Zink should have at least gotten 4th place! I know he played the rest of his run safe, but he did the biggest flip in history. I only got to the point of Cam Zink's first run. What did I miss? What did Mcgarry do?
it really shows how his lack of competitions is impacting him.. i guess he's just not used to them as he was thaat one season.. cuz hes not one for crashing on 360s
that just kept getting scarier after logans crash i was getting nervous about the second runs but the fact that they arent continuing it tomorrow is bullshit!!!
should run the event first thing in the morning. winds are usually low, ground sometimes has a bit of overnight condensation to keep the soil more stable, and if weather plays a hand at least there's more available day left to finish. just a thought.
too bad on those missed runs but the ones we got were pretty bloody good regardless.
andreu has a curse. 4.
just crashed both runs? but second run he crashed after a 3 drop. then got back up and crashed flipping a jump on the way down i think? ya. it just wasn't his day to be.
notice how no one is talking about how bad-ass Kyle's run was??? cuz it really wasn't. in my opinion, this was the lamest rampage yet--except, of course, for Cam's flip over the sender and McGarry's flip over the gap.
Lyles run was CLEAN! No bobbles, no mistakes, just dialed and clean with a MASSIVE Sui no hander off the Icon big girl line. He was the first to hit it today and the only one to clean it at the time, that's why he got a scoring advantage.
I´m sorry for Bizet, he had a pretty sketchy line on top and was planning to pull out a double-flip. And Andreu, what a great rider and got 4th for third time, that gotta suck.
can anyone tell me the time on the Mitch Chubey crash. i dont know how i missed it but i also cant find it now... did redbull edit it out? i thought it was live.
coupstair- it was GUSTY in the morning so basically this year they really lucked out with the weather, which seems to happen every time they hold this comp. I'm just happy we got to see two of the biggest tricks in a comp. (and outside of), on top of them stomping everything first go.
Despite a couple really scary falls (just wait till you see that dude from SLC who ejected over the front end and down a double stager cliff), everyone was so on point and slaying. Andreu was ripping that top section like a dh trail in his back yard.
The wind is definitely a disappointment, but for those being negative and saying the event sucked are not giving theses guys the respect they deserve. Even the guys who didn't qualify put it all out there, and the bar has definitely been raised for future events. As far as the judging goes, just by reading through the comments you can see that nobody agrees exactly how it should be. As far as problems with the redbull streaming, I'm still thankful that redbull has spent so much money promoting this sport.......What happened to all the people who were just happy to see the sport progress and gain recognition? Yes I feel like they are getting out numbered by elitists who complain about everything............Just get out and ride, and remember what the sport is all about
@AlexArmanetti, You shouldn't comment about Zink placing in a false position when you don't even know what the 2nd place rider did. Go rewatch the "live" broadcast before commenting again.
@dirtworks911 I saw that the results were reposted and that he got third. I saw Mcgarry's run, but it didn't satisfy my personal taste. It was awesome when he flipped the canyon gap, but the rest of his run didn't impress me as much as Zink's and some other riders. @foreverforum260 I see what you're saying. It's another case of pinkbiker's inability to read. I thought he got a 5th place run at the time and then ten minutes later I saw that he got 3rd. Haha. Good old pinkbike!
To be honest I don't think anyone got robbed this year, other than the second runs. I think it was all pretty fair but if some people lose their second runs, everyone should have lost their second run and gone back to the first run score.
To me Lacondeguy and Tyler McCaul got robbed, they were ranked above Cam Zink until their 2nd run scores got discounted - that SUCKS! Also I feel truly bad for anyone who went down hard and got injured on their 2nd run only for it to have been worthless in the end... they should have kept the scores as is and tuff titties to anyone who didn't get to do their 2nd run, albeit Zink would have been the only one in the top 5 who's score would have been affected by this, which I think is fair as he did only do one thing in his run.
I think Rampage should be moved to where there is a lot less wind. We wanna see the biggest stuff sent in MTBing,
not riders cautiously riding with high winds around.
I don't think you can say that a 360 at rampage is anything normal like in a hard packed dirt/ slope style corse. The dirt is so loose and the labdings are practically impossible to see as well as being a couple if feet wide.
Actually he did 3. And it's bit the number of flips that score you high. 2/3 of his flips were really difficult, but still if zink would have just whipped and tabled all the way to the bottom on the big jumps then he could have won.
Personally I think mcgarrys run was better than straits...
Lolwut. Kyle did the most technical line. He totally deserved the win. Just the other day people were bitching about how rampage is too into tricks and features.
Scottchris, totally man the extension on it was insane comparable to doing it on a moto! and with the moto you can throw out alot more coz your weight wont effect it as much! And one handed!
Kyle just looked smooth from top to bottom. I think he made it look too easy for people to give him enough credit. In my opinion the top 3 was perfect. He deserved the win for sure!
Kyles top section was more technical, he went 'big' twice, and he was totally smooth, Kelly's run was awesome but he did case the canyon gap and also went offline from his last 1 or 2 jumps right near the bottom. I actually think the judging at Rampage is pretty fair and accurate as long as you bare in mind they are judging a big mountain contest so are looking at size, technicality and fluidity, tricking a big jump obviously gets major style points.
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You can't call a champ by half of the play time! Come on. There would have been more banger second runs, everyone knows. Anyways, we enjoyed an absolute freakin show, next level shit ...btw, recognized Binggelis backflip down that drop!?,.. so close,.. just missed to roll out straight, ..a bag of healing vibes to him, and all others, got slammed n damaged.
Far the gnarliest line ridden. That suicide no hander was sweet to. Second best trick at rampage, only beaten by zinks flip. After watching the top 3 runs over and over again, I can clearly see how strait won it. Faultless from top to bottom. A true free ride/ big mountain run.
I know this is repetitive, but im tired of hearing strait made it look easy. Zink did the same line as strait and made him look slow! Straits run just seemed conservative. Im not saying Zink should have won, but Andreu in 4th again? I mean come on, his run was badass.
You know, and I feel like a dick for saying this, but I have always seen Kelly McGarry as an almost fill in for a bike brand to promote their products, whilst filling up spots for some comps.
There is so much more to this guy than just his riding, which i always felt was just that one step behind his comrades. His article here posted a few days ago about his trek to Machu Pichu, and the stoke he provides to kids and his healthy promotion of the sport deserves a lot more credit than I ever gave him, and for that I am sorry Kelly.
You sir, are an inspiration, your efforts at Rampage have totally changed my opinion of you. This sport should be grateful to have someone like you a part of it.
Well done to all the other competitors as well, the real winner here isn't an individual, its the sport in general.
I had hope for him after the Peru video. I have dug his style for a little while now though and was hoping he'd do something at Rampage. It's made for someone of his size.
Well said man Kelly is an awsome bloke I got the pleasure of having a few beers with him at xup festival earlyer this year and he's such a humble and nice dude . Can't be more stoked for Kelly's second place to bad he didn't get to have a second run
They were saying he was talking about front flipping the canyon gap on his second run . That would of made rampage a whole lot better than wat it was , but I guess that leaves us hanging for the next rampage to see wat mcgazzas got up his sleeve
Got to meet him a couple of times now since Diamondback is based about 10 miles from my house. Very chill guy and full of nothing but stoke...even being injured as he was when I met him. Props!!
Agreed. Yeah Zink! Also I love how Kyle Strait was radioing him after sending the canyon, didn't even seem care about his own results. Then BACKFLIP!!!!! ...and the Earth shook.
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Agreed. Too much rara USA. Need announcers that know the difference between France & Belgium, New Zealand & Australia. Perhaps some that actually know biking.
The commentator brad ewen at the event not the broadcast hosts. The guy sounds like a broken record from a monster truck rally. Especially annoying when you're standing out there waiting for the judges to walk over to the other side of the hill.
Crappy commentating was the common negative from fellow attendees. Not stoking the crowd, not providing stats, rider bio/data, music...big guy needed a wingman!
I agree. Kyle had a good run but not as good as Kelly's and Zink had one awesome trick the rest of his run was eh. (Though I would love to see what he did with a second run.) I would've had it Kelly->Andreu->Kyle or Cam. But that's the way it goes with judged events. I'm glad Kelly got the People's Choice award.
If Kelly hadn't gone offline at the end of his run he might have won it, KYle did have two huge bangers in his run, not to mention a much steeper and more technical top section - Backflips just don't get recognised in competitions nowadays unless you're doing on over the biggest jump on the course. I would so love to have seen McGarry win, but if you watch the replays, Kyle earned the gold fair enough.
One of the differences between the two huuuuge backflips was that everyone knew Cam was wanting to do that so that built up a lot of anticipation (we would have been disappointed if he didn't attempt it) whereas Kelly's was unexpected.
Lesson: maybe it's good to keep a few secrets and surprise the crowd/judges.
Props to them (and all the other riders) for stepping up and pushing the limits.
have to agree... he threw big and absolutly RIPPED that mountain side apart! tough to decide between lacondeguy and mcgarry tho impressive from the kiwi too
Agreed, his line might not have been the most technical but he absolutely ripped it down the mountain like a mad man then threw some sweet tricks at the bottom. Watching his two runs were the most exciting in my opinion..
I would say that it should have been Kelly then Andreu, and probably Zink or TMac for third.... When Andreu pulled that Superman seatgrab (same with Kelly's backflip) I nearly shat myself. That was completely insane.
I didn't realise they cancelled all the 2nd run scores, I could have sworn Lacondeguy was above Zink for a minute, that sucks for Lacondeguy! He deserved 3rd perhaps
I think I enjoyed Andreu's run the most. So much speed and flow - he looked so confident over some treacherous lines, plus style for miles. I also loved McGarry's run. 3 backflips in one run? I know it's not just a trick contest, but my god...! Healing vibes to our boy Logan. That was brutal.
Uh, Strait, McGarry, Zink, Lacondeguy, McCaul, Ferry, McCaul, Fairclough all placed, despite the wind. Norbs didn't get robbed of anything this year. Life isn't perfect and neither is he.
Its just pretty assuming to predict what could have happened with so many riders still to come down the course. I don't doubt Zink, you just cant say that shit....
Money. Any idea how expensive it is to rent those helicopters and all that production equipment? Plus medical staff and a bunch of other stuff I'm probably not considering. It's a huge event and I'm sure it's really expensive.
Yes it would have been expensive, but this is redbull we're talking about. I expect it was probably slightly more expensive to hold a trip to space for a couple of days then it would be to hold this for a day.
Imagine the setup costs in comparison! Allowing an extra day as contingency for an event held in the mountains, which is weather dependent is simply prudent.
I really feel for those guys who missed out on their second run.
The level was so high this year and I think there was more to come.
There were a few people "got robbed", but at least not by the judges this year.
I wish people like you understood this isn't just about tricks. There's a lot more too it. Especially how creative riders are with their lines. That's supposed to be a big point here. Yet, I saw how many riders taking the same lines? A lot, and they scored lower and rightfully so.
Yeah but then what if Semenuk had finished? or Norbs got a second run? It's all speculation Zink could have continued and crashed scoring lower than he did but he didn't, he played it safe and walked away in one piece with a podium finish.
Strait had some stylish tricks, no huge bangers, but his run was also way different than anyone elses, his line was crazy, and he rode it all practically flawlessly and with style. I'm not a big fan and really wish some other riders had taken it, but he earned it.
If McGarry landed the canyon gap w/o the small case, he wouldn't have gotten robbed. If Zink had done one or two more features - not even large ones - with just a hint of style, he'd be the 2-time champ. All Strait did was manhandle some steep-and-techy lines up top and suicide a 50+ft drop (and a damn smooth, clean one at that) and kept charging to the finish. Ultimately, he flowed from top-to-bottom better than anybody, imho.
All I know is that was one of the rowdiest throw-downs any of us has ever witnessed. Debate THAT.
Before anyone starts with the crap saying the judges got it wrong. I'd like to say that they did a great job today and it was a lot fairer than last year..
What? Graham didn't even have a complete run? How would he have fallen ahead of Strait? I think it should have been McGarry, Strait, Lacondeguy, Zink, T. McCaul
No offence keirux, but Zink's run had one feature in it, albeit one of the biggest flips ever, and the rest of it was well, a bit shit, Aggy didnt manage to put a whole run together, and Kyle Straits run was full of flow, style and a huge suicide no hander...
keirux, U re right about the podium, unfortunately Laconderguy 2nd run was not pointed, and I think in this case the 3rd goes to Strait. Don`t know what judges saw, but people saw it better
How is Straights run better than Mcgarrys? McGarry went inverted a couple times, and of course backflipping the gap pushed the sport into new territory. All from a guy you wouldn't expect that kind of performance. Awesome.
Straight? he recycled a trick from 2004 on the sender. In my mind, no contest.
Freeriding is all about your line and how you feel about riding . Where as a free ride competition is all that but you have got to appeal to judges and move on with the time with more tricks and an altogether exciting run .
Everyone is speculating over mcgerry not getting first when he got second... Atleast last year, norbs got 10th which is a huge misjudgement. This year was judged much better
You have to mix things up , Kelly only done backflips and doing the massive canyon gap . If Kelly were to have done something different he would have scored higher .
The only people who got "robbed" were the riders who didn't get to drop their second runs, and the spectators who waited 365 days for this!! We ride nature, and sometimes it says no. Strait makes history, McGarry & Lacondeguy are stoked. Long live Rampage...
I've waited one year for this, and it's suspended for the wind at the half of the event, fuck it!
McGarry deserved the 1st, Zink the 2nd and Lacondeguy the 3rd.
I'm thinking he wanted to throw down the rest of the way but, after landing something like that back-flip, it has to be impossible to function properly. I know I'd be tripping balls on adrenaline rolling away from it if I were him.
He didn't need to do much, either. Another jump/drop or two with a hint of style would have managed.
So, how about that Tyler McCaul? Why isn't his huge flip drop to MASSIVE HUCK being raved about? His second run was incredible. Fairclough also deserves some props here. That World Cup speed and style was so fun to see.
I was so stressed as Zink dropped in. I didn't want to see him be seriously injured or worse in front of his pregnant wife... but he and Strait nailed it. Would have loved to see them them take 1-2.
Anyway, thank you to all of the riders. You put it all on the line for our entertainment. Who cares about rankings!? You guys are legends!
Why, because you think that it has to be aired live, needing the helo's out there to film? Have it opened to the public? It wouldnt take no more money than what is going to be spent going back out there tomorrow to start cleaning up. Go out there, let the riders finish amongst themselves with the judges then post it up for the world to see.
I have , and I can assure you that for Red Bull, this event is way under budget. Like I said earlier it wouldn't cost too much more if anything to just go out there and let the last group of riders finish thief second run.
I bet the schedule could be easily changed for the missed opportunity to win the biggest event of the year. If I was a sponsor and my rider missed out a run due to weather and he called explaining that it would continue in the morning, I would say great do your best to win it!!
Ummmm....the riders DO have personal lives also... they're not just competing so armchair whiners can get their jollies off watching them and rooting for crashes. I think just before Cam Zink dropped in on his run the commentator mentioned how he's off to get back to his pregnant gf after the competition. How dare he rob you of your free entertainment.
If you say so immacaroni....deeeight, you need to read my post a little better. Its obvious you haven't competed at a top level at anything and in a sense feel "robbed" of an oppertunity. I am willing to bet if you asked the riders who had not made their second run to return the following day they would all say yes.
And what have you competed at a top level in c-rod? Tiddly Winks doesn't count for this discussion. I'm not feeling robbed of anything, other than the time of my life I've lost reading your nonsense.
Then stop reading my nonsense. Other wise ask Jim Sharp , Clint Branger, Ty Murry what I've competed in at a top level, and what it feels like to get "robbed". Situations are situations when you look at the way you do, but from the competitors point of view it's totally different. I do understand where you are coming from and the reasons from the business standpoint. Every rider there has the ability to win that event or like you and I wouldn't be there. For those that did not get the chance to take advantage of that second run they will never know .
I don;t see how bull riding applies to mountain bike big mountain competition... other than there's "riding" involved and the chance to get killed on television.
You don't?? Competition is competition it doesnt matter if you are riding bikes, bulls, racing cars, or anything else it is still competition. you said "And what have you competed at a top level in c-rod" you never specified in mountain biking you did specify in a top level competition.
Based on just the tricks...yes. This is a big mountain contest and not slopestyle. They also judge for line choices, how they flow them and also tricks. Based on that, I feel they got it correct. Personally, it was a coin-flip between 1st and 2nd. As sick as Zink's flip was, there wasn't much else afterwards. That's where I feel Lacondeguy should have gotten 3rd.
I'm not a fan-boy of any particular rider aside from all of them. That being said, what a killer throw-down we were able to witness...it's a pity it got cut short. That place was about to go off!!
zinks run was not worth a 3rd in my opinion... yessss absolutly sick trick.. but this is best run not best trick!
garrygarrys run was awsum, same with lacondeguys.. speed, techy, steep and tricks-a-plenty! I LIKE!!!.
I think they got it right. You are right , it's not a best trick, which is why he got third. He pulled by far the best trick, while also riding a gnarly line up top, but had a poor lower section, so he was docked accordingly by the judges.
Judges are looking not just looking for single tricks but also Technicality of lines and SPEED and FLUIDITY...
All of which Kyle had, judges did a great job. stop saying a single tricks should win rampage...
Indeed. As much as I'd love to have seen everybody put down a 2nd run, it's great to see they are more concerned with the actual safety of the riders (ironic when you think about what the event is all about) over ratings, profit, etc.
Judging is such a tough call,
Zink threw down one of the craziest tricks to date..... history for sure. However, I think Andreu should have been in 3rd, seeing how he had a full run and upped his score in his second attempt. Strait and McGarry are up for debate...... The flip over the gap, was a game changer in that aspect as well, but Kyle threw down a solid big bike line, with allot of style and speed points. All and all, it's too bad the wind didn't hold out.
I totally concur with your entire post. It's honestly a coin-flip with Strait and McGarry and your assessment is spot-on. If McGarry lands that canyon-flip a little smoother, he'd be top-box after 1st run without a doubt in anybody's mind.
Nobody got robbed of seeing some serious riding going down...period.
at least the commentators were better this year, provided a bit of insight into it for people not into mountainbiking, instead of shouting holy mother trucker
Zink's flip was absolutely amazing!!! Just such a shame that he was so psyched about it that he pretty much forgot to finish off his run. Should have been the winning run but then he didn't follow through at the bottom. Not that I blame him. History making move.
there was definately quite a few standout moments in this years rampage, but dam i gota say, aggys dump 3 off that drop was fuckin unreal.. really wish he got his whole run.
I'm pretty sure he would have leveled that place had he stuck that last hip. I'm still tripping at how hard and far he sent it - would have been one hell of an exclamation point.
Hey Aggy, your run was awesome, so much style and flow! My favorite run of rampage even with the crash. I know you're probably bummed out but you put down a hell of a run! Keep your head high.
Was I the only one who thought genon got robbed? He cleaned everything nicely on super technical sections. And on a personal note. First year on a DH bike?? WHAT!!!!????!!
pretty sure in the back of his mind Zink will be glad he didn't have to go again and take the risk it would be the worst thing ever to be in hospital yourself the day you kid is born
There's no way he wouldn't have been on top after the 1st run had he stuck that...that...dear God, he went massive on that hip. Would have been the only run near 90pts after one run.
amazing rampage, everyone killed it so hard, top 10 were all awesome, zink and kelly are gods, aggy s line was insane, andreu s flow is untouched and strait is legendary, you cant fight weather so it s all good, they should make a series of rampage. THIS IS MTB FREERIDE
Really bummed that Aggy didn't get a second run. If he would've cleaned up the first run he could've podiumed if not won. Mad skills and style. NEXT YEAR
some dogdy judging imo. zinks run was shit apart form his back flip. then zink and strait just waited at the top for the wind to die down, tho it didnt seen any worse than for the other riders. call me a cynical but it seemed like they did well not doing their second run, well zink did, moved up to podium when andreu should have been in 3rd at least, and tylers run was better than zinks too.
do one huge jump and podium, even tho you did next to nothing on the rest of it.
I cannot believe that nobody else haven't seen the huge judging mistake. how Lacondeguy from 3rd became 4rth ????? since zink was 5th and did't took a second run he couldn't raise his score higher than Andrew or Tyler's score . Please check the scores on the replay at 2:40:11/4:20:52. Andrew had 86,25 ,Tyler had 85,75 and Zink had 84,75 at the end without any other rider dropping in due to the strong winds the score change into Zink 84,75 Andreu 84,25 Tyler 80,50 .Can somebody explain what happend ???? No offence to Zink he deserved to be 3rd and I am a HUGE fan of him but it seems that they stole the 3rd position from Andreu and the 4rth from Tyler what happened????????
Brendan Fairclough was robbed, of his sir name! It's pronounced Faircluff', not 'Fairclaw'. At first I thought they were giving him a new bad-ass nickname, but they were just pronouncing it wrong. Apart from that, and the wind cutting it short, it was awesome viewing!
No one even attempted the Big Girl drop except for Doerfling (ejected to avoid a case), then Strait (case that he barely rode away from), then Zink (still cased, but cleanest in practice). Then Strait and Zink come through, hit it for the SECOND time in their contest runs, and both of them throw huge tricks. In practice and leading up to the event, there were multiple riders saying the Big Girl line was too scary, and that they'd hit something else. I think it was Hunziker that said that drop scared him too much so he'd build a line into the Canyon Gap instead. The intensity of tricking that big of a drop, with such high consequence, after it's barely even been tested cannot be overstated.
Before Big Girl Kyle's run was SO clean and tech. Go watch it again, and look at how steep and burly that is, and how perfectly you have to skip across that crazy traverse line. Kyle made it look simple, and got rewarded. His run was fast, flowy, and BIG, including perfectly clearing a gap at the end that I think only two other riders even hit (granted, Doerfling f*cking backflipped it, which was super burly).
cos a 70ft backflip over a canyon has no consequences lol. it was a big drop but tmacs drop was as big and natural.
zinks flip was impressive but seems that everyone is forgetting some of the other huge things that went down. zink only did the flip and not much more in his run. hardly deserving of 3rd imo.
there's more of my justification for the judges' scoring below (look for the really long posts... sorry everyone). I'm happy to hear counterarguments, I just wanted to get my two cents out.
And yeah, Kelly's flip was outrageous and awesome, and TMacs line was my favorite of the whole day.
TMac: my personal favorite line (he skipped the steeps by jumping over all of them?!) and well-deserved fifth. That said, his first run felt a bit like he was feeling his line out, even though he rode it super cleanly. I still can't get over the size of that natural drop. I want someone to go out and measure that bad boy, because I think it's the biggest drop ever done.
Pierre: well deserved high-scoring run. Rode a pretty burly line and made it look easy, added tons of style, and two big tricks. I think the only thing keeping him from being higher up was that his line wasn't quite as burly as some.
The closest thing I think we saw to robbery was maybe Fairclough should've been a bit higher... But like with TMac, he had a super crazy run with some creative, largely untested moves, and the first run felt a bit more like he was feeling it out than he was really stomping stuff. I think he and TMac took one and two for creativity, though. I also think TMac's second run should've scored higher, but no point in arguing about second runs, unfortunately.
Would've loved to see Agassiz and Semenuk pull together full runs, but it just wasn't going to happen. I think if either of them had, we might be having a very different discussion today.
Overall, fantastic Rampage. Healing vibes to those hurt (Chubey you animal, Logan that was SO close…) I think there's a strong case to be made for keeping it at that venue for one more year. Thoughts?
kelly's flip was insanely huge, as well Zink's. Tough call for the judges, Kyle's run was clean, luck of the draw for Utah and Rampage, next year will be off the hook!
Zink did nothing after his drop all the way to the finish. He's lucky to have gotten 3rd. The only person robbed was Lacondeguy, who should have finished 3rd. Strait has a flawless top-section, which was techy as hell. The only other rider that flowed the top half better, imho, is Fairclough. If McGarry doesn't tag the canyon gap that little bit, it would have been him on top.
amazing backflip no wonder if he got podium, thats why mother nature doesnt want to watching others rider to do that suicide backflip....strait,mcgarry, and zink...you'r the winner for me....hats off
I was pretty crushed for him...he's had such bad luck at rampage lately (and its not like he can't ride that shit...hello backflip from lbb). I really just wanted to see what he had in store for his run...we hardly saw any of it.
If he could just complete a run he'd win again. This year, like last year, he pushed the envelope and went for insanely gnarly lines that he tried to trick as well. I'm not saying others didn't ride tech lines, but Semenuk's looked that extra bit more extreme. Massive props for his gut to risk that during competition again.
McGarry 1st, Zink 2nd, Lacondeguy 3rd, Strait 4th.
I give extra points to riders that try and kill themselves purposefully. But I honestly thought that Lacondeguys run was better than Straits. A bit more style and insanely fast. Props to all four though, amazing, simply amazing.
Yeah I gotta agree. I think most riders can relate to the type of line Strait pulled off and therefore would give him first. But coming from an average freerider viewer like me, the things McGarry Zink and Lacondeguy pulled off had so much more of a "wow" factor. And in the end, is it not about the viewers at home? Plus its so hard to tell how steep these lines are from the heli shot...
Graham agassiz run was so underrated. He tore qualifying apart. Made that valley his bitch. He hit every feature on course i saw it with my own eyes. I was there both days
I would love to know who in the riders opinion had the better trick Mcgarry or Zink? From our perspective and judges is one thing, but as far as the riders of the event, what would they be more afraid to do the gap or the drop?
i believe the judges were having hard time there. everyone was pushing to the limit and did amazing run top to bottom. at least that's what happened in top five run. respect to all of you and what you did in this sport. well see you in the next rampage.
1st Kelly McGarry (the canyon gap flip was massive and linked up with lots of other tricks) 2nd Andreu Lacondeguy (His run had plenty of DH speed and exposure and a solid link up of tricks) 3rd Cam Zink (that was the biggest backflip ever but then he played it safe expecting to be able to get a second run where he would link up the rest of his tricks but never got the chance) 4th Kyle Strait (plenty of technical line choice but only one big trip with the suicide no hander) 5th Tyler McCaul (also tech line choice and good speed with a good link up of tricks)
Harsh on Logan...healing vibes!
As far as the gnarly wrecks, there were a few. Semenuk made the save of the day on his 1st run. He was scary-close to falling a long, long way.
So pinkbike made an article all about Benderoni but didn't cover anything on his runs at the event. What happened with the open loop? Did he wreck on it?
Kelly should have won! He did more tricks than Kyle and even though he just cased his flip on the canyon gap it was still ridiculously smooth. Way sicker run than Kyle's.
Yeah Fairclough....nice job man. So stoked for McGarry, great run and well deserved 2nd. Zink raising the bar yet again. The man is completely committed to pushing the limits to the max.
So what happened, cuz i couldn't watch it till the end i waited for so long the part two of the second run did it ran at all ?? would appreciate if someone would answer me, thnx in advance !
McGazza has been doing the tour a while now and may have been getting a bit over it and then this year he front flips at X Games and Crankworx and then this result-more life in the 31 year old yet
mcgarry should of won HE WAS ROBBED! strait second,zink would of won if he continued his run after the big sender backflip!!
1. Kelly McGarry
2. Kyle Strait
3. Cam Zink
the peoples vote!!
McGarry's run was great, but he looked less confident on his tech lines up top than Strait, and from my laptop throne, they looked a bit less intense (aka, very hard for me to make that judgment, but that's just how it looked). The canyon flip was huge, somewhat unexpected, and 100% badass, but it's over a jump that people have been doing for years—with Hunziker, Agassiz, McCaul, Steenbergen, McGarry (others?) all hitting it this year—that likely would've been backflipped last year if Zink hadn't popped so damn hard off that lip in practice. His run afterwards was great: huge road gap, corked backflip on a big hip, but he also got a bit off-line and lost in the sage, unlike Kyle, who came charging into the finish area.
Zink: biggest backflip ever. History made. He called it out and landed it SO perfectly. A 3rd well-deserved, in my opinion, but it's not a best trick. He knew he needed more in run 2.
Lacondeguy: There's a reason he and Vink were able to ride their top line so fast and flowy: because they're total badasses. But also, because it just wasn't as steep, exposed, and burly as some of the other lines out there. That said, it's still incredibly steep, exposed, and burly, but compared to some of the other lines up top, it was a bit lacking. Granted, he threw a backflip (over a relatively safe jump compared to Gully's or TMac's backflips), hit the old Sender (that many have hit) and rode a pretty standard line below, albeit with another massive backflip and a sweet one hand super seater. Basically, the best merits of Andreu's runs were the tricks and the speed (possible b.c of a less burly line), so all those people not wanting Rampage to become a slopestyle? Stop saying that Andreu got robbed.
Heard Zink got moved off his line after the sender because of improperly moved people and barricades. Not sure if its true. Also first words on Bingelli was a broken femur.
Just as things were about to really heat up, the wind took the wind out of our sails. Unfortunate as hell, but it was still one of the best events I've watched to this point. All kinds of next-level riding was going down.
As much of a legend that Zink is and will always be, I'm surprised he got 3rd only because he just coasted the rest of his run after his epic drop-flip. Then again, had he pressed on and added to his run, the score might have been 150 or more. We will never know...
RobBull Rampage aka ROBBed U aLL. Lucky me, I won. I bet, Andreu will not stay in 3rd and Kyles score will be judged different by the public. Maybe behause RB is again not able to bring justice into the TV pics. The Cam Positions and the Cut and Zero Editor made extra info features about the radness of the Chosen Lines helped to not Trust the verdict of the judgement.
Well for one it's not a best trick contest. Second he did that suicide no hander off one of the biggest drops ever done. A drop that all but one other rider at the comp would even attempt. I can't believe how people are selling that short, like its a stock move to send a no hander off a 50 foot drop.
They are also judging the riders in the top, steep sections for line choices and how they actually flow their run...not just "best trick". Tricks do raise scores, but it's not the only thing riders get scored on.
I think red bull rampage sorta sucked this year because the lack of fan appreciation?? Did anyone else notice the class system of red bull bull shit this year?? Totally catering to the folks who aren't rampagers, while shitting on the real fans. Love cam Zink for life!!
Or, she sensed something worse than Bingelli's crash (healing vibes!) was about to happen and she decided to "shut the front door" on her own. At the rate the first round went, somebody easily could have died out there trying to one-up what had already happened. In that sense, we should be fortunate we will never know.
why was the moto guy ronnie renner such a d bag at 1:46:00 ?!?!??! he puts down DH riding and gives his hat away and walks off camera. i hope others saw that loser. just because he wasnt in the spot light he acts like a little brat!!!!
Rampage = do a suicider on the bigest jump and get the win. It´s not 2004 any more! I saw better lines. Respect for McGazza, Lacon hammer run and of course Zink. Heartstroke moment!!!
You do realize they also judge on the top part of the hill where it's super-steep and exposed. THAT is where Strait got separation from the rest. He rode the hell out of a super-techy section - actually made it look smooth and easy (read: flowed). Only Fairclough looked better up top, imho.
If anybody shouldn't be on the podium (get those negative-props ready), it's Zink...only because he coasted to the bottom after sticking the drop-flip...and there was lots of terrain still to be had. As you said, it's not 2004 anymore.
I thought the same at first, but at the same time, this isn't a best trick comp. That stunt was huge, but the rest of his run really wasn't up to par as far as the rest of Rampage was going. Too bad he couldn't have gotten his second run in... I could tell he had something special up his sleeve!
How do you pull a freaking BACKFLIP off the icon sender and not take 1st?! Strait had a solid run but man Zink should have been put up higher, just my opinion.
Zink didn't do anything else than that jump, he rolled every jumps and was lost at the lower part. Like in 2010 with his 360. He can't win 2 times with that...
That's a good point... Guess I'm just a bit upset at the wind cancellation. Would have been sick to see what everybody could have pulled out the second time around.
@cleangetaway : A lot of riders put some bigs runs, with big lines and big tricks like Lacondeguy and McGarry or Tyler Mccaul. They do some big stuff in ALL their line. Yes, the line that Strait choose at the sender is the biggest line and his suicide no-hander was big. But the rest of his line was "basic" compared to the others riders. But, yeah, it's my opinion...
cool. i just think its favored towards one big trick off a wood feature nowadays. it just is what it is, but if i could choose it would be more natural and putting together a whole run
Despite a couple really scary falls (just wait till you see that dude from SLC who ejected over the front end and down a double stager cliff), everyone was so on point and slaying. Andreu was ripping that top section like a dh trail in his back yard.
Personally I think mcgarrys run was better than straits...
And I challenge anyone to not "hold it together" after back flipping the sender like Zink. Total commitment- stick it or be a paraplegic.
Not stoking the crowd, not providing stats, rider bio/data, music...big guy needed a wingman!
I would've had it Kelly->Andreu->Kyle or Cam. But that's the way it goes with judged events. I'm glad Kelly got the People's Choice award.
Lesson: maybe it's good to keep a few secrets and surprise the crowd/judges.
Props to them (and all the other riders) for stepping up and pushing the limits.
tough to decide between lacondeguy and mcgarry tho impressive from the kiwi too
his run was so clean,fast & full of trick
I really feel for those guys who missed out on their second run.
The level was so high this year and I think there was more to come.
There were a few people "got robbed", but at least not by the judges this year.
All I know is that was one of the rowdiest throw-downs any of us has ever witnessed. Debate THAT.
1 McGarry
2 Cam Zink
3 Andreu Lacondeguy
4 Graham Assasiz
5 Kyle Strait
Straight? he recycled a trick from 2004 on the sender. In my mind, no contest.
He didn't need to do much, either. Another jump/drop or two with a hint of style would have managed.
As Dexta said.....
I was so stressed as Zink dropped in. I didn't want to see him be seriously injured or worse in front of his pregnant wife... but he and Strait nailed it. Would have loved to see them them take 1-2.
Anyway, thank you to all of the riders. You put it all on the line for our entertainment. Who cares about rankings!? You guys are legends!
But yes, if there is a compromise to be made maybe they should put a reward for best trick
No one even attempted the Big Girl drop except for Doerfling (ejected to avoid a case), then Strait (case that he barely rode away from), then Zink (still cased, but cleanest in practice). Then Strait and Zink come through, hit it for the SECOND time in their contest runs, and both of them throw huge tricks. In practice and leading up to the event, there were multiple riders saying the Big Girl line was too scary, and that they'd hit something else. I think it was Hunziker that said that drop scared him too much so he'd build a line into the Canyon Gap instead. The intensity of tricking that big of a drop, with such high consequence, after it's barely even been tested cannot be overstated.
Before Big Girl Kyle's run was SO clean and tech. Go watch it again, and look at how steep and burly that is, and how perfectly you have to skip across that crazy traverse line. Kyle made it look simple, and got rewarded. His run was fast, flowy, and BIG, including perfectly clearing a gap at the end that I think only two other riders even hit (granted, Doerfling f*cking backflipped it, which was super burly).
And yeah, Kelly's flip was outrageous and awesome, and TMacs line was my favorite of the whole day.
Pierre: well deserved high-scoring run. Rode a pretty burly line and made it look easy, added tons of style, and two big tricks. I think the only thing keeping him from being higher up was that his line wasn't quite as burly as some.
The closest thing I think we saw to robbery was maybe Fairclough should've been a bit higher... But like with TMac, he had a super crazy run with some creative, largely untested moves, and the first run felt a bit more like he was feeling it out than he was really stomping stuff. I think he and TMac took one and two for creativity, though. I also think TMac's second run should've scored higher, but no point in arguing about second runs, unfortunately.
Would've loved to see Agassiz and Semenuk pull together full runs, but it just wasn't going to happen. I think if either of them had, we might be having a very different discussion today.
Overall, fantastic Rampage. Healing vibes to those hurt (Chubey you animal, Logan that was SO close…) I think there's a strong case to be made for keeping it at that venue for one more year. Thoughts?
McGarry in first
Zink in second
Lacondeguy in third
1st Kelly McGarry (the canyon gap flip was massive and linked up with lots of other tricks)
2nd Andreu Lacondeguy (His run had plenty of DH speed and exposure and a solid link up of tricks)
3rd Cam Zink (that was the biggest backflip ever but then he played it safe expecting to be able to get a second run where he would link up the rest of his tricks but never got the chance)
4th Kyle Strait (plenty of technical line choice but only one big trip with the suicide no hander)
5th Tyler McCaul (also tech line choice and good speed with a good link up of tricks)
Zink: biggest backflip ever. History made. He called it out and landed it SO perfectly. A 3rd well-deserved, in my opinion, but it's not a best trick. He knew he needed more in run 2.
Lacondeguy: There's a reason he and Vink were able to ride their top line so fast and flowy: because they're total badasses. But also, because it just wasn't as steep, exposed, and burly as some of the other lines out there. That said, it's still incredibly steep, exposed, and burly, but compared to some of the other lines up top, it was a bit lacking. Granted, he threw a backflip (over a relatively safe jump compared to Gully's or TMac's backflips), hit the old Sender (that many have hit) and rode a pretty standard line below, albeit with another massive backflip and a sweet one hand super seater. Basically, the best merits of Andreu's runs were the tricks and the speed (possible b.c of a less burly line), so all those people not wanting Rampage to become a slopestyle? Stop saying that Andreu got robbed.
Zink won best trick, btw.
Kelly Mcgarry first, for me !!
Kyle Norbraten (among many others) didn't get a chance for a second run.
This was a decision taken by people other than himself, without prior consultation. That opportunity was, you might say, «taken away from him».
Therefore, « Norbs STILL got robbed»
PS: Zink crushed it.
Love cam Zink for life!!
Holy shit, i wanna see the second run... why not today?
1. Cam Zink
2. Kyle Strait
3. Andreu Lacondeguy
4. Kelly McGarry
If anybody shouldn't be on the podium (get those negative-props ready), it's Zink...only because he coasted to the bottom after sticking the drop-flip...and there was lots of terrain still to be had. As you said, it's not 2004 anymore.
Yes, the line that Strait choose at the sender is the biggest line and his suicide no-hander was big. But the rest of his line was "basic" compared to the others riders. But, yeah, it's my opinion...