First Ride: 2021 Norco Shore - Freeride's Alive

Oct 12, 2020 at 23:14
by Mike Kazimer  


The Shore disappeared from Norco's lineup a decade ago, but it's returned for 2021, back for another round of freeride glory. This new version has 27.5” wheels, an aluminum frame, and 180mm of travel. It's designed specifically for use with a coil-sprung shock, and the high pivot suspension design uses an idler pulley to allow the bike to have a more rearward axle path while minimizing pedal kickback.

Just like the original, Norco say the new Shore is for “rides in rowdy terrain where good times and progression are the goal, and stopwatches or finish lines are not even part of the conversation.” That statement rings true when you skim the Shore's stats – it has a 63-degree head tube angle, 480mm reach for a size large, and a total weight of 38 pounds for the A1 model.
Norco Shore Details

• Wheelsize: 27.5"
• Aluminum frame
• Travel: 180mm (r) / 180mm (f)
• 63° head angle
• 445mm chainstays (size L)
• Weight: 38 lb / 17.2 kg (size L Shore 1)
• Price range: $3,699 - $5,199 USD
• Available January 2021
norco.com


There's also a park version that has 190mm of travel with a 200mm dual crown fork for riders that don't have any plans of pedaling uphill.


2021 Norco Shore

Frame Details

There isn't any carbon fiber to be seen on the Shore - the frame is an all-aluminum affair, and all the parts that hang off it were selected with with durability in mind.

There's internal cable routing, with the derailleur and brake lines running through the top tube. Bolts for mounting a tube or tool holder are found on the underside of that same tube, and there's room for a water bottle inside the front triangle. There's also a threaded bottom bracket, ISCG 05 mounts for running a bash guard or chain guide, and clearance for up to a 2.6” tire.

Short seat tube lengths make it possible to run longer travel dropper posts – the size large I've been riding comes with a 200mm TransX +RAD post. If that's too much drop for you, it only takes a few minutes to reduce it, without the use of any tools.

Routing the chain over the idler wheel does mean that more links are required than on a non-idler bike, but Norco says that one standard 126 link chain is long enough for all frame sizes.

2021 Norco Shore
2021 Norco Shore


2021 Norco Shore

Geometry

The Shore was built for the descents, and that's reflected by the slack 63-degree head angle. The size large has a 480mm reach and 445mm chainstays. Chainstay length varies by size, starting at 435mm for the small and increasing in 5mm increments, topping out at 450mm for the extra-large.

The head angle might look like it was lifted from a DH bike, but Norco didn't forget that this was a freeride machine, and which means pedaling uphill is occasionally required. To help with those uphill grinds, they gave it a nice and steep 77.7-degree seat tube angle. The seat tube angle actually gets steeper on the larger sizes, a nice touch that helps keep taller riders from ending up too far over the rear axle while climbing.



2021 Norco Shore


Suspension Design

The new Shore uses a Horst Link suspension design, but Norco also went with a high main pivot placement and an idler pulley. Without an idler, the chain growth created by the high pivot position would cause excessive pedal kickback, but with the idler in place the amount of kickback is greatly reduced.

The bike is designed specifically to be used with a coil shock, with a progressive leverage curve. While you could technically fit an air shock, Norco says that the spring and damper won't allow the suspension to react the way it's designed to. Even with a coil shock, the pedaling efficiency is impressive, and there's a generous amount of mid-stroke support to keep the bike from going to deep into its travel when plowing through rough terrain.

2021 Norco Shore
Norco Shore A1

Build Kits

The Shore A1 sits at the top of the lineup and retails for $5,199 USD. Build highlights include a 180mm Fox 38 Factory fork, Factory DHX2 coil shock, SRAM GX Eagle 12-speed drivetrain, and SRAM's Code RSC brakes. The wheels are e*thirteen LG1 aluminum rims laced to DT Swiss 350 hubs, and those get a Maxxis Assegai / DHR II MaxxGrip Double Down tire combo. Other nice bits are a Deity aluminum bar and DMR Deathgrip lock-on grips.

2021 Norco Shore
Norco Shore A2
2021 Norco Shore
Norco Shore A1 Park

The Shore A2 is priced at $3,699 USD, and is spec'd with a 180mm RockShox Zeb R fork, Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil shock, Shimano Deore 12-speed drivetrain and 4-piston MT250 brakes. Deore hubs are laced to e*thirteen LG1 rims, with a Maxxis Assegai / DHR II MaxxGrip Double Down tire combo.

The $3,999 Shore A1 Park receives a 200mm RockShox Boxxer Select RC, and a Super Deluxe Ultimate coil shock with a slightly longer stroke to deliver 190mm of travel. SRAM's Code R brakes help slow things down, and there's a GX1 7-speed drivetrain. Once again, tires are a Maxxis Assegai up front, and a DHR II MaxxGrip in the back, both MaxxGrip / Double Down.


2021 Norco Shore
Matt Macduff sending it on the Shore. Dave Smith photo.

Ride Impressions

I've been spending time on the Shore A1 as part of our fall Field Test, so I'm going to hold off on spilling all of the beans for now, but I can go over a few initial impressions.

The Fox DHX2 shock doesn't have a climb switch on it, and that's because there's no need for one. The lack of unwanted suspension movement is impressive, especially considering there's 180mm of travel on tap. The overall weight isn't as impressive, and getting this aluminum beast to the top of a hill does take a decent amount of effort. The climbing position is comfortable, though, so it's best to relax and settle in for the grind.

On the descents, this is one solid, downhill-hungry machine. I'd sort of expected an ultra-plush ride that totally erased even the smallest bump, but that's not exactly the case here. Even with 30% sag the suspension feels very supportive, which comes in handy during bigger drops, or for pumping through rough terrain. It might not have been designed with stopwatches in mind, but the Shore definitely has a need for speed, and feels best on really steep trails where there's room to let it run.

Stay tuned for a more detailed review and comparisons when the Field Test airs later this year.








502 Comments

  • 278 16
 “All of the parts were selected with durability in mind” why did they put e thirteen rims on it then!!? They’re literally made out of warm butter.
  • 67 7
 Would have gone for cheese, but butter is probably closer to the truth.
  • 59 5
 I had been hoping that all the hatred for E.13 rims was unfounded...especially since I had a set of e.13 wheels...but I put 3 flat spots on them which I’ve never done to another wheel in 28 years of riding!!! Because of this I’ll avoid e.13 parts like I do crankbrothers!
  • 27 8
 @unrooted: Are you saying that you have ran the same tire pressure for 28 years and have caused many rim strikes but only with E.13 you have found a issue with how the rim handles getting slammed into an object?
  • 8 30
flag easyslorider (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:38) (Below Threshold)
 And 12spd drivetrain.
  • 6 0
 Yep- an E13 as a rear rim choice did not work for me on my 2019 bike. Sure I could have not ridden like a hack to avoid impacts better but in my few decades of riding that rim perhaps had the shortest life span I can recall with huge flat spots and a bunch of punctures in the tire (thought it was the tires...DHR's but flats stopped occurring once I got it on the Flow I replaced it with). Maybe bad luck, maybe not, but when competing against other rims, like the Stans Flow, with a proven track record it would be hard for me to choose to try that again. Worked fine as a front rim...but not sure that is saying much.
  • 54 21
 I strongly recommend putting air in your tires and these issues tend to go away
  • 10 1
 Can confirm. 29” ones that came on my Aurum HSP were wet spaghetti by the end of the second run on them.
  • 23 1
 You guys are lucky...my e13 hubs internals shredded themselves multiple times (multiple replacements) before I had a chance to destroy the rims.
  • 11 0
 @kleinblake: 32PSI lasted 4 weeks before the rim was so bent, it wouldn't hold a tire.
  • 24 3
 Dunno about this. I think they got an unwarranted bad rap from the sheer amount their low end rims on YT spec. Single ply tires + low end alloy rim on bikes taken to the bike park at sup-30psi pressures is a recipe for problems with any mfg. Look at rim weights vs alloy and you are not going to see big durability differences between mfgs. Ive been on stans, dt and e*13 at this point and have not seen differences in dent resistance.
  • 22 1
 @unrooted: funny. Crank Brothers newest hoops are absolutely stellar, FYI.
  • 4 0
 @kleinblake: I actually run 30 psi rear with a cushcore with ongoing mockery from those I ride with about how overkill my setup is but I like a bit of a BMX responsiveness with the trail and cushcores to add that corner stability... so yes that may have been a variable without more info but now that you have it I believe it was not. Rim just didn't hold up (n of 1... and sure I hit some rocks and whatnots but no more than I have with my Flows over the years)
  • 2 0
 Never tried them, are they at least any better than WTB rims?
  • 15 1
 These rims came stock on my last two bikes, there is only one left that i'd consider usable. If you push your tire too hard to check the pressure you risk denting the rim.
  • 11 3
 I’ve just smashed a front e thirteen rim into 2 pieces when casing some road gap. It had 25 psi with Minion DHF 2.5 on it so you can’t say the air pressure was too low. My rear rim is DT EX511, survived it like a champ and didn’t even get a tiny dent. I’ve crashed, broke my collarbone and I will never buy e thirteen rim again. I’ve ordered another DT EX511 for the front.
  • 5 0
 Haha so true. Did a rough ride the other day and part way through had tire rubbing the frame and 15 spokes rattling around. Spent half hour on the side of the trail re-tightening all the nipples. This is the replacement wheel for the first one where the 2 week old hub exploded while coasting downhill and locked up my drivetrain.
  • 5 11
flag Loche (Oct 14, 2020 at 10:13) (Below Threshold)
 Is anyone else not worried about the chain wrap? If those are aluminum chainrings, I don’t think they would last long...
  • 2 0
 I had an issue with eThirteen carbon cranks but the TRS-r carbon rims that came on my Jeffsy have been stellar.
  • 2 0
 @rickybobby18: were they the novatec hubs? If so the catches for the pawls on my Novatec that came with my E13's all sheered and the freehub spun free. Brutal design and materials.
  • 2 2
 hahaha, I actually laughed out loud, best comment ever.
  • 2 2
 had mine for one enduro race, looking for a replacement now.....
  • 4 0
 I've had those LG1 rims for along while now with no issues. I had a bad e13 rim experience about a year and a half ago (warranty took care of me) but the more recent ones I got were totally fine. Lasting longer than my last WTB and my buddy's DT1900!
  • 4 0
 @ADHDMI: In my experience yes! I have the LG1 rims and they have lasted a season so far. My WTB crapped out after 6 months...
  • 119 6
 Hey guys - In late 2019 we've updated extrusion profiles and rim specs. Dent resistance of current rims are inline or better than other mfgs rim using similar alloys and of similar weights. If anyone feels like they have had durability issues with our rims or other products, we urge you to reach out to us on the support page of our website and we will do our best to get you taken care of.
  • 8 0
 Been flogging my alloy LG1 EN Plus rims for quite a while now with zero issues. Like any alloy rim, use a digi gauge, know your tire pressure requirements and understand that running too low of pressure means your alloy rims are consumables, regardless of the brand.
  • 8 0
 @ethirteen-components: Would a company like YT still be using older versions of the rim? Because all summer I have seen many ruined rims. (not just on YT, but that's the easiest for me to pick on)
  • 6 20
flag unrooted (Oct 14, 2020 at 11:21) (Below Threshold)
 @ethirteen-components: what’s the chance that you would warranty a wheel because of a flat spot?

Also: what lawyer wrote this for you????

“ Dent resistance of current rims are inline or better than other mfgs rim using similar alloys and of similar weights.”
  • 2 0
 I have a set of carbon E13 rims. So far the rims have been but the rear hub fell apart after less than a year
  • 2 0
 @bookem13: @ethirteen-components Same question with a 2020 Norco.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: I don’t care how good a product is if the company won’t back the product.
  • 1 0
 @snl1200: This exactly. I've had no issues with the e13 rim but shredded the novatec pawls and catches 3 weeks out of warranty.
  • 11 0
 @ethirteen-components: I can confirm - you guys have the BEST custy service out there.
  • 1 0
 @Marky771: So you had at least one e13 rim plus "some more recently" in about one year and a half ? somethings not right there. . . .
  • 1 0
 @ethirteen-components: I saw one rear wheel fold at the valve hole, musst say it lastet for the rest of the race....could this be warrantied ? I swear the guy hit all his lines perfectly and a mistake by the rider can be excluded. Just asking for a friend
  • 1 0
 @betobi: Yup.....2 different bikes. Bad rim was a year an a half ago on an older bike. New rim was on a bike I've been riding hard for about 7 months now..
  • 3 0
 @bookem13: If e13 just improved rims at the end of 2019 those probably won’t have made it onto bikes until now (2021 bikes). As I understand it (and have experienced at bike shops) most 2020 bikes ship late 2019 or early 2020 so they probably would have been built a decent chunk earlier than that.

On another note I’ve also been happy with my e13 rims. No major issue in a hard summer of riding!
  • 1 0
 @ethirteen-components: what alloy are you using in your rims now?
  • 4 1
 @ethirteen-components: respect @ethirteen-components for responding and inviting action. Thank you!
  • 3 0
 @DubC: My experience was on a Transition Patrol, I destroyed four E13 rims in one year, including pulling the spoke through the rim and separating another rim at the seam. Went to Stans flows and especially with the latest flows, way better than my E13 experience. Still have dented them and destroyed one entirely, but much more resistant to dents/damage in general.
  • 10 0
 @privateer-wheels: ASTM A-36 structural steel
  • 3 0
 @TannerValhouli: Built for skydiving with your bicycle, without a parachute!
  • 3 1
 @ethirteen-components: I ride 2020 Norco Sight A1 which originally came with your LG1 EN rims. so according to your comment my rims supposed to be improved/reinforced. And still I smashed them both while riding with 25-30 psi. You should stick to your tires. They are actually awesome! I’ve had DT Swiss rims on my 2 previous bike and never had any issues with them. I’m now back on DT Swiss and will never look back.
  • 5 0
 my e13 wheels looked like a stop sign in about 3 months of park/ local riding.. also seen multiple hub warranties at my shop due to flange that spokes go into separating from the hub body.. squeak squeak. not awe inspiring.. looks good on a spec sheet and nothing else
  • 2 0
 @TannerValhouli: #steelisreal
  • 7 0
 @ethirteen-components: When my first TRS rim folded within my first week of owning it, I reached out to e13 and was given a crash replacement (which after shipping from e13 came out to roughly MSRP from local shop).
That rim crumpled after less than two months. I was on a trip when it happed and bought the only replacement I could find in a pinch - another e13 TRS. Surprise, that one lasted three months. 3 total rim failures in 1.5 riding seasons, as a weekend warrior. Maybe they were all the old extrusions but at this point I wouldnt risk the lost riding time, cost and energy even if e13 replacements were free. Now happily rolling on DTs.
  • 2 0
 Gotta agree. Just got my 2020 YT Capra Pro in July and already the rear wheel is pretty much done for (no big cases and never super low air pressure). Always used to running Stans Flows and they have taken an absolute beating on my DH bike and still like new. Cant say I'd ever go with E13 wheels again...
  • 5 0
 @ADHDMI: everything is better than wtb rims. Everything
  • 2 0
 @beast-from-the-east: I agree with you on the reliability of DTs. I've had E1900 rims and I only broke one after a massive case. The front one I have never had to true. Definitely going back to those ones after my raceface turbine dies (which it may do quite soon)
  • 3 0
 @skisean140: Same, DT all the way from now on.
  • 2 0
 Can't speak to their alloy rims, but I splurged for a bike that came with e13 carbon wheels and they've been perfect for two full seasons.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: what, good wheels from Crank Brothers?!
  • 3 0
 @SoddenDeath: Yep!

Crank Brothers Synthesis Carbon hoops are really fine hoops. On the pricier side, but really good.

Crank Brothers Synthesis Alloy hoops are also very well done hoops, made from good alloy using nice profiles. We have built quite a few now and have gotten really positive feedback so far.

They have done away with all the proprietary faff in the latest wheels - using just j-bend spokes from Sapim - and have very good engineers standing behind them. CB rims, paired with hubs from I9.

Definitely worth a look.
  • 5 0
 I worked in a shop in whistler for a couple of seasons, we had lg1+ stuff on the rental bikes. Over the course of one season, we warrantied over a dozen-plus carbon wheelsets, endless amounts of destroyed hubs, and saw more than a few snapped cranks. I reckon e13 is the worst quality stuff going on in the market currently.
  • 2 0
 @ethirteen-components: correction - fill out the support form on your website and the one on Silverfish's website in the UK and you'll receive no response whatsoever.

That's what happened when I got in touch about your 12 speed shifters internals upgrade for SRAM 11 speed shifters lasting for two rides. It did solve the problem though- now I know not to buy any E13 products so the failures on my bike have stopped.
  • 2 0
 @unrooted: I bought one crank brothers product about 10yrs ago, once burnt twice shy
  • 3 0
 If e13 rims are made of warm butter then their cassettes are made of hot butter. Or cheese.
  • 1 0
 LG1’s came stock on my 2020 sight. I’m old and slow and I never had a ride that I came back from without loose spokes and an untrue/flat spot wheel. Now have a Chromag Phase rim on the rear ????
  • 1 0
 @Bedede: 10 years? Much more recently, Crank Brothers have under gone a pretty substantial internal overhaul. They are literally a different company (same name, but change over on staffing) than the last time you bought a product.

CB have always had really novel products, but in the past they were not all well executed. They have really increased their engineering tallent pool in there. They have some really bright people and they are making solid products.

Not sure how true it is, but someone had told me they sued to have a lot of industrial designers, and now they have actual engineers. On the wheels side, they have two very well respected engineers with history of making very good rims. They are hiring the right people, and in doing so, the products are great.
  • 4 1
 All I've taken away from this thread is that people ride their shit super hard and complain when it breaks.
I can assure you all after running just about every alloy rim and tire combo+ every insert I could find, not one setup has resulted in an invincible setup. Every single one has failed me (dt swiss freeride rims, stans, ibis, wtb).

I think people just expect way to much for how hard they ride -_-
  • 1 2
 @butters1996: that’s what I thought until I tried e.13 rims.
  • 2 0
 @butters1996: No rim will last forever if you ride hard enough. I might suggest having a look at Tairin rims though, if you want alloy and are looking for heavy duty dent/crack resistance. They have extra thick hookless bead walls, very similar to a carbon hoop. so far I have been impressed with them.
  • 2 0
 @privateer-wheels: Can vouch for Tairin, have been abusing one of their rims for a while now with no major issues.
  • 1 0
 @dangerousdave: sup Dave, hear your a Dad now, congratulations! Those who personally know you... you’re the real deal! Still shredding insane line that mear mortals like me cant even register in our heads. See ya out there bro
  • 76 0
 Always thought the 08 shore with the green totems and roco was the sickest thing back in the day. Solid comeback!
  • 72 2
 It's beautiful. Well done.
  • 21 62
flag mayha49 (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:21) (Below Threshold)
 I agree that it's a nice looking rig, however, if you look at how refined Knolly is with their bikes this looks quite amatuer. The welds in particular are in a different league.
  • 37 2
 @mayha49: the welds look fine.
  • 11 30
flag bcbikeman (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:32) (Below Threshold)
 @mayha49: I agree. Norco has so much going for it, but for some reason the welding has always been inconsistent. I remember back in the day when I ordered a Norco Team DH. When it arrived at the LBS I ended up cancelling the order because the welds looked like bird sh*t. C'mon Norco, please get that sorted.
  • 29 0
 @mayha49: in all seriousness, by what criteria do you evaluate negatively the welds here?
  • 23 0
 @mayha49: Are you paid by Knolly? Just be honest so we can understand where this comment is coming from.
Cheers.
  • 25 0
 @Arierep: when critiquing a bike this good its always a smart move to choose something subjective and esoteric like welds. People are less likely call BS that way. lol
  • 5 2
 @dkidd: those welds are absolutely fine, much better than what you get on Giants. Only "weird" thing is that some of that look hotter (less defined stack of dimes) than others, like they were done by different welder, which is very likely.
  • 3 6
 Different league y'all
  • 106 2
 @TheBearDen: We don't pay Mayha anything. He loves us and we love him.
  • 6 0
 @dkidd: yeah, I see this sort of comment being thrown around frequently, and it always amazes me people's supposed capacity to judge welds by a picture in the absence of blatant defects like pores or something
  • 32 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: you lurking like a shark. lol
  • 8 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I don’t know a lot about weld quality, but when my friend asked me what bike he should get I recommended Banshee or Knolly...he ordered a Warden last week! I’m stoked for him, I personally have yet to decide what my next bike will be...but most likely a Banshee Titan...unless you decide to make a 150-ish rear travel 29er. . . I’m 6’5 so I feel like 29 wheels fit me better.
  • 9 9
 @mayha49: Perhaps Knolly has to have the best welds because their geometry is so damn awkward looking! I know people love their knolly bikes, and they are very nice machines, but that linkage they've got going on is not my cup of tea.
  • 8 4
 @Arierep: Many years ago I was a welder by trade working in a manufacturing plant in Alberta. I attended NAIT. The criteria I use to evaluate a weld, is proper and consistent penetration, the right amount of heat (too much heat causes undercutting and too little heat can create "cold lapping" - not good). Usually when all of these criteria are in place there will also be the benefit of an aesthetically pleasing weld. I am picky about this, but I do like to see nice clean looking welds on an aluminum frame. Bumpy inconsistent welds take away from the appearance of the frame and they make me nervous as to the quality and strength of the weld. And it really bothers me to see welding splatter on the frame, which was the case with the Norco Team DH that I refused to take delivery of way back when they made those bikes.
  • 7 1
 @deepstrut: @deepstrut: Just curious, have you spent much time on a Knolly? I have owned 4 of them and actually like the way they look. That's not why I choose to ride Knolly though. Their bikes simply perform better and are more fun to ride for me than any others I have tried.
  • 31 0
 @unrooted: Thanks! Super appreciated. Though lets, not throw any shade at the shore here though. I lusted so hard over the black and silver one with Super T's. It's rad to see Norco launch a bike like this! You message has been received Wink
  • 2 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: You guys are rad. I'm absolutely loving my fugitive! Can't wait to see what new stuff y'all are working on...
  • 1 0
 @mayha49: the welds definitely look fine
  • 3 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: it's things like this why you want to support a brand. Kepp it up.! Yeah, this Norco is a message to "have fun on a bike", don't be a weight weenie you p*ssy. I loved my Warden so much! Will own a Knolly for sure again in the future. I have always had Deliriums of greatness haha. Cheers
  • 2 0
 This just got me thinking... how badass would a knolly 155/170mm 29er/mullet with high-pivot/idler 4x4 suspension be? I would definitely buy that frame.
  • 1 0
 @Skooks: haven't spent any time on a knolly, like i said, I know people really like them, and I know that there is purpose behind the linkage to achieve different progression and leverage ratios than can be achieved with a 4 bar design.

My opinion was a simple tongue in cheek joke. And wasn't reflective of how they perform.
I'm just not a fan of the aesthetics of their design. (Just like a lot of Cannondale products like the lefty).
I guess when you have a design that doesn't fit the typical mold you'll always have people like me on the fence about it's looks ????
  • 2 0
 @deepstrut: Absolutely. Looks are pretty subjective, and not everyone is going to like the same bikes.
  • 2 0
 @Mondbiker: *different robot
  • 42 1
 Norco brought back fun. No need for fastest lap times . No need to race up to the top. Pull out your fun meter to rate this bike. 27.5 wheels for a playful ride. Sweet!
  • 18 0
 Yep, this and the new nukeproof mega means today is a good day for 27.5 wheels, even though the bike industry considers them to be out of fashion.
  • 1 0
 I wish there were even smaller wheels available for all the playfulness.
  • 1 0
 Having a 2020 TR Scout as my do it all ride, I rarely lust over other 27.5er's. But this looks extra fun.
  • 32 1
 Ugh, get ready to buy a fresh set of wheels with that bike. The Commencal owners facebook group is 90% complaint posts about breaking or dinging the E13 LG1s after they were specd on the pre-2021 models. The rear wheel on mine was beyond fixing after a year.

Otherwise, looks like a sick rig, digging the purple and pink colorways.
  • 5 1
 I destroyed a number of alum e13 wheels (came on my YTs). They ended up giving me a deal on the carbon rims and they’ve been perfect, worth the buy 110% even at retail prices. Been on them for w couple seasons with not maintenance.
  • 1 0
 I’m surprised commercial owners aren’t chewing up idler pulley wheels
  • 3 0
 My LG1s that came on my Sight VLT are dented really badly but still hold air.
  • 5 0
 The problem is only with the cheapo ones though, the higher priced e13 Rims are actually great
  • 2 0
 Yeah, the rear one on my 2020 Clash lasted half a season. Replaced it with a DT Swiss EX511 and I've destroyed 3 tires on it this season and the rim is still pristine. Such a difference.
  • 34 4
 21 year old me is drooling over this bike. 35 year old me wishes I was 21 still....
  • 13 0
 I'm 35 and pre-ordered this thing as soon as I saw it.
  • 15 0
 I'm 40 going on 15. Try riding like a kid, way more fun.
  • 13 0
 Oh geez. You make it sound like you're 35 going on 70. Im 31 and feel more capable and skilled then I ever was 10 years ago.
  • 10 0
 31 here and shredding 4 times a week, age isnt shit unless you let your self go at 21 like most do. Lay off the beers
  • 13 0
 @JSTootell: 59 going on 60 and having just as much fun as ever. Riding with people who are younger/faster/better than me is a great way to keep the skills fresh and the stoke high!
  • 7 0
 42 and I rode my bmx bike twice at the concrete skatepark this week, and hopefully will again tomorrow!
  • 2 0
 @Phazz470: Its more a different priorities and responsibilities thing. I had health insurance and no obligations at 21. I was in the hospital usually twice year with broken bones, and it took me 10 years to overcome the medical debt. Now I have no insurance, a full time job, I'm a full time student, and I have a wife and plans for children....also, mentally I do not have the confidence when I get on my bike less than 10 times a year to go send sketchy freeride drops and jumps. If my mind was ready, I would still probably send it...but i learned long ago the consequences can be really bad and life altering when you're not 100% committed.
  • 4 0
 Turned 40 3 weeks ago and still out an developing skills. Threw my first no footed can on my Sender, which was also the first no footed can I have done in well over a decade! Age is just a number, as long as you keep yourself fit and healthy and remember as you get older, warming up isnt an option, its a necessity, you can keep pushing yourself.
  • 3 0
 @constantly-broken: username checks out
  • 3 1
 @takeiteasyridehard: Do you think about all of that stuff before you drop in?
  • 6 0
 @rustyglaze5: don't you ever tell anyone to lay off the beers. We don't need that kind of negativity in the world right now.
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 @thegoodflow: does check out, fortunately none of my injuries have been from MTB, all been from the work place haha. Wife says I am safer while on a bike than I am doing the stupid shit I do with work. Biking, I trust my own abilities, workwise, I cant account for peoples evos thinking they can do things better than we are supposed to teach and end up injuring people by doing incorrect techniques and drills. In my line of work, getting inured from time to time is part of the job, but thank god for free medical treatment!
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 You don't even have to go big to send it, just have to start bigger than you are already doing. It's called "progression" for a reason.

If you get into a mental trap of "I can never do this", you are probably right. Some of us can progress faster than others.

I was stationed with a guy who became a good friend years ago that rode dirt bikes, lost all the toes in a motorcycle wreck after getting hit by a car, rode bulls, and was always banged up. Had a wife and kid too and was nearly ready for his military retirement. He died when the driver of the car he was in fell asleep at the wheel on a boring drive. I decided to live my life more like Ken after that. Take some risks, have some fun, because you might avoid all that and play it safe just to die in some mundane statistical way.
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 @Muchogusto: Definitely not. But I used to ride at a really high level...compared to many people I still do. I would hit almost all the local jumps without thinking twice...I would still smoke most people around here on our trails....but....freeride, to me, means burly big raw jumps...and that I am not comfortable with anymore. I just dont spend enough time on my bike...the risks aren't worth it to me, unless I am feeling really in tune with my bike...really when it becomes an extension of me and I dont think about it, then I will go freeride. Everyone here is struggling to empathize with my perspective. I still go fast and jump when I ride. I can still smoke some of my friends who race. But I am not interested in doing things I am not fully confident in. Those who disagree with that have some hard learning ahead. They will say the same thing eventually...
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 @Phazz470: 28-31 was definitely the peak of my skill as a rider. A lot of that had to do with how often I was able to ride, and many years prior pushing and exceeding the limit constantly.
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 You must be joking? At 33 I'm riding harder and gnarlier lines than ever. 21 year old me was a shit rider compared to 33 year old me. I would order a shore in a heart beat if I didn't already own a similar bike.
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 @ThunderChunk: That's great. Good for you. If I were in your shoes, I am sure that would be the case for me too.
But, I have different priorities than just riding now. I am not saying I am worse rider than when I was 21, because I am definitely much more skilled...but I dont have the spare time, lack of responsibilities, or recklessness that I had back then.
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 @takeiteasyridehard: you do realize that how much free time you have is directly opposite to how good of a guy you are, take me for example; 42 married to a working wife with no children, a shed full of bikes, a motorcycle, skateboards, tools I mostly use for building jumps in my yard...zero real responsibility....I’m walking trash compared to a solid guy like yourself. I wish I could figure out how to be a responsible adulting adult! Gotta go...take a bong rip and watch some tv.
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 @takeiteasyridehard: well sir, in my 33 years of living I have learned to take on the least amount of responsibilities possible. Fortunately I met a woman who feels the same and we got married. She's even more reckless than me. After a hard crash in the bike park she went and got a tattoo while she waited for me to finish riding...

Seriously though. You don't have to explain anything to anyone. As long as your happy on the path you choose is all that matters.
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 @ThunderChunk: Sounds like you got a pretty nice setup. I'm happy for you and your wife. I also married a crazy woman...she was told she'd never walk again after a shattered pelvis and hip from an ice climbing fall. She overcame that, shes quite stubborn when she sets her mind to something. Then she broke her back in 3 places mountain biking 2 weeks after our wedding (on the bike I gave her as a wedding gift). But shes riding again, we rock climb and other stuff. Needless to say, neither of us play quite like we used to...but we are happy doing what we do. I am glad you are too.
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 @unrooted: I am far from responsible...all I said is that I am trying to be more.
I dont know about your correlation either...just different paths...if you're happy, you're happy.
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 @ThunderChunk: the 33yr old me crashed an ATV at 50 miles per hour and two months later I was racing enduro. The 35yr old me would blitz the, current, 37yr old me from speed pov, as technically, I've got better(bigger jumps/drops, etc) but the speed is lower. The fact that I am thinking more about building the house, bringing a kid into life and seeing that even after two months, the damn ankle is still not recuperated doesn't help for sure and, while I do find much joy in going down the rill and riding over the mountains, that savage-ish part of me that was rentlessly looking for more speed, more rush, more adrenaline seems to be smaller and smaller. Maybe it is an excuse, maybe it us a state of mind, idk, but something really has changed and the speed got lower.
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 @eugenux: nothing wrong with that! Personally I think raising a kid is far more terrifying than blasting down double black tech at mach speed on my DH bike. Sounds like you're a much better rider than me AND raising a family. Badass
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 @ThunderChunk: for sure I am not!, also, 2 years ago I've crashed enough times to "be able" to break 2 full-face helmets. In retrospective, after the second one I started to take it a little slow and continued untill now. It also doesn't help that I sold the big bike and now I'm riding a 130-150mm bike.
  • 28 1
 If you buy one of these and you don’t buy the Miami Vice color, you’re nuts.
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 If it was the park version...
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 @DHhack: Lol that colorful version will handle park riding just fine
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 @SeanC1: for sure, I just love the Miami Vice retro colors Smile
  • 23 0
 "A dual crown fork for those who don't plan on pedalling uphill"................ I'm not sure the dual crown fork is the thing that limits this bike from being pedalled uphill. Stop blaming dual crowns for things they aren't responsible for!
  • 27 8
 Please release a edit with Tippie, Wade and all the OG freeride boys riding this bike.
  • 41 0
 Uh? It’s not a Rocky Mountain.
  • 4 0
 Wade rides for rocky mountain. Youd need some old school norco pros.
  • 7 0
 Tippie and his fam Rides for YT, dont think youll see him on this...
  • 43 1
 you mean Kinrade, Hoots, and Darren Butler? Maybe even a Boyko will come out to play.
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 @makripper: Jay Hoots and Shaums March and Ryan leech hopping around up in the trees with it.
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 Unfortunately none of them ride norco
  • 4 0
 @jj12jj: Ryan leech rides Norco, not sure about the rest
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 @jj12jj: I know. That wasn't the point.
  • 2 0
 @CircusMaximus: Slayer slayer
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 Say what you will but if it's supposed to be a jib friendly, snappy, shore-type build...then I think they nailed it.
  • 51 4
 you gonna have one hell of a jib on 180/180 bike, you better hit that gym hard dude.
  • 53 1
 I wouldn't really call it a jib friendly bike - it's more of a tank than a nimble, playful thing.
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flag bubbaburger911 (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:52) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: The term "jib" has evolved to mean any fun riding on a bike that is not primarily focused on pedaling, fitness, or raw speed
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 14, 2020 at 10:05) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: Well you're far from a freerider, so there's that.
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 Seriously though, this monstertruck is gonna be anything but "jib friendly".
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 14, 2020 at 11:27) (Below Threshold)
 @BenTheSwabian: Pinkbike, where trail riders tell freeriders what's "jib friendly".
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 @chriskneeland: well that was savage.
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 @BenTheSwabian: bruh...let's go back to the era when we were "Jibbing" things on our 45lb Dh bikes with dual crowns deep in the woods...this thing is a paperweight compared to what I used to ride daily.
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 @chriskneeland, I'm a mountain biker. That's it.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 14, 2020 at 12:17) (Below Threshold)
 @preach: Or anyone who regularly rides a DH bike. @mikekazimer Different folks. Different strokes.
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 @bubbaburger911: where???? As far as I’ve ever known jib means to do tire taps on features as you jump over them, just like when it first originated with snowboarding 30 years ago and they would tap their nose or tail on a feature when they jump over it.
  • 12 2
 @chriskneeland: the double down! watch out, everyone, nobody mess with this guy! lol
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 5:07) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Make it a triple because it's still the truth.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 5:17) (Below Threshold)
 @unrooted: You're forgetting mannies, cutties, coping slides, euro's, schleybles, whips, and scrubs. It's what those of us who don't ride wagon wheels in straight lines call mountain biking.
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 @chriskneeland: well since you’ve gone beyond the troll tipping point there’s no point in stopping now without looking like you gave up. I respect the persistence.
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 @chriskneeland: exactly, it’s not called jibbing. It’s cool to see someone strong enough emotionally to admit when they are wrong! Bravo!!!

I’d love to learn where to find coping on a mountain bike trail, it would be fun to take some of the skills I’ve learned in the skatepark to mountain bike trails!
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 @unrooted: If you don't know what a coping slide is on a tree or a roller then you're more Joey than I thought.

@cuban-b: I wish I was trolling.
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 @chriskneeland: I’d call that a tree slide...I guess I’m a dum dumb because I don’t call trees coping.

It’s is nice of you to say that you think about me! Most people these days only think about themselves! Thank you, you really made my day brighter, I hope you have a beautiful day as well, and I’ll be thinking about how great of a person you are because you’re obviously a good mountain biker!!! Sorry, I meant freerider.
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 @chriskneeland: ok man we get it. You’re a cool freerider and you were right all along. Now can you leave everyone to their party while we talk behind your back?
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 8:23) (Below Threshold)
 @unrooted: There's a 'tree slide' and then there's a coping slide, learn the difference. And you're welcome. Just helping to make you more self aware.
  • 9 1
 Hey @cuban-b do you think we should be concerned for @chriskneeland ‘s mental health? My guess is he is feeling very isolated during this pandemic and possibly a bit depressed, he’s probably having a hard time getting the attention he is used to for being such an elite rider...and turning to the internet to find connection, but unfortunately the internet just increases depression and a feeling of isolation. Do you think there is anything we can do for him?
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 8:29) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Hey man, just calling out someone who's unqualified trying to say what bike is and isn't jib friendly. I should have expected the Joey brigade to all fall in line. Talk away.
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 @chriskneeland: can you make a film showing the difference? I bet it’s too complicated for me to figure out on my own.
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 @chriskneeland: bless your heart. you keep trying.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 9:19) (Below Threshold)
 @unrooted: It'll be a comedy. Pinkbike's next series. Teaching Joeys how to not ride in straight lines. 10 participants. 5 PB commenters and 5 PB editors. Spoiler. None of them succeed.
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 @chriskneeland: sounds like you have a bunch of work ahead of you, I’m excited to see the outcome!
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 @unrooted: going full troll mode to prove a point about the definition of jibbing took a lot of effort, so dont expect much more. reaching these depths of insecurity was impressive enough on it's own lol
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 9:56) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: I'm not surprised when a couple of turds don't know what jibbing, or jib-friendly bikes are, but expected more from a PB editor. Guess pinkbike ain't what it used to be. Shame.
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 @chriskneeland: i'm lost... is this bike jib-friendly or not?
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 @chriskneeland: I hope you’re not calling me a turd, there was a lot of confusion when I was born, but the doctors were able to confirm that I’m not a turd.
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 @thegoodflow: Isn't that a freeride bike's intent? Are you new here?
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 @unrooted: Debatable.
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 @chriskneeland: ya, I'm new. Glad you're here to explain everything to us joeys
  • 2 6
flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 10:14) (Below Threshold)
 @thegoodflow: That's what I'm here for bro. Nothing's worse than Joey's.
  • 7 1
 @chriskneeland: LOL im actually embarrassed for you, but im torn because your mental diarrhea is hilarious. i'm a fan!
  • 6 0
 @chriskneeland: are you a freeride bike riding expert, and a poop expert? How does one go about becoming a poop expert? I’m guessing you’ve eaten a lot of shit since there seems to be so much constantly falling from your mouth...
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 10:24) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: You say that, but it has no meaning. If I gave a shit what some Joey's in PB's comment section thought, I wouldn't LIVE in pinkbike's comment section. Making fun of you turds is just a pastime. Thanks for making it easy.
  • 6 0
 @chriskneeland: yet here you are, living in the pinkbike comment section giving a shit what some Joeys thought
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 10:29) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Really don't care anything other than Kaz saying the bike isn't jib friendly. And that's ONLY because I expected more from him. But you turds, just entertainment.
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 @chriskneeland: when you finally man-up to go see a mental health therapist I’d recommend you share your trolling history with the therapist so they can find the most adequate facility to help you....or maybe you should just put your phone down and get back to your real job, I’m guessing the ice in the soda machine needs to be refilled.
  • 7 0
 @chriskneeland: why do you care so much about what Kaz said? all this anxiety over a few words in a bike review... you need help.
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 Ha, this thread is so full of drama that I might as well hop back in and join the show.

@chriskneeland, the reason I don't think this bike in particular is that jib-friendly is because I've actually ridden it. The chainstays are fairly long at 445mm, and combined with a 480mm reach, a 63-degree head angle and a very rearward axle path you have a bike that's better at plowing down the trail in a straight line rather than hopping and popping around.

Maybe I'm confused about the definition of jibbing (I'll admit I was surprised that you included a Schleybletop as a key trick), but to me jibbing is what the 50to01 crew are doing - lots of 180s, nose bonks, general goofing off in the woods. For that style of riding, something that's easier to maneuver would be my pick - bikes like the Santa Cruz 5010 or Transition Scout come to mind.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 10:51) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: Perfect example. The 50to01 guys are jibbing around trails with 140mm bikes. When the 50to01 crew came to the US on their bike park tour they were all under biked. They had a jam on one of the smallest jumps in the park. It was almost disappointing. The Shore wasn't intended to be a trail bike. Jibbing on big lines is way different than what the 50to01 guys are doing. Those of us who spend most of our time on DH bikes in a bike park notice the poppier more playful feel of a shorter travel bike without it becoming under biked. And it will still get you back from the out-of-bounds lines you normally have to push back from. So even though you rode this bike, were you riding it with the bike's intent? That's my gripe.
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 @chriskneeland, my time on this bike took place on steep, rugged trails, and included plenty of drops and jumps. I even rode a few sketchy skinnies for old time's sake. Some of those trails were accessed by shuttling, others by pedaling, which is exactly what this bike it intended for.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 11:04) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: So, my first assessment was correct.
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 @chriskneeland: dude, we get it already... you're deeply insecure... just let it go.
  • 11 0
 @chriskneeland, I honestly don't understand what your gripe is. Are you mad I didn't ride a chairlift? Is pedaling not on the list of things I'm allowed to do on this bike?

The border is closed, and the closest lift served area that's decent is 6+ hours away. Luckily we have amazing shuttle trails that are very well suited for a bike like the Shore, or a DH bike for that matter. There are also gnarly trails that can only be accessed by pedaling, which I don't mind doing at all.
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 @mikekazimer: I think he is just excited that he found a way to get some attention, unfortunately it’s a lot easier to get negative attention than possitive... not speaking from experience or anything....
  • 7 0
 @mikekazimer: I think his gripe is that he hasn't received sufficient recognition for his freeride jibs so he's desperately attempting to put everyone else down in order to lift himself up.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 11:54) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: It's an unfair judgement from the wrong end of the spectrum. I expected someone who works in your position to understand that. I know plenty of guys that could properly throw this thing around. Maybe pinkbike would consider hiring one. It'd be a nice addition.

@thegoodflow: Definitely never made it about me. I mean, you're trying to make it about me, but definitely not about me. I'd say it's more about a genre. But definitely not something I'd expect a Joey to understand.
  • 12 0
 @chriskneeland, seriously? You're trying to question my riding skill? Awesome. If you're ever in the area hit me up and we'll go freeriding.
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 @mikekazimer: I’m going to bellingham next week...I could shoot some film for mr. Kneeland if you’d like...maybe you can show me the difference between a tree slide and a coping slide??? I’m tired of being a Joey turd. Frown
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 12:11) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: Definitely. I plan on making the trip to check out Blue Steel post Covid. Make it worth my while.
  • 2 0
 @chriskneeland: where does all this anger and hate come from?
  • 6 0
 @mikekazimer: hey just say “yes it’s jib-able” and maybe this crybaby will be satisfied lol
  • 1 10
flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 12:26) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Who's angry? I think you're reading my comments with an unintended tone. I'm just stating my conviction. Strongly yes. Angrily not at all.
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 @chriskneeland: LOL just like how you're "not" trolling, "not" living in the comments section caring about what we say, "not" making this about you. keep this going!! go on, continue telling us what else you're not doing. we are all enthralled and entertained at this point.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 15, 2020 at 12:35) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Go back Joe. I think you misread a few things.
  • 2 0
 @chriskneeland: booorrrriiiing... what happened to hater chriskneeland, he's way more fun!
  • 5 0
 @cuban-b, @unrooted, @mikekazimer: this thread has been thoroughly entertaining. Since we're e-racing, I went on this dude's trailforks to see what kind of gnarly trails he's riding out in New Hampshire. Check out these bad boys: www.trailforks.com/profile/chriskneeland/ridelog

Spoiler alert: mostly greens and blues.
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 @CaMKii: they become black trails when you grab a handful of rear brake to “drift” EVERY corner.
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: for posterity: the specialized status is an amazing jib bike.
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 @CaMKii: Man, you got me. Looks like @mikekazimer is gonna get me killed when I get to Bellingham.
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 @chriskneeland: do you know how many times I hit that jump before I felt comfortable taking my knee pads, elbow pads, full face helmet, shin guards, leatt neck brace, carhartt pants, down jacket, chest protector, football shoulder pads, hockey hip pads, combat boots, and Everest expedition mittens, off?
  • 1 0
 @preach: Yeah obviously you're a hard one. Should have guessed as much. If you don't wanna take mine, maybe take Kazimers word for it.
  • 2 0
 @BenTheSwabian: nah I'm just old ;-)
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 @unrooted: By the looks of that picture, put it back on.
  • 2 0
 YES! he's back! this guy f*cking rules ^
  • 5 2
 @chriskneeland: I’m good, unlike you I’ve fully come to terms with being a slightly less than mediocre rider. . . The first step is to realize that being good at controlling a child’s toy well has nothing to do with how good of a person you are.
  • 4 1
 @unrooted: i'm happy Kaz said this bike isnt a jib bike because we would have been deprived of this hilarious meltdown over a word in a review.
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 @cuban-b: there is nothing funnier than seeing someone care about something some trivial, especially when it’s just one guys opinion!
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 @unrooted: Buuttt...all I said was he's far from a freerider. Ya'll took it to another level. I just responded the same way I would to any Joey in the comment section.
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 @chriskneeland: sounds like a really Joey thing to say.
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 @unrooted: When dealing with Joey's, you have to talk to them on their level.
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 @cuban-b: I'll swing through from time to time to stir up you turds.
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 @chriskneeland: cool story, Joey. what else did you not do?
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 16, 2020 at 12:10) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: What are you in fantasy land? What did I say I did? You delusional too?
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 @chriskneeland: you keep coming back because you were owned, and you still care about what we say, and it's getting to you. this is your attempt at saving face. i empathize with your insecurity, good luck with that.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 16, 2020 at 12:20) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Triggered? There you go with your delusions again. Damn. This whole time all these mental health accusations were just you projecting. Now I feel bad. Take care bro. There's help out there.
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flag chriskneeland (Oct 16, 2020 at 12:24) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: Owned by who? You're all Joey's. Kaz still sounds like he can't handle anything bigger than 150mm of travel. And ya'll still dont' know shit about me. But catch me any time you're in the north east. Invite's always open.
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 @chriskneeland: why so triggered? whoa bro you can handle bigger than 150mm, that's too much information, what you do in your personal time you should keep private. and it's "Owned by whom"
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 @cuban-b: Ahh, not only delusional, but developmentally challenged. Sounds like a comeback I'd used in 7th grade. I don't mind busting balls, but I beginning to think I've been picking on someone on the spectrum.
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 ^ oh yup, owned.
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 @chriskneeland: isn’t all of this shit talking just you procrastinating your pre-algebra homework?
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 @unrooted: Ahh...so owned.
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 @chriskneeland: come on, thirds times the charm, I really believe you can pass the 8th grade, especially over zoom.
  • 5 0
 @unrooted: fwiw your back yard build stuff looks like a fun time sir
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 @preach: I enjoy it, and it’s easy to change it up as my mediocre skills slowly improve! One day I hope to build a half pipe so hopefully I can maintain some sense of balance into my old age.
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 @unrooted: I used to have about 6 shore features going down our west hillside of our lot... Until a neighbor rode it when I was out of town and broke his collarbone... Then down it all came
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 @preach: I should probably put some type of lock on my “features” to avoid something similar! Especially if I ever get a half pipe built, a good chunk of the skaters in my town sure go out of there way to look like they should be extras from Breaking Bad...
  • 21 9
 Too bad the tall riders are being forced into that monsterous rear center. Freeride bikes don’t need that kinda length in my opinion. Still it’s nice to see that park bikes are coming back and 27.5 isn’t dead!
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 Might be worth reserving judgement until you've ridden it!
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 @dkidd: normally I’d agree but the numbers remind of my V-10.6 and I’m permanently scared by my hate for that bike and monsterous chainstays for not-racing. But I do hope to ride her still and I applaud norco for making it!
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 @Colson217: I’d wager the front center is at least a little longer on this
  • 9 3
 I’m 6’5 and I’d honesty want a large with the small or medium rear end (I had a bigger bike and sized down to something that’s similar to the large with a small rear end and I have zero regrets). Over 1320 wheelbase is pretty massive especially for a “freeride” bike. If it is gonna be that big you might as well make it a 29er or a mullet because it’s gonna be a speed machine not some agile “freeride” bike. Other than that it looks sweet.
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 A rider on an XL frame definitely needs 450mm chainstays. Props to Norco for steepening seat angles and longer stays on bigger frames, they've really figured it out.
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 @toothlessrancidbear: if you plan to race I agree, but I disagree that taller riders NEED them on freeride bikes and even everyday trail bikes. Just seems like 450 chainstays will make for a fast bike but not necessarily a fun bike. I supposed it is all a matter of preference much like 29 vs. 27.5.
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 @toothlessrancidbear: you definitely don’t need 450 chainstays. I’m 6’5 on an xl bike and I’ve never had longer than 435 cs. Jack moir rides a large canyon spectral (with 435 cs) and he’s 6’4 or are you gonna tell him he’s definitely on the wrong bike.
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 @Daledenton: In this sense "need" was meant as more of a preference. I've been riding around lately on a 435mm chainstay bike in XL and, while agile, it is significantly less stable than the 455mm I had previously. Other geometry numbers are fairly comparable. I will never understand why, when designing a frame, you wouldn't offer multiple axle positions that move the brake mount. Then everyone could decide for themselves. Too easy huh bike industry?
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 @toothlessrancidbear: yeah totally valid to want longer chainstays. Multiple axle positions would be amazing or even if more brands did what raaw does and offer different rear ends for sale so you can have a short or long rear end which makes me wonder how hard it would be to get a small rear end for the shore.
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 Interesting. I am 5'5" and ride my gambler in the 440mm chainstay setting. Wish it was longer to be honest. I feel more confident with the stable ride.
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 Grim donut? Sorry, thought you were someone else for a second.
  • 3 0
 Yes, I thought it was in the thumbnail pic
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 I thought the same thing! It's the donut!!!
  • 17 3
 that A2 paint job Drool
  • 2 0
 But you like the Park/Commencal green???? I know others love it, but it reminds me of faded military equipment.
  • 4 0
 Ridiculous in the best way possible!
  • 8 0
 it's got a early 90s Norco Mountaineer SL vibe
  • 20 8
 Wish this had a mullet option.
  • 16 1
 Just run 29" front wheel and a 170mm fork and you are all good.
  • 5 1
 Dual crown forks have less axle to crown height as well. So you could put a DC 29 fork in and not mess up the geo
  • 1 2
 @mixmastamikal: that'd give it a 62.5 head angle right? I love slack head angles (63.5-64 is my sweet spot) but 62.5 sounds extreme.
  • 1 3
 @coletrane-mtb: more like 61.5-62 and 8-10mm less bb drop.
  • 12 3
 Why?
Why does everyone love mullet all of a sudden?
Are modern geometries not good enough?
  • 1 1
 @coletrane-mtb: 62sih. just ran the numbers with 29" boxxer at 180
  • 2 0
 @coletrane-mtb: A lot of people on the Geometron G1 are running 62.5 or even lower and really like it, so I don't really think it is that crazy.
  • 5 0
 @mixmastamikal:

I didn't see it here, but for what its worth, the VitalMTB review says:

'We will get it out of the way right now, Norco does not endorse setting up the Shore with a mullet configuration."

www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Norco/Shore-A1,31653#product-reviews/3936

No idea why. Just thought I'd call it out.
  • 2 0
 @ocnlogan: Interesting, Nice Find.
  • 3 0
 @mixmastamikal: An angleset can solve those issues pretty easily. Luckily the STA is super steep!
  • 1 0
 @SeanC1: it’s good
  • 1 0
 @mixmastamikal: just nice to buy a bike without having to buy more stuff.
  • 2 2
 @SeanC1: Because there's a lot of slow speed tech where I would ride a bike like this (go watch the Snowshoe world cup and you'll see what I mean) and the 29er really helps keep you moving when you loose speed or get knocked off line. Sure on mellow tech and flow trails don't care what size the front wheel is.
  • 1 0
 @daugherd: I don't think I could handle that, I like to tinker too much.
  • 1 1
 @SeanC1: mullets are the perfect wheel size combo. Stable and grippy in the front, loose and snappy in the back. They aren't going anywhere my friend.

I have the Spesh Status, I got it cuz it was the first affordable 29/27.5 mullet long travel non-dh bike. I absolutely love it. Also have a yt decoy mullet, love it too. Pure 29 feels so boring now and 27 feels a little sketchy.
  • 2 0
 @Purpledragonslayer: If it's the perfect wheel size combo then why doesn't every manufacturer make mullet bikes?

I feel like we've gotten to a point where everyone has some minor variation to an otherwise perfectly good mountain bike that they individually consider to be "the best" 5mm difference in BB here, 20mm in handlebar there, mullet vs the same wheel size, etc.

And yet there was a time when bikes were simpler, and people with skill were shredding better than most people do now with all of these minor adjustments and different standard sizes available.
  • 1 1
 @SeanC1: why doesn't every manufacturer make mullets? I think mostly cuz they want to sell bikes and there is a weird mtb culture that cares more about how a bike looks than how it rides. I've read so many comments like my OCD will never agree with mixed wheel sizes. Man that is such an eye roll comment!

I think you should ride a mullet bike. It's not just a small change. They're more stable and more playful at the same time.

Mullet wheels also solve the understeer problems with modern geo 29ers. Are you familiar? Basically this is the issue that average riders go charging harder than their tallent on their otherwise excellent modern geo bikes, with poor technique - rearward weight bias in turns - they push the front wheel and lowside into the dirt. Read any thread on a truly modern geo bike and you'll see lots of stories about these types of crashes. We'll guess what, mullet bikes have an oversteer effect that works with the modern geo effect in a synergistic way to make the bikes corner without the dreaded push feeling. Mullets are litterally the answer and response to modern geo issues. Of course you can get your body way over the front, load the front wheel, and manhandle the bike through every corner, but that is a) very fatiguing b) risky cause I just takes one f* up to crash.

It's cool if you don't want to try one, but many many more brands will be releasing mullet bikes.
  • 1 0
 @mixmastamikal: me too but when things break and need replaced. I hate having spare parts I don't need laying around.
  • 11 1
 Amazing value for money on this and a perfect bike for so many of us. If I didn't have my Megatower I'd seriously consider this tank at the price point.
  • 7 0
 That A2 model is a smoking deal
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: Great value for it. Both bikes are an odd spec with Fox suspension/Sram drivetrain and Rock Shox suspension/Shimano drivetrain. It's like they forgot Sram pressures you to buy a cheap drivetrain to go with anything Rock Shox.
  • 14 2
 This bike shore looks great!!! Well done!
  • 12 0
 I hope Norco travels the world with a test fleet, I’d love to take one out for a free ride!
  • 5 10
flag usedbikestuff (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:34) (Below Threshold)
 @unrooted: says the guy in the midst of a global pandemic
  • 1 2
 @unrooted: Contact your bike shop! They're probably going 2 have some.
  • 9 0
 @usedbikestuff: you've taken a highly pivotal view to this thread of puns
  • 12 0
 Norco is on fire this year
  • 11 3
 From seeing some local freeride guys hit stuff, it makes me wonder if this long geo and chainstays are the right tool for the job. For Enduro racing, without uber pro skills, sure its real stable and planted etc....but for dudes riding some technical jumps & life threatening stuff, I'm guessing they want the travel but not all that frame length. Curious if this would be something Jordi/Wade would want over something more compact.
  • 8 2
 Yeah I thought the point of free ride is big suspension travel, but shorter wheelbase for more maneuverability.
  • 3 2
 I don't like the long wheelbase trend. My current bike is sub 1200 (medium) and still feels long after a year of ownership.
  • 5 1
 Yeah that was my first thought when I saw the geo too. chainstays between 440 and 435 would have been fine and a head angle of about 65. All I'm seeing here is long travel Enduro.
  • 11 0
 In regard to axle paths: Get rearward, or get f*cked.
  • 8 0
 It looks like was designed by PB comment section:
- freeride namme
- small wheels
- raw color
- idler
- proportional length
- steep seat tube
- water bottle
- whatever any other commenter will insert
  • 2 0
 MORE WATER BOTTLES.
  • 6 0
 Such a soft spot for Norco bikes, I had a 2002 Norco Shore, Brand new when I worked as a wrench in a bike shop. Heavy, noisy beastly damn thing, but I never broke it. Then went to a 2005 Shore, was a whole new world, 888 on the front, with that sweet Hadley rear hub. If I remember correctly it came with a 12mm threaded rear axle that was basically a chunk of old Russian radioactive lead, weighed a tonne...... I could wax poetic all day about old Norco freeride bikes, they are what got me excited about the sport, Long Live Freeride!
  • 8 0
 That is the coolest bike Ive seen on here in a damn long time! Now if only I didnt live in Texas....
  • 1 2
 No..the coolest bike seen here in a damn long time was/is that cnc-ed, glued aluminium P-Train.
  • 1 0
 Hahaha I can guarantee someone in texas will buy one for CO or NM park.
  • 6 1
 Please just a shorter chainstay... back to BMX analogies... race BMX bikes have long chainstays for stability and freestyle BMX bikes have short chainstays for maneuverability and fun! I own both and the difference is huge! I love the idea of this bike, but I wish they would bring the Rear Centre down to 420 or so on the large instead of 445 or maybe adjustable?! 27.5 wheels was a good start but the geometry should have been more FUN. The Aurum and the Range fill in for the boring rides. :-)
  • 5 0
 Good on Norco for being absolutely unapologetic to the industry standards currently. This thing is a sandbagging, tank, ment to do one thing.... Eat gnar for breakfast.... Norco knows exactly who they are catering to with this one.... Not gonna lie... That vaporwave Shore makes me wanna strap on the full face, body armour, and go full sendy in the deep and dark forest....
  • 14 11
 So this thing has been leaked a few times all summer, and once the marketing leaked, calling it freeride, I was puzzled. If " stopwatches or finish lines are not even part of the conversation" then whats the point of the idler? It adds weight, complexity maintenance, and drag. I get that there can be amazing benefits too, but those benefits all revolve around stopwatches and finish lines.
  • 2 0
 My guess would be that the engineers had a lot of experience with that layout on longer travel designs from the HSP and the other protos that the team has been racing.
  • 24 0
 less pedal kickback on big drops when the bike doesn't have as much forward momentum (where pedal kickback is usually not felt as much)?
  • 1 7
flag FuzzyL (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:15) (Below Threshold)
 And around not needing a pivot in the chainstay.
  • 14 0
 Idler pulley so that your cranks don't rotate backwards 180 degrees and destroy your derailleur at full compression
  • 9 0
 Canfield Jedi was a do it all race huck park bike with an idler. Improving suspension for a better ride matters to everyone.
  • 3 0
 @usedbikestuff: Canefield had "The One" back then that was the do it all bike. The Jedi was DH only.
  • 1 7
flag hamncheez (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:26) (Below Threshold)
 @gserrato: You can just put the main pivot lower to get less pedal kickback.
  • 9 0
 because, why not. Weight was not in the equation here. Ask somebody with a Canfield Jedi ; )
  • 7 0
 @hamncheez: Ahem, sorry. Let’s go way way way back then. The Big Fat Fatty Fat had an idler and mullet 26”/24”. That was OG freeride in ‘99. They knew then idlers were the way to make things better.
  • 5 0
 A2 frame color is... bold Color aside, this bike is awesome. Norco's lineup is on point.
  • 5 0
 Still waiting on the Range (or whatever the 29" version is), but still pretty stoked on this.
  • 4 0
 Thinking this www.pinkbike.com/photo/19175748 is still the new Range. There's no way that was a prototype for the Shore.
  • 2 0
 @coletrane-mtb: you are correct.
  • 1 0
 @Muchogusto: what's the bet that the new range is 165 rear travel?
  • 5 1
 I didn't see the word "kinematics" used in the article. Why was there no mention of kinematics? How am I supposed to know what to think of the suspension design??
  • 6 0
 Norco has been killing the MTB game for the last 18 months!
  • 6 0
 She's a beaut
  • 5 0
 38lbs??!!

Park build looks super fun though.
  • 5 0
 Its a bike that is designed to spend most of its time on a tailgate pad or on a chairlift, with the occasional push to the top of something rowdy that is only pedal access. A fantastic 1-2 punch with something like an Optic, Spur, or the new Stumpy.
  • 6 1
 Looks like the Grim Donut.
  • 1 1
 you beat me too it
  • 7 1
 Oh lawd he comin
  • 14 0
 When the weight in lbs matches your stanchion diameter in mm. Magic.
  • 5 3
 @RoboDuck: Ripmo AF owner, can confirm 36lbs & 36mm works well.
  • 4 0
 @DHhack: 36 pound E29 (eh, maybe more) with 36mm Ohlins, I am very happy
  • 4 0
 The want is strong with this one. I don't care if I have the skill or guts to use it properly. It's great.
  • 2 0
 My thoughts exactly
  • 4 1
 That A2 Blue/Pink frame is gorgeous! I'm all for understated colours but once and a while its nice to pop.

Great looking bike for the Freeriders
  • 4 3
 Well I'm very happy to see a 27.5 bike for 2021. This thing is stout looking and I love it! Hopefully all the chest beating,hipster 29er fanatics don't change their minds and think 27.5 is cool again so I can buy it on clearance next season.
  • 3 2
 You'd better pray is sells like hot cake or else you'll not see another for 20 years. The reinvented freeride category is the last chance for 27.5 wheels. If this doesn't work, they'll get extinct(and, by extinct, I mean, cheap 100 USD supermarket bikes).
  • 3 0
 Props for what looks to be an uninterrupted seat tube, for running any dropper you want. Good luck making that work with 29s.
  • 1 0
 DT Swiss enduro range , I think mine are E1700s , solid reliable so far, though disappointed that the rear pawls is so low number on the stock hubs, and cost silly money to get the extra toothed pawl, I did stump the cash up and it has greatly improved the engagement speed, good for those little quarter crank turns.
  • 4 0
 I’m going to buy it this spring
  • 3 3
 This is my 15-year old self's ultimate bike, looks f*cking sick! Not to mention it has a THREADED BB, good job Norco!! Just needs a Hammerschmidt now...

In a perfect world I would take 15mm off the reach and chainstay to reduce the wheelbase and make it a bit more chuckable (large with 465/430 rather than 480/445), but I bet this thing hauls ass.
  • 3 2
 You are describing the RM Slayer Smile . (minus the one where the chainstay broke lol). Its no surprise that Rocky's pedigree in Freeride has that geometry fairly dialed and that they don't have chainstays as long as Pole for legit 180mm Freeride stuff lol. This looks more like a long travel enduro race bike. I kind of think Norco missed the mark a bit but I'm not talented enough to test it out.
  • 2 1
 @Svinyard: The RM Slayer's geo does look great, but it's not a high pivot design and it has a PF bb...
  • 1 0
 Except the slayer is 29er only in half its sizes for 2021.
  • 2 0
 Doesn't need a climb switch on the rear shock??? Hmmmm, wonder if it would be nice to keep that BB high climbing through rocky terrain?
  • 6 4
 No real mullet setup is a deal breaker for me. Porting a 160mm 29 fork up front doesn't count.

Norco: we like flip chips and shit like that.
  • 3 0
 I would like to walk that bike to the top of a mountain and point it down something really steep.
  • 1 0
 I was ready looking forward to this bike but the sizing may not work for me! Small is too short and medium is too long. Size up and get a shorter stem? 435 reach is my sweet spot.
  • 1 0
 Can't call this a shore unless it's the loudest thing within 2 km of itself. I miss the days of the hydroformed a-line, shore, etc VPS norco bikes clanking and clonking around.
  • 4 0
 Freeride bikes are back.
  • 1 0
 What's with the A2 pricing? $3199 USD in article, $4999 CAD on Norco website. Mistake in article? @mikekazimer Or perhaps the Zeb is subject to some bigtime tariffs
  • 2 0
 is it just me...or does this look like the production version of the grim donut????????????????
  • 3 0
 I'm getting a real old school freeride vibe from this thing. Hell yeah!
  • 4 1
 Nice, Norco licensed the Grim Donut. Big Grin
  • 3 0
 How can it have pedal kickback, it doesn't even have pedals.
  • 3 0
 Excellent geo! Fantastic seat angle 77-78!!!!!! 480 reach L Wink
  • 1 0
 Hey Norco, any chance its possible to mix and match i.e. put size small stays on an L front triangle?
  • 9 0
 I doubt it. I believe the rear ends are the same, but they just move the pivot points rearward (relative to bb) on the larger sizes. But I could be wrong
  • 3 0
 @kcy4130: That's correct.
  • 5 0
 JFC first people complain that stays aren't short enough, then that they aren't long enough, and here we are again wanting them short again. I'm all about nerding out, but at some point you just gotta deal.
  • 4 1
 @kcy4130: thanks!
@pheller its supposed to be a freeride bike, and not everyone likes the move in geo, when you break a sweat bunnyhopping up a curb I no longer consider it a fun bike, even if it is faster and more stable.
  • 4 1
 @transitionrob: if you break a sweat bunny hopping a curb on any bike other than a tandem you need more practice.
  • 4 2
 Put a 29 front on that park bike and boom!
  • 1 0
 The park version comes with a GX1 7-speed drivetrain but in the photo it is clearly a zee rear derailleur.
  • 3 0
 27.5 ain't dead!
  • 2 2
 I was about to say take my money. Then I saw the weight.... I will wait for some ownership experience to occur and any quirks are identified.
  • 2 0
 Cannot wait to ride this beast!
  • 3 0
 Looks like the Donut
  • 1 3
 So stoked about this, geo is on point, HP design with idler wheel, threaded BB, finally straight shot top tube (sucks its not like this on all bikes for small size to run 180mm+), comes stock with 2 Doubledown tires so no need to plan for extra weight.
Greaaaat colors and nice that you can put on a dual crown safely without snapping it in half.
Like 10-15 years ago tho i see these coming and going in a couple of years because of lack of sales, cant compete with one bike quiver trail or enduro bikes.
It is Canadian designed but built in China, Norco has never been known for build and quality of finish its why its so cheap, i dont get the 3 years warranty on all of their best/most capable frame tho as they been making frames for decades, you believe in your design or you dont. (same problem as YT and all the lacking 3 years warranty manufacturers).
Cant talk about the weight because its 180mm/180mm, has a coil AND unlike 99% of bike it comes with the tires you will ride and the right casings as well, no need to buff anything up.

Only negatives here and im nit picking, first, needing to buy 2 chains when the first one dies and use the second one to add links to all of the next chains that will go on it because the HSP design needs more than 126 links. Second warranty is too short, make it 5 which should be industry standard. Lastly, im pretty sure its either robot welded or welded by 3-4 different persons, some welds seem too hot some too cold and uneven. Maybe thats what is driving the short warranty, doesnt inspire confidence if you know how to weld.
Gj Norco
  • 3 0
 Norco says you will be fine with 126 links...Just saying.
  • 2 2
 Is a 180mm single crown fork on a 63 degree HTA bike going to have wear issues long term? I feel like it deserves a 180mm DC fork
  • 1 0
 190 spring in a fox 40 would keep geometry pretty much the same
  • 2 0
 Looks lIke a Grim Donut!
  • 1 1
 I'm very interested on how this would compare to my 2018 Capra 27.5. Also, how much is the frameset, as it looks like all my parts would fit this bike...
  • 1 0
 Norco any chance you could form up this frame a little to recreate the VLT SHORE
  • 1 1
 Wow, not a fan of frames with vertically placed shock, but this looks really great. Should come on EX471 rims at least and shimano mech and brakes anyway.
  • 1 0
 Ok... i stay with my Spindrift - or get the new one... Looking forward to a comparison!
  • 2 0
 they should make a 26 version as well
  • 1 0
 Just when I managed to convince myself I don't want a new bike...low blow, Norco!
  • 1 0
 Looks like more.Norco Truax than Shore.I loved my truax on 26" was sick freefun bike Wink
  • 2 1
 Cool to see a bike like this, reminds me of the Scott Voltage. Awesome colors.
  • 3 0
 The "Slim-Donut" !?
  • 1 0
 now we are getting somewhere with bike design. I might even start shopping for a new bike in a year or so...
  • 1 0
 Expect to pay atleast %20 more on europe
  • 1 0
 the only answer:FREERIDE go big or go home.
  • 2 1
 Idler pulley is great for climbing.
  • 2 0
 Hell yeah
  • 2 0
 hell yeah brother
  • 1 0
 Price range is wrong, it obviously starts at 3199 not 3999
  • 1 0
 Put a 12 speed drivetrain and the dual crown fork on the same build cmon
  • 3 0
 buy the frame n do it yourself xd
  • 2 1
 FA VERAMENTE CAGARE IL CAZZO
  • 2 1
 How much will it go for on PB Buy/Sell next year?
  • 2 1
 Awesome to see Deity pop up in OEM spec, hope to see more!
  • 1 0
 Nice bike! If I were a younger man ...
  • 1 0
 Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeride that things long.
  • 1 0
 JC Denton: "My ride is augmented."
  • 1 0
 The A1 Park in the picture has a Shimano RD, not a SRAM one...
  • 2 5
 " but with the idler in place the amount of kickback is greatly reduced."

It looks like the pulley is concentric with the main pivot, which means kickback is zero, as is anti-squat (well, maybe a little AS from the wheel pushing the axle forward under acceleration, though at sag that will probably be pretty minimal, and of course no AS from the chain forces).
  • 4 0
 The "main pivot" on this bike is not concentric with the idler pulley - it's actually a virtual pivot because the bike has horst link suspension system. Pedal kickback and anti-squat are not zero.
  • 2 0
 Love it!!
  • 1 4
 "the pedaling efficiency is impressive"

But you guys have been telling us for years that more anti-squat is the way to get "efficient feeling" suspension. What's changed? I'd love to see the numbers on this bike, because I'm pretty sure anti-squat is going to be pretty damn low.

"The lack of unwanted suspension movement is impressive"

So maybe those "efficient feeling" designs with more AS are actually contributing to unwanted suspension movement if you're not pedaling perfect circles?
  • 3 0
 anti squat on high pivots and idlers typically can be damn high as with idler you don´t have to worry about pedal kickback anyways. I would expect it to be at or slightly above 100% at sag in climbing gears.
  • 1 2
 @Mondbiker: You don't have pedal kickback only if the idler is concentric with the main pivot. The kickback will be small unless the offset on the pulley is huge, but the anti-squat provided by the chain forces will also be very small in that case. This bike seems to have a concentric pulley, so both will be close to zero.
  • 2 0
 @just6979: It´s much more about where the chainline is in relation to main pivot and in this case that is quite a lot higher. I wouldn´t mind seeing the numbers. Any norco guys in this piece?
  • 1 0
 That's a pretty stout build kit for only $5200
  • 2 0
 Freeride is back tup
  • 2 1
 Nice but, could do with an inch off the rear
  • 1 0
 I can't believe you scrolled all the way down here to comment...
  • 1 0
 Is that a dh bike with 2 bottle mounts ???
  • 1 0
 Those small wheels just looks so out of place on a big bike like that.
  • 8 9
 Why 27.5?? It’s not playful long chainstays, high pivot. Give me a mullet and I’ll be happy.
  • 4 1
 Lawl.
  • 2 2
 Available in Silver, Green, and "Tutti Frutti"
  • 1 1
 that bike looks like a construction site
  • 1 1
 Spesh big hit 3 is back and updated , fekkin awesome ????
  • 4 6
 I think this thing looks awesome, but Norco has totally copied Commencal's homework from 2 years ago!
www.pinkbike.com/news/commencal-supreme-sx-review.html
  • 2 4
 @unrooted: incidentally, if judging by what ppl from here say, ppl who actually freeride, that SX really looks like a fr bike, i.e. big travel, short and agile bike, idler pulley for a rearward axle-path.
By comparison, this looks like a long, bad-ass, plowy, park tank.
  • 1 1
 Looks like the Grim Donut! Wink
  • 1 1
 Looks like a bike from 1998 with modern geometry.
  • 2 2
 I'll just take 10 more lbs and a motor.....
  • 3 4
 Please put solid welds on that thing so nobody has to deal with what I dealt with on my Truax.
  • 1 2
 I really like this bike but prices are indecent. 5899€ for shore 1 one Norco's web site...
  • 1 4
 @unrooted: probably they don't care about selling in Europe. Well, if this is out, let's see about that Giga from Nuke.
  • 1 1
 Canfield One version 2 please
  • 1 0
 Looks like an Airdrop
  • 2 4
 My kind of bike but I think the Slayer is better spec'd for a similar price. And you get a 29 inch option.
  • 2 3
 I think it's an ugly bike.
  • 2 2
 #GRIZTOUR
  • 1 2
 Shimano MT-250? Or is that 520? Either way, brutally under powered.
  • 1 3
 Its looks like a horse link with the trek acp pivot design
  • 1 2
 Grim Donut. Yawn.
  • 2 5
 Looks like a Druid!
  • 5 1
 OR the result of a druid that had an affair with a grim doughnut.
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