First Ride: The 2020 Specialized Enduro is Bigger & Burlier Than Ever

Aug 12, 2019 at 11:30
by Mike Kazimer  


The Specialized Enduro is entering its second decade in existence, a time period that's seen it morph from an overgrown XC bike into the gravity-oriented, big wheeled trail smasher that it is today. The 2020 model has received a complete overhaul, and now bears more than a passing resemblance to the current Demo downhill bike.

Speed was the overall focus behind this project, and for that reason the Enduro is only available with 29” wheels, in a total of four sizes. There's also no aluminum version in the lineup, at least for now - according to Specialized, that's because they "wanted to create the lightest, most bad-assed bike in this genre." There might not be an alloy version, but going with carbon does mean all frames get a gummy bear compartment in the form of Specialized's SWAT box down tube storage system.
Specialized Enduro Details

• Wheel size: 29"
• Travel: 170mm front and rear
• Carbon frame
• 63.9° or 64.3° head angle
• 442mm chainstays
• Threaded bottom bracket
• SWAT box
• Sizes: S2, S3, S4, S5
• Weight (Expert Elite, S4): 32.7 lb / 14.8 kg
• Price: $4,510 - $9,750 USD
• S-Works frame only: $3,310 USD
www.specialized.com

There are four complete bikes available, beginning with the $4,510 Enduro Comp 29, and going all the way up to $9,750 S-Works version. The S-Works frame uses carbon rocker links rather than the alloy links found on the other models, which saves 250 grams. That frame alone retails for $3,310 USD.




Frame Details & Suspension Design

The overall look of the Enduro remained relatively unchanged for the last three years, and going even further back, that X-Wing frame design first showed up on the 2010 Enduro. That's all in the past, and the new Enduro now has a completely different suspension layout. It's basically a slightly shorter travel, carbon fiber version of the Demo 29 downhill bike, with the added benefit of room for a water bottle and snack storage.

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specialized enduro 2020

specialized enduro 2020
There's room for a water bottle, and in-frame storage for snacks and other supplies.
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Specialized's chainstay protector works very well at keeping any unwanted noise at bay.

The Enduro still uses a Horst link design, with the chainstay pivot located below the rear axle, but Specialized moved the shock lower in the frame and shifted the main pivot location to accomplish several design goals. Those goals included improving the bikes momentum carry (the way that it carries speed through rough sections of trail), increasing the amount of anti-squat, and increasing the amount of progression. Those three goals could have potentially been accomplished using the prior frame design, but the bike would have had a higher standover and center of gravity than Specialized's designers wanted.

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specialized enduro 2020

The Enduro's anti-squat value has increased by 40%, a step that was taken to improve the bike's pedaling efficiency. It may be a long travel beast of a bike, but it's still meant to be pedaled when there aren't any chairlifts or shuttle trucks nearby.

As illustrated by the chart above, the leverage curve is more progressive, and no longer flattens out at the end of the travel. This is a welcome change, and should mean that air shocks won't need to be completely filled with volume spacers in order to prevent the bike from bottoming out on bigger hits. There aren't any coil shock equipped models in the lineup - a Fox Float X2 or a RockShox Super Deluxe take care of the rear suspension duties - but the more progressive leverage curve makes running a coil a viable option.

Along with the changes to the Enduro's kinematics, the bike's rear-end stiffness was increased by a claimed 12% compared to the previous version. The front triangle stiffness remains the same - there wasn't any need to make that section any stiffer.

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One of the aluminum mules used during the development of the new Enduro.
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Specialized has their own in-house test fixtures that are used to evaluate frames before they go to production.


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Geometry

The new Demo may have a limited size range, but that's not the case with the new Enduro. Specialized have gone with the same 'S' sizing system used on the Stumpjumper EVO – the idea is that riders can choose their bike based on the reach rather than seat tube length. Short seat tube heights proved plenty of room for longer travel dropper posts. The reach measurements range from 437mm on an S2 all the way up to 511mm for the S5. I've been spending time on the S4 version (I'm 5'11"), which has a reach of 487mm.

The chainstay length has grown a bit for increased stability at speed, and they now measure 442mm. The effective seat angle is a fairly typical 76 degrees.

The Enduro's geometry can be altered by rotating two chips that sit in the shock eyelet. In the low setting, the head angle measures a slack, 63.9-degrees, and in the higher position it increases to a still-slack 64.3 degrees.



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Look at all those pink bikes. That's a fleet of Enduro Elites ready for action.


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Enduro S-Works Carbon

Models

Enduro S-Works Carbon: $9,750 - SRAM AXS Reverb, Shimano XTR 12-speed drivetrain, XTR brakes, Fox 36 Factory fork, Float X2 shock, Roval carbon wheels, Butcher 2.6" / 2.3" tires


specialized enduro 2020
Enduro Expert Carbon

Enduro Expert Carbon: $6,550 - Fox Float Performance 36 fork, Fox Float DPX2 shock, Code RSC brakes, GX / X01 drivetrain, Roval Carbon wheels, Butcher 2.6" / 2.3" tires


specialized enduro 2020
Enduro Elite Carbon

Enduro Elite Carbon: $5,310 - RockShox Lyrik Select+ fork, Super Deluxe Select shock, Code R brakes, GX derailleur, cassette, NX shifter, Roval Traverse alloy wheels, Butcher 2.6" / 2.3" tires


specialized enduro 2020

Enduro Comp Carbon: $4,510 - RockShox Lyrik Select fork, Super Deluxe Select shock, Code R brakes, NX drivetrain, Roval alloy wheelset, Butcher 2.6" / 2.3" tires

specialized enduro 2020
Enduro S-Works
specialized enduro 2020
Enduro S-Works

Enduro S-Works frame w/ Fox Float X2: $3,310



The Enduro's long wheelbase and slack head angle are noticeable when climbing - you're not going to mistake this for a snappy little trail bike, but it does pedal very well, and not just for a bike with 170mm of travel. The shock remains relatively uninfluenced by pedaling input, while remaining responsive to the terrain the bike is rolling over. Specialized's full suspension trail and enduro bikes have traditionally seemed to prioritize traction over efficiency, but this new design manages to simultaneously feel very efficient without giving up traction - it's an impressive feat.

I've been spending time on the S4, which has a 487mm reach, but I could see going with a S3 for a little more maneuverability. The seated climbing position was relatively comfortable, partially due to the upright position that the stem and high-rise handlebar create, although I did end up sliding the seat all the way forward on the rails – I think the actual seat tube angle could get even steeper without any negative repercussions.

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The previous generation of the Enduro didn't really fall into the fast and furious category. It had plenty of travel, but there was something about its handling that made it more of a plush all-rounder rather than something designed for pure, unadulterated speed. The 2020 Enduro changes all of that – it now fits easily into the mini-DH category, and even then the word 'mini' is an understatement.

I don't usually hoot or holler when I'm riding, preferring to keep my emotions buried deep inside, but more than once I actually laughed out loud while riding the Enduro. It's almost ridiculous how much it'll smooth out the trail, and how fast that trait will let you go. Fans of bikes that deliver a magic carpet type ride will find a lot to like here. The low center of gravity is very noticeable, especially when cornering – having the weight centered close to the bottom bracket makes it easy to really push into a tight turn without losing any traction.

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Matt Hunter taking the high line out of the dust.

Downsides? Well, this is a bike that truly requires a steady diet of wild trails to keep it happy. It's a much more gravity-oriented machine than its predecessor, something that's closer to a downhill bike than an extra-long travel trail bike. Just like it wouldn't make sense to buy a St. Bernard to keep you company in a tiny studio apartment in a big city, the new Enduro isn't going to be the right choice if your typical trails are on the mellower side of the spectrum.

I'll be putting more miles in on the new Enduro over the coming months in order to further figure out its strengths and weaknesses. It's also going to be put to the test against some of the other top contenders in this category; look for the results of that battle to come out later this year.








481 Comments

  • 377 15
 Looks like a S̶e̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶...megatower
  • 72 5
 Including the pink color being basically the fry sauce color.
  • 6 3
 First thought I had.
  • 16 2
 Looks like a DH bike
  • 10 25
flag vjunior21 (Aug 13, 2019 at 9:50) (Below Threshold)
 Not at all. The Megatower is mint green. Hehehe
  • 8 2
 Thumbnail had be do a double take seeing Specialized next to a SC looking bike... colorway and all.
  • 3 3
 @Austink: Yum yum sauce? Shrimp Sauce? You call it fry sauce?
  • 12 0
 I want the pepto bismol edition.
  • 61 3
 Sick Demotower
  • 1 1
 @Austink: I stand corrected. Hehehe
  • 18 1
 Anybody besides me remember when those weirdo Canadian guys would show up at Plattekill & other East Coast races on their massively overbuilt pink Intenses and folks were like..."Who is that goob?" And they were all "some website called pinkbike" and we were like..."pffftttt"
  • 7 0
 @bizutch: Hahahahaha, totally remember that was priceless. Still have my season passes from 2000 and up at Splatty, the good ole days.
  • 14 20
flag christiaan (Aug 13, 2019 at 10:32) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a S̶e̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶...ugly megatower
  • 37 8
 Big S gonna sue SC soon,
  • 42 23
 Except it looks way better than the megatower and actually fits real shocks.
  • 50 4
 Santalized? Special Cruz?
  • 3 3
 @onemanarmy: lol. Pretty much.
  • 19 0
 So the new Rocky looks like a Specialized, and the new Specialized looks like a Santa Cruz. . . What is even happening today.
  • 12 1
 Endurotower
  • 5 2
 @jorgeposada: man...now I wanna go get a crew from NC, drive up on a Thursday, sleep in a tent on the rocks & be woken up by really loud trashy northeasterns yelling "dude" and "oh my gawd" and "bro", drink far too much, jump a fire pit & watch guys take showers in the drainpipe...not cause they're dirty, just "cause bro"
  • 3 2
 @bizutch: yum yum sauce sounds better to me, but SC called it fry sauce.
  • 8 3
 @Trudeez: Megatower looks like a Banshee, Enduro looks like a Megatower, Slayer looks like a Enduro. Next thing you know a Session wont look like a Session.
  • 33 1
 Its remarkable how close it looks to the original test mule:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/17601397
  • 3 1
 @acali: hahaha that got me for a second.
  • 1 1
 @bizutch: I'm down, new to NC it's sick out here. Still have decent crew upstate NY but not like the old days. Watching people crash jumping the fire was the best. Next day hucking everything.
  • 3 3
 Man, it does look like a Santa Cruz. More than I even expected it to. Just looking at the thumbnail on the front page, I thought it was a SC, so I skipped over it initially. The X-wing is dead! Long live the X-wing!
  • 2 3
 No aluminum models .
  • 1 1
 @cky78: ROFL!!
  • 2 2
 @acali: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
  • 7 10
 Yeah,it looks like a SC Megatower if you smoked some crystal meth,lol
  • 4 2
 Longer reach than the new Demo, throw some triple clamps on it and you have a great DH bike haha
  • 1 2
 @TheR: That's insulting !!!!
  • 7 0
 @hogankoesis: Very poignant and well-thought-out statement. I have no rebuttal.
  • 1 1
 @fat-hub: What’s insulting?
  • 3 0
 @bizutch: good God I miss Plattekill.... Northstar just ain't cuttin' it
  • 1 1
 @sambs827: We all do, have never seen a network that big or diverse over 2 peaks. Skiing was bonkers if you hit it in right conditions and I compare Platt to BC which I ripped a new one on skis many times.
  • 2 2
 @mlangestrom: Santa Works?
  • 3 0
 @sambs827: Round rocks & brown dirt at Northstar with the socially narcissistic versus rock surfing & black dirt boogers with the social deviants & nutjobs of the North. Yep, I've seriously only been to Platty the one race but I feel like that place never left me.

Heck, every time I did a race some place else & some dude on 3.0 Gazzalodi's dropping F bombs rumbled through the gnarliest part of a track and made it look like they were out for a stroll in the park...I was like "you ride Platty?" They'd be like "F*%**! YES!!!" Big Grin
  • 2 2
 Kinda looks like a 2015 Kona process
  • 1 2
 Mixed with a mega tower, obviously
  • 2 2
 @bizutch: You and I have been to two different Northstars. The type of rider you described as one of those platty nutjobs was the most common type of rider at N* circa 2003-2010. Karpiels (from Reno, but a N* mainstay) and Gazzis were common and so were sketchy booze runs and safety meetings in the middle of the resort.

I haven't been there in a while because MTB has gotten significantly more expensive since then, but I'd imagine that what you're seeing there now is a result of the bro-homogenization that's happening everywhere as MTB becomes more mainstream.

That being said, I'm sure someone just as salty as I will think that I'm a bro-biker the second they set eyes on me on my first-trip-back-to-northstar trip later this year. It's all a matter of perspective.
  • 3 2
 @happycatbasket: To clarify, I was generalizing about Northstar. Never been. I only know @kidwoo went there so... Big Grin
  • 2 1
 @happycatbasket: US Platty nuttjobs have a saying. If you can hit everything at Splatt you can ride anywhere on earth. Too many stories to tell but have ridden with Gwin, Hill, basically almost all but the new pros there. It was a hidden hem that companies tested prototypes at and between Windham and MT St Ann WC pros would be there ripping with us. One guy on a Karpiel from Cali came thru once and really impressed us. I mean first time out hitting some mega tech 25 foot stuff only a handful would consider.
  • 1 1
 @Austink: reminds me of the colour Santa Cruz used..
  • 1 2
 Looks like a "looks like a..." meme.
  • 155 4
 It looks good and all, but if my main riding aim is to jump stumps, should I get this bike or go for a different bike in their line up?
  • 205 5
 This bike was made to endure the hard rocks, rock hopping, AND stump jumping. I know this because ive demo’d them all on tarmac in Roubaix, France
  • 11 141
flag solarplex (Aug 13, 2019 at 9:37) (Below Threshold)
 @cuban-b: wooosh
  • 22 2
 On a more serious note, people have been over-shocking the stumpy evo 29er to give it 155mm-ish of travel, which also increases how progressive the end stroke is. I'd love to see a shootout between an evo modified like this, but with both bikes sporting a 170mm front end.
  • 39 0
 @solarplex: did you just hear that woosh?
  • 45 0
 @solarplex: I think the wooosh might in fact be woooshing over your head....
  • 4 1
 @hamncheez: having tested the Evo extensively, and gauging by the shape, kinematics and travel of the enduro, they are going to ride entirely differently, especially for larger dudes.

The evo is a great trail bike with some ability to get after it in gnarly terrain. The Enduro appears to be a DH bike that has been pared down for enduro/megagnartrail use.
  • 7 0
 Another question- will this and the new slayer mean that the EWS racers will stop using over-forked trail bikes and start using the bikes that were actually made for enduro? I always wondered why they were on stumpys and other trail bikes for riding trails that I would want a full DH on. It just makes more sense to me, since your riding stages almost blind, to ride a bike that gives you much more forgiveness for poor line choice, so long as you can pedal up the transfer stages. The Rocky Mountain team were on bikes with only 140mm of travel, for heavens sake!
  • 19 0
 @solarplex: is this some next level irony I’m not aware of?
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: Enduro isn't freeride, that's the thing. Even Rocky Mountain isn't classifying the new Slayer as an "enduro" bike- that is the Altitude. I doubt we will see many of the top EWS racers on bikes over 160mm. But this Enduro might be changing that if pedals as well as the first looks say it does.
  • 5 0
 @cuban-b: out of control m8
  • 41 2
 @cuban-b: I miss read your comment and took it for a smart ass comment and now im paying the price hard. haha
  • 4 2
 @ka-brap: No one on EWS team rocky is riding an Altitude either. It's not an Enduro weapon apparently but more of a LT trail bike like a Mach 5.5
  • 3 6
 @bigtim what bike should I buy if like to slay trails on mountains made of rock?
  • 18 1
 @bigtim: Today is the day I wish i could delete comments, lol wooshed myself hard.
  • 16 0
 @solarplex: We've all been there dude. Accept the woosh. Own it. Become one with it
  • 8 0
 @hamncheez: it seems to me enduro racers value other qualities in bikes like efficiency, predictability, maneuverability...btw rocky team were riding the altitude with custom stroke length to get more travel but maybe they iiked the lightness, i dunno...if you think about it races mostly won by handling corners faster and not straight lining the gnar the faster...
  • 6 0
 @solarplex: to allez any doubts, you’re absolutely right - my comments are all a result of smartassery
  • 7 1
 @solarplex: That's an awful lot of misreading
  • 3 0
 @cuban-b: you forgot to mention it was epic :-D
  • 1 0
 @klake: IDK I'd rather try to do this on as close to a full DH bike as I could pedal up the transfer stages:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrnoU0j-jzA
  • 8 0
 @hamncheez: That depends on whether we're seeing all the ways EWS races are actually won. I don't think that we are. The media will always shoot the gnar sections because nobody cares to see pics of flat corners... but exit speed is how you keep your times down. Riding a Yuge travel bike is a good insurance policy against crashes but certainly costs you time elsewhere. Up until this stupid antibiotic-doping 'scandal', Maes was smashing everyone on a 150mm fork...
  • 1 1
 @cuban-b: but how is it on an all-day epic?
  • 1 0
 @jlf1200: point taken. I guess thats why I asked; since we don't get the same coverage as DH (not really possible) I'm pretty ignorant on what a full days racing is like in the EWS.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I have had the last year's model enduro and a stumpy evo which I run a 170mm 36 and longer stroke ohlins ttx.

The stumpy would be the bike I'd chose no matter what the condition. I can't speak for this new model yet but the last on was just too much of a pig to love.

Can't recommend the upgraded stumpy evo enough tho, best bike I've owned!
  • 126 0
 First everyone is making room for a water bottle and now they're just straight up making Pinkbikes.
  • 64 3
 I'll take the aluminum test mule.
  • 9 1
 Something about those links has my full attention
  • 4 0
 Makes you wonder if the new alu Demo is just a kind of stop gap untill the new Enduro does a season and transplant that knowledge over to the Demo and make it carbon.
  • 22 6
 Seriously... $PECIALIZED! STOP PUTTING TRASH SUSPENSION ON YOUR 2ND TIER BIKES!! Give me some XT, some aluminum rims, and some goddamn Kashima! I want to buy local but these stupid builds are making it, hard, hard, hard!
  • 10 0
 @JohnnyVV: Kashima is the biggest waste of $. DT Swiss wheels with 350 hubs please. Where's the coils at?
  • 4 0
 @jaydawg69: Sure, fair enough; just trying to be succinct about my desire for better suspension over a "better" drivetrain or carbon wheels. Would be equally happy with Performance Elite or a Lyrik Ultimate.
  • 3 2
 @JohnnyVV: it's trash if it's not kashima... my word.
  • 67 15
 Frame looks nice (as long as the seatpost doesn't need to extend) and i suppose it rides great.

But the specs are f*ing ridiculous, no other way to put it. S-Works model with Reverb ASX but XTR shifting? What were the product managers smoking and where can i get some?
Expert for 6.5k with low-end parts like Fox Performance suspension, X-Fusion post and a steel chainring, but carbon rims, wtf?
  • 13 0
 Well the Comp Carbon is a good deal- same frame as the S-Works and its only 500bucks more than a Yeti frame.
  • 92 2
 @Ttimer The product managers were probably thinking, "What's an awesome drivetrain? The new XTR, check. What are some rad brakes? The new 4-piston XTR, check. What's a sick seatpost? The new Reverb ASX, check. " They spec'd the S-Works model like an aftermarket bike, which to be honest, is pretty rad.
  • 1 1
 Exactly what I was thinking!
  • 30 1
 I'll take a steel chainring all summer long if it comes with carbon rims.
  • 39 29
 Man, first Pisgah is turning into a bike park with trail dozers gutting all "eroded" singletrack and making it "more sustainable" by making gaps & berms & giant ditches to "catch the runoff from the giant berms & jumps"...and now the manufacturers are like " here's your tractor for riding all that straightline stuff". It's like someone told them the machines were gutting all the tight tech stuff & they made plow bikes ready to purchase the instant the trails got juiced.

I miss going for a ride, coming to stop to apologize to hiker, asking them about how far they've come, then trying to clip back in and get my bike rolling on some precarious roots and rocks.
Now, drift, boost, blow by stunned hiker & lean back on my clown bike wheels of the utterly stealthy forest murderer point and shoot mega-not a DH bike...bike.?
  • 17 1
 Came here to say this too. The Enduro Expert Carbon model for $6,550 with a GX Cassette and performance suspension is insane.
  • 12 30
flag nskerb (Aug 13, 2019 at 10:35) (Below Threshold)
 @bizutch: dude go volunteer at an old folks home if you like doing lame shit like that lol. Don’t be mad because some people like riding faster than you.
  • 2 0
 @NotNamed: Comp Carbon is 4999€ tho on their european sites, which is more directly converted than what an Elite model costs (4999€ = 5590usd at the time of me writing according to google, that is 200smth more than the Elite version). tl;dr it costs way more in Europe
  • 9 3
 @bizutch: "Now, drift, boost, blow by stunned hiker & lean back on my clown bike wheels of the utterly stealthy forest murderer point and shoot mega-not a DH bike...bike.?" Sounds amazing tbh
  • 5 2
 @NotNamed: It's a 4500 USD bike with components befitting a 2000 USD bike. How is that a good deal?
I'm running an X01 (GX crank of my choice), Lyrik RC2, Super Deluxe RCT, Reverb 170, Code RSC and XM1501 equiped ALU bike that cost me a bit over 4500 € all in. I'd say that is somewhat of a good deal.
  • 7 0
 Carbon rims, X01, Code RSC and top it all off with fox performance suspension. The freaking model below it has a higher-end fork.
  • 5 0
 @Primoz: Its a good deal considering that the Turq Yetis and CC Santa Cruz frames cost nearely as much.
The build cits of the Said two are way worse.

Compared to other brands its a bad Deal- thats true.

Ive got my Carbon Comp Stumpi in Slovenia for 1000€ less than Here in Austria- when you can get the same Discount for the Enduro it isnt a bad deal
  • 9 6
 @nskerb: I raced all the DH I could across all the country I could get to. I love being pinned. You just don't know the specific trail system I'm referring to or what was done to it. Try some other insults though...I'm up for it.
  • 6 2
 Yeah usually the only reasonable excuse for a Reverb is that it came in a bundle with other SRAM components, but Reverb being the only SRAM thing on a top specced model is slightly weird...
  • 1 0
 Makes me wonder where is the cheapest country to buy a decent bike from?@NotNamed:
  • 2 0
 @Tobsa: European prices include tax while US doesnvt due to different amounts across the states.
  • 7 4
 @ka-brap: That kind of thinking is befitting a teenage boy, but not a professional product manager. For instance, Reverb ASX is a great addon to the ASX drivetrain but a colossal waste of money on its own. S-works is specced like the aftermarket bike of a rich kid with no sense of value who buys random stuff because he heard it’s cool.
  • 2 0
 The frame and suspension linkage are probably neither cheap nor easy to manufacture. Guess they had to pinch a few pennies here and there. I'm just curious if that nest of pivot points will withstand the test of time.
  • 2 1
 If you use offset bushings and/or an angleset, I think the YT capra 29 compares favorably with this bike. Their top build is $5500, a tad more than the Enduro Elite Carbon at $5400. I know E*thirteen has had their issues in the past, but recent reviews have found their QC has improved dramatically. The YT is spec'ed so much stronger than the comparable Enduro that I don't see how you can justify the price difference (other than the Enduro will probably be in stock when you want to buy it). My personal opinion is that its spec'ed stronger than the Enduro Expert Carbon build as well thats $1000 more.
  • 9 0
 Over $5k for the "elite" and it has an NX shifter. 8000 of my Australian pesos and NX is a tough pill to swallow.
  • 2 1
 @hamncheez: All Capra 29 Pro Race are in stock, in both colors, according to website. ETT on Med should be longer than geo table indicates.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: Dunno why you wouldn't want a steel chain ring on anything but an XC/marathon bike.
  • 2 0
 @bizutch: I'm with ya man. Buncha savages in this town.
  • 2 2
 @clink83: wears your chain faster?
  • 1 0
 @bizutch: You should come to "North Pisgah" (Wilson's Creek area). We have great singletrack without the crowds. Some stuff is overgrown but never overcrowded. There is some decent lift-service in Beech and Sugar. What's not to like?
  • 4 4
 @hamncheez: except yt capra has harsh suspension and quality issues (aparently). They are cheap for a reason
  • 3 1
 @dro-cfr: USA, it’s called Walmart bro.
  • 2 1
 @zyoungson: all 3 of mine have been smooth as butter, and given my job in a previous life I know the failure rate like the back of my hand - any QC issues were no worse than I've seen from many other brands including Specialized. Capra's are good bikes, I'd still recommend them to anyone.
  • 2 0
 @ka-brap: This!
Rare to see such a neat lineup on an oem bike. Really dig the frame, to bad i just got a HTLT this year.
  • 2 1
 @Ttimer: I think your comment shows how completely out of touch you are with the market and how many paying customers want a wireless dropper post no matter what brand their drivetrain happens to be. S-Works bikes have always been and always will be about having the best components. This bike is no different and Specialized will completely sell out of this S-Works model, which only proves my point.
  • 4 2
 @ka-brap: No. Do you really believe that customers would buy the current S-works over an S-Works specced with full AXS? Talk about being out of touch. And if people wanted a wireless dropper so desperately you would have seen lots of Magura Vyrons in the wild over the last couple of years. But you don't.
That line about the best components is straight up marketing talk without substance. I don't see Trickstuff brakes on there, i don't see parts by Chris-King, Syntace, Enve or other high-end components. Its just tons of house-brand stuff, which might even be good, but nowhere near "best".
  • 4 0
 @Ttimer: Yes. Going with a full AXS drivetrain is more of a market risk than mechanical XTR. I'm not saying it's inferior but just that people have reservations about it and that represents a legitimate sales risk. The new XTR is for sure hotter than XX1 Eagle and Specialized's PMs are totally right for specc'ing it. Additionally, many people who generally don't like wireless/electronics on their bikes are actually ok with it on a dropper post. It gets rid of a cable/hose that traditionally hasn't been on a bike anyway and doesn't seem as "risky" as committing to a wireless/electronic drivetrain. No one was ever excited about the Magura Vyron frankly because it didn't work well, every review is keen to point that out. To put that post in the same category as the Reverb AXS is about as careless as you claiming that Syntace makes super high end aftermarket components or that Enve's wheels are the best or that XTR brakes could not be considered "best". We all have preferences for certain high end brands over others and we could yell about it all day but the fact remains that this S-Works bike is loaded and it's awesome that it pisses you off this much.
  • 2 0
 @bizutch: Wilson!
  • 2 1
 @Shnoztastic & @arvrs : Fight Club...shhhh
  • 3 3
 They put the money where it counts like carbon rims and Code RSC brakes. The 36 performance is not a "low-end" part. Still has the GRIP2 damper - I have one and it feels amazing. X-fusion dropper is another ABSOLUTE STANDOUT. Read Levy's review. I have one and it's been going for 14mos no issues at all. Also GX Eagle doesn't scream bling, but it's very close in weight to the XO Eagle and will be cheaper to replace down the road. I think they nailed it on the Expert model, and I believe they'll sell more of those than any other model. Plus that paint job...
  • 2 0
 @bizutch:
Call me crazy but there we some trees down on Avery and a few spots that did need a little work. Will be sad if it’s a “flow” trail
  • 3 1
 @hamncheez: until specialized goes direct to customer, their prices will be higher. People love to hate Spesh but they could easily go the YT/Intense route and undercut them in the process. Maybe they will. I know a lot of shops hate them too but at least they’re still choosing to be IN the shops.
  • 4 1
 @jeremiahwas: The prices aren't just higher. They are high. Period. And the issue here is that year on year the prices are getting higher for no apparent reason.
  • 1 0
 @Primoz: Well, if you ask the manufacturers, they will blame it on the Trump Tariffs. IDk how much truth there is in that though.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: Probably not much, because the price hikes started well before the tariffs. Part of the problem is that this industry is rife with collusion, plagued by huge market power from a few component makers and consumers that are very susceptible to the hype machine or overcome by brand loyalty.
  • 1 0
 @sunringlerider: I can't say too much, but I had the opportunity to walk the areas that were of major concern with someone of tremendous knowledge who knew exactly what could be done to address the issues and they were simple & straightforward solutions, most of which didn't involve machines. I've not gone down it yet, but I will. Irony is I've always hated Avery because it's hard to get to without a day to commit and is over in a blink with a big climb out to gravel in all directions.
  • 1 0
 @cassonwd: Is a grip damper, not a grip 2.
  • 48 0
 Finally NX drivetrain on a 4500$ bike
  • 8 0
 NX shifter on the $5300 one!
  • 10 0
 the big bike companies must really think customers are complete idiots these days, the spec on bikes is getting shitter by the year, but the prices keep going up
  • 2 0
 The same price point that was GX as recently as 2016.
  • 44 9
 Actually saint Bernards are pretty relaxed dogs. A good walk twice a day and they'll sleep the rest of it... On a bikes note, I guess specialized is dipping on us long-travel 27.5-ers. luckily Rocky Mountain and Knolly are there for us eh
  • 32 2
 That was just the first really big dog that came to mind - feel free to replace with any other animal that’s impractical for the city.
  • 127 0
 a walrus?
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: you should look into maremma sheep dogs for big and fast
  • 11 2
 @mikekazimer: A walrus.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: I love to see you reply Kaz!
  • 3 0
 yeah, it is clear this bike is all about enduro racing. I am sure a lot of folks out there want race bikes that don't race but I think a lot of people will look elsewhere for their fun weekend chunder sled.
  • 8 2
 @SimonVelo: i have a free range walrus in my closet in texas. He comes & goes as he pleases. Dont pigeonhole animals in your “categories”. And yes he has his own gun. Viva las ‘mericas!
  • 4 0
 @gofastdrinkbeer: a whale is pretty impractical too in the city
  • 2 1
 That's alright, show them with your $$$. If you don't buy it they might bring out a 27.5 version that we actually want to buy...
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Rhodesian Ridgeback Wink
  • 1 0
 Yeah need a lot of feeding tho
  • 34 0
 "There's room for a water bottle, and in-frame storage for snacks and other supplies."....

love it, "other supplies", why dont they just rename it the HWC, Hidden Weed Compartment
  • 40 0
 SWAT = secret weed and tubes
  • 9 15
flag artistformlyknowasdan (Aug 13, 2019 at 9:45) (Below Threshold)
 Vape fits in pocket - wonders why peeps still use flower and lighters on rides
  • 10 0
 @CoffeeHouseMedia: Supply Weed At Tailhead?
  • 34 1
 @Grmasterd: You must ride an Ebike too?
  • 5 7
 @RadBartTaylor: don't own one yet but they're rad to ride
  • 3 1
 @Grmasterd: This. Vape to preserve lungs so you don't need an ebike.
  • 3 1
 @BenPea: or better yet add an ebike to the quiver and still vape
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd:
@BenPea:

Yeahhhh no thanks.

Until more regulations on vapes come, I'm sticking with jah herb. Popcorn lung is no joke.

www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/22-people-have-been-hospitalized-vaping-linked-breathing-problems-doctors-n1041851
  • 1 0
 @RXN059: I'm not talking about nicotine or chemicals hombre. Can't believe this is not more of a thing with dope.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: the article mentions some of those experiencing lung issues were vaping THC products. It doesn't mention oil cartridges specifically, but I can't imagine they were vaping dry flower and had those issues. Cheap vape companies use cheap chemicals in their processes, oil cartridges included. I'll refrain from going off on a tangent about the usual suspect chemical and impurities that cheap vapes can include. Not all that glitters is gold.

Happy trails mane
  • 1 0
 @RXN059: dry bud only mate, never tried oil.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: word, vape on brother. I assumed incorrectly that you were talking oil since those are really catching on here
  • 1 0
 @RXN059: na man, we have to grow the stuff ourselves. Can't get it in pharmacies yet, but its only a matter of time. The potential tax revenue is impossible to ignore.
  • 2 0
 @BenPea: these fools still carrying around a pipe, flower and lighter ????????
  • 1 2
 @BenPea: You did agree with the dude that said "..wonders why peeps still use **flower** and lighters on rides", so that was the confusion....
  • 2 0
 Flower is a very common term for weed
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd: I can see how "fools" could be seen as a negative term now... He didn't sell his point well, but I read between the lines. What my client meant to say was "blunts are marvellous, but THC vapour is even better for you". I hope that clears things up. We're all pointing in the same direction ultimately.
  • 3 0
 @BenPea: it just a troll filled forum on a bike site - nobody should be taking this very serious. And if you still haven’t updated to vape on rides you are a fool. Razz
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd: hey, the two are not mutually exclusive, as I prove daily.
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd: idk mane, when I say or hear someone say "flower" I interpret that to exclusively mean dry herb but every social circle/region has its own customs. No sweat over here I'm not getting worked up over weed talk on a bike site lol
  • 31 5
 This is a stupid thing to think about but I absolutely loved the X-Wing frame design and thought that the last 2 generations of enduros were some of the best looking bikes on the market. Sad to see that go.
  • 15 3
 @bridgermurray Looks are so subjective. I've personally always disliked the look of the X Wing design. This is the first non Demo Specialized bike that I've ever wanted
  • 8 1
 @pdxkid: I agree, this is the first Spesh in years that has caught my eye other then the Demo. But aesthetics are only a small part of the equation...curious to read how it rides and holds up to all the abuse a bike like this will get in the upcoming reviews.
  • 8 2
 same with the slayer- last generation absolutely beautiful and new one meh.
  • 5 1
 @pdxkid: I'd agree with that. In fact it's the first Specialized bike, of an kind, that I've ever wanted
  • 4 2
 I agree. I have the first-gen X-wing 2010 Enduro, and it only got sleeker and cooler looking over the years. After years of the Enduro having such a stand-out and unique look, this design is a bit of a let-down, at least aesthetically.

I’ve been a bit disappointed in the last few Specialized releases — the Stumpjumper was just kind of OK. The look was ripped off from Orbea, and a few people told me it basically rode like an Enduro from 5-6 years ago (not that that’s bad, but not exactly cutting edge if you already had this bike in another iteration).. The New Demo looks like it stepped backward in its evolution — it looks like a bike from 2008-09. Now this. None of it is exactly bad, just not too exciting in my opinion.

But looks are subjective. They probably kick ass on the trail, though. I know it’s not cool to like Specialized around here, but they do generally make damn good bikes.
  • 4 0
 Agreed. My 2018 enduro has just become a collectors item.
  • 1 0
 Yes and they rode great at the time. This one rides next level if you are talking about racing and going big. I like the looks of the old one, but this thing is far more capable.
  • 26 2
 *races to Specialized's YouTube channel to see what their marketing department has come up with for this one*

*isn't disappointed*
  • 4 2
 She looks pretty good.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExRsnHZHL8

The therapist ain't bad to look at either.
  • 26 8
 @MTBrent: That was a waste of 5 min.
  • 3 19
flag RadekHart (Aug 13, 2019 at 11:00) (Below Threshold)
 Doesn't matter how cinematic your ad is when the frame looks this ugly...
  • 20 4
 I enjoyed that video because it makes me wonder how many times people who were making it were asking themselves: what on earth are we doing?!
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: True story.
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: We as the target market were in on the joke, and I'm still wondering WTF?

Sorry guys. Specialized missed the mark on that one. Found myself a little more annoyed than interested in their product.
  • 5 4
 @TheR: it was at least 3 times longer than necessary and I respect that. I think this motion picture gives us insight into the feelings of anxiety of a dentist after he has been riding the same bike for almost a year.

The movie that YT made was bizarre and... pretentious. Spec video is just bizarre.
  • 1 0
 I think the whole thing is a riff on the Hannibal TV series, there's more than a little of Hugh Dancy's Will Graham in there. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUvn0KXh3Z0 . My main disappointment was the lack of a massive black stag.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Wasn’t a fan of the YT bit, either.
  • 1 1
 I kept thinking this guy's too young to afford a high priced therapist, unless he's loaded. So maybe the premise is Bruce Wayne buys a Spesh. Should've called it The Dark Knoob.
  • 21 1
 From the “spy shots” I wasn’t impressed with the look. But it is actually a visually pleasing bike. I dig it.
  • 24 3
 Amazing how we can move from "is this a spy shot of the new enduro?" to "here's our first ride on the new enduro in like 72 hours.
Specialized embargo in full effect.
  • 15 0
 @nouseforaname: yeah PB posting spy shots while simultaneously writing the review for it lol
  • 8 1
 @nouseforaname: Pretty clear that they organize all of that. I'm sure they've had the test bike for awhile, so release the "spy shots" of these bikes strategically.
  • 8 0
 @ldhbaker: Thanks, i know that. I'm calling it out because I hate it.
  • 12 0
 @nouseforaname: They had a comment about this in the slayer article. They make an agreement with the manufacturer that they won't spill any of the details that they get from manufacturer, but anything that is seen in public is fair game to report on. They have a bunch of staff, so one guy can be segregated to work on the "first ride" article so that it can drop the same day as the bike release, while other staff are free to pursue/report public sightings.

I'm not sure what about that bothers you guys? It seems like pretty standard industry practice. Would you prefer they didn't report public sightings? Or that they broke their agreement with manufacturers so that you can get news earlier? The first one would just amount to them covering up details for manufacturers, the latter would just piss off every bike company that they work with.
  • 2 1
 @nouseforaname: oh no they purposefully dropped any spy shot, in fact hacked someone elses account o leak it themselves, just pre juice some marketing hype on forums.
  • 3 1
 @ldhbaker: That is false. The shots posted on PB had to do with timing of the EWS event. If the event were later, let's say next week, those shots would never have been posted prior to the launch.
  • 19 0
 Finally spesh have their geometry dialled, but no aluminium model is disappointing
  • 6 0
 agree and agree.
  • 3 7
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 13, 2019 at 13:30) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: I’d still prefer a Demo with 157 spacing and effective STa at 76deg.
  • 5 0
 Yeah it does look good but I'm not too sure about the shortish seatpost lengths combined with a slack actual seat tube angle. You can see from Mike's comment that he had to move the seat forward all the way. I think he might have a similar issue if he went with the smaller frame size too. With the top 2 sizes you will still need to get your weight forward to weight the front tyre as the long front centre is very long. It is good to see some longer chainstays though but still not long enough on the top two sizes in my opinion.
  • 3 6
 @WAKIdesigns: On 95% of trails, if you timed yourself, this bike with a fox 49 lowered to 180mm or the stock demo you would have the same times. Sorry, but the Kona Magic link was the last 200mm travel bike that was made to be pedal-able.

Also, why 157mm? I still think we should go back to 142mm; the original Enduro 29 had 142mm spacing with short chainstays, great tire clearance, and even room to run a front derailleur!! Boost is a scam.
  • 1 0
 @MTBgeometryguru: all they need to do is add adjustable chain stays, its not hard, bikes managed to do it 10yrs ago
  • 2 2
 @hamncheez : because Demo has 83mm BB shell hence to get the good chainline for the big cogs you need 157. Since normally you don’t need more than 6-7 gears on DH bike 142-148 works.
  • 17 1
 Specialized Enduro vs Rocky Mountain Slayer vs Commencal Clash vs Santa Cruz Megatower vs Giant Reign SX 29? It would be cool to see a group review or round-up of all the freeridey rigs available these days
  • 61 0
 Don’t worry, we’ve got a group test in the works.
  • 12 0
 Don't forget the Lenz Lunchbox!!! Oh wait wrong decade sorry
  • 5 0
 @mikekazimer: please include some throw backs that many of us have actually ridden or owned. It's really nice to know how much better/different these new bikes are from each other, but also from what we ride today.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: hope the 150 is on that. Shorter travel but same intentions
  • 2 0
 @acali: Pole machine?
  • 3 0
 @bishopsmike: lets add the Geometron to that list!
  • 1 0
 Maybe a new Evil Wreckoning?
  • 12 0
 really happy with my '18 enduro. this one seems like a different beast- i like having a bike that can plough through anything on the north shore but feels great to just hop on and ride some more XC kind of stuff. looks like this one is more of a pure enduro/ mini DH bike whereas the stumpjumper has now stepped up to fill in where the previous gen enduro was.
  • 5 0
 I'm on an '18 coil. I won't be replacing it for a long, long time.
  • 3 0
 @JSTootell:
Same - kudos
  • 3 0
 Yea exactly. 17-19 enduro could handle anything, from blue XC lap to double black bike park. This new one should have been called something else. Its a pure EWS race bike. With those wheelbase numbers Incant see it being that playful
  • 4 0
 Same here. As a guy riding an XL size, I really wonder how nice it is to ride these on an actual trail that isn't super straight. Tight corners are already tight enough without adding another 3in of freaking wheelbase to deal with. I'm already on 29in minions and slacked out...how much more stability do we need at the expense of manueverability? Maybe I'm wrong...?
  • 2 0
 @Svinyard: Glad other people are feeling this too. The pendulum of trendiness is still swinging quickly in the direction of length and stability and away from agility and maneuverability. Hopefully we won't go too overboard before some balance sets in. It's fine for a bike like this, because smashing rough terrain at high speed is its purpose, but when our trail bikes start looking like this, I'd say it's a step too far. (Of course, you usually get downvoted like hell for suggesting this...)

Just think about how many fewer trails will be fun and interesting to ride on this bike compared to its predecessor. Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing back before we get to 1500 wheelbase...
  • 1 0
 @Climbtech:
Yea exactly. I mean look at the new tallboy TRAIL bike. Reviewer complaining no need for 430mm chainstay option. I’d MUCH rather 430mm on a trailbike. Keep those 450mm chainstays for super enduro and DH
  • 13 1
 511 reach and a 465mm seat tube on the XL. I might be tempted off the Geometron at last.

(Someone should be paying Chris Porter royalties - first the SB165 and now this. Only taken five years to catch up)
  • 1 2
 If they haven´t for SJ evo I doubt they will now Wink
  • 4 1
 Except thats still smaller than my large g1. Everyone else seems to slow walk the geometry to stretch it out for 5 years of production ,i guess
  • 3 0
 @scary1: I think they added the 5mm to the G1 just to stay ahead Smile

How is the G1? I'm very tempted, but hard to justify changing, my original G16 is such a good bike, and they're built so solid that it's still good as new.
  • 1 0
 @honourablegeorge: its amazing. Its the bike i wished existed 20 years ago. I think the biggest difference in the G1 is the +2° seat tube angle? I dunno, i just cant get over how well it climbs, and i hate climbing. I love staying in my trail position on the climbs and im overcooking alot of corners going down because its so stable and fast, i lose my brake points!
  • 2 0
 I almost jumped out of the couch when I saw the geometry chart! I knew this day would come! Now I can chose between a Pole, Nicolai and a Specialized in size S5!
  • 2 0
 This made me laugh with my G16...hard to get a new bike when the old one is just as good.
  • 14 2
 Slayer: It's JASONNNNNN!
Enduro: *Throws gloves on the floor, slaps Hockey Stick* GAME ON!
Me: *Fist over mouth* Oh sh&$#@!!!!
  • 5 2
 the internet armchair marketing gurus told me that this bike was supposed to be announced yesterday. The tin foil hat tells me that at the last minute, Specialized delayed it to try and overshadow the new Slayer announcement.

Thoughts?
  • 10 0
 @hamncheez: False. Today was always the day.
  • 6 0
 @ischiller: the question remains, does it overshadow the slayer? That s-works raw looking frame is rather appealing.
  • 3 0
 @conv3rt: I think there is room for both in the mountain bike world. I am partial to Specialized as I along with a partner write, produce, and direct films for Specialized. In person the enduro is impressive.
  • 3 0
 @ischiller: I get that. when I see the enduro I want to ride it. When I see the slayer I'm left kinda wondering. I'm sure they're both fun but of course all I have is photos and someone else's words to go on. Choice is good, I just think the enduro looks more dialed and thought through. I may get down voted for saying this but I think the last slayer looks better than the new one. I know I know, it's about performance too but I'm stoked when form and function are both covered.
  • 5 0
 @conv3rt: Hard to make a bad bike these days with all the tools available to design bikes. Speaking from my experience, the enduro is dialed. I haven't ridden it but the word from people I trust, it eats trails at high speed.
  • 3 0
 @ischiller: as Malcolm Gladwell might say "there is no single perfect bike. There are only perfect bikes."
  • 2 0
 I jest due to the coincidental timing. Being a former ‘04 Slayer owner I’m actually super excited about the new version. But as mentioned most new age bikes rock these days - the Enduro no doubt in that list.
  • 3 0
 @ischiller: did you have any hand in the recent MTB marketing videos? I love them for being so weird, especially the bighead stuff.
  • 3 0
 @Upduro: Yes I did. Glad you enjoy them.
  • 3 0
 @ischiller: they are amazing. Rowdae is a masterpiece
  • 4 0
 @Upduro: I'll take it. For Rowdae, if it made us laugh we put in the shot.
  • 15 2
 Weighing 68 Big Macs, that's pretty good for a Nomad!
  • 12 0
 If only they would offer a special model: Enduro Protour Edition (its not actually a bike, but a stack of Linkage outputs)
  • 1 0
 top comment
  • 4 0
 A bike like that would just be downright dangerous.
  • 2 0
 @metaam: so any specialized according to protour
  • 11 2
 Wow, things got pricey. Two years ago, $4500 got you an Elite model. Now the Elite model is $800 more and they stick you with several SRAM NX pieces. Even the Expert has GX parts! Yeah, I get it, the big S isn't the only one doing this lately.

Another year without O'hlins? Whats the deal?

S-works model has XTR and AXS dropper...huh?
  • 6 1
 You don't want Ohlins. Their support is piss poor for consumers.
  • 2 0
 @phops: Weird they were great when I had problems with my stx22. Shock sucked though
  • 1 0
 @phops: Have had the same experience here, they have been nothing less than a pain in the dick to deal with.
  • 14 2
 How is anything NX appearing on a bike costing over five grand acceptable?
  • 5 0
 Its not.
  • 6 1
 I wish they would just tell us what the damn frames weigh.

64.5 and 170mm ? Sounds a lot like the Scott Ransom I bought. Always been a Specialized fan, too bad this wasn't an option six months ago.

Very interesting how far forward they placed that main pivot - that's got to improve the kinematics a lot. I'll have to go back and look at some newer bikes but that seems fairly innovative (Most main pivots are right above or slightly behind the crank centerline).
  • 16 8
 29 only? This is Horseshit!!!
  • 48 4
 You mean horst shit?
  • 16 15
 Step 1 remove 29” wheels
Step 2 remove 29” fork
Step 3 install double crown 27,5” fork that has identical axle to crown as a long travel 29” SC fork
Step 4 install 27,5” wheels.
Step 5 Enjoy being a demigod. As fast on the way up as your buddies on 150-160 bikes, plow through them on descents. At least as long as you don’t need to pedal through chunk... they will be far behind you anyways
  • 8 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Pedal strikes FTW
  • 10 4
 @Camstyn: it doesn’t have a stupid low BB to start with so it will be fine. Also, I know everyone here is a racer that pedals everywhere, even in the air so this mod would Have a rather limited audience
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: The BB is about as low as I’d want on a 170mm travel bike already. Any lower and I wouldn’t want to have to pedal it much.
  • 1 3
 @WAKIdesigns: EXACTLY The problem is you are not at Spec brain and decision center at the Olympo of the power over the bike stuff Neither me
So This is a bike that I will never buy.And this is the only power that was left for me .
  • 2 5
 @WAKIdesigns: in what world is a 27.5 faster than a 29 on the downhill
  • 2 3
 @phops: more travel with dual crown fork. Plow. Ploooow. I wish they would make an evo version of it.
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Longer travel fork with original axle to crown will lower the BB height even more when you factor in sag.
  • 8 2
 @Camstyn: not when you set it hard as fuk! Now stop pissing on my act of self proclaimed brilliance.
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: They did it is called the Demo! LOL
  • 3 2
 @SintraFreeride: Demo has 148 rear end spacing paired with 83mm BB shell. No way to install 10-42 cassette with acceptable chainline.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Fair enough. Paul Aston is building a 200mm Nicolai enduro bike. Might be just the bike we have all been waiting for.
  • 2 1
 @SintraFreeride: but Nicolais have too long reach and CS for my likes. It seems that for now only Commencal Supreme DH could fulfill my wet dream of a DH bike with 10-42 cassette, lockout and a dropper
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: geometrons used 83mm bb with 148 rear end for 2 years and they seemed to work just fine to be honest.
  • 2 1
 @Mondbiker: actually the best AM chainline is achieved with Boost rear end and non boost chainring offset. Quite a few folks I know buy non-boost chainrings for their sram cranksets. That is because the most commonly used cogs are from the middle and up. And the bigger the rear cog gets the bigger issue it becomes. I run 47mm chainline with 142 end on 10-42. 83mm moves the optimal chainline 5mm in wrong direction. Maybe if someone made some mad offset chainrings that would still fit the frame, it could be less of an issue.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: You can size down and the G1 can be set with 443mm CS. The Commencal DH bike doesn't have the seat angle for climbing.
  • 1 0
 @SintraFreeride: off course it does. The effective STa is good. But then it weights as much as a 2001 Kona Stinky.
  • 12 4
 no 27.5 and aluminium?
keep it then
  • 5 1
 I'm sure its 170mm, but is it too much to ask that we start off every review with travel numbers rear AND front? I don't actually think this mentions anywhere what length the fork is. Sorry to only comment for a complaint, but this happens all the time with reviews. Otherwise I love PB. :-)
  • 10 3
 No 27.5 and no alloy frame. I’ve been a loyal customer, but now Specialized is dead to me.
  • 6 0
 Pink bike and provocative shock placement looks like Ned Beatty on the receiving end of it in Deliverance.
  • 7 1
 The bike will quickly develop bottom bracket squeal
  • 1 0
 hahahahaha
  • 4 0
 It's seems like there is pricing jump on all the new bike announcements lately. Even 5k doesn't get you a full GX build. Although it is nice to see good suspension and brakes across the builds.
  • 2 1
 The mix and match aspect can be nice if done properly... NX Cranks and chain, GX mech and cassette, X01 shifter.
  • 4 2
 I have heard from a few people in the bike industry that the new Tariffs are why we are seeing steep price increases now.
  • 2 1
 @jpcars10s: I'd take a better chain. I chewed through two GX chains in a season on my full GX kit on the previous bike, i'm on an XX1 chain now on X01 cassette and GX crank (and sprocket) and it's holding up better i'd say. The surface protection on X01 and XX1 chains is better than on GX, seems to help a lot. Plus i've heard about REALLY good lifetimes on the first (X01) chains from XC racers still running 1x11 gearing (just an eagle chain upgrade), that i didn't see on my previous bike as i mentioned.
  • 1 0
 @Primoz: Good to know on the 12s chain, as I still love my X1 11s, but go through a chain every 4-500 miles. I put an Eagle ring on it and it's without a doubt the best chainring availible right now. New bike is all GX with NX cranks, so I'm looking forward to seeing how lasts.
  • 4 1
 Kudos to Spec for putting out a killer new design. A lot to like there. I agree that the SA could be steeper and that comes from owning a SB150 which I even think could be steeper. I applaud the CS length, in the 440's is right for these bikes, 430's is too short for the bigger sizes IMO. Pricing is good for the frame only but the build kits leave something to be desired; SWorks is weird with the Shimano/Sram mix; DPX2 on the expert vs. X2 is a bummer.

Is it the expert or the elite that is 32.7lbs?

@mikekazimer how does it pedal compared to an enduro sled that is acknowledged as good climbing, say a SB150?
  • 4 1
 I'm confident this a great bike for a few rippers with bike park frequency. However, for the most of us, the Stumpy Evo is still the go to weapon of choice. Id throw a leg over the new Enduro, but also look forward to putting the hurt on folks that bought too much bike. I'll be on my Stumpy Evo chomping gummy bears.
  • 6 0
 Listen to this, Specialized: 6,550$ should be enough to buy a very well spec'd bike!! Not mid-market stuff!!
  • 5 0
 'There's room for a water bottle, and in-frame storage for snacks and other supplies.' Other supplies...
  • 10 4
 Another plastic 29er, like there isn't enough of them already.
  • 2 0
 The Leverage Ratio around Sag is very close to 3:1, a bit higher than the old model. That means heavy riders are going to have problems pumping the shocks close to their limit it they go for air or finding the right spring, if they go for coil.
  • 2 0
 Lovin the look of this beast, absolutely gotta touch of SC going on there, but hey, bikes will be bikes. I rode an 06 Enduro for near on 7 years, while it was a hell of a bike in it's era, it sure did take some muscle to get it anywhere - but that's a story from the distant past. Test rode several of the more recent x-wing models, but I just never quite gel'd with them. Rolling a Capra 29er for the 18 months or so, and it's everything I want it to be, but some of these new LT whips got me giving side eye glances while she ain't looking...
  • 3 0
 The pricing is mental. Just checked and in New Zealand the S-works is going to be $16,500! You could buy a 150 bike and a full downhill bike for the same price! My current Enduro is a 2017 S works and that was $6,500 less.
  • 2 0
 "The low center of gravity is very noticeable, especially when cornering – having the weight centered lose to the bottom bracket makes it easy to really push into a tight turn without losing any traction."

How much of a difference is there to the center of gravity of the bike, and the overall package by swapping the shock with the water-bottle?
  • 2 0
 Added bonus with the older bike you could load the stash box up with things just infront of the bb. In a real world situation I think the old bike would have a better cg.
  • 4 1
 Came here to post "this looks like a.." to get attention - then I started my tiny little brain, realised it's something totally different and my post would be total bullsh*t, so I didn't do it.

- no pinkbike user in 2019.
  • 5 0
 The Expert Carbon and the Frame only colourways make me tingle.
  • 2 0
 So funny to see the return of the interrupted seat tube to the Enduro... what's old is new LOL... but nice to see it located lower in the frame than the old days, lots of room for a long dropper it looks like.
  • 2 1
 Excited to see numbers finally released, but I think I'll stay on my SJ EVO. Same head angle (in the SJ's "high" setting), with lower BB, more overall-riding friendly travel numbers while still being bike park worthy, etc. I'd really like to the see the SJ get that leverage ratio/progression, however. My one complaint with the EVO is it's tendency to get through the rear travel relatively quickly.
  • 3 1
 Come on, you can´t have it all at once, at least not with Specialized, maybe next year.
  • 1 0
 I agree with you that the new Enduro looks sick on paper. I look forward to trying one out. I also have a Stumpjumper Evo and it's nearly perfect for PNW riding. I really wish it had a more progressive leverage curve so I could run a coil decently. I currently have a DVO Topaz jammed full of volume spacers to keep from bottoming all the time.
  • 1 0
 Agreed. Leverage rate perfection. Doubt that will happen with the Stumpy unless they separate the linkage from the seat stays. Then things start getting heavy.
  • 5 0
 "Travel: 170mm"

So front and rear....170mm..?
  • 4 0
 Correct. I'll add a couple words in there to make that more clear.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Cheers thanks for the info!
  • 2 1
 First off...shocks are getting longer so they half to either be vertical (Transition and Scott) or through the seat tube (Santa Cruz). Everone who says "looks like a ....." needs to consider this. All bikes are going to take on a very similar design because of this.

Now..the reach deal. Longer reach bikes do ogibe you more stability than the shorter traditional bikes but they are not necessarily "centered". This where wheelbase comes into play. Specialized is making different bikes wth differnet styles. Sizing a bike based off WHEELBASE makes a lot of sense as the rider can be more centered without going short chainstays or long reaches.
  • 7 2
 Bring out a 27.5 Aluminium version and it will fly out the shops!
  • 7 2
 Yay more 29er bs that I don't fit on.
  • 4 0
 Is it me or is the STA actual really slack for some odd reason. Asking for the tall guys
  • 3 1
 It's not the steepest - if I remember correctly, it was around 68 degrees, similar to what you'll find on Santa Cruz's new bikes. That will put your weight further back over the rear wheel and result in a longer top tube compared to a bike like the Yeti SB150, which has an actual seat tube angle around 71-degrees.
  • 2 1
 I wasn’t considering a new bike until I saw the ‘spy’ shots over the weekend which got me thinking. I love how my 2018 Enduro rides and if this move things on again it’s very tempting.

However, I will not be buying one. I’ve just found another crack in my 2018 frame which itself is a crash replacement after a rock strike on the last frame. Both frames had Rockguardz fitted from new and both have cracked on the bottom of the down tube. This new one looks just as vulnerable.

Disappointing, but having only ever bought Specialized for 22 years it’s time to look for something else...
  • 1 0
 My bike has a carbon thing there to protect the frame. But an important detail,it has a gap (little Velcro) to move and deform when is it by a rock. It works flawless
  • 1 1
 Happens to every bike in rocky area's. I have a Trek Fuel that broke twice from rock strikes to bb area.
  • 4 1
 It’s like Spesh and SC are competing to see who can sell the most bikes that are the worst value for our money...NX on 5k+ bikes.
  • 1 0
 I work for a @specialized dealer but for some reason they do not sell frame sets to Canadians , very unfortunate . Owning the last 2 gens of the sworks enduro I really wanted this one but have only bought frames my entire life .
  • 1 0
 Can someone please help me out on this? I have a 2018 S Works Enduro. Came with 2.8 tires front and back, but 27.5. With this new one, it has 2.5 front and 2.3 rear?? 2.5 front maybe not so bad, but 2.3 rear? I just had the same on a Kona Process I demo'd. Can't understand why they are going to smaller tires at all, let alone 2.3? What am I missing here?
  • 1 0
 Baby this is your song, and sure, it ain't that long, but I'm tryin'. Can't you see, its so easy for me, to keep typin'. It's all in your eyes, that goddamn look of surprise, when I'm wafflin'. My sandwich is ready, stay safe and keep steady, whilst I'm eatin'.
  • 1 0
 Not bad. Anticipated long needed step-up from previous model that has become stretched to the limits of its form. Last year I swapped my sworks 29 for the Pivot firebird 29. Will have to see in person how the new Enduro rides but after reading and watching available first reviews, Firebird is a keeper. Kudos to Spec for the step forward.
  • 5 1
 Down country sessions are gonna be ALL TIME on this bad boiiiiii.
  • 7 2
 Endurnomad
  • 3 0
 Loving the new linkage designs. Bike are going to get so much more progressive.
  • 4 1
 Did specialized and rocky hire the same marketing firm? Same game plan of "spy shots" at crankworx followed by a release...
  • 1 0
 Newsflash: 2020 Mondraker Summon ridden & reviewed out tomorrow...
  • 2 0
 Absolute beast! A little too much bike for my needs, but I get it. Now can we focus on getting this sizing treatment on the Stumpy Evo for the masses?
  • 4 1
 I used to believe that "too much bike" was a thing, but its not. I ride a Pole Machine in central Texas, and it works great when pointed up, down, or straight. Unless you really care about minimizing weight for those strava times, or you want a bike you can dirt jump with, the slackness or amount of travel doesn't really matter.
  • 3 0
 I can't believe that pedal well. But no one care going uphill these days. I have always to do... And I love it.
  • 2 1
 Don't like the polished saddle head on the AXS post. Looks like a prototype part, and nothing else on the bike is shiny. #fail, this wouldn't happen with a Santa Cruz or Transition.
  • 1 1
 Say what you want Spec wll not read a single word and more 1 day no one will
And thats it 29" carbon etc .
The manufactors says WE made bikes to we earn a lot of money not for your ride pleasure your bunch of mosquitoes ahaha
Bring us the money we take care of him
  • 3 1
 Not that SC was the first to run the shock through the seat tube but dang, Spec. Stole he mainframe design from SC. Looks like a nomad with a different rear end bolted to it.
  • 2 2
 This is just like walking by a domestic car factory or dealer. All the employees drive Japanese cars.
Specialized employees all ride SC bikes probably?
Specialized was fed up and now the employees will take advantage and can get an employee deal on bikes the company they work for...
  • 2 0
 Makes you wonder if the new alu Demo is just a kind of stop gap untill the new Enduro does a season and transplant that knowledge over to the Demo and make it carbon.
  • 3 0
 The 2014 29er S-Works that was also reviewed on pinkbike was $9,250. Inflation corrected, this version got cheaper.
  • 2 0
 What’s up with two cables going to the left chainstay? Does the shift cable get routed back towards the right? Seems like unnecessary bends.
  • 2 0
 It's gotta kind of suck for people that bought the previous version of this model, since hasn't it been refreshed like almost every year for the past couple of years?
  • 1 1
 So Santa Cruz is winning the race ,but still don’t like the looks in both,but hey speaking on winning that commencal bike is fast ,and this one and the Santa’s looks like that brand but along time ago ,so maybe MAX really knows how to.
  • 5 1
 29er only, well fluck that wagon wheel shite. No thanks, I like turning.
  • 2 0
 Whst is going on ffs... Canyon, Orbea and now Specialized offering only 29???? gues my nex bike will be Nuke mega top model for the same price as spec comp...
  • 8 4
 Looks like a Nomad.
  • 7 5
 Ok. It is beautiful, we are not going to say it is not. But common... Santa Cruz won this battle.
  • 1 0
 i want to see a video of Matt Hunter riding this again. Like redo the video link below only with the new enduro!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZzPkFUZyc
  • 3 0
 Will the swat box contain the burrito juices?
  • 3 0
 nice bike carbon haters gonna implode
  • 1 0
 hows it climb? Ive been spending some time on a Pivot Firebird 29 and am blown away by how it crushes technical single track climbs.
  • 2 0
 I’m waiting to see what graves races on once he’s back new enduro or the crazy aggressive stumpjumper evo ?
  • 3 0
 X fusions seat posts? 30.9? Is the WU dream dead?
  • 2 0
 Did nobody tell Specialized they're supposed to have conservative geo numbers?!
  • 3 0
 Hell yea, now I can get an’18 dirt cheap to replace my dirt cheap ‘16
  • 6 3
 No 27.5?? Well that’s one less choice for us short people!
  • 3 2
 So the Specialized Enduro and the Rocky mountain Slayer are both miraculously spotted on the Trails 2-3 days before a Ride review is released...
  • 2 0
 Interesting how the Slayer and the Enduro have similar #'s but seem to ride completely different
  • 3 0
 If a Santa Cruz Nomad and Knolly Delirium had a bastard love child...
  • 1 0
 Wow Drool That looks amazing!!! At first glance it looks like a Megatower but then you realize it doesn’t have a link coming down from the top tube
  • 3 0
 Another nail in the coffin for DH bikes.
  • 4 2
 10999 euros for a bike?? jesusssss
i would buy 2 top end YT Capras and still have 400 euros left!
  • 1 0
 If they are ever in stock
  • 3 3
 Especially for a bike that is a straicht copy of the Megatower. And the Megatower's CHEAPER!!!!
  • 1 0
 still seems there is not much room to put a seatpost deep in the frame. i saw some flappy words but no actual measurement; get it together pinkbike
  • 2 0
 Why is specced with a 2.3 tire? My Stumpy Evo came with 2.6 front and back.
  • 1 0
 I’d say to make it a bit more agile.
  • 2 3
 I am glad that I bought my Bronson at the start of the season and wasn't waiting for the New Enduro reveal, when I was looking for the replacement for my old 2014 Expert EVO.
1. It looks like the Bronson, but worse
2. My 2014 Enduro looks better
3. It is 29" only, seriously....

The red frame looks sick tho...
  • 2 0
 This could just as easily have been named Bighit or SX Trail. Or combine the two and call it a Big SX.
  • 2 0
 Specialized: "our bicycles run exclusively suspension from Oh............Oh f*ck!; oh shit!; NEVERMIND!"
  • 2 0
 Carefully staged "spy shots". So now we know : spy shot"=product release in the next week
  • 1 0
 Crap will get on the shock over the top of the cove link bit, if it's shitty weather. But if you're rich enough to buy one of these that's probably not a problem.
  • 2 0
 Can I put it in the higher setting and run a 27.5 rear wheel? Just asking of us short arsed enduro riders...
  • 1 0
 First specialized since I was a kid that I really want to own.. don't like the parts combos though.. at least you can go frame only.
  • 1 0
 I for sure wouldn't feel "bad ass" with my snapped carbon rims and/or frame, some hours walk from the car park.
I'll pass on this hype train.
  • 6 4
 #27.5 aint dead?! Oh wait a sec, its soon to be
  • 8 6
 Just slayed the Slayer release!
  • 4 5
 I do't agree....
  • 8 1
 Slayer looks dated already on day1
  • 6 3
 Looks like a NOmad
  • 1 0
 Damn these new enduros are looking too good. Just need a Evo version with a 180 fox 40 for full mini-dh status
  • 1 0
 if you just put a fox 49 on there I'm sure it will be full DH status.

What would they do differently to make an "EVO" version? Even slacker HTA? a longer fork will do that.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez:
Good point. I guess all it would need is the 49
  • 3 0
 @brycepiwek: I guess they could do an "EVO" build, thats alloy, comes with a double crown, coil rear, and DD tires.
  • 6 4
 Pinkbike/Mike, was or is there any news on 27.5” versions?
  • 2 0
 Looks like a Santa Cruz Bronson and Canyon Sender
  • 2 0
 love it, Nomad too! Fuck Enduro, bring back mini DH!
  • 2 0
 Bring back? Nicolai and Pole would like a word with you.
  • 1 0
 So the non drive side chainstay has two internally routed cables... double brake lines?
  • 1 2
 Top one is for the derailleur and the lower one is for the brake.
  • 4 1
 @CrispiRider: Correct, derailleur cable passes through wheel.
  • 1 0
 @toddball: 2020 Tech
  • 1 0
 @toddball: The D. cable snakes through from the left to the right side and exits in front of the Horst Link.
  • 2 0
 New Specialized bar? Roval?
  • 1 0
 If only I spoke Portugese...
  • 1 0
 After all these years, @Protour finally receives the validation he so deserves.
  • 8 6
 MTB for 10k without the motor is a pure scam...
  • 4 5
 I would not call it a scam, considering carbon road bikes have been up there in cost for ages. MTB just gotten hugely more popular as a sport in the recent decade. I say let people spend their hard earned money. In the end, they are not any faster, and all it does is just inject more money into the market, which is a good thing.
  • 4 2
 Anyone who pays full retail for a bike is a fool. I own a 10k bike but I paid half price for it on sale.
  • 2 1
 @phops: get money out of mountain biking!
  • 5 0
 @ThunderChunk: Yeah. All those fools with enough money to buy what they want when they want. Losers.
  • 2 2
 @getsomesy: mountain biking doesn't existing without it
  • 3 2
 He is right 10k for a MTB is BS. Push bike cannot cost the same as a good dirtbike. MTB industry is a f*cking cancerous rip off!
I love mountain biking, but bike companies should get a hold of themselves....
  • 2 0
 @epidem: I don't get it. If the bike (SWorks is $16,500 here in New Zealand, a Suzuki Swift is $22,000 for comparison). You walk into the dealer and say, I'll give you $15k for it, they say no. Do you wait six months? A year, 18 months when the new model isn't far off to get a discount?
If they don't budge on the retail price then you have a choice between paying it or not.
As for motorbike comparisons I'm tired of them. Yes you could buy a 2019 CRF450 for less, but you can also buy a cheaper Enduro version for half the price of the moto.
  • 2 0
 @Idiotech: I'm not rich but I make decent money. I could afford to pay full price for my bike but I just can't justify the cost knowing prices drop at the end of the year. My custom built gambler cost me $3700. New it would be worth around 7 to 8k. My wife's Norco range was purchased for $2k, reg price wasa$3700. If people don't mind spending full price that's cool, but I just can't do it. I actually don't know anyone that's willing to pay full retail.
  • 1 0
 And yes, Mike please start to speak a bit slowly to understand you... Smile THX
  • 2 0
 The new and improved demo 7! Been waiting for this
  • 2 0
 Ask Gwin to test it :>
  • 5 3
 Not everybody wants wagon wheels #freerideforever
  • 3 0
 That raw carbon frame...
  • 2 0
 Looks like a planted monster truck. Not necessarily a nimble playful rig.
  • 1 0
 the lower pivot is sooo far forward. what does that do? what's the purpose?
  • 1 0
 HEAD-TUBE ANGLE 64.3mm K.

SEAT-TUBE ANGLE 76mm K.

155 saddle on the xtra small? 143 on the rest?
  • 6 5
 looks like i won't be upgrading my s-works enduro. it may be out dated but it's still better than a wagon wheeler
  • 2 0
 230x60 -> 230x65

Hmmmmmmm
  • 1 0
 Rear shock is a 205x60 Float X2 Maybe room to change to a 62.5mm if the linkage doesn't top out
  • 3 1
 Looks pretty similar to the 2006 Enduro. We've come full circle
  • 2 0
 That's ENDURO as F**K... Smile
  • 2 2
 The suspension linkage of full sus bikes nowadays looks like the suspensions on F1 cars. Horst link system is very much obsolete.
  • 2 0
 2006 called, and they want their Enduro back
  • 2 0
 I have always wanted an ugly pink 29 er.
  • 1 0
 It's a really nice bike. However Iam feeling it looks best in white if not in the black and white camo
  • 3 0
 Yay, 14 bearings.
  • 1 0
 Is that S-Works frame raw carbon, or is there some kind of patterned paint on it?
  • 1 0
 the old endure sucked for heavier people and this one looks to be worse with that leverage ratio right?
  • 1 0
 I'm gonna be that guy and say that Pivot and Knolly are losing the Super Boost battle because this is 148.
  • 1 0
 Always wanted a Pinkbike...
  • 2 0
 Looks like a ______.
  • 3 0
 you mean after it was run over by a bulldozer?
  • 1 0
 Infinitely adjustable seatpost? What's the catch?
  • 1 0
 they don't list carbon type? no more FACT 11/12?
  • 2 0
 No zebra colour :/
  • 1 0
 Haha wow looks like a sc.. but better! Love that blue
  • 3 3
 Longer chainstays and 170mm of 29er travel? I'll take one with a 180mm fork!
  • 2 1
 So, if the Yeti is a dentist's bike, is this a lawyer's bike? Wink
  • 1 0
 Orthodontist's bike, Lawyers rarely get past the Groadie stage... JKN
  • 2 1
 BIG PASS, nope XWING IS THE SHIT!
  • 1 0
 Thank God I ride a Knolly!
  • 1 0
 Anyone know why no Ohlins suspension on any of the models?
  • 1 2
 Hm, it looks like it´s not slacker than SJ EVO is it? Must suck for the naive.
  • 2 2
 Holy Santa Cruz batman!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 Radberry
  • 4 5
 They should just name it the Clitoris as pretty soon, every C*NT will have one.
  • 1 1
 I really like Santa Cruz. Can't wait to get this bike!
  • 2 2
 Game changer just needs to make it an E Bike!!
  • 1 3
 seriously, first they straight take the Orbea Rallon with the Stumpjumper than they make an identical Santa Cruz Megatower (minus the VPP). NOT COOL!!!
  • 1 1
 It looks like a turkey dinner, that isn't going to pedal well afterwards.
  • 1 1
 Another new bike from Santa Cruz ;-)
  • 1 2
 Is it me or do a number of manufacturers 2020 bikes look like a Santa Cruz...
  • 1 1
 This is pretty cool but I'll wait for the new Evil e-bike, "The Outing."
  • 1 1
 Soooo many new bikes....
  • 3 5
 i take better looking shits than this bike, really digged the x-wing layout
  • 2 2
 XWING FOR LIFE! I cant believe they pulled this shit
  • 2 0
 @PJD1: RED5 is still alive... @XWINGaintDEAD
  • 1 0
 @stiingya: RED5?
  • 1 0
 @PJD1: Star Wars, Luke's call sign was Red 5 when he destroyed the Death star in an "X-wing"...
  • 1 0
 @stiingya: oh. Never watched star wars
  • 3 5
 Booooooooo. The old enduro was gorgeous. I cant believe they replaced it with a f*cking Nomad ????????
  • 3 3
 Look like a Santa Cruz
  • 3 3
 Special Cruz Megaduro.
  • 1 3
 Funny just sitting back and watching everyone try to play catch up with SC and a slice of the pie lol
  • 1 1
 another dentist bike
  • 2 4
 Yuck, looks like an old heavy e-bike. And those 14 bearings are about $600 to replace every year.
  • 1 0
 Don't panic. I've just (first time) replaced 12 bearings in my 2005 Enduro and it was about 30-40$.
  • 4 6
 Well it ain't pretty, but I bet it's fast!
  • 6 8
 don't like the upper linkage: overly complicated.
  • 6 0
 I think it could have been simpler, true, but its the same thing as the Canyon Sender, and the same idea as the Knolly bikes, but executed differently.
  • 1 0
 Let us know when you have one of the largest bike companies in the world and can show us your design that's better...
  • 1 0
 @stiingya: done Xwing
  • 1 0
 @PJD1: I googled, I don't see no PJD1 Xwing bike company??? Did you start your company under a different name???
  • 2 4
 a bit of complicated nomad
  • 4 7
 If there were no logos on the frame, I'd think it was a Santa Cruz. Way to be original, Specialized.
  • 4 7
 Well I think its fair to say that Rocky Mountain won this release battle... Slayer > This Thing
  • 2 3
 Wow a Santa Cruz.
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