DVO Previews New Onyx D1 Fork

Mar 7, 2023 at 12:59
by Mike Kazimer  
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DVO Suspension rolled out a sneak peek of the upcoming Onyx D1 38 fork during the snowy Sedona Mountain Bike Festival this past weekend. As the name implies, the stanchions are 38mm, putting it in the same category as the Fox 38, RockShox Zeb, and Ohlins RXF38, forks that are designed for aggressive riding, whether that's at an enduro race, in a bike park, or on an eMTB.

Key features of the burly new fork include a floating 15mm thru-axle, a revised D1 damper design, and a brand new chassis that's claimed to be stiff and precise while delivering a smooth flex pattern.

Air bleed valves on the lowers aren't a new feature for DVO, although on the Onyx 38 they're situated lower down, rather than being just below the dust wiper like they are on the Onyx SC D1. The design resembles what's currently being used by Fox and RockShox, although hopefully DVO's design doesn't raise any silly legal issues.

The fork will be available in August with 160 - 180mm of travel. Keep an eye out for more comprehensive details and pricing when the Onyx 38 officially launches later this year.

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Bleed valves on the lowers, and a bolt-on fender.

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Externally adjustable high- and low-speed compression.
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A pinch bolt secures the 15mm thru-axle.


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  • 67 18
 assuming this new fork retains the OTT function, let's hope they revised it to be more robust. Previous OTT adjusters had like 400 clicks and each one took about .25Nm of force to advance. The problem arose when you hit either 1 or 400, it still took .25Nm to break the entire internal system when you went 1 too far. lol
  • 42 0
 I think the OTT adjustment dial is designed to be adjusted in full-rotation increments as opposed to clicks
  • 15 9
 @sarcosphaera: I think that is correct, except it has noticeable clicks and it breaks the SECOND you breath on it at it's stops. that was my point.
  • 24 50
flag plustiresaintdead (Mar 7, 2023 at 14:11) (Below Threshold)
 Ott is a total bodge to adjust negative springrate with a coil negative spring. I love how they've convinced people it's some kind of feature.
  • 26 0
 @plustiresaintdead: It certainly works for me. It adjusts to where I need it, and feels good.
  • 13 1
 can vouch for this. best feature ever but it works itself "tighter" meaning your negative spring becomes harder. I had to make a custom 5mm hex locker just to keep the thing steady. Other than that, best feeling fork ive used.

FIX IT
  • 9 0
 @plustiresaintdead: I’m not familiar with dvo so forgive me if this is obvious/dumb. So instead of a negative air spring that equalizes when moving through the travel they use a coil spring with a preload adjuster?
  • 5 3
 @plustiresaintdead: its only stupid if it doesn't work.....
  • 4 0
 @sudochuckwalla: Yes this is correct.
  • 10 33
flag plustiresaintdead (Mar 7, 2023 at 14:44) (Below Threshold)
 @Mtbdialed: It works great for people who have never tried anything else.
  • 31 0
 Are you turning the OTT with positive air pressure in the fork? Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe you are supposed to release the air pressure before adjusting the OTT.
  • 4 2
 @Mtbdialed: 100% this, and the spring was too light if you are a heavier rider. I sold my DVO fork because of this issue.
  • 4 1
 No shots of the air side and if they are still using OTT. If they are, I hope they fixed the self winding OTT issues.

38mm, OTT (assumed) = heaviest fork in its class
  • 20 0
 @plustiresaintdead: I've ridden full coil (Old-school Marz), self-equilizing air (Fox/RS), dual chamber air (Manitou Mattoc and Dorado), and DVO OTT (on Diamond and Onyx), and I can honestly say that OTT system works well for me. I'm not sure why you're making blanket statements about riders and their experiences.
  • 6 20
flag bigmeatpete420 (Mar 7, 2023 at 15:26) (Below Threshold)
 It has 8 full rotations. Dvo forks are very complicated to set up right
  • 6 1
 @ebschroderus: Yeah, probably slightly heavier than the suntour 38, because of the OTT assembly (assumed) and DVO actually runs an oil bath in the lowers.
  • 13 1
 Yup. Just because it clicks you need full rotations. Simple to discover when you read the manual! My OTT works perfectly, and that coil like sensation off the top is second to none.
  • 4 0
 @jdendy: It says it on the fork leg...right above the OTT adjuster.
  • 1 0
 Double post
  • 9 0
 @sudochuckwalla: Yes and the coil negative only affects initial travel. This actually works very well and allows you to use as much air pressure as you need for support on the positive without sacrificing small bump sensitivity. This is what I've done now with my Diamond, went 10psi over recommended for my weight, but added some extra turns of OTT and the fork rides high but is still supple. DVO might look complicated to adjust, but their manual and recommended setting actually make it very easy to find a good starting point and then fine tune fir your conditions/preferences. Cons: they are heavier than most equivalent forks and the OTT tends to unwind itself with use so you need to check it or use the 3D printed hex lock thingy.
  • 2 0
 @mininhi: @mininhi: that is the only downside for me, impossible to tune before I realised the problem. But a few holes in the adjuster and a split pin and it's been set and forget. The only fork I've been able to get both plush and supportive without a custom tune (@63kg/140lbs)
I like it so much I now have 2, but the 2nd got the split pin treatment as soon as it was out of the box.
  • 8 1
 You need to release the air pressure before making OTT adjustments. Read the manual.
  • 4 0
 OTT also needs to be adjusted with all the air out the fork so you won’t break the internals
  • 3 1
 @Mtbdialed: sounds like a dodgy unit or you're not letting air out before adjusting it, there are no detents so any clicking is the spring torquing up then slipping.
  • 1 0
 @jdendy: bingo
  • 7 0
 @mtbdialed hard to tell what you are talking about. The OTT has 14 full rotations, not clicks, and you adjust it with an allen key, and no pressure in the chamber. If you found resistance is probably because you did not adjust it without pressure in the chamber and ... you damaged it.

Anyway, my DVO diamond is hands down the best fork I ever owned. Incredibly adjustable AND you can easily change the shims yourself, as I did, for that perfect ride.
  • 1 0
 @Mtbdialed I don't believe those forks go to eleven.
  • 2 0
 @Turpsicle: any photos of your ott agjusters with pin, please...
  • 2 0
 @ka81: The 3D printed cap also works quite well, if you don't want to drill and Pin the OTT adjuster.
  • 1 0
 To adjust the OTT adjuster you first have to let the air out of the fork. Never adjust the OTT dial with air inside.
OTT doesn't have clicks it works in full rotations 12 in total.
Never had any problems with it as it is a set-and-forget feature (after using the reference guide on their website) by how much you weigh.. More rotations for more weight and fewer rotations for less weight. DVO does do things a bit differently from the big 2 but once you get your head around it.. the products are amazing with great customer care and easy for the average Joe to service.
  • 47 3
 love that anodized green that matches nothing
  • 22 0
 Genius if you ask me, as it makes you inherently more likely to buy one of their shocks to match
  • 14 1
 @samdaman1: ...or less likely to buy either?
  • 2 0
 yeah, sometimes I like when some pieces are standing out from the rest of the bike but that shade of green is unmatchable haha
  • 1 1
 @Tambo: correct answer... no shop around me is doing maintenance for DVO stuff anyway (and I can't be bothered to do it myself)
  • 1 0
 @Wojciek0: except for that saddle.
  • 1 4
 @Tambo: Wanted to buy their coil shock but the green kept me away. My religion forbids me any green parts.
Same thing was with skis. Elan Wingman 86 felt so godamn good but that green gave me shivers
  • 1 0
 Agreed. I have a gravel bike with green anodizing and matching green is near impossible. Ryet's seatpost clamp is very similar to DVO's coloring though (buddy has full DVO suspension for comparison).
  • 1 0
 It's the same shade as my Specialized Boomslang pedals.
  • 3 1
 @f00bar: They shouldn't have to. DVO suspension is quite literally the easiest suspension to service out of any company, with basic tools. The internal engineering is very well thought out for easy DIY repairs/rebuilds.
Who cares about color when they are some of the best feeling suspension on the market? I haven't ridden anything to date that would change my mind. I'm still keeping my Emerald as long as possible. Reminds me of the old plushness of Marz. I guess for me, function over fashion, but I've had a couple of bikes where the green does well to set it off.
  • 1 0
 @krashDH85: doesn't matter, won't bother taking apart a fork/shock in my apartment, when I can pay someone to take care of that mess for me
  • 3 0
 @f00bar: All good, some people weren't built to turn a couple wrenches.
  • 2 1
 @krashDH85: absolutely, some people work with their brains instead of their hands
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: Man, those people that can do both must be super humans. I'll pat myself on the back
  • 1 0
 ...buys frame that matches
  • 43 7
 38mm and still looks terrible next to the battery pack downtube.
  • 2 1
 i think it's the fork itself, the lowers
  • 29 1
 Bring back the emerald!!!
  • 3 0
 I agree as i still rum emeralds on my bike love my forks
  • 27 1
 Fox is gonna love those bleeder valves
  • 3 1
 DVO has been using the bleeder valves for a while now. I would argue since 2013 or when ever the DVO emerald was initial sold. That means they most likely already have a license deal with Fox.
  • 2 0
 @kroozctrl: still do, all replacement parts for a dvo are fox parts
  • 7 0
 Original Marzocchi (AKA DVO) had floating axles and basic bleeder valves circa year 2000.
  • 1 0
 @calarco68: ALL replacement parts? You mean, like, seals, lowers, shims, axles, CSU...? Wouldn't that mean Suntour makes Fox?
  • 1 0
 @Fribble: Idk I am kinda with you on this. It is a known fact that SR suntour manufactures DVO. SR suntour HQ is in Japan. Fox Factory has a manufacturing facility in Taiwan.

Also DVO Onyx is a 35mm stanchion fork. The new version 38mm.

So if anything, they only get support from fox regarding the bleeder valve. But all other components are from SR suntour. Because looking at SR suntour DC fork and coil shock, they are rebranded DVO Onyx and Jade respectively.
  • 17 0
 Dayum! Looks like a fork!
  • 16 0
 I'll buy when it has 40 mm legs, 1.5 steerer tube and a 20 mm axle. We're almost back in 2008...
  • 2 0
 The Rock Shox was such a badass fork back in the day
  • 1 0
 @t-rick: Loved my totem
  • 2 0
 @burt-reynolds: Still have a 180mm coil totem stashed away!
  • 1 0
 @darwin: that's so sick. Even the graphics on the bottom of the stanchion are cooler than the boring geometry shapes we get on today's forks
  • 15 0
 "putting it in the same category as the Fox 38, RockShox Zeb, and Ohlins RXF38" No Mezzer love?
  • 5 0
 To be fair the Mezzers are 37mm not 38mm, plus they’re also somehow significantly lighter than all the ones listed there, which means they kind of occupy a category all of their own I guess?
  • 9 0
 @samdaman1: Would like to see some independent stiffness tests. In terms of the stanchions themselves, wall thickness also plays a role - no idea what each brand has. However I suspect that crown design, lowers design and even axle design play a bigger role than 1mm of tube OD.
  • 3 1
 Funny to see forks are categorized by stanchion diameter. Does that put DJ forks in the same category as XC forks? Wouldn't even be too odd to choose axle diameter as a means of dumbing down. These forks here take 15mm axles. Another one would obviously to just not dumb down.
  • 2 0
 @DaveRobinson81: these are all really good points, I feel like whenever anyone actually discusses fork stiffness everything is very anecdotal, I’d love to see some proper scientific tests! I’d also love to see testing related to bushing overlap, binding, and how much performance is affected under different levels of lateral and torsional flex, because no fork is ever going to be used on a bike with a 90 degree head angle that is only ever ridden in a straight line
  • 18 5
 i wish there were more coil fork options.
  • 13 1
 Properly done like the Smashpot conversion tho, not like ohlins, marzocchi and so on with 3 springs to choose from
  • 7 3
 That coil negative spring (OTT), if still present, is pretty freaking good. In a blind test most would fail to feel the difference.
  • 5 1
 Helm coil tried it and it feels like marzocchi 55 66 etc. No need to try more options
  • 5 2
 Formula Selva C, great fork, plenty stiff, very light, far better damper than a Helm.
  • 2 0
 @sanchofula: never seen one in the wild. Keep getting tempted by ebay listings though.

Have you had chance to play swapping the damper valves.?
  • 3 0
 @NicolaZesty314: ohlins has almost the same amount of coil weight offerings as the smashpot. 5lb increments from 40lbs to 60lbs.
  • 8 2
 @Kebabroll: had one and sold it after 5 rides. Easily the worst MTB product I bought in 16 years… wanted to love it as much as my Cura 4 but no chance. I tried it with the blue, gold anf silver valve, sent it back where they calibrated the bushings but I still couldn‘t use more than 70% of travel no matter what I did. 70-75kg kitted with a light spring. The coil chamber has a rubber o-ring which enables an air progression in the spring chamber, but that is zero adjustable and seems to not work with the light spring (the progression stays the same no matter the spring rate) and each compression valve has tons of high speed which you cannot reduce. I rode all valves completely open. Compared to my previous Lyrik and the later Zeb in the same bike, the Selva C was unrideable. I also asked if the valves can be custom shimmed with less high speed, which is not possible.
  • 7 1
 MRP Ribbon. I can’t say enough good things about it.
  • 4 2
 I miss my Fox Van 36 RC2 160mm. That was a rad fork with a lot of adjustability.
  • 1 0
 @Keegansamonster: correct, but the 3 compression option is a no go for me, should’ve mention that
  • 1 0
 @jzPV: agreed. Far worse than the helm
  • 1 0
 @sanchofula: Looks like a great fork, that Selva. How do you feel the damping is better than the Helm? Just that it goes softer? My Mk1 Helm feels great but it is on the firmer side.
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: Why would anyone downvote this? The old 36 coil is literally one of the best forks I've ridden in 20 plus years. A little heavy, but super plush, reliable and easy to dial in with the adjusters.
  • 1 0
 @jzPV: well I won’t be buying one of those then!
Cheers for the informative reply. Maybe a coil conversion kit for my trusty pike instead
  • 2 1
 Coil is too heavy. I ran a 38 with vorsprung kit, weighted the same as a fox 40. For faster riding, its also not really that great. You get a very supple off the top feeling, but the fork blows through the travel quite a bit due to lack of ramp up. You can firm up the spring, but then medium sized hits end up being harsher.
  • 2 1
 @8a71b4: The weight is negligible Most people wouldn't even notice it IMO. Let's put it this way, I went from a 160mm, 26" bike with coil front and rear. To a 160/170mm 29er with air front and rear. and they both weigh about 35-1/2 lbs, running DH tires. And as far as blowing through the travel goes. I had way more tuning time invested into getting my air suspension dialed in to where it felt supple enough without blowing through all the travel, or damn near it. Ended up having to add volume spacers, even though I only weigh about 160 lbs. But I RARELY bottomed out my coil sprung bike tbh. But hey, different bikes, different terrain and different riders who like a different "feel" I suppose. Cool
  • 18 6
 why is it on an e bike, worlds changing
  • 10 1
 Because e-bikes are heavy and benefit from a stiffer fork.
  • 1 0
 Muscle bikes are slowly being phased out, you haven't heard?
  • 8 1
 Stupid DVO!

They made this fork WAY too adjustable and robust. And even though if you call them they'll totally pick up the phone and handle your bullshit even though they're WILDLY under staffed, how come I have to read manuals and know what I'm doing to work on stuff? why cant it be smarter than I am dumb?
This is bullshit!

Related. Really. make a black option for your models. I'd be rocking a topaz NOW if it wasnt green and silly looking on my rig. only coming in green is UNACCEPTABLE
  • 11 3
 Bleed valves. *Fox kicks the door in with a lawsuit*
  • 7 0
 FBI open up!!!!!!
  • 10 0
 @Roost66: Fox Be Investigate'n
  • 4 3
 Too late, DVO has been drink scotch with Fox since 2013. So the fact that you notice now is sad. Pinkbike has been posted DVO fork info for a while now.
  • 4 0
 More fork than I will never need, but I want to mention that my DVO diamond is hands down the best fork I ever owned.

It is incredibly adjustable out of the box, but in addition you can easily change the shims yourself, or DVO can do it for you, to achieve that perfect ride. At my weight, 156 pounds, is the only fork I owned in 30 years of riding that sucks up everything: from little bumps on the trail, washed out trail rock gardens, to big (well ok in my case sort of big) hits and jumps.
  • 7 0
 Finally owning the SR Suntour colors.
  • 1 0
 I heard they are made by Suntour.
  • 2 0
 @zoobab2: Suntor makes then, DVO spec internals
  • 9 0
 @zoobab2: a lot of forks are made by Suntour, not just DVO, they’re the biggest bicycle suspension manufacturer in the world if I’m remembering correctly
  • 4 0
 @samdaman1: Ohlins too.
  • 15 0
 We are a family-owned suspension company with our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 2 0
 @zoobab2: We are a family-owned suspension company with our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 3 0
 @bman33: We are a family-owned suspension company with our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 5 0
 @DVOSuspension: 100%. Maybe my statment was too broad (bascially meant what you said). I have owned several DVO's and still run an Onyx on one of my bikes. Love my DVO, not meant as derogatory .
  • 2 0
 @DVOSuspension: and shared parts inside the shock and also shock bodies of the air shocks
  • 1 0
 @Simpancz: You mean Ohlins is made under contract by Suntour? Ohlins is owned by the muffler company that previously owned Marzocchi before selling it to Fox.
  • 1 0
 @zoobab2: Yeah that's the way of the world now. Foxconn (no relation) makes a huge proportion of consumer electronics in the world these days. I used to source tents: the contract mfr I settled on that worked the best also was the main mfr for 8/10 of the biggest competing brands in the business, and managed to keep them separate. Same deal in optics-- one Japanese company makes 80% of the brands in the market.

If you're good, when you start a brand you begin with a clear idea of what you want, get experts (engineers, designers, riders, wrenches) to shape the designs, and then look for the best factory to make it to your specs. Looks like that's what DVO did.
  • 1 0
 @Fribble:

Lhlins mtb suspension parts are made by x-fusion.
The threads of the crown and stanchions fit euaxh others fork. Thus if your bore up the hole on the bottom of the casting you can Mount öhlins innerts in the x-fusion metric, trace and vengeance
  • 24 21
 What's with the motorbike in Sedona.. absolutely no motor vehicles allowed on singletrack there..I guess the eebs can hangout with the pink jeep hahoos..and yes they do tear shit up more so than a mtb..more moto than bicycle.
  • 3 1
 I love my Onyx. A simple improvement would be more tire clearance when running the bolt-on fender. 2.6" tire and there is about 1/4 of clearance. On the plus side, the fender was tough enough to lock-up a wheel when you hit the peanut butter mud in the middle of the trail without breaking.
  • 2 0
 It looks like the new one mounts around below the seals, instead of on the back of the arch (which is weird). So possibly more clearance, but it doesn't look as strong. Maybe there are also a couple of mounts on the arch.
  • 3 0
 My trail casing tires buzz the DVO bolt on fender when I hit faces of a jump or land heavily, it is very weird. DH casing tires though barely squirm or buzz the fender
  • 10 7
 It seems like an arms race, 38mm is now the fork for going big, but we've been going big on 32mm, 34mm, 35mm, and 36mm for years.

I think this ^ is nonsense, but if bigger sells that by all means!
  • 13 11
 Forks haven’t been stiff enough for years and they’re still not stiff enough around the crown / steerer joint.
  • 25 1
 @thenotoriousmic: you know how to make that crown/steerer connection stiffer? By adding another crown ontop. Sounds crazy, right?
  • 5 0
 @thenotoriousmic: Look at what EXT is doing at that junction.
  • 6 2
 @thenotoriousmic: yes and no, I think it depends entirely on the rider weight. A great example of this is Isabeau Courdurier running Zebs despite only weighing 52kg/113lb. I guarantee that a Lyrik would be stiff enough for someone that weight, regardless of how hard they’re charging, which Isabeau certainly is given her EWS race results. On the opposite end of the spectrum though someone like a prime 2006 Nathan Rennie would definitely feel the difference between the Lyrik and the Zeb. It’s a more nuanced debate than simply bigger is stiffer and therefore better, etc. The truth is probably that a triple crown 35mm fork will probably be just as stiff as a single crown 38mm fork, at least as far as the vast majority of consumers are concerned anyway. Then again I’ve never seen any tests that can prove that so I may be talking utter BS
  • 7 0
 Totem was 40mm and that was like 2007 or so.
  • 4 0
 @Snowytrail: It was also as heavy as a DC fork. I was shocked when I lifted one that was being serviced at the LBS.
  • 4 0
 @samdaman1: a 35mm triple crown boxer is a lot stiffer than a Zeb especially for and aft and you’re right if you’re a tiny 5ft 2 enduro racer a pike would probably be fine.
  • 5 1
 In the state of the sport pinkbike poll, there was only 1 rider who responded that he rode a Zeb, everyone else was on a 36. I'd love to have the option for 160-180 on a 36 still.
  • 2 0
 @bearstearns: this! As someone who is on the lighter end of the spectrum (65kg in downhill kit), it frustrates me that I’d need to buy an unnecessarily stiff and heavy fork if I wanted a 170mm fork from any of the big players, although weight is not really something I care too much about in all honesty, but for someone who cares about it this is still a rather odd choice from Fox and Rockshox
  • 3 1
 I've been really impressed with DVO. I had the previous version of this fork and loved it. The OT feature is killer, quite noticeable changes to suppleness in the beginning of the stroke. No doubt this new version will be even better!
  • 13 8
 They should have made it look better
  • 4 3
 I like the silhouette but the green looks terrible IMO. Seems like good internals prevouisly tho.
  • 14 6
 Still looks way better than the hideous Fox orange stuff.
  • 4 0
 @Roost66: I'm sure it will be offered in the standard black and blue colors too.
  • 2 1
 @NWBasser: It's the accents that really throws it off for me.
  • 2 0
 @Roost66: Yeah, I can see that.
  • 3 2
 astonmtb.com/the-dvo-saga

Awful lot of downvotes from people who don’t own one. I had the best luck till 2020 with dvo. Now this story describes it perfectly. Every single dvo fork I’ve felt after takes a lot of break away force
  • 2 0
 Looks like he had a run of bad luck and for whatever reason the DVO was his breaking point, there is no writeup of the brand new Fox or Öhlins that failed on him.
There are definitely quality issues that need work (self winding OTT being the most relevant), but as for breakaway stiffness I would guess that is people not setting up the OTT properly (counting "clicks" instead of rotations/adjusting with air in the system) or not servicing their lowers frequently enough which has a significant effect on these forks.
  • 1 2
 @Turpsicle: didn’t read it huh lol
  • 1 1
 @Turpsicle: and yes he also had the same sticking problems with ohlins. Review is on insta. I recently went to the BC bike show where a vendor had a EXT, formula, cane creek and dvo. Literaly all of them were brand new and sticky!! My zeb breaks away an LOT easier.
  • 3 1
 @freeridejerk888: I did, what a strange assumption.

I already said DVO is far from perfect, the OTT setup is a real headache if you are used to the normal way of setting/measuring sag and must be done individually for each rider. But after I pushed through the learning curve I am now completely on board with the system. My setup now almost sags under the weight of the bike, which sounds bonkers but is bliss to ride.
As for stickiness from new, it seems many manufacturers are leaning towards tighter bushing tolerances and riding a line where sometimes they will go too far or need to be broken in before they feel right. Is that a good thing? maybe, maybe not.
  • 2 0
 Is this another different mudguard fitting standard? can we all please just defualt to a standard fitting so all bolt on mudguards fit across all brands of fork, pretty please with a cherry on top.
  • 3 0
 That’s a good looking fork. I bought a jadex coil last year. Customer service was awesome. Shock feels great. I would definitely consider DVO if I needed a new fork.
  • 3 0
 Great fork. On to season 5 with my Onyx. Leaves everything else for dead.

Shame about this new colour though... gloss grey? Gross!
  • 5 0
 No more Emerald Frown
  • 3 1
 I mean I still have one
  • 2 0
 @bradsbikesandco: .. I got one on my Jedi
  • 9 5
 Stop putting 15mm axles on 180mm forks!
  • 12 0
 The move away from 20mm axles is still insane to me. There are literally no benefits on anything over 160mm of having a slightly smaller axle, especially given that weight is a lot less of a priority these days just in general.
  • 4 0
 @samdaman1: they give us bigger stanchions because they're stiffer, and smaller axles because they're just as stiff but lighter...
  • 2 0
 @Tambo: how much lighter though? Surely it’s negligible for all but weight weenies and XC racers?
  • 6 0
 @samdaman1: I think you're missing my point. On the one hand they're saying bigger is stiffer, on the other hand they're saying smaller is just as stiff...both can't be true. And I agree; the weight difference between 15 and 20mm setups is probably negligible for the vast majority of us.
  • 2 0
 I completely agree as I still run 20mm on my 2 biggest bikes, but if hub manufacturers took advantage of 15mm vs 20mm hubs they could reduce friction. Larger bearings rolling around a smaller axle would make a faster rolling hub due to decreased bearing speeds/rotation/movement per wheel rotation. I don't think most manufacturers are taking advantage though, because any hub that is convertible to 20mm has obviously thrown this out the window.
  • 2 0
 This applies to the whole industry. Why they ever adopted the 15 mm standard is hard to justify. I think DVO is stuck with it because most hubs only take a 15 mm.
  • 2 0
 Love DVO the guys that work there and Bryson himself are awesome if anything was wrong they were quick to fix could t be more happier with their products
  • 2 0
 If the broken part is in stock. The Onyx SC upper assembly is out of stock for months now.
  • 3 0
 Haven't MRP had air bleeders for years?
  • 6 7
 during that festival, the Transition tent was a tent where everyone went when there were no more bikes to take from other tents Big Grin Does Transition suck that much? I really don't know
  • 7 2
 Naw most people already own a Transition.
  • 1 0
 @birdsandtrees: Nobody wants to be seen on a Bud Light bike bro..
  • 4 2
 So disappointed we're not seeing 37.99mm tubes!
  • 3 0
 I'm holding out for 40 mm, that way we can ride a big heavy dual crown without the dual crown.
  • 8 7
 f### Dvo stuff. Already the 2 broken jadeX in 2 years. warranty in the EU is s### too (thanks Cosmic sports for nothing)
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 In the UK I have found the complete opposite, Windwave the distributor / service centre provide the best service I have ever had.

I had one small issue with a Jade X coil and it was turned around in 48 hours.

I have had two pairs of Onyx forks, one air shock and one coil and only have had a very small leak from the bladder which was from brand new.

Pricing in the UK is much more competitive than the bigger brands, some amazing deals going around on the Onyx forks at the moment.

These new 38 forks look stunning, would love to try a pair when they become available.
  • 2 0
 I have experienced the same: twice the DVO Jade X was defective, the second time I waited almost three months because Cosmic Sport could not find spare parts. In the end, they have exchanged it for a new one - which I then sold as soon as possible. May be that the service in the U.S. is good, in Germany that's no fun ...
  • 2 0
 Why is 38 the chosen number? Why not 39? Or maybe 40 like the old Totems?
  • 5 0
 It’s only a matter of time before someone does this surely, I mean BOS are already using 42mm stanchions on their upside down Obsys downhill fork
  • 2 1
 Why did 38mm single crown take off instead of 35mm triple clamp? Makes me sad.
  • 3 2
 So i guess SR Suntour came out with a new chassis casting about two years late and is letting DVO use it?
  • 4 1
 We are a family-owned suspension company with our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 1 0
 Iasked DVO direcctly are they releasing a 38mm fork before buying the previous ONYX............ They said no..........
  • 1 0
 I am so excited to get my grimey mitts on one of these.
  • 5 3
 Dont tell FOX
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flag bradsbikesandco (Mar 7, 2023 at 13:09) (Below Threshold)
 fax, man. They just bought a bunch of 38s and put green decals on them. Same fork not gonna lie.
  • 7 1
 @bradsbikesandco: dvo forks are sooooo different from fox
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flag bradsbikesandco (Mar 7, 2023 at 13:27) (Below Threshold)
 @olafthemoose: Imean like do you see the outside besides the decals. basically a grip 2 but in green
  • 2 1
 @bradsbikesandco: are you drunk? The castings are way different (arch and dropout clamp), as is the crown.
  • 2 10
flag bradsbikesandco (Mar 7, 2023 at 15:10) (Below Threshold)
 @mammal: the crown is a very small difference. All the others don’t affect cosmetics or performance. Air bleeders? Seems like the same fork to me. Look at the damper dials, looks like fox. I have no problem with dvo. I have bikes with it but I’m just pointing out that it looks like a fox fork.
  • 8 1
 @bradsbikesandco: First you literally say it's a rebranded Fox fork, and then you agree there are differences (you must be drunk). Air bleeders have been on Onyx forks for years (I own one), and the damper dials are the same as the last version of the Onyx (2021 model year, not with 38mm stanchions). Cosmetic or not, different crowns and castings signify that the forks are not the same.

DVO forks are manufactured by Suntour, if you want to start calling out copy cats.
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flag bradsbikesandco (Mar 7, 2023 at 15:27) (Below Threshold)
 @mammal: man your really a die hard dvo fan. Where’s my bleeder on my 2021 onyx? I have one. Cough cough can’t be drunk at 19 in my case. Don’t see the dials are the same but ok.
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 @bradsbikesandco:
Here's an article from 2020, that shows the bleeder valves on the Onyx:
enduro-mtb.com/en/dvo-onyx-sc-d1-2021-review

Here's the product page for the Onyx (still the 36mm stanchion model), with the same damper knob as the 38mm version. It was probably the 2022 model that switched to that damper, as they also switched the graphics. Check out the pictures attached to the "Highlights in the box" section:
dvosuspension.com/product/onyx-sc-d1

I wouldn't say I'm a die-hard, but I've owned two forks and two shocks now, and they've served me very well. Just trying to point out the obvious fact that these forks have nothing to do with Fox (much more to do with Suntour).
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 @mammal: I guess I got enlightened. I still think the damper controls look like a green grip 2. thanks
  • 3 1
 @bradsbikesandco: there's only so many ways to design a dial, what do you expect?
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flag bradsbikesandco (Mar 7, 2023 at 22:31) (Below Threshold)
 @Muckal: I expect diffrent ways I mean all other brands are really diffrent. This is just the same dial in green.
  • 4 0
 @bradsbikesandco: they are not. Yes, they are round and have structures for grip, but they are different.
  • 3 0
 @mammal: You are incorrect. We are a family-owned suspension company with our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 3 0
 @mammal: For your information, we have our own R&D, design, testing, materials sourcing and manufacturing. DVO products have no connection with Suntour other than the physical location of the factory.
  • 3 1
 @DVOSuspension: Family owned awesome. Thanks for what you do. not the goat imo but you make a very competitive product that should be feared In the suspension industry.
  • 5 0
 @DVOSuspension: thanks for the reply. I am intimately familiar with many of your products, less so with Suntour. I am aware that R&D, testing, and design of many of the components you use are done in-house.

However, it's hard to argue that the Topaz and Tri-Air shocks don't share design elements and some components from Suntour production.
  • 1 0
 @bradsbikesandco: I’ve worked on both. Those forks are about as far apart as it gets
  • 1 0
 @DVOSuspension: that and dust wipers
  • 1 0
 I don’t get it. What makes it a floating axle
  • 35 0
 Floats when you put it in water
  • 2 0
 @sudochuckwalla: Can briefly be used as a boat.
  • 1 0
 So is that a new color for the Transition?
  • 1 0
 why did Giant pull their OEM spec? does Ibis still spec their forks?
  • 1 0
 Supply and quality problems while ramping up production, same as CC had being OEM of Speci a few years back probably
  • 1 0
 Just want a 40mm single crown please
  • 1 1
 Can you put a Smashpot in it yet?
  • 8 11
 Please please please make sure theese don’t come so sticky they don’t move under 200lbs person. The QC on the current stuff is AWFUL. 3 rebuilds and it won’t move under my weight.
  • 1 1
 The best feature is it's not that god ugly green
  • 1 1
 Fox Lawyers - Have entered the chat.
  • 2 2
 That’s beautiful
  • 1 3
 27” fork?
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