Day One Randoms - Taipei Show 2016

Mar 2, 2016 at 3:11
by Mike Kazimer  
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Taipei Show 2016
Worried about blending in with the crowd? This bright pink Met Parachute helmet should help.


Taipei Show 2016
Taipei Show 2016


More 27.5+ and 29+ Options From Maxxis

At the moment, other than Schwalbe's 2.8" Nobby Nic, there's a distinct lack of tires with aggressive tread patterns for 27.5+ bikes. That's scheduled to change, and within the next four to six months Maxxis will be offering a selection of their most popular tread patterns in 27.5 x 2.8" widths, including the High Roller II and the Minion DHR II shown above. The Minion DHR II and DHF will both also be available in a 29 x 3.0" option, for all the 29+ riders out there.


Taipei Show 2016
Long stems may be out, but what about bedazzled ones?



Taipei Show 2016
Taipei Show 2016


Box Components Drivetrain and Brakes - Still Coming Soon

It's been over three years since we first saw a prototype version of Box Components' derailleur and shifter, and although they should hit the market before the Cubs win a World Series title, it's still going to be at least another six months before production versions of the drivetrain are available. The samples on display did look even more refined, and the shape of the unique single lever shifter has been altered to be more ergonomic. The shifter still operates using a forward push to shift to an easier gear, and an inwards push to change to a harder gear, but the end of the paddle is now L-shaped. There will be 10 and 11 speed shifter and derailleur options, with wide range and short cage versions of the clutch equipped rear derailleur.



Taipei Show 2016
This Yeti 575 was looking mighty confused, set up with a fat tire in the rear, a narrower one up front, no dropper post, and a component color scheme that made me want to wash my eyeballs.


Taipei Show 2016
Taipei Show 2016

Factor 727 and 748 Carbon Wheels

Factor has two new carbon wheelsets on the way, and even more additions to the line are in the works. The 727 wheelset is aimed at DH racers, with an asymmetrical rim that measures 27mm internally and a claimed total weight of 2077 grams. The 748 wheels are for the growing number of 27.5+ bike on the market, and have a 48mm inner width to support the wider tires. Both wheelsets use Novatec's ultra-quick engaging hubs and will retail for $1800 USD.



Taipei Show 2016
WTB is adding a 29 x 2.25" version of the fast-rolling Riddler tire to their lineup, with a claimed weight of 840 grams and a retail price of $67.95 USD.



Taipei Show 2016
Looks like someone forgot to read the installation instructions.


Taipei Show 2016
"Should I swipe left, or right? It's so hard to decide. At least these headphones block out all the noise from people asking me questions about gloves."


Taipei Show 2016
Now there's a blast from the past - a GT iT1, circa 2005, although someone went ahead and installed a dropper post along with a fork and shock from DNM Suspension.


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110 Comments
  • 253 6
 So the first update from the show shows us a crappy bling road stem, a big pink helmet, a guy on a phone, a 2005 GT and the worst set up of a Yeti ever.... yeahhh.... thanks for that!
  • 91 1
 Welcome to Taipei.
  • 27 0
 That FSA Seatpost on the yeti makes me feel sick.
  • 16 0
 The good news is things can only get better from here... I hope.
  • 46 0
 I liked the trolly feel, usually bike shows have some real random shit and that is what the randoms bit should be about.
  • 7 15
flag Danpyo (Mar 2, 2016 at 4:46) (Below Threshold)
 what a waste of 3 minutes reading this article.. :S
  • 44 0
 I think PB did it to point out how much DUMB stuff the industry is trying to feed us. I liked seeing all this funny junk. This made me laugh. You know bling =speed. Go get you one of those stems.
  • 3 1
 I have a Yeti 575 and there is no F'ing way a plus tire would fit in the back end of that bike.
  • 7 19
flag Apostt (Mar 2, 2016 at 5:58) (Below Threshold)
 That Yeti is so f*cking ugly, I wouldn't even vote for photo of the year contest if this was the voter's prize.
  • 32 1
 Yes. Yes you would same as all of us. We are all cheap fucks who like free stuff.
  • 4 0
 Yes the guy destroyed that Yeti...
  • 6 7
 The poor Yeti even got it's water bottle cage installed upside-down, tisk tisk...
  • 5 2
 @Elspecialized I don't think it is dude, The tab captures the bottom of the bottle? Thats not the retaining lip?
  • 2 1
 Only inflate the tyre after mounting the wheel. You won't be able to spin it though.
  • 1 0
 Don't forget about the upside down thingamabob on the handlebar
  • 10 3
 Apparently I picked the wrong day to be sarcastic on Pinkbike, again.
  • 7 0
 sarcasm where you have to explicitly state that is sarcasm. BEST KIND OF SARCASM!
  • 2 0
 What's wrong with that helmet haha
  • 2 0
 It's why it's called random's,people. And that stem needs some gold plated bolts!
  • 1 0
 I'm pretty sure the yeti owner was going for a Broncos color theme. Esp since 95% of Yeti bike owners are Coloradans.
  • 44 2
 At least these headphones block out all the noise from people asking me questions about gloves. XD
  • 11 2
 "But I have to wear them right back to be compatible with my spiffy hair."
  • 31 1
 Lets be honest.....no one was asking him anything about those gloves.
  • 5 0
 Apprehensively working for his uncle's company...
  • 27 0
 I like all the comments PB made about their pictures. Keep calling out the dumb stuff it makes me laugh.
  • 20 2
 Lets spend lots of $ for a vender space. Then get on the phone and ignore everyone. What a as#hat.
  • 11 2
 if his boss reads pinkbike, i got bad news...
  • 5 2
 Nothing upsets me more than when in a store employ's are on the cell phone making you wait on them to finish a call or what not. @Bruccio your FIRED!
  • 11 6
 @properp *you're

sorry pal, but I couldn't resist the temptation of being a grammar nazi with an usa dude Big Grin
  • 31 1
 * a usa dude
  • 15 0
 Both of you missed "Employ's" instead of employees while you were being picky. Poor show.
  • 3 7
flag justgivemeanavailableusername (Mar 2, 2016 at 7:22) (Below Threshold)
 Maybe he was setting up a conf call with his boss. Maybe his wage is so low that it's not even worth to pretend. Anyway it's none of pinkbike's business and I find it quite upsetting them publishing his photo like this.
  • 5 1
 ouch. being a wiseass has its downsides. especially when you're wrong
  • 13 0
 I predict Box Components will get bought my the Fox/Race Face/Easton company, on its way to becomming the next complete component supplier.
  • 2 0
 It's the next frontier in multi gear selection technologies, at your fingertips. I may buy one.
  • 1 0
 As long as they get it right on release. Been watching their development for a couple years and they look like being the real deal once it's out, as long as it all works.
  • 1 0
 Fox partners with Shimano but maybe they will make a run for Box. I don't know why though since all Box ever talks about is how much work they are doing to get around existing patents... Never anything about how or why they will be better.

Box is the biggest opportunity missed for by a new drive train maker especially when their name is Box. They should be working on a gear box not another antiquated external multi cog system with another shitty chain line.

I'll suggest they don't intend to release their drive train and instead think it would make the company more attractive for acquisition for a group like Fox/RF/Easton... except that they are developing a mechanical system when electronic is the up coming tech and might never get around the existing patents or challenges from the companies that hold them.

Why would Box succeed at taking market share from Shimano and Sram when others like Campy, Mavic, Suntour and Paul failed?
  • 10 1
 Idk why your harping on the setup of the KS lever. When I had on my Giant post, the lever shape is very similar, although the throw was different. I ran it both ways multiple times and in the end settled on this same orientation. Just because something gives you instructions to run it in a specific way, doesn't mean it's always the best way. During the WC season PinkBike is filled with articles showcasing bikes with tons of mods to suit the riders needs, yet when it comes to joe-schmoe setting up a bike, he better damn well follow what they say, or be cursed to enternal damnation on PinkBike.
  • 3 0
 I thought it would still work regardless.
  • 2 1
 I think they were talking about the lack of a brake lever
  • 2 1
 Look closely... It's upside-down. Completely harp-worthy.
  • 4 0
 Please read my post before commenting; It's not "upside-down". There is no wrong or right way to set it up, it's personal preference. Like running your grips with the waffles down or up.
Try that lever like that and your thumb will still reach it, the cable will still be pulled, and the post will still go up and down.
  • 2 0
 I retract my comment. You're right. I need to see a doctor about this jerking knee of mine.
  • 2 0
 I prefer mine waffle side up. Holds syrup better that way.
  • 2 0
 You can make sure your syrup makes it evenly into all waffles. Don't want uneven distribution.
  • 1 0
 Damn straight! Syrup gets rid of that rubbery taste.
  • 2 0
 I hear the Canucks use maple syrup and let it dry to be extra tacky. Simmons says its stick-icky for super steep and slippery Shore and Squamish slopes.
  • 1 0
 lol Embarrassingly, I actually Googled that because it sounds vaguely plausible.
  • 8 0
 You know that the report sucks when you start to read and then, after reading only three lines, you go straight down to the awesome comment section and read each and one of them. Thanks for the comment section of each report PB!!!

Beer
  • 6 0
 Ooo, a plus size High Roller! I can't wait for all the reviews that tell me it's honestly not any slower than a normal tire, just so we can all appreciate how utterly full of crap that is.

What's next? Plus size Magic Mary? For when your 2.5" DH version just doesn't have enough traction?
  • 1 0
 Yeah because we need more plus size tires, but wait 36' tires are just around the corner... and of course 36+ will follow 2 years later. Yay! clean your garage out now.
  • 5 0
 If headphone dude is actually working the booth I have a feeling in the near future he will be updating his job title on LinkedIn from "Marketing & Sales" to "Currently looking for new opportunities".
  • 7 0
 That yeti is gender-fluid. Dont discriminate
  • 6 0
 $1800 for a wheelset at 2077g and novatec hubs?
  • 11 0
 Hey bike industry: we've got enough variety of $2000 wheelsets now, thanks.
  • 3 0
 And people complain about dt 1440g $1400 wheels on 240s. No pb access in Taiwan?
  • 3 0
 How on earth are box still in business? An operating model that takes 3 years to perfect is gonna be some good ass shizzle but how are they bankrolling without end product on the market. (Stamps feet) " I want it now " Wink
  • 3 0
 My bad just checked their website. Hands ass into mouth and chokes....
  • 1 0
 It looks like they make some really nice stuff. I have never seen anyone running it though.
  • 5 0
 They're big in BMX. Mtb is still a new market for them.
  • 6 0
 What's with the Elton john cock holder?
  • 4 0
 Man! Maxxis come out with a 26+ DHR II and I'd be totally sold... + sized DHR II sounds awesome though.
  • 4 1
 Just a little too heavy of a casing... Basically I'd like a tire that comes in around the same diameter of normal 27.5 mtb tires but in the 2.6-2.8 width and with real side lugs. The 27.5+ tires Maxxis showed look like a huge step forward, but if they could drop an inch off the BSD I'd be even happier (so 26+).
  • 3 0
 Same. I'd also take one as long as it's a true 2.7. Maxxis seems to come in quite a bit narrower than other brands generally.
  • 1 0
 Depends on what width rim you use
  • 1 0
 I think a 2.7 with endro casing would be so rad. I think the biggest thing the industry is going to get out of this fad is better casing technology.
  • 2 0
 @aljoburr so, my experience would say a maxxis 2.5 is about what a schwalbe 2.35 width is. you're saying this depends on rim width, and somehow a wider/narrower rim will expand/shrink a maxxis tire more than a schwalbe?
  • 2 0
 Re:"Looks like someone forgot to read the installation instructions..." That person would be a good fit building bikes at Walmart!
  • 4 1
 That GT...WTF?! Dropper on a poorly peddling DH rig AND DNM suspension. What a dream ride ????
  • 3 0
 Congratulations Stevie Wonder on working for Yeti speccing their components for bike shows.
  • 1 0
 I have seen some really nice bikes here in Korea built up with similar color "coordination". Got to wonder if it is a cultural thing in this part of the world.
  • 3 0
 Is that yetis's bottle cage downwards?
  • 1 0
 Ha! You're right. Didn't even notice that with all the other rediculousness.
  • 6 3
 Cubs will win world series this year!
  • 12 0
 the last time they won, the ottoman empire still existed.
  • 2 0
 Poor guy is delusional.
  • 4 1
 You mean Cube will win enduro world series?
  • 1 0
 Blame it on the Turks.
  • 2 0
 29x3 Minions!? Awesome. Hopefully there'll be room in my Stage for one of those.
  • 2 0
 Hopefully true to Maxxis sizing and come in around 2.8-2.8" wide which qould be super nice.
  • 1 0
 Yep, that would be perfect. Here's hoping!
  • 1 0
 No idea about other wheel sizes, but their Dual Ply case version does come in 2.7" width on 26".
  • 2 0
 @Mattin

No it doesn't. Like all their older 26" DHF models they are criminally undersized. The 2.7 dual ply you speak of is nice and moderately sized but only measures 63mm (2.48") at the knobs and casing on a 39mm inner width rim...... the 26 x 2.5 DHF's reach 2.35" wide if you're lucky.

Anyway, I knew that ~3" minion tires would happen eventually. Just hope they come for 26 as well eventually.... seems all the big companies have abandoned 26 sadly.
  • 2 0
 The old 2.7 were about 2.5. They were beastly heavy tho esp in dh casings
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty
Yeah it's thick... runs almost 1400g. You wanna talk beasty heavy though, one of my favourite DH tires is the Duro Leopard 26 x 3.0, at 1800g. Beasty as can be. Solid and squirm free without bottoming out even on the gnarliest jagged rocky trails running less than 10psi.
  • 1 0
 I specifically asked a Maxxis guy a couple weeks ago about measured sizes on 27.5+ tires, & at least for the Ikon & Rekon, 2.8" means 2.8" exactly, when measured on wider rim (somewhere between 40mm & 50mm, but I've forgotten.) Hope that helps a bit.
  • 1 0
 @Kyle201 if you want heavy try 3" wide Gazzaloddis. But boy did they grip. I miss those days but not muscling around a 50lb DH rig.
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty

The Gazzas are similar in construction to the Leopard's. They also went extinct before my time... and those apparently weighed in at about 1600-1700g which is less than my leopards Smile
  • 3 0
 DNM USD-8 spotted
  • 1 0
 Ive sold 30 of them
  • 2 0
 well that was a freak show..
  • 2 0
 Forgot about the GTi......umm thanks!
  • 2 0
 Bedazzled, a dude on Tinder...and a fugly Yeti in the middle.
  • 2 0
 Is that the long-awaited Revel X on the GT?!?!?! =)
  • 1 0
 Forgot to read the installation instructions? Or realized that dropper levers work best mounted like that...?
  • 2 0
 Here we aptly call them DNM shocks as " Does NOt Move".
  • 1 0
 I've been on 29+ for 2 years waiting on a less-xc front tire. Finally someone shows us some love.
  • 2 1
 Anyone recall the stupid wind powered light? Does it show up this year
  • 1 0
 after all that nonsense I should have a comment, but I don't. oh wait...
  • 2 0
 Frankenyeti
  • 1 0
 Damn PB you put that guy on blast hard lol!
  • 2 1
 Bedazzled! 8======D ~ ~ ~ ~ $
  • 1 0
 DNM Volcano Fork. That name doesn't instill confidence...
  • 1 0
 Digging the pink MET!!! Smile
  • 1 0
 Even yeti are too tight to cut fork steerers down.
  • 1 0
 People who want a meaty 27.5+ sized tire - Surly Dirt Wizard!
  • 1 0
 the future of MTB...
  • 1 2
 how dare you in 2016 show a bike without a stupid dropper post, i should be offended at this savagery







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