First Ride: The 2024 Rocky Mountain Instinct Gets Updated Geometry & In-Frame Storage

Mar 4, 2024 at 17:06
by Mike Kazimer  


Someone on the Rocky Mountain marketing team used the term 'quiver killer' in the press release for the 2024 Instinct, a term that I'd thought was banned years ago, right around the time 'climbs like a goat' was put out to pasture (pun intended).

There's still never been a bike that could successfully replace both an XC bike and a downhill bike, although I do understand the urge to use that tired cliché, especially with the new Instinct – its 140mm of rear travel, 150mm fork, and very adjustable geometry make it possible to configure it for big days of pedaling, or to slacken it out for more gravity-oriented adventures. So while 'quiver killer' makes me cringe, the concept of creating an incredibly versatile trail bike is a sound one. Just use another term next time, please.
Instinct Details
• Carbon or aluminum frame options
• 140 mm rear travel, 150 mm front
• 29" wheels (27.5" for XS & S)
• Weight: 30.6 lb / 13.9 kg (C70, L)
• Head angle: 63.5 - 64.3°
• Chainstay length: 437 or 447mm (size L)
• Sizes: XS - XL / 398 - 513 mm reach
• Price: $2,899 to $10,499 USD
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The Instinct's amount of travel and 29” wheel size (on all but the XS and S models) are held over from the previous version, but it's undergone a fairly substantial frame design and geometry revision. The overall look is similar, although the headtube does have a beefier appearance in order to accommodate a reach adjusting headset, and there's now downtube storage.

There are six complete carbon-framed version of the Instinct, along with a frame-only option, plus three complete aluminum-framed models. Prices start at $2,899 USD for the alloy Instinct 10, and climb all the way up to $10,499 for the extra fancy, RockShox Flight Attendant-equipped carbon Instinct 99.


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The new headtube shape helps the Instinct stand out from the crowd, and allows for reach adjusting headset cups.

Frame Details

The new Instinct shares the same basic shape as the prior model – the shock is still mounted to the underside of the top tube – but it looks more filled out, as if it spent the last few years bulking up in the gym. Personally, I'm a fan of the updated silhouette - it looks angular and modern, at least to my eyes. The more generous proportions allow for plenty of downtube storage space in the carbon models, which Rocky calls the Penalty Box 2.0. A latch holds the cover securely in place, and there's even a little slot to slide in an AirTag or a Tile to help keep track of the bike's whereabouts.

Along with having a snack stash, the new Instinct also has swappable headset cups that can be used to add or subtract 5mm of reach. The cups press into the frame by hand, no tools required, and theoretically you could even do a trailside swap to really figure out which geometry setting works best.

The geometry tinkering possibilities don't end there, though; a Ride 4 flip chip at the rear shock mount allows for, you guessed it, four different geometry positions. There's also a chainstay flip chip that lets riders select from either a 437 or 448mm chainstay length, unless you're planning on running a SRAM T-Type drivetrain, in which case only the longer chainstay position is compatible.

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There are 4 geometry settings available by rotating the Ride-4 flip chip.
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Another flip chip at the chainstays alters the length by 10mm.


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The Penalty Box 2.0 is easy to use, and has a hidden AirTag holder on the underside of the lid.
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The included tool roll can also be used for summer sausage storage.




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Geometry

All of the aforementioned adjustments mean there's a wide range of possible geometry permutations for the Instinct. The head angle can be set as slack as 63.5-degrees or as steep as 64.3-degrees; 64-degrees is the middle, neutral position. In that same neutral position the seat angle is 77-degrees, .3-degrees steeper than the outgoing model. The seat tube lengths have decreased, and there's plenty of insertion depth, which means riders shouldn't have any trouble running the length of dropper post they'd like.

Along with slightly steeper seat tube angles, the Instinct's reach has actually decreased, and is 7mm shorter on the size large compared to the previous version. Don't forget, the old model shared a frame with the longer travel Altitude, just with a different size shock and mount. That's no longer the case, which likely made it easier to optimize the geometry for the bike's intended purpose.




Builds

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Instinct Carbon 99 $14,999 CAD / $10,499 USD
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Instinct Carbon 90 $11,999 CAD / $8,999 USD
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Instinct Carbon 70 AXS $9,999 CAD / $7,899 USD
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Instinct Carbon 70 $8,299 CAD / $6,499 USD

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Instinct Carbon 50 $6,999 CAD / $5,499 USD

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Instinct Alloy 50 $5,599 CAD / $4,599 USD
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Instinct Alloy 30 $3,999 CAD / $3,399 USD
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Instinct Alloy 10 $3,199 CAD / $2,899 USD


Ride Impressions

I've only been able to sneak in one long ride on the Instinct so far, a ride that put me in directly in the path of an atmospheric river. It's a little harder to really suss out a bike's nuances when you're simultaneously trying to stay warm and keep from getting sucked into monstrous mud holes, so I'll be following up with a full review later this year, ideally one that includes riding in some slightly nicer weather.

I'll also be experimenting more with the geometry settings as time goes on, but I started off with the chainstays in the longer position and the head angle in the -5mm setting. That put me in a comfortable seated climbing position, and the bike felt nicely balanced on the descents. It doesn't feel quite as high strung as the previous version, which is a good thing – that slacker head angle makes it feel more at home in steeper terrain, and the tune of the Float X shock helped keep the rear wheel grip in the slippery, slimy conditions. Those Dissector tires aren't totally out of place on a trail bike, although I'll probably stick something a little meatier on, at least until the sun starts showing up more regularly.

Overall, the new Instinct seems to have evolved nicely – it's noticeably more capable on the descents than before, without giving up much when it comes time to climb. Plus, with all that extra room for storage it's possible to ride even further without running out of sweet treats.




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  • 250 5
 I want to report back on a very positive experience I've had with Rocky.

Back in January I posted about my frustration that the clearcoat on my Altitude was peeling and that my warranty claim was being ignored. Rocky posted that they would take care of me and they have.

Within a couple of days the Director of Customer Service got back to me. She had done her homework, figured out where things had gone wrong, apologized and took full responsibility. She also connected me with their top paint guy about the problem. Within a couple of weeks I had a new frame and during that time she followed up to make sure I was kept informed, and then followed up again once I received the frame to make sure everything was good.

I learnt a few things about Rocky in the process: They owned up, were deeply concerned that things had gone wrong, apologized, and made things right. Based on my experience they are passionate about customer satisfaction, their brand, and their products.

For me they turned around a difficult situation into a positive experience.
  • 73 0
 I’ve had the same experience, twice now. First time I had bought a used 2018 instinct, I over torqued the axle and made it bind. I contacted rocky, told them it was used and it was my fault and just needed the part number. They asked for my address, 2 days later a new axle assembly showed up.

Now, I own an altitude. The finish on the bolt that goes through my ride 9 was wearing away causing a creak. Rocky wanted me to take it to a dealer, so I did. Dealer told me they sent the request to rocky but hadn’t heard back (about 3 weeks later). I contacted rocky asking for any follow up on the dealers request. Rocky told me they have had no warranty requests from that shop in about 3 months. Rocky asked for my address and told me they would fix it. They send me new hardware, 2 new ride 9 bolt, and new ride 9 chips.

I’ve had nothing but good experiences with them.
  • 18 0
 Thanks for the update! I remember reading about this a few times, and it seemed like they weren't treating you well. I'm glad to hear they got it resolved- their initial response made me question if I wanted to get another Rocky in the future. This seems like they handled it well.
  • 10 0
 I had a 3 year old Rocky carbon Vertex that had the bottle cage bosses pull out of the frame. Not only did they send me a brand new frame they also gave me the T.O. custom painted one upon request. Still riding that bike and loving the ride.
  • 18 0
 I manage a bike shop that's an RM dealer, and a story like this makes me stoked. You can all claim bias since I sell their bikes, but I love dealing with the brand whole heartedly. Their customer service always helps out as much as they can and are very reasonable about warranty issues. I did a paint warranty on my own element frame and they really hooked it up quickly.
  • 17 4
 Sadly, I've not had the same experience with RMB. The carbon drops outs on my element de-laminated. RMB denied my warranty and said I rode the bike too hard. Also their warranty is only 5 years. Which is on the short end in the industry.
  • 7 1
 I second and third all of these positive comments. I’ve worked at a longtime Rocky shop, as well as one that started selling Rocky only recently, and all of my experiences have been generally overwhelmingly positive. The crew in North Van cares a lot about making things happen, they’re very passionate about the brand, and they’re just genuinely rad people to interact with. Always A+ in my book.
I’m on my 8th, going on 9th, Rocky in a row in the past 8 years and I couldn’t be happier. The new bikes are lookin’ reeeal good Smile
  • 10 3
 Better check this IP address

/s
  • 6 0
 Thanks - business is not about running a perfect operation, but promptly fixing mistakes when things go off the rails. This IMO is what facilitates repeat customers.
  • 8 1
 Good on you for taking the time to share your positive experience - classy move on your part to follow up after the effort Rocky Mountain made to take care of the quality issue.
  • 5 0
 Love hearing this about brands in the bike industry. I've had a very similar experience with Santa Cruz, and it really does win life long customers when experiences go this way. Hearing this makes Rocky Mountain bikes look a heck of a lot more attractive.
  • 6 0
 I had an Instinct BC Edition that I bought second-hand - one of the bearings in the rear triangle seized and kind of wore a hole in the carbon. Only noticed this when I was getting the bike serviced. I had a month before I was heading off to do Trans Madeira. I contacted Rocky and explained the situation and they shipped me a replacement rear triangle free of charge in time for the race. Amazing customer service in my experience.
  • 2 0
 $15,000 and only 1 bottle holder. What is this world coming to
  • 1 0
 @ThinkTank45: That's impressive - shipping it to you as well.
  • 173 7
 30.6lbs for a Large? It's almost like Rocky understands that weight DOES matter.
  • 66 23
 Hot take: Rocky Mountains are too light.
  • 52 1
 @ethanrevitch: Whatever John Denver
  • 5 2
 @ethanrevitch: I believe the marketing slogan is “Tap the Rockies, Coors Light!”
  • 5 0
 @racecase: "Mr. Sunshine-on-my-god-damn-shoulders, John Denver! Yeah, can you believe it? Replaced my John F_cking Denver!"

Sorry this had nothing to do with the article or your post, except for JD.
  • 1 14
flag flattire (Mar 6, 2024 at 12:20) (Below Threshold)
 30.6lbs without pedals and probably with paper thin tires.
  • 4 11
flag tacopop (Mar 6, 2024 at 13:24) (Below Threshold)
 @flattire: obviously none of us have this bike and can't weigh it, but there are bikes with more travel than this that weigh 28 pounds, so there's nothing particularly unbelievable about a 140mm trail bike weighing 30.
  • 4 0
 @tacopop: this is also the weight for 2 steps down from their top-of-the-line model, which is pretty big. Plus by the same token, there are bikes that have less/the same travel, and 32-33 lbs for the top-of-the-line model isn't considered very heavy, which to me is kind of absurd
  • 3 4
 So overpriced
  • 4 0
 @flattire: name checks out
  • 120 2
 Sensible build kits, smart features, good geometry, no cable tourism.... what in the world?
  • 10 15
flag shredddr (Mar 6, 2024 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 I’m surprised to see the actual seat tube angle is considerably slacker than their claimed effective STA. As a tall guy, I’m out on this bike.
  • 15 1
 @shredddr: most bikes have a much slacker actual seat tube angle than effective... this isn't really new
  • 3 0
 @SeanDRC: some of us are tall. some of us are really tall. some of us are really really tall. This matters more to the really tall and really really tall.
  • 1 0
 @SeanDRC: no it isn't and it writes of those bikes for us too
  • 89 5
 Who here checked the head tube first for cable routing?
  • 10 4
 Very first thing I look at these days lol
  • 33 1
 I certainly do on any bikes I'm considering. Cable Tourism is an automatic purchase disqualification for me.
  • 13 0
 @dmackyaheard: The first thing I checked was the comments to see if any not-Rocky Mountain employees/riders started going on about how great the bike is, and that the colors are really refined, etc.
  • 4 0
 Pretty easy to spot the non-tourism here because that cable port on the HT is HUGE! Rest of the bike looks pretty nice though.
  • 1 0
 @mackster23: LOL! Thanks for the morning laugh.
  • 3 0
 @nickfranko: I'm not in the market for a new bike now, but definitely a disqualification for the next one. Good to see Rocky hasn't lost their minds on this.
  • 2 1
 @WheelNut: @WheelNut: That along with the colours make me cringe a little. Everything else is pretty nice about the builds.
  • 77 7
 I see we're still setting prices ridiculously high so that we can slash them 40-50% later and call it a sale.
  • 30 21
 Rocky seems to be under the impression they're a bespoke brand that can charge prices like Yeti or Pivot. Can't figure out why.
  • 11 9
 @ratedgg13: because people are buying the bikes at the listed price so why not charge what people will pay
  • 36 21
 @ratedgg13: probably because rocky makes some of the best bikes out there and they always have. Don't be so poor fred.
  • 28 1
 @Grady-Harris: check the industry sales numbers. They most certainly are not.
  • 33 3
 @ratedgg13: another question would be why someone might think Yeti or Pivot should be worth more than a Rocky. What tangible difference is there beyond suspension layout?

But I do agree it's pricing with room for discounts, for sure
  • 10 6
 @ratedgg13: They're selling quite fine at their current pricepoints. Sure some go on closeout but Rocky knows exactly where they sit, and yes they're just as good of a brand as yeti or pivot.
  • 18 1
 @ratedgg13: What exactly is bespoke about Yeti or Pivot?
These bikes look great, they are priced similarly to other new bikes, and will come down in price in a year or so, just like everything else....

Good news, you can get stonking good deals on current Instinct, which is prolly the ideal BC "1" bike for most of us.
  • 9 2
 @ratedgg13: why not? the frame quality is great - on par with those brands. This brand won 2 EWS
And pivot?
  • 10 0
 @ratedgg13: I mean the new Norco Sight carbon frame is $4,000 so it's like every brand thinks they're Yeti now.
  • 3 2
 @ratedgg13: they pay the dealers high 30s margins and then it’s their problem. And still, they are less than Yeti.
  • 6 16
flag ratedgg13 FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 8:34) (Below Threshold)
 My comment is based precisely on the fact that I used to ride one. They're fine bikes, but have absolutely nothing special about them. Zero innovation, zero unique characteristics. Fine, but for that kind of price they really should have SOMETHING to set them apart.
  • 18 1
 @ratedgg13: what innovation does pivot have over rocky? Super boost? That’s not even innovative.
  • 4 11
flag ratedgg13 FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 8:41) (Below Threshold)
 @Keegansamonster: dwlink suspension, as opposed to single pivot.
  • 10 3
 @ratedgg13: you mean dw link vs four bar Horst link? Neither of those is more innovative.
  • 6 11
flag ratedgg13 FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 Thanks for the correction, my bad.
I guess I'm just looking at a sea of bikes: Transition Smuggler, Specialized Stumpjumper, Trek Fuel Ex, Canyon Spectral. The Rocky just fails to stand out in any way, and doesn't seem cost competitive for most build kits.
  • 7 1
 @ratedgg13: that’s entirely subjective though. To me, rocky stands out more than the stumpy as I won’t put money into a side loading yoke design with super low leverage ratio. The spectral is meh, can’t compare cost as they are DTC, the frame has no standout features, and can’t even fit a decent sized water bottle. But that’s also all my opinion.
  • 2 3
 @ratedgg13: They have rly great adjustable geometry and they pretty much work and feel great. What's that innovative about Yeti? Infinity link that needs to be serviced, or PIVOT with the most generic DW suspension?
I'm not saying RM is better or others are worse, but it's a small company compared to others, so maybe they can't get their prices that low. Also, DW is a 4-bar suspension as the FSR one. At least Norco and Forbidden designed their thing.
  • 10 1
 @ratedgg13: As opposed to Giant, Santa Cruz, intense, Ibis, that all use dual link suspension designs? Maybe youre confusing visual complexity with innovation.
Rockys suspension execution is among the cleanest in the industry, visually it looks fantastic.

The movement of pivot locations in mm's makes for different ride feel, along with stack, reach, bb height, etc.
Horst link is popular cause it is a cost effective solution for rear bicycle suspension, with acceptable compromises. As is Dual link, and both become part of brand identity
  • 3 2
 This thing starts at $2900USD. Seems pretty sensible...then again I haven't looked at the build kit on that one yet. That is a good entry level price point though.
  • 3 12
flag ratedgg13 FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 10:09) (Below Threshold)
 @onawalk: again, I'm a former multi-time rocky owner and have demoed most of their recent bikes and remain disappointed. I'd take almost any dual link bike over a horst.
  • 4 1
 @Keegansamonster: Your opinion about it being innovative or not aside...I believe Pivot, Ibis, etc. have to license their usage of DW-link so it's going to make them more expensive. Now that may not be worthwhile to you or someone else and that's fine, but it does make them more expensive.
  • 3 1
 @yupstate: I never commented on price, or what drives price. Only that Pivot and since you brought Ibis in, ibis, don’t have any “innovation” over rocky. And, DW link doesn’t drive the price up of current frames, or at least it shouldn’t. 5 companies licensed DW link when it released, only 2 continue to use it. They don’t pay yearly for licensing. They bought into it and get to use it. That should no longer drive the price of their bikes.
  • 6 1
 @ratedgg13: Different courses
I do not get along with dual link bikes.

just because you like dual link bikes (and even saying that points to a lack of innovation on their part ) doesnt make a dual link bike "more innovative" or exciting, or bespoke, its just different, and just as different as a Rocky is from a Transition, or Spesh
  • 6 2
 @ratedgg13: that’s, like, your opinion man.
I hate DW link bikes. They are efficient but you feel it on the descent. Different strokes for different folks.
  • 9 3
 The C30 seems insane at $6K CAD. Deore 12spd I'm fine with (solid and saves money for other components), but a Z2 at that price? For $6239 CAD I can get a Druid Gx AXS. Personally I'd go with the GX FX at $6749 CAD which absolutely kills the C50 at $7K CAD.

That being said, I'm not sure I know anyone that has ever paid retail for a RM. Local shop often has crazy sales on them and if you rub your chin looking at one they'll immediately offer 10% off.
  • 8 1
 @eh-steve: I mean you’re comparing value of a bike with a sale price to MSRP of another. That’s not exactly fair right at the release. People paid $9,000 CAD for the build you’re talking about when the Druid released. A $2k CAD jump at MSRP is a pretty massive difference.
  • 4 4
 @Keegansamonster: well seems like a lot of people are down voting me for having an opinion.
  • 9 1
 @ratedgg13: I think it was mainly because of your first statement about innovation, rather than just having an opinion. But also, welcome to pinkbike, people are pretty opinionated around here lol.
  • 2 2
 @ratedgg13: I have a Pivot and Rocky. Rocky doesn't do as much with custom suspension but it's a super refined, excellent bike. I think it is in the same caliber. I love my Altitude. Also, new Altitude looks to be VPP-esque.
  • 3 1
 @Keegansamonster: I thought Pivot or anyone else using DW usually meets with Dave Weagle when creating a new model and goes through the plan for the bike, intended use, specific layout, intended leverage curves, etc. and they come up with a plan? I'm not claiming to be an expert but I'd bet Pivot or other brands licensing DW would say it's still driving their prices up. Again, if you don't find that innovative then those are not the brands for you; for sure.
  • 4 2
 @ratedgg13: Ride 9 or Ride 4 are unique.
  • 2 8
flag BLAZINDAYZ (Mar 6, 2024 at 12:03) (Below Threshold)
 @AndrewHornor: Warranty for one. RMB warranty and customer service is lacking compared to Pivot.
  • 1 0
 @Grady-Harris: The bike shop in calgary had fleets of every 2023 RM bike before that massive sale this winter. like 20 alititudes, 20 instincts, and 20 elements. This was just the downtown location.
  • 1 0
 Right past nosebleed and straight to cerebral oedema.
  • 2 4
 @Keegansamonster: Sale price? That's current msrp of a v2 not a temp sale. Msrp vs msrp.

RM has always been a poor value proposition at msrp. Look at the new Optic builds compared to this. Norco is better value and I'd argue Norco has a better track record (*cough cough* alloy frame recall).
  • 2 1
 @eh-steve: that’s not what the forbidden website shows me. It shows me the MSRP and a sale price. It may be a long term/permanent sale price but it’s still not MSRP. When it came out it was at $9k cad
  • 1 1
 @Keegansamonster: The main druid page doesn't show a sale price.. shop does. That's the confusion.
  • 3 0
 @AndrewHornor: Yetis are turquoise, worth at least 20% up charge over an equivalent brown Rocky.
  • 3 0
 @eh-steve: Give it a year, youre comparing a year old bike with a bike that came out today. The Instinct is also prolly 5 lbs lighter than the GX FX build, and is likely a more efficient feeling pedalling bike.
Both bikes are cool, and thats cool for all us.
  • 1 0
 @Keegansamonster: Thats very true,
When the Druid first came out, I thought, well the CFO will never sign off on that.

But now, well lets just say theres a box waiting at the bike shop for me
  • 1 0
 @eh-steve: Nah, the MSRP of the V2 was astonshingly high when it first came out, and it was select + suspension and such
  • 1 1
 It doesn't seem like there would be much of a market for $10.5K USD MTB's in 2024. Even at 40% off they might be turning a profit.
  • 4 0
 @catamplifier: While I don't disagree that Rocky makes great bikes, I feel like it should be said that Jesse Melamed would of won on a Pivot, or a Canyon...or whatever bike he may have been riding. Just because a brand has won some races definitely doesn't define the bike as any better than a bike that didn't have the same talent on board.
  • 2 1
 @ratedgg13: The pricing does help out with that quiver-killer claim. At these prices, you can't AFFORD a quiver after you buy this bike...
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: yep, that's why I didn't immediately swap 1 to 2. But when deciding on what bike to buy today I'm looking at what's on the market today, not just brand new designs. Maybe the Fluid carbon is a fairer comparison (as the non-high-pivot optic is end-of-life). Last year's Optic tho.. super nice bike, it's on sale...
  • 2 0
 @eh-steve: I wholly agree, when looking to buy a bike, we are all going to compare whats available in the moment.
But when we are talking relative "value" comaprisons, an argument can be made that a 10 year old bike is perfectly acceptable, and will return more smiles for price than anything, even on sale.

So we can agree, the Druid at time of release was eye wateringly expensive (even more than the release price of the WAO Arrival)
  • 2 1
 @onawalk: it's still new off the showroom floor vs new off the showroom floor.

I definitely agree the Druid at release was crazy expensive. So was the V1 Dread (9K for the XT build iirc).

But if I walk into my LBB today and see this RM sitting beside a 2023 Sight C1 for under 7K or a Ripley SLX (with Fox Factory) for just over 7K, SC Bronson GX for $6.5K I doubt I'm choosing the RM. If anything I'm choosing the prev season RM. There's nothign about this bike that screams, "Take my CC!"
  • 1 1
 @eh-steve: Sure,
If YOU do, and thats cool, thats why its great that theres loads of choice out there.
Theres really nothing about many new bikes that scream "take my money" theres always going to be a better value out there than the day old bike that came out.
In a year you'll be saying the same thing about the Santa Cruz Nomad.

Hot take, your opinion is also nothing new, its said about every friggin new bike that comes along. So youre neither right or wrong, and thats fine
  • 37 1
 I love it, especially that peepee/poopoo colorway.
  • 24 0
 Interesting photo from the Alloy 30… never seen press release photo with a compressed shock.
Anyway, nice looking bikes.
  • 2 49
flag Baciatutti FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 7:39) (Below Threshold)
 That's just how the bike settles after a couple of rides. Horst link bikes like these or Specializeds sag into travel on the climbs and don't extend back. If you are over 6' tall, you end up using the lockout a lot.
  • 3 2
 Aired out for pics like a bagged Golf
#ridelowparklower
  • 8 0
 Maybe wrong shock lenght was mounted #axmanenterprise
  • 1 1
 The picture of this awful burned chinese Shimano rotor makes my eyes bleed.
  • 2 0
 @lightone: that looks to be the case. The shaft and body of the shock on the alloy 30 are both considerably shorter than what is mounted on the other bikes. And the shock is definitely not sagged as you can clearly see the sag markings on the shaft.
  • 4 0
 You can see the sag lines on the shock, so not compressed, I'm guess wrong shock length.
  • 3 1
 like their photo on their website? i think that the a30 picture is of an xs bike. the XS rocky's always had that bend/kink in the top tube. so..looks normal to me.
  • 2 0
 @danstonQ: Correct me if I’m wrong, but Shimano manufactures in Taiwan and Malaysia, not China.
  • 2 0
 @sfarnum: Japan and Malaysia, almost always Japan for deore and up.
  • 1 0
 @benpinnick: Oh I’m a dummy, meant to say Japan not Taiwan.
  • 11 1
 ~30 lbs weight, in frame storage, no cable tourism, and adjustable reach ... Rocky has nailed it!
Now only if they could reach adjust their pricing....
  • 1 0
 Just bargain with your local shop. With the bike market so saturated, shops are willing to go below retail even on a new bike.
  • 6 0
 I've got a 2020 Instinct C70 with a bunch of silly things done to it. Longer fork and coil shock to get it to a 160/155 "BC Edition", -2 deg angleset. Should be around 64.5 HTA and 75 STA now. Still weighs 31 lbs with decent tires.

If I was forced to replace that bike, I'd certainly entertain this new Instinct. I dig the geo changes, the availability of a Grip2 36, and the fact that they kept the weight in check. My only quibble is the sizing is a bit bigger, my preferred fit is now right between the Medium and Large, whereas the 2020 Large fits perfectly.
  • 7 0
 Is it just me or does the alloy version actually look a bit better than the carbon? The ht looks a little less strange to me
  • 1 1
 Alloy looks like the old instinct. Head tube looks more normal because it doesn’t have geometry adjust.
  • 2 0
 @Keegansamonster: Have a '21 alloy instinct, was bummed they had excluded the shock (altitude) mount swap option from that gen alloy models, figured they likely did the same for the reach adjust on this new alloy, but looking at the alloy models on rockys site, They do indeed have the headset adjust cups. Win! Just difference of carbon mold vs traditional alloy headtube I guess.
  • 4 0
 @Keegansamonster: The alloy frames also have reach adjust cups, although these are round and pressed in, so different than the carbon frame.
  • 2 0
 Yes, considerably. The proportions of the alloy frame are much nicer. More even, more consistent.
  • 10 7
 63.5 degrees head angle? geometries are going too far now. This is supposed to be a mid travel all mountain bike not an enduro bike made for the steepest trails. Too much for the kind of trails were you normally would want to ride this bike.
  • 7 2
 First thing I thought of. Saw it was 63.5 and was like "is this now a 170mm bike?". Nope still 140. I have to assume the use case for this bike is pretty narrow.
  • 5 6
 Perfect head angle for this style of bike IMO. The old bike was too steep. Different flavors for different folks.
  • 6 4
 Great news! According to the article, the head angle is adjustable.
  • 7 1
 @vitaflo: feeling the same. But never tried so do not really know.
Even with all this flip chips, the highest angle is 64.3 that seems still slack for a mud travel bike.
I guess it must be hard to manage on slow, tight hairpins up and down (nose turns)?
  • 2 3
 Good job only basing your opinion off of the slack position on the geo chart. Put it in the slack and the head angle is 64.3. Even more so, definitely not unheard of to shorten your front travel to 140 to put it around 65.
  • 6 0
 @hi-dr-nick: even in the steep mode at sub 64.5, still very slack for a bike like this IMO. I guess it all depends on where you ride but if you ride very steep and technical trails I think you'd be better off with a full on enduro bike.
  • 3 1
 my elements at 65 as an xc bike. so this had to be slacker?
  • 1 0
 @solarplex: steeper
  • 1 0
 What about that 44mm bbd too? That has to be a pedal smasher...no?
  • 3 2
 @desertfox2: Great news! According to the article, the bottom bracket drop is adjustable, too.
  • 3 0
 @desertfox2: I put a smaller crank on mine for that. then i got a longer dropper as i had to lift my seat up, then i got taller bars as my seat was higher.

hashtagworthit
  • 3 0
 Luckily theres a tonne of choice out there, so if this doesnt float your boat, a Revel Rascal might, or SB 120, or any number of other options.
I think its great to have options in the trail bike category, from slacker things like this, to bikes like the Ari Delano Peak.
This bike looks to be like the near perfect BC "1" bike, especially when you add a stout 160 fork.

And you could swap a 140 fork on, and correct HA to accommodate. Just remember there are those of us that live and ride in spicy areas that we have to pedal too, these types of bikes are built for that
  • 5 0
 Is there a flip chip to store ground beef in frame storage? Asking for a friend..
  • 9 0
 the Meat Locker.
  • 6 4
 That black/red number looks fantastic. Also, a Dissector/Assegai combo on this bike would be perfect. I've gone to that on my long travel bike and it has been a really good combo for rolling resistance in the rear and traction up front.
  • 1 0
 Any experience with flight attendant?
  • 11 1
 dissectors are rubbish for lifespan. great for grip but will not buy again imo!
  • 5 0
 @lone-ranger: I second this, the side lugs peel off immediately, but I run one in the front of my lighter duty trail bike and the thing works perfectly for my conditions, so I'll just keep throwing 3 new fronts every 2 years at it until I find something I like as much.
  • 1 0
 Can confirm for tire combo, The dissector actually has too much grip for me, until its half worn down, then it gets a little looser. Loose like the Lion....................IYKYK
  • 1 0
 @lone-ranger: The Dissector has too much grip for me when new (high sided myself at least twice when I first put it on) I prefer it more than half worn, its so predictable, and lets loose just when i want/need, it makes me smile on every ride.
Admittedly my preferred operating window is very small, it goes from too much, to just right, to absolute zero very quickly, but it at least is consistent along that progression. I go through 2 a season, but I just love it!
  • 8 0
 @onawalk: ".... operating window is very small, it goes from too much, to just right, to absolute zero very quickly, but it at least is consistent along that progression."

So basically it's the avocado of mountain bike tires.
  • 1 1
 @gmiller720: I have Flight Attendant on my Norco Sight. It's bloody amazing. I can't seem to find fault with it. It does everything I would do, but instantly.
  • 3 0
 @WayneParsons: Thats really interesting to hear,
I dont think I know anyone running FA, so I've heard no rider input/review.

If you have time, write us a paragraph about your views

I'll buy you a beer for your time
  • 1 0
 @WayneParsons: Sweet
Stoked for a good read tonight

Thank you

Was hoping you were more of an everyday man, but i'll get into it
  • 2 1
 @onawalk: Flight Attendant is amazing. I have spent many hours running repeat laps testing all the various settings available including turning it off and running a direct comparison with non Flight Attendant Ultimate equivalents and it just hands down does a better job of managing the ride for you.

On the climbs it saves time or energy depending on one's focus. Leaving more energy for the downs.
As @WayneParsons states it is already in the mode you would choose before you decide to choose it. You can adjust the bias to suit your riding or the ride.

My 2020 Sight was already an excellent bike and the Lyrik/ SDLX Ult and then Zeb/ SDLX Ult Flight Attendant just made it even better.

The only 'weakness' over the non Flight Attendant Ultimate equivalents is the inability to make changes to HSC on the trail. But to be fair this is something that probably only the very best riders would want to/ need to do anyway as they are chasing split seconds on the clock when racing.
  • 1 0
 @lone-ranger: Same experience on a Dissector. Really like it...while it lasted. Back to an Aggressor on the rear for both my trail and Enduro bikes
  • 2 0
 Really liked that combo too but would go through a Dissector way too quick (almoat 3 MaxxTerra rears for 1 MaxxGrip Assegai up front). Swapped the rear to a Conti Enduro Soft Xynotal and lasts way longer/more grip and rolls just as fast + wears much better.
  • 2 0
 @lennskii: The Xyno softs run just as fast as a Dissector EXO+ Maxxterra???
  • 2 0
 @onawalk: I tested Flight Attendant and did not like it at all. It does what it says on the tin, but the constant Zip-zip of the actuator drove me crazy (I like a silent bike). To me, the marginal gains were not worth the noise and the price.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: I could see how the sounds of the motor would drive one mad. I don't mind it. I thought I wouldn't like it and had planned on selling it before I rode the bike, but it turned out that I loved how intuitive it was.
  • 2 0
 @andrewbikeguide: Shut your damn mouth!
Both you and @WayneParsons: can frig right off with your "its amazing" review

The last thing I need is to be looking at FA stuff with lust in my heart........Jesus Wept, cocaine is a cheaper addiction
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: I cant hear a damn thing over my own gasps for life on the climbs, and I'm too busy while descending keeping rubber side down to hear a zip zip noise. Hell, I'm too busy hooting and hollering for anyone to hear much of anything.

How the hell can you guys climb for an hour and hear an idler, or zip zip from a fork or der over your own breathing?
  • 2 0
 @WayneParsons: Hey Wayne,
theres no way the sounds dont drive you crazy,
in fact, lean a little heavier into your luddite ways, and let me know when its for sale.....Wink
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: If you can't hear it, you're lucky I guess. Hearing an idler gets in my head because I think it's sapping my energy (even if it doesn't). But the sounds of the FA drove me crazy.
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: (Anecdotal is always a bit flawed but...) I ride in mainly dry loose/hard conditions and like a rear tyre to break loose when I want it too. The knobs are wider but much more ramped than the Dissector (so doesn't start to undercut after 3-4 rides).The casing is a little stiffer (I'd say a nudge above an EXO+ but not DD).

A Xynotal (Enduro Soft) is a better Dissector (way more durable, talking 2-3x more, more traction, on par rolling, 20% cheaper but weighs ~150grams more).
  • 1 0
 @lennskii: I love the operating window of a half worn Dissector, how does the Xynotal feel when breaking loose?
Is it predictable? is it easy to get loose?
is there a comparable to the Assegai (my vanity triggers if I try to run different tires)
Tried a set of Schwalbe Big Betty, Magic Mary, did not like on hard pack, felt too squirmy on hard pack, but great in loamy soft soil.
  • 1 0
 @lennskii: have you run it as a front tire?
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: hahaha maybe soon!

FYI, the system opens up as soon as the bike is pointed downhill, so no motor sounds. Only climbing and flat ground.
  • 1 0
 @lennskii: Thanks for this. Very helpful. If you've tried a dhr2, can you compare the two?
  • 2 0
 @WayneParsons: Cool

You should defintly get rid of it, I hear its pure garbage, and wayyyy noisy
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: Yes very predictable. The difference is like a DHF to an Assegai, though not quite as dramatic (the Dissector has a notable empty channel, like the DHF, between the center and side knobs). It is easy enough to get loose and has plenty of support/not squirmy as the lnobs are broad and supported rather than super tall. (which is why run it for the majority of my riding).

The Kryptotal-F is probably the Assegai competitor from Conti (I'm currently running the Xynotal Enduro Soft Rear x Assegai EXO+ MaxxGrip front, will chuck on the Kryptotal-F Enduro Soft up front when it's worn).

Wish they made the Kryptotal-F in Super Soft (only availiable in DH casing) but from touch it's a touch softer than a MaxxTerra which is fine by me (not that wet here in my part of Aus + MaxxGrip compunds have a relatively short life anyway).
  • 2 0
 @dirtbaggraeme: I haven't (as I'm a one MTB at a time guy and it's always in a all-mountain/enduro flavour).

I wouldn't have hesitation running it up front on a trail bike though as the Xynotal doesn't have that empty channel between the center and side knobs like the Disssector.

Only downside is on a light trail bike, your only option for a softer compound on the front would be an Enduro casing and up (lightest Trail casing only comes in their Endurance compound which I'd only use on the rear).

Weights (and proportionally casing thickness) is (from feel): Trail (between EXO and EXO+), Enduro (between EXO+ and DD) and DH (between DD and DH).
  • 3 0
 @rrolly: Yep, ran DHR II for years. DHR II brakes better in a straight line but rolls noticably slower. Cornering I'd say comparable (for where I live, mostly dry/loose over hard) but I this would be a different story if you're riding mostly in loam/wet (as your can't get around a DHR II having taller knobs).

If I rode mostly in loam/damper/softer conditions I'd probably go a Kryptotal-R on the back which rolls a bit faster than a DHR II and a touch less straight line braking bite.
  • 2 0
 @lennskii: Interesting,
I have a buddy who swears by the new Conti's as well, but we have vastly different riding styles. He is much more precise, and prefers grip. I prefer, loose, and on the very edge of eating $hit.

prevailing terrain here is loose over hard, much like I would expect in Aus, but I travel with my bike a lot, so I've gotten used to sometimes tires being good, sometims not so good.

Maybe I'll give some Contis a go when this Disseector inevitably wears down to the belts.
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: Profile says your from Kelowna. How much damage did Smith Creek suffer from the fires?
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Smith Creek not so much,
Rose Valley is in shambles.
Theres a local raffle from Smith Creek cycle to refurbish the trails. Great chance to get a super cool Deviate Highlander, well specd, and help out the trail society.

trellis.org/rosevalley?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=campaign&_kx=uo9eLo9j_3MR-zNblE2v1y5UQMNWzGl5RErcNruKwIyGDEpGKUiyiZK6ydz4Y6E2.XcctXv

If you know Brian from Smith Creek Cycle, hes a pretty incredible guy, way too humble, smart, and has a spectacular shop. One of the best deep voices you'll ever hear as well!

I snuck a ride in in December, trails were frozen, but no snow, was so foggy, you couldnt see 10' in front of you. It was like riding on the moon, everything was black, huge holes in the ground where trees burnt through the roots, and not a single sound, not a bird chirp, no cars, no people, it was an incredible ride.

If you come to town let me know, I'll buy you a beer, and ride bikes
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: Ya, I stopped in to SMC last June when I was in town to ride Smith Creek. Super nice guys in there.
Thanks for the raffle info and the offer. Will let you know when I'm in town next.

Cheers
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Next time youre in town
check out Sovereign and Chainline bikes as well, awesome guys, good selection, cool shops.

Smith Creek Cycle, Some seriously cool stuff in there!

Also, Smith creek has some good trails, if you want some puckeringly spicy stuff, Gillard is really good. New climb trail, big road gaps, some steep jank, and lots of stuff in between!
  • 6 0
 would have loved to see a higher-end spec on the alloy version
  • 4 1
 In frame storage thank you. Pretty crazy that Specialized has been doing in frame storage for coming up on 8 years now and many brands either don't have it or are just now getting it, but I'll take it!
  • 5 2
 Great looking bike, good build kits, good geo, horribly inflated pricing and meh colorways. C70 looks pretty much like a sweet spot for kit, just not at $6500. Needs to be $1500 less.
  • 2 0
 I like they narrowed down the Ride 9 to Ride 4. There were only TWO settings i liked on my last instinct. Zero reason yo have that many choices. Still, badass frames. Love the new penalty box, why i sold my 23' instinct, zero storage. And then i bought a Yeti....with zero storage lol
  • 4 0
 "Penalty box" - well done Rocky Mountain bikes. Staying true to some Canadian hockey heritage. Good move on the airtag holder as well.
  • 3 0
 I have the 2021 Instinct and it's an incredible bike. This looks like a great upgrade, but I probably won't be changing bikes for a while.
  • 7 0
 just get a -2 or -1 angleset from Works or Wolftooth and call it a day Smile
  • 1 0
 Love my 2021 A30. I've upgraded it a little but plan on having it for a while.
  • 3 0
 Is there still an option to run a longer shock for 150mm of rear travel?

Love everything here except the funky head tube shaping…
  • 3 0
 Yep, the C99 build level does just that, it's basically the new BC Edition.
  • 16 15
 Meh. Different strokes and all, but to me this new bike is:
- barely different in geometry (you could accomplish something close to this on the last bike with a bit of creativity)
- loses customization - gone are instinct/altitude frame swapping ability
- less pretty, subjective of course
- not 20% off like the current one.
  • 4 0
 Yeah the ability to go from altitude, altitude mx, and instinct was a massive draw towards me getting a carbon altitude. The new altitude is going to be a completely different frame now too.
  • 5 3
 @j-t-g : Did you miss the part about all the geometry adjustments? Sure, you can't swap a rear end, but this has some nice options.
  • 12 1
 @Keegansamonster:
I guarantee like 1% of people actually took advantage of that fact. You’re for sure in the tiny minority.
  • 2 2
 @notthatfast: I don’t think you can guarantee that. Check the instinct/altitude owners group on Facebook. It’s littered with people that swap between the two setups.
  • 6 2
 @Keegansamonster:
That group is also likely a very small percentage of riders. You realize the majority of people aren’t as nerdy as us right? Most people just buy a bike and ride it.
  • 1 1
 @motts: no. You gain reach adjust, you lose angleset compatability. And you lose the ability to long shock it by removing spacers.
  • 2 0
 Ye, I've got an Altitude, and it's pretty much my MX geometry M size build with a -1 Works angle headset I'm bummed they didn't go with 5mm chainstay adjustment. I would like to have 437-443 for M instead of 448 which feels rly huge for me
  • 5 3
 @Keegansamonster: still probably less than 1%. I work at a Rocky dealer. We probably sold 30 of those bikes and 1 person bumped up travel on his instinct.
  • 7 1
 @Superboost: your grade school math teacher would like to remind you that 1/30 > 3%
  • 1 0
 @catamplifier: How is your Altitude for climbing with the -1 headset? Debating on doing that with mine which is also setup MX.
  • 1 0
 @Cmzmyers: it's kind of ok, but I don't have insane steeps. Long chainstays help a lot in that regard. I'd say it affects the climbing more than the -1. I run it in position 5 (neutral), so I get about 0.7 degree from -1 angleset. The geo is 64.2 HTA and 15mm bb drop - works for me. I'm keen to machine the middle chainstay flipchip, but not that easy to find where to do that here Smile
  • 4 0
 @j-t-g: C99 model has the 210X55mm shock (and 160mm fork), it's possible.
  • 1 0
 @catamplifier: I’ve yet to run my chain stay in the long setting. Recommend? Where I live it’s short punchy steeps so I’m sure I can manage with some additional slackness in the HT. I also run mine in position 5. I’m going to Whistler this summer so will likely drop it down for park days.
  • 1 0
 @tacopop: bet you’re fun at parties lol
  • 1 0
 @Cmzmyers: You just have to try it. It feels like being a bit more being pushed to the front, more front grip, better rear tracking, but it sucks in 90 degree sharp corners. I mean... if you like to roost corners, it becomes harder. I also was wondering what it's like, then I just switched and tried it. Dunno why, but I immediately wanted a higher rise bar with the longer CS. But I think if you go with the angle headset, it fits it just right. I usually set short CS on local tracks which are more trail-like and swap to long CS in bike parks.
  • 1 0
 @tacopop: Lmfao okay so less than 1% globally then? But 3% in my small world. I really hope my grade school math teacher doesn’t see this.
  • 4 0
 Why is the Instinct Alloy 30 so sagged?
  • 11 1
 It looks like someone forgot to air up the shock before shooting that one.
  • 9 0
 @mikekazimer: I think it's a bespoke build for folks in the Carolinas ... they like their rigs to squat in the back.
  • 5 0
 @tipsword: You beat me to it!

Can we refer to the A30 build as the "Carolina Squat" build?
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: It has the wrong sized shock mounted it. Compare the length of the air can in both photos.

Not the kind of attention to detail you expect from a premium brand.

Edit: Whoops, looks like this has already been pointed out.
  • 2 0
 @boozed: Hard No,
Carolina Squat model!
Provides a sensation of speed at green groomer levels of exposure. Thats why its on the A30 model, for beginners obviously.
  • 4 1
 Nice update @RockyMountainBicycles but when is the new Altitude dropping!!!!
  • 5 0
 Looks like an Ari
  • 1 1
 Photos suggest all models have a single leg forks too! Smart of them to make it a "Righty" so Cannondale can't sue. On the the Red and Black model I see they've even included a left leg fork crown incase you want the option of running two legs!
  • 4 1
 Really nice looking bike. Nice work Rocky. My Element has been perfection.
  • 2 0
 That first picture has to be photoshopped. There is no stick holding from falling over.
  • 1 0
 Very clearly they removed the human holding it up.
  • 5 1
 no mullet?
  • 4 0
 It’s got a meat locker
  • 2 0
 Sharp looking Rig. I haven't always been a fan of RM colorways but I like these ones ones.
  • 1 0
 New instinct is sick but why would you buy it when there’s crazy deals on altitudes like this: m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3819175
  • 1 0
 excellent deal
  • 2 0
 Thank you for the two-paragraph intro criticizing Rocky's marketing terminology.
  • 3 0
 Curious to see someone slap on a 160mm fork on the bike.
  • 1 0
 Interesting, the lowest model has 11 speed cues drivetrain. I wonder how good that is?
  • 15 0
 I'd absolutely take it over the low end eagle stuff.
  • 6 0
 I'd actually prefer that over anything 12 speed. My Deore 11 speed drivetrains have been amazing. $60 cassettes, $40 derailleurs. Can't really beat it on cost/value.
  • 5 0
 @RobKong: too bad it's paired with a Rockshox RL...
  • 1 0
 @schili: used lyrik ultimate from buysell, less than $300
  • 2 0
 @RobKong: One shop I know won't even stock bikes that come with SX because they think it is so inferior. I had a 10 speed deore drivetrain in 2020 that worked perfectly so I am optimistic that cues works similar.
  • 7 7
 I came to see if Rocky had steered away from pressfit bottom brackets yet. Looks like they are still pressfit. I thought we had declared pressfit BB’s dead?!?!
  • 1 0
 Axs seatposts - at first glance, I still think thats a rolled up inner tube
  • 1 2
 That C50 build is a great spec. Sure, suspension could be better, but dampers won't break the bank, and the price is quite good, a real "run what you brung" spec. Great to see.
  • 2 0
 Their C50's are always the best bargain from their lineup. Mostly XT drivetrain anyway and you can upgrade suspension for less than the difference of what it costs for the C70.
  • 1 0
 @hi-dr-nick: On the old altitude you lost the X2 in favor of a float X at that build level, pretty problematic change in my mind. They used to spec slx shifters too, which seems like weird choice. it's nice to see the SLX brakes here too. For my preferences, this is the first C50 that's truly good to go off the show floor, no upgrades or changes necessary (except for maybe a damper upgrade down the road on the lyric).
  • 1 0
 "The new headtube shape helps the Instinct stand out from the crown" pun intended?
  • 3 1
 Fanatik getting ready for another “what’s in the box” video.
  • 1 0
 In other news: you might see Kaz trailside, gnawing on an entire summer sausage while testing bikes.
  • 1 0
 I mean, who isn't down for a pouch that they can stuff a sausage in?

Get someone to stuff some cheese, crackers, and a bladder of wine and you've got the charcuterie crew (50:01, watch out)
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer Can you share why SRAM Transmission is only able to be used in one chainstay setting on this bike?
  • 1 0
 Shape of the chain stay. It’s the same with the current altitude/instinct. No room for it to attach in the short setting.
  • 2 0
 Unfortunate that the drivetrain selection can impose limits on the bike's geo capability.
  • 6 0
 UDH and the SRAM Transmission don't place nice with adjustable dropouts. Most manufacturers with adjustable chainstay lengths did away with that feature entirely when SRAM Transmission came out. At least Rocky still offers it on this bike. No one is forcing anyone to run a Transmission derailleur, so customers can still have adjustable chainstay length if they want it.
  • 2 1
 Love my frame storage. But comes at the cost of a beefy downtube and people asking if I’m riding an E-bike.
  • 2 0
 Threaded or press fit BB?
  • 2 0
 PF SMH
  • 1 0
 Where the hell is the new Altitude you shot spy shots of awhile back? Let’s go pinkbike!
  • 1 0
 someone finally figured out how to make a down-swooping headtube junction look good. Bravo!!
  • 2 0
 Big fan of the adjustable stays and headset cup
  • 1 0
 What's the logic to not selling small frames with 29 inch wheels ? Stubborn f*cks !
  • 2 0
 Size small is available in both 29" and 27.5". Only XS is exclusively 27.5
  • 2 0
 my ex girlfriend (slightly under 1.60m) was overwhelmed by 29". i think for small people 27,5 is almost always the right decision Smile
  • 1 0
 @Tiefkuehlpizza: I'm 1.47m and I love my 29" wheels. I hate 27.5. It's all personal preference.
  • 1 0
 Can we not do these geometry charts with the abbreviated metrics and no key?
  • 1 0
 Road the new Instict at Sedona MTB Festival, it's the real deal! She cleans everything you throw at it. A+++
  • 2 2
 Checked color selection first, then headset. Got to at least look the part.
  • 6 0
 The colors are seriously lacking. I feel like I'm looking through a Benjamin Moore catalog.
  • 2 0
 @cinco: 100% very dull.
  • 1 0
 Okay, but where's the Altitude?
  • 3 1
 Extreme meh
  • 2 1
 Shouldn't every new trail bike automatically come with a bash guard ?
  • 2 1
 no, Only DH bikes should and it shouldnt be attahced to frame tabs.
  • 2 3
 someone smart please explain to me why a $10k bike can be slashed to $6500 after a few years on the shelf. thanks in advance.
  • 3 0
 ? Because there's no law saying they can't. It's a free country. If you want to sell your bike for a bag of day old donuts, that's your right.

A bike company will set the sale price of old stock to whatever number they think will get it out the door. If that one doesn't work they'll try a lower number. It would be insane to just keep them forever.
  • 6 5
 Its 2024 why are we still using press fit bottom brackets?
  • 1 0
 The intersection of that seat tube/head tube looks like a built in fender
  • 3 3
 In before the recall (I'm bitter I lost the sweet paint job on my alloy BC Instinct to the recall).
  • 2 1
 This looks like a fun bike.
  • 1 0
 Sweet lineup. Can’t wait to get a ride on one.
  • 1 0
 Damn they've got the domain bikes.com, nice
  • 5 7
 I remember a week ago when Norco release their's prices on sight and optic and everybody went banana. And yet no one talking price with Rocky
  • 28 0
 That’s because Norco made a massive jump in their prices. Rocky went DOWN on their prices a fair bit while keeping the same build kits but adding more frame features. The C90 dropped $800 usd, c70 dropped $500 usd, and the c50 dropped $200 usd.

Norco added a high pivot and jumped prices $1,100 usd on the sight C1.
  • 1 5
flag inonyme FL (Mar 6, 2024 at 13:40) (Below Threshold)
 @Keegansamonster: I wrote about the readers reaction, I did not comment on the price of those bikes . They both par on prices/models lineup btw. One focusing on weight with XO bling and china carbon and the other rewarding the rider with better suspension, brakes, hub, and tires
But you seem to be happy that Rocky lower their prices, cant be agains that!
  • 3 1
 @inonyme: China carbon? Care to explain? Also your only comment was about price. I explained to you why the commenters lost their mind on Norco and not on rocky….
  • 3 4
 Exciting stuff! Great brand with great goal and aspirations - DefinitelyNotKatyBond99
  • 7 7
 Hideous paint jobs, surprised rocky gets a pass here.
  • 4 1
 You don't like the pee pee yellow and poo pop brown colour?!?!?!
  • 1 0
 Agree, not purdy and will not age well.
  • 1 1
 wtf are those price, even pricier than Santa cruz ahaha
  • 1 0
 Bikes
  • 2 3
 Why are there no high end Rockshox builds on their site?
  • 1 0
 RM is predominantly a Fox/Shimano spec brand.
  • 2 0
 The C99 & C70 are offered with Rockshox suspension.
  • 7 7
 Looks like an e-bike
  • 1 0
 Hardly uncommon these days that a downtube will be thick on an analog bike. This isn't the only bike on the market with frame storage.
  • 3 0
 @CYCOlogist818: Just my personal preference. Downtube looks a bit too square and not a fan of where it goes horizontal in front of the cranks (i.e. not far off being able to squeeze a battery and motor in that shape of front triangle...)
  • 4 4
 i love the color
  • 1 1
 Wheelbase is too long
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