to the point where we call ourselves the city of subdued excitement), I'm inclined to think my reservations around this are not a mountain-out-of-molehill sort of thing.
  • + 4
 @chrisingrassia: I think where people get shafted on that thought is that once you start dropping chunks of money to get to the $5k mark, you think to yourself...I'm buying f-ing used bike parts...not a Cummins diesel. WTF am I doing?
  • + 3
 @Sworks73: Don't know about CAD $ - in the US, $2,200 in 95 translates to roughly $3,460 in 2016. And for that price, you can get some pretty nice Konas. Nope, they're not the high-end builds, those are more expensive. But they come with droppers, and with amazing drive trains and brakes, and generally put to shame anything that could be had in the 90s. It's just that there's no a whole bunch of additional segments of the market stacked on top that didn't even exist back then.
  • + 2
 @chrisingrassia: I get what you are saying but honestly, buying a used late model complete bike close to what you want is way cheaper than building from parts, which are less and less compatible these days. I have found a good way to stay on a late model bike is to buy used in the fall and stick with a mass market bike. These kinds of bikes have good spec. with no nonsense boutique parts. Ride for a few seasons, then sell in the spring. People getting into the sport like buying big brand bikes so there is a strong market for common, well reviewed bikes as long as they are not too old.
  • + 4
 @g-42: Are you joking? I, and almost every other rider I know, sell our bikes, or part them out and keep certain parts, at the end of every year. Between that and older bikes and parts being passed around by people who buy used and keep their bikes for multiple years, I would estimate that stolen parts account for somewhere well below 1% of the stuff you see on for sale on this site and others like it. It may be higher on Ebay or craigslist, but selling high-end/mid-high/specialty stuff is so much easier on Pinkbike where people are more informed and know what they are looking for, so I haven't used those sites for years. Still, it seems like it would be pretty obvious if something was fishy, like they wouldn't show you pictures of serial numbers, or they were had a ton of stuff for sale, like 20 front wheels.
  • + 1
 @g-42: I tried Googling. Send me a link, would like to read it.
  • + 3
 @mountain-life: totally. Byuing used quality parts or a used quality complete.....same thing I was trying to imply there.
  • + 3
 Norco is great, only ever been happy with their bikes. Never had any frame issues except an understandably ovalized head tube.
  • + 1
 @mecabeat: .......or I've seen sellers that do absolutely nothing with their PB profile except sell stuff. They read no articles, post no pics, don't comment on things, they have no presence except to sell items. I stay away from them. That's what I call a red flag.
  • + 1
 @chrisingrassia: Yea, but that's a small percentage of sellers. That's what I'm talking about. Some of those are bike shop owners as well. The sketchy ones are obvious, and usually disappear quickly. If you see something that actually raises a red flag for you, you should be reporting it.
  • - 13
flag vikb (Jan 25, 2017 at 12:09) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry, but I don't want longer CS on my large frame. I also don't want/care that my large frame doesn't feel like a XS or small frame. I won't be buying a Norco.
  • + 5
 @vikb: The stays aren't artificially long on the Lg frames, the geometry is size specific to retain the frame balance that the bike is designed to have. A large only has a 435mm rear centre- still really short!
What riders like myself (XL frames) notice with the Norco design is more stability at high speed.
  • + 2
 @chrisingrassia: Or a pro or their mechanic.

There are tons of pros who sell their brand new stuff on here constantly. Leigh Donovan's bikes come up all the time and they are pretty much new.

The Shaw brothers just listed a bunch of stuff in the last week...and so on.
But I can see your point on some of it being shady, but I've only once come across a stolen bike online because bike thieves typically don't dump them on mainstream sites.
  • + 2
 @chrisingrassia: here you go, there was some local reporting later on that I can't find right now that suggested this guy had gotten these bikes from a system of commissioning the thefts through homeless guys. Memory on that is hazy, so I might be conflating two events, though. m.pinkbike.com/news/wolf-amongst-the-sheep-bike-theft-2014.html
  • + 2
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: I bought a 2012 giant reign 1 last year for 1000 bucks and it was damn near brand new!! Just buy used lol
  • + 1
 @DandelionDan: thanks! That would make sense from a production point of view
  • + 1
 @Happymtbfr: @DandelionDan Indeed, that was a much wiser solution than what I came up with Smile !
  • + 1
 @dkidd: But then they bloody should be for $10k
  • + 1
 @north-shore-bike-shop: I love popping by your shop when I'm in the area. You've got some great stuff in stock. Your website though - aiyiyi. . .
  • + 1
 I wish they could have use the chainstay design of the Optic series, it looks cleaner. Great improvements overall.
  • + 1
 @chrisingrassia: i DO build my own bikes. I built a cove and a rocky mountain.
  • + 1
 @DandelionDan: it's the location of the pivot points in relation to the seat tube that changes the length. All sizes use the same rear triangle.
  • + 1
 Totally agree! Short chainstays across all size ranges, combined with an effective seat tube angle that gets slacker with more extension, means many of the "modern-geometry" bikes result in tall riders over-compressing the shock on climbs due to having too much weight over the rear wheel. You either have to climb with 40% sag or descend with an over-pressured and over-damped shock. Kudos to Norco for spending the extra tooling and design dollars to insure riders achieve consistent performance levels for each frame size.
  • + 1
 @Marcencinitas: you nailed it. As a 6'4 rider of XL bikes you described my experience on so many FS machines with the post in climbing position. End up leaving it Trail height to combat it.
  • + 29
 Refreshing pricing for an aggressive carbon trail bike line up. Trek/Spec had me thinking the the new norm was $8k+
  • + 26
 Oh wait... usd. Shucks
  • + 9
 @banffowen: Foiled once again by them conversion rates eh?
  • + 9
 @Lookinforit: it's a strange world we now live in where the contents of Donald trump's Twitter feed have an effect on the strength of world currency's
  • - 5
flag cheetamike (Jan 25, 2017 at 9:34) (Below Threshold)
 @Lookinforit: yup was just comparing the new Sight to a similar carbon YT Jeffsy , and the YT is a way nicer bike for the same $$$ , even with them being sold out till summer I would wait .
  • + 11
 @cheetamike: I would wait and throw a leg over both at the lbs. Oh wait, can't do that with bikes direct.
  • + 0
 @onemind123: already test rode the YT there is a dealer in Squamish .
  • + 2
 @cheetamike: majority of riders don't get to live here!
  • + 2
 @onemind123: true but that should not limit ones choice of bikes , and with today's designs and information found on the internet one can get an idea of what to expect . also what does a quick spin in a parking tell you ?? all it tells me if the size is one I can fit to my needs , after that it,s tune it to suit the trails you ride .
  • + 23
 Is this not a Canadian brand being showcased on a Canadian website? Could we not get prices quoted in Canadian dollars? Regardless, and I know that this is a tired gripe but $3800 CDN for a frame only?! One foot further out the door of this sport for me.
  • + 42
 Just like you don't have to buy a top of the line Ferrari to get to work, you don't have to buy a carbon superbike to have fun mountain biking. Don't let money or gear envy stop you having fun. A complete bike that costs half of that frame only price will get the job done. Will it be as good? Probably not. Will it be fun? Yes, of course it will, unless you spend your time worrying about money.
  • + 14
 @Patrick9-32: Ride bikes, have fun. Don't get caught up in the details.
  • + 6
 Don't buy it. Guess what happens to prices when enough of us stop buying?
  • + 4
 @TheRaven: people need to buy carbon wonder bikes. Preferably every year. Because when they then sell the year old bikes normal folk get to buy them.
  • + 2
 @AyJayDoubleyou: Oh I agree, I also know that we are not going to stop buying bikes (and so do the manufacturers). I was just pointing out the truth.
  • + 5
 @Patrick9-32:
Wisest words I ever read on PB.
Well said Patrick.
  • + 6
 Ya it's a bummer we NEED a carbon frame. Much better idea to take up lawn bowling then ride an alloy frame
  • + 1
 Or just buy used
  • + 2
 @onemind123: +1. I have the 2014 Alloy 7.1 Sight that I got new, but a year old. It's fantastic. I'm never on the trails complaining about it not being carbon. The bike is super fun. Ride the alloy!
  • + 16
 I absolutely love my Sight c7.2, most surprisingly capable bike I've ever ridden, perfect fit to our riding in Jasper. The 29" Sight looks mega fun!! Keep it up @norcobicycles
  • + 5
 My girlfirend has the C7.2 as well (2015), and she shreds everything in her path from XC trails in Kingdom Trails, VT to technical and jump lines in Whistler Bike Park. It's an incredibly versatile bike, which wears the etiquette of "All Mountain" bike perfectly.
I think she loves her Sight more than me. Good thing that, at least, I know I come third; after her Sight and her Cat.
  • + 3
 @Bragelonne: I have the A7.1 Sight (2014) and have upgraded the fork (Pike), rims (Stan's), tires (Spec's), shock (Vorsprung Corset) and it's an absolute blast. BUT I wouldn't take it in the Park at Whistler. That's a bit over its head.
  • + 4
 @rrolly: You're right. I should have been more specific when saying she shreds "technical and jump lines in Whistler Bike Park": I'm referring to trails like Upper Angry Pirates / O-Sin, not In Deep or Goats' Gully; and Crank In Up / A-Line, not Dirt Merchant or Crabapple Hits. I would say the Sight will handle great for a good half of the trails in Whistler's park. The other half, you're right, it would be over it's head.
  • + 1
 @Bragelonne: If she doesn't have the vorsprung corset on her rear shock, you should look at picking one up. The company is based out of Squamish. The improvement that upgrade made on my shock was quite something. It's super easy to install yourself too.
  • + 3
 @rrolly: Her 7.2 came with the Cane Creek In-line. It's a great shock but getting all 4 settings to the sweet "do it all" spot is an ever-lasting journey.
  • + 1
 @Bragelonne: Don't they have an app that's supposed to make it easier?
  • + 19
 Room for a water bottle!! Heck yea!
  • + 13
 It's sad when we have to applaud this.
  • + 4
 One of a few reasons I opted for a Transition over a Yeti.
  • + 7
 Why is the MSRP $2000 more in Canadian dollars from a Canadian company?
Have a look at the Giant USA site and the Giant Canada site the bikes are actually cheaper on the Canadian site.
If Giant can do it why can't other brands?
At least make them close in price.
  • + 6
 The bike looks awesome. But the way norco drag this bike "launch" is right up there with Cam McCauls VWadventures. Just show the people the bike and get it over with. And am going to the Darkside 29er for me.
  • + 1
 Agreed, was expecting bigger things than minor revision to geo and metric shocks. I'm curious if you don't like the trunion shock, what are the alternatives? Can you go back to a regular shock? surely the length/stroke ratio would be all messed up. I haven't seen any other companies with trunion shocks yet.
  • + 3
 @app-uncture: have you heard of Giant?
  • + 3
 @PhillipJ: I meant suspension companies with trunion shocks, i.e. fox, cane creek, etc. I noticed later that Jill has a regular fox shock in the photo, that must impact stroke length surely...
  • + 2
 @app-uncture: Fox make metric trunion shocks: www.giant-bicycles.com/nz/trance-2

It's hard to tell from that photo but it looks to me like she's riding a trunion mount shock. The upper pivot is at the same height as the rebound and LSC controls.
  • + 8
 Any one else see full sram spec bikes and just want to puke, it's like a marketing bike, not a actual bike
  • + 4
 Guess who distributes sram in Canada?
  • + 3
 Norco (Live to Play rather) distributes SRAM in Canada, they used to distribute Shimano from what I'm aware of, but Shimano pulled out. I'd imagine this left a bad taste in LTPs mouth and that is one of the reasons why they spec more Sram than Shimano. As well Sram isn't bad, they're just ridiculously over priced compared to Shimano.
  • + 1
 the $6500.00 model is XT speced
  • + 7
 Just bought a Norco Revolver! Cudos to Norco for making a short travel, 100 mm, 27.5 bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and the frame is gorgeous and VERY competitively priced!)
  • + 4
 I used to own a few norcos. Big fan of the company. Best bang for your buck With decent specs. Decent bikes. But the prices they're selling them now a days I got an enduro instead (Similar if not slightly better components for the same price) which surprisingly with a slacker HA climbs better and descends better compared to my old range.
  • + 6
 C7.2 is $5000 USA or $6500 CAD with current exchange. Why is it posted a ridiculous $7500 on website?!?!
These bikes are way overpriced! Nice wheelset though
  • + 8
 There was a mistake on our website, we've corrected the Canadian pricing! Happy to hear you like the wheels!
  • + 1
 @norcobicycles: Are these in stock at dealers now? If not, when?
  • + 1
 @shorelocal: thats THE REAL question!
  • + 1
 @norcobicycles: Question: Are the rear bottom pivot brackets, rear triangle able to be changed? Ie 430 lenght on a size XL? Is there a point at which too short of a rear center becomes a problem? All I hear about is how awesome a super short center is...
  • + 1
 @shorelocal: If you're asking if the wheels are in stock, they appear to be Raceface so that would be NRG, not Norco that distributes them. If you're asking about the bike, I have no clue haha
  • + 7
 Pressfit BB... Almost checked everything off my list.
  • + 4
 what a let down, with all the hype and the count down to the release I was really hopping for something a bit more new. A mid travel all mountain / trail 29er made of carbon inst exactly cutting edge.
  • + 2
 Game changer they said.....
  • + 1
 @Quifouett: The game was changed about 4 years ago if this is game changing.
  • + 3
 Spoiler: they're making the range with 29's
  • + 1
 Call the cops. Somehow put a 67*HTA on a 130mm 29er.
Tuna can Reach measurements. 60 and 50mm stem lengths. Get f*cked!
  • + 7
 Can I get the bike Jill is riding please, with Fox suspension?
  • + 4
 You have to pay extra for more stiction.
  • - 2
 buy the YT for less it has FOX , and carbon rims for $500 more the the mid grade model , and $1500 below the top of the line bike that has aluminum rims !!!
  • + 4
 @cheetamike: are you a YT sales representative?
  • + 2
 @Jo-rides: nope just a consumer shopper looking for a 29" bike and sharing the results , shop around and you will see , hell compare the new entry level RM Slayer as a comparission , brand new state of the art carbon frame , retails for $700 more than the Norco yet for $100 more on the base model it,s a hell of a lot more bike as well .
  • + 2
 @cheetamike: good points, I see you did the research
  • + 3
 There have been a ton of comments about chainstay length and I think it is important to note that on the old Norco Sight's they allegedly had different size chainstays. Like some of the posts here I tried to get a Large frame with Small chainstay only to find out that the chainstays are all the same length and the mounting of the shock and length of upper linkage was different thus resulting in a shorter chainstay. Therefore, the chainstay might be shorter but it is more to do with frame geometry than with actually swapping out rear ends...
  • + 5
 Maybe I've read too much Pinkbike lately. It looks like just another 27.5 140mm bike. Was that really worth the whole website countdown, and wow oooh ahhh unveiling?
  • + 4
 It's a Norco Trance. But... there's a 29er.
  • + 2
 Bikes in this size/geometry range are such a blast to ride. It's nice to see playful bikes still being made without a super slack 65 degree head angle and a mile long wheelbase. that 66.5 degrees is perfect for having fun on local trails.
  • + 6
 I bet it will climb pretty good...but really shine when pointed down.
  • + 7
 Such a beautiful sight.
  • + 12
 Yes! Watch out for the new season of Norcos! Exclusively on Netflix
  • + 4
 The Fluidity of that frame is unparalleled
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: i cant wait for the new session!
  • + 6
 Can I get a size Large with Medium chainstays?
  • + 1
 I want the medium with the large rear centre.
  • + 2
 29 Geo looks close to the torrent FS+, torrent has better specs with an alloy frame (preferred by me). Anyone know if a torrent FS+ will take real 29 rims and rubber? I am aware it would raise the bb, but would be inline with the Enduro 29 bb height. I asked Norco but all I get back is "the torrent FS+ is designed for 27.5+"
  • + 0
 Torrent FS will take 29" wheels and a 2.35" tire but you would be raising the BB substantially. Works out to be about 10mm to 12mm difference so if you are okay with that then sure, go for it. "Plus" tires are run at lower PSI's so a lot of brands do not take tire sag into account when having the "Plus compatible bike". Solutions such as flip chips and headtube spacer blocks don't account for everything. Changing fork travel is a great option but that is a major task on most forks in the market. Ride characteristics change quite a bit when you add it all up. Not saying that anything is better than the other, personally I prefer purpose built bikes, just gets expensive. The Torrent FS geo is optimised for 27.5" x 2.8" tires, that sounds better than designed for 27.5 +. Hope that answers your question.
  • + 6
 @paulrburnett: Stay on topic. This is about the baller new Sight.
  • + 5
 Thanks for the heads up. I will restrain myself from helping in the future.
  • + 1
 @senatorcraig: are you a moderator or a Norco employee? Thankyou paulrburnett
  • + 4
 @chops: That was a pretty baller answer from paulrburnett. I'll allow it.
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 WTF Pinkbike - who downvoted Paul's comment? It is the most straightforward answer to Chops' question. No spin, no bullshit, just the pros and cons.
  • + 3
 Tighter than Dolly's top those big wheeled beauties are! The best of the newly tuned realm of mid travel 29s to come out IMO
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 Awesome to see they scrapped the previous look and went with the nearly the same look as the optic. Nice worco Norco!
  • + 1
 Nice changes to see with the bolted rocker link VS casting/welding, probably tighter tolerances, i have run into the issue of misalignment with my rear linkage, they lost me with the aesthetics this time around...
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 Can't wait for the review. Love the clean colours this year, and the price seems fair if canadian...very nice bikes. Quiver killer.
  • + 1
 so is the frame dual size as in it,s a 27.5 or 29" with a shorter stroke shock t to prevent the tire from hitting the seat tube
  • + 1
 Maybe they went full 4-bar and mailed it in like Specialized did a few years back?
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 Canadian pricing is a joke, $3,799 CAD for the frameset??? I'll take a Devinci Django at $2,799 all day long, thanks for nothing Norco
  • + 2
 Even more gross, $5500 for the C7.3 model.... yari fork NX groupo and Sram Level T brakes.... what the F is Level T brakes?
  • + 1
 $3299 CAD for the Sight 9 frame kit. It's right there on their website. Yes, more than a Devinci, but not a direct USD/CAD conversion.
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 @ukr77: They changed the pricing, still way too high in my opinion. YT must laugh when they see these prices, their build specs are miles better for way less money.
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 Has anyone ridden a 27.5 version? I cannot find any reviews or information on how it rides. The geometry is very different than the 2016 especially around wheelbase.
  • - 1
 Humm. Is this new trend to put cables under the bottom bracket becoming a thing now? See this bike and new Pivot Firebird. Sorry, over the bottom bracket or no sale. To bad the frame looks great.
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 At least the brake is on top, but yeah that seems like a design flaw
  • + 1
 On my 2015 sight they ran it through the chainstay then above the BBC on each side. This causes loads of rub though the paint and into the aluminium frame. They need to angle the cable/hose away from the pivot to avoid this, under the BBC is an easy way.
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 Autocorrected bb to BBC
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 Specalized Enduro,s where the same way a few year back , the new model have been rerouted and it,s much cleaner
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 My 11 Range had the same routing. Seems to be a 4-bar retard factor going on
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 Is nice, I like.
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 Instead of concentrating our efforts into one frame we'll offer it in two wheel sizes and a total of eight frame sizes in two different materials!
  • + 1
 Max tire spacing for each wheelsize? Can the 29er version run 275x2.8 tires?
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 It seems a very nice, balanced and refined design. Me likey!

When the Range is going to come up?
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 I bet one month from today
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 @cheetamike: many thanks buddy! grazie mille!
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 Could someone explain why the STA gets slacker in the bigger sizes?
  • + 1
 Because chain stay gets longer by shifting the BB forward. It can be alleviated since by average moving the seat an inch forward changes the actual seat angle by a degree.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: So the taller rider, who is already even further back because of his higher seat, gets a slacker STA to ensure he's that much further behind the BB? Doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah some of that is offset by the longer CS but the relationship with the BB gets weird. A full degree is inches fore-aft at full seat height.
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 Because of the curved shape of the the seat tube,the higher you put the seat, the slacker the effective seat tube angle is.
  • + 1
 That is a great looking steed!
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 I see nothing out of Sight here!
  • + 1
 Like the specs on the 29er...nothing like roasting on those BigWheels!!
  • + 1
 Do @norcobicycles not have a UK distributor?
  • + 1
 Evans Cycles
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 bikes looks very nice I like a lot Norco bikes
  • + 1
 hm, wow I've never seen this before...........
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 The squared tubs look amazing! ... not to keen on last years look
  • + 0
 100 bucks says that the rear chainstays are still gonna crack at the welds
  • + 0
 ALERT - Norco has reduced their 2017 warranty coverage on most of the FS/AM/DH rigs to 3 or 5 years from lifetime.
This includes Range & Sight.

Oh well the Norcos are now off my radar. I've seen too many busted frame / cracked frame threads.

Super pricey bikes and warranties going downhill !
  • + 1
 wheres the carbon range
  • + 1
 Norco ????...
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 Id tap that
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 Dorco
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 are they available over here yet ?
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 @cheetamike: they are on their way from poland. Look up lama cycles, they are the distributor in canada.
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 @cheetamike: and they sell for 4500$cad even if suggested price say 3999€
  • + 1
 Thanks!
  • - 1
 Yeti called. They want their paint back.
  • + 3
 Yeah dude not even close... adjust your monitor! You know they make glasses now that allow color blind people to see color like normal people, enchroma.com You might want to invest Wink
  • - 3
 Wow, am i the only one who finds it ugly? Smile
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 No small 29er?!
  • - 1
 Chill man. Manufacturers typically needs resources, market reach and favourable return forecast to make a small 29er. E29's not bad...
  • + 2
 Big wheels can't always fit in smaller packages without geometry compromises. A line needs to be drawn somewhere, unfortunately.
  • + 1
 @terryjamesbrown: Luckily not all brands drew at the same spot. Chill.
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 @terryjamesbrown: That is nonsense, plenty other brands have made similar bikes with smaller reach on the medium and have a small size.
  • + 3
 @AlexS1: Yeah...but they probably should have since most small sized 29'rs ride like diarrhea. CHILL
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 @BlackspireAaron: If it makes u happy..... whatever.
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 @RockNRolla92: Just because they exist doesn't mean they ride well!
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 @ravenra: Who says they don't! Just because they don't have a 450mm reach and a wheelbase the size of a farm gate doesn't mean it doesn't ride well
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