First Ride: Yeti’s New SB150

Aug 26, 2018 at 15:57
by Mike Kazimer  

Yes, it holds a water bottle. But there's much more to Yeti's new SB150 than the two appropriately placed bolt holes in its carbon frame. It's the most aggressive 29er that the Colorado-based company has ever released, with geometry numbers that place it on the cutting edge of the long and slack movement. The SB6 and its 27.5” wheels used to be the burliest machine in Yeti's lineup, but this new beast has taken the crown.

As the name suggests, there's 150mm of travel out back delivered by Yeti's unique Switch Infinity suspension design. Pair that with a reduced offset 170mm fork up front and you get a bike that's designed to take on pretty much any type of terrain imaginable, whether that's an Enduro World Series Race, laps in the bike park, or bashing around on your local trails.
Yeti SB150 Details

• Intended use: all-mountain / enduro
• Wheel size: 29"
• Rear wheel travel: 150mm
• 64.5° head angle
• 433mm chainstays
• Boost 148 rear spacing
• Sizes: S-XL
• Lifetime frame warranty
• Price: $5,199 - $10,399. Frame only: $3,800 USD.
www.yeticycles.com

There are five different build kits available, along with a frame only option, but even the GX Eagle base model will still leave a sizeable dent in your bank account – it's priced at $5,199 USD. The frame alone is priced at $3,800. For recent lottery winners, the top of the line XX1 Eagle option can be upgraded with DT Swiss XMC carbon wheels, putting the final price at $10,399.

Yeti SB150
Frame Details

The SB150's carbon frame still has that distinctive Yeti look, thanks to its clean lines and the Switch Infinity suspension layout, but the downtube now straightens out a few inches before the bottom bracket, creating enough room to fit a water bottle, which is a welcome sight.

The shock is no longer attached directly to the swingarm, as it was in past models. Instead, there's a short aluminum link that sits just in front of the seat tube, with two curved links sandwiched inside it that are attached to the shock.


Yeti SB150
Yeti SB150
The shock is driven by a short link mounted just in front of the seat tube.


Yeti debuted their Switch Infinity system four years ago, so the basics should be familiar to many riders, but if you need a refresher, here it is: The system uses two short Kashima-coated rails (courtesy of Fox Shox, who collaborated with Yeti on the design) located just above the bottom bracket to manipulate the bike's axle path. Initially, as the bike goes through its travel the carrier moves upwards on the rails, giving the bike a rearward axle path for improved pedaling performance. As the rear wheel goes deeper into its travel, the mechanism moves downwards, reducing the amount of chain tension for better big hit absorption.


Yeti

Geometry

The SB150's geometry is what truly sets it apart from any of Yeti's previous offerings. It's slacker, with a 64.5-degree head angle, and longer, with a reach of 480mm for a size large. Tall riders haven't been overlooked either – the 505mm reach of the XL should fit riders up to 6'6” without any issues. In order to help keep the bike manageable while climbing, the seat angle sits at an appropriately steep 77-degrees.

Yeti also chose to spec the SB150 with a reduced offset fork (44mm instead of 51mm), which is becoming a common choice when it comes to this category of bike. How much handling difference the reduced offset truly makes is up for debate, but it does reduce the wheelbase slightly, and can add a little more stability at higher speeds.





bigquotesI've spent the better part of the last week riding the SB150 around the trails in Whistler to get a feel for how it handles. While it by no means constitutes the time we'll put in on it for a full review, I've logged quite a few hours and feet (meters) of elevation both up and down on a smorgasbord of trails in the valley.

I'm 5'10", and the size medium, with its 460mm reach, felt longer than what I'm used to, but not in a way that made me consider sizing down. The bike feels well balanced, and put me in a good position to pedal up both steep, soul-crushing fire road climbs along with technical singletrack. When climbing, the bike doesn't need to have the pedaling platform on the shock engaged to minimize bob, as there's not much to be found.

It may seem like a little detail, but having the ability to carry a water bottle in the right spot really is a key feature of the SB150. I enjoyed the way several of Yeti's previous creations rode, most notably the SB5.5, but was I never able to consider a long-term commitment with any of them because there was nowhere appropriate to put a bottle.

Descending, the SB150 feels ready to go to battle. While it pedals uphill as if it has less than 150mm/170mm of travel, it has plenty of brawn for the descents, with a very neutral and centered feel. The suspension stayed active, soaking up small roots and rocks along with larger hits. I rarely reached the end of that 150mm of travel, and the couple times that I did blow thru all those millimeters, it was well deserved. The one nag I have on the spec is the rear tire. The 2.3" Maxxis Aggressor works well, and I'm sure it's well matched to the drier, hardpacked trails around the Yeti headquarters, but I'd personally prefer something with a more aggressive tread pattern, like a DHR II. That's a minor quibble, because otherwise the SB150 is fully ready to get after it right out of the box. We're going to keep on putting the miles in on this blue machine - look for a long term review once we've really put it to the test.
Daniel Sapp








484 Comments

  • + 763
 Somewhere out there, there must be a 150mm bike that pedals uphill as though it has 150mm of travel.
  • + 11
 Comment of the day!
  • + 2
 To the top!
  • + 121
 Heh! I always chuckle at the "but it surprised me at how competently it climbed for a 150mm bike" and want to yell "How does this keep surprising you! You get surprised by every bike!"
  • + 19
 Trek Remedy
  • + 17
 I think they said the Bronson pedaled like a 150mm
  • + 2
 very deserving of the 150 upvotes...
  • + 13
 my 160/170 bike do climb. why?because it needs to, and by the way, I have a 30/11-42 combo and at times push my bike if I can't pedal no more.
  • + 65
 The 160mm Zerode will do ya one better and pedal uphill like it's a 180mm bike!
  • + 20
 To be fair a few years ago climbing up a hill on a 150mm bike was like wadding through a 3 foot thick pool of jello.
  • + 2
 @metong: might be time for Eagle bro...
  • + 1
 @MarcusBrody: Because these dudes are all living in the past....if you want people who aren't surprised by this you need some young bucks who haven't pedaled old boats up hill.
  • + 5
 @Highlander406: still climbing my Kona process orange beast... drag cinder blocks every ride...LOL
  • + 14
 I hear that 180 mm e-bikes pedal like mopeds
  • + 2
 Compared to 10 years ago they all pedal like sin
  • + 1
 @schlockinz: i heard the 120mm pedal like sport bikes!
  • + 1
 @R4Squares: this would be more funny if it wast so true
  • + 3
 Bonus! And you can do barspins. What a time to be alive. Water bottle cages, 150 travel, and a fork that goes under the downturn. Incredible.
  • + 2
 @R4Squares: Haha my last bike as the 2015 process 153, what a beast on the downs... what a beast on the ups. That said it did get the job done tough.
  • + 2
 @gumbytex: really ? My Taniwha climbs really well in trail or climb mode Smile
  • + 1
 @muli3: yep.... my son has the new process 153 (got his med he out grew).... yeah kid gets new bike, dad rides hand me downs...... still love the bike
  • + 1
 @metong: im rocking a 34/10-36 so yeh hills are a struggle sometimes on my 150mm bike
  • + 125
 I really want to see a shootout with this, the firebird 29, Yt Capra 29 Cf Race and all the other sick long travel 29ers out nowadays.
  • + 390
 We’re working on a massive test of 2019 bikes up in Whistler right now.
  • - 12
flag makripper (Aug 26, 2018 at 23:38) (Below Threshold)
 @brianpark: didn't see ya up there this weekend Frown
  • + 15
 @brianpark: I hope it includes the new Genius!
  • + 6
 I agree , I’m almost ready to pull the trigger “yetI” would love to see a shootout before I do
  • + 41
 @brianpark: won't be complete without a smash and ripmo thrown in!!
  • + 26
 @sspiff: +1 of the Ripmo
  • + 1
 @brianpark: gees you guys have a hard job! Looking forward to seeing it!!
  • + 10
 Pivot Cycles wakeup ! blah blah blah excuses for no waterbottle mounts inside on the firebird is unacceptable !
  • + 24
 @brianpark: I hope it includes the Pole machine!
  • + 9
 @brianpark:

Please incl. The Bird Aeris AM9
  • - 10
flag Waldon83 (Aug 27, 2018 at 1:27) (Below Threshold)
 Doesn't have a Trunion shock, brand new and already out of date.
  • + 11
 Kona Process 153 please
  • + 17
 Can't wait to see how 5000$ Capra gonna smash these 10000$ machines.
  • + 29
 @brianpark: Please include something special from Europe. Nicolai. Pole. Stanton. Something that isn't carbon but is properly long, low and slack.
  • + 16
 Great deals are Coming on used SB5 and SB6
  • + 2
 @ajh4446: Starling Murmer... with a properly aligned frame this time.
  • + 1
 @brianpark: Hope the Marin Wolf Ridge is included!
  • + 1
 @brianpark: Looking forward to that Big Grin
  • + 3
 Don't forget the Raaw Madonna!!!
  • + 38
 @endurocat: used Yeti, no warranty... you have better odds for success playing Russian Roulette with a Glock
  • + 14
 knolly fugitive lt
  • + 0
 @thedirtyburritto: @brianpark ME TOO! (although, I've seen plenty of videos showing how capable it is I'd still enjoy a good read)
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly: ouch! that bad eh?
  • - 1
 @zelovocar: doubtful! Especially against a yeti.
  • + 8
 Haha, a pressfit shootout. Skip the audio please.
  • + 1
 @bohns1: I agree this yeti is beast, but still 2times more Blank Stare
  • - 3
 Carbine!!!
  • + 4
 Don't forget the Trek VRX.
  • + 8
 @brianpark: pls include the Commencal Meta AM 29 if possible!
  • + 2
 @brianpark: Include the new Devinci Troy 29
  • + 8
 @sspiff: Stoked to see how the Smash stacks up with these bikes.
  • + 4
 @wibblywobbly: Pssh. I bought my asr5c well used, and I used it well myself. Its now seen 6 years of riding and no issues. I'm also pleased with yeti's support - they still sell small parts for my bike.
  • + 66
 For the prices of these bikes I would like to also see a Husqvarna FE 350 (2018 at just under $10k) added to the shoot out. Now that is an Enduro bike with almost 12 inches of travel, and I hear it goes uphill like it has a motor.
  • + 18
 The Evil Wreckoning which likely will never get into "shoot out" on PB is still the OG in this category. It still has more travel than just about anything save the latest Speshy Enduro (5mm), the lowest of BB heights and doesn't handle like a tug boat.
  • + 5
 @brianpark: That is what I want to see. My hope is that the comparisons are deep like Outdoorgearlabs with Strava times, lots of riders and rankings based on various different attributes and trail types. I've enjoyed the deeper reviews PB has done lately and would like to see that trend to continue further in that direction.
  • + 6
 @Jrsnot: you aren’t supposed to make that comparison. That’s a distraction and not at all a reflection of how much the bike companies are ripping us off.
You would have to spend 80k to get a factory race Husky. To make a 10,000$ mountain bike race ready you would only have to spend like 1,500$ more to make it race worthy and replace oem junk.

A better comparison would be that Husky vs a Kenevo... oh wait
  • + 0
 BH Lynx 5 LT. full float split pivot OTS shock.
  • + 1
 @thedirtyburritto: you mean the new Ransom!
  • + 3
 @brianpark: including a Schwinn right?
  • + 4
 Whoops, sorry. I was not aware that this comparison was so invalid. Maybe I should have compared a direct to consumer bike and a 2018 CRF250 for $5k. @wibblywobbly:
  • + 7
 Maybe true for Sx racing but not enduro. Just get some bark busters and a skid plate, tires of your choice and if you are real picky get the suspension tuned. Most upgrade that most dirtbikers do just make the bike worse. Just sayin. @wibblywobbly:
  • + 3
 I hope you include the Devinci Troy 29 LT @brianpark:
  • + 3
 I second this comment especially the LT build @wheelza:
  • + 1
 @goflowz: I have a hard time believing you can't fit one in there. It may take a little time to find a squatty bottle but you can get a Velcro strap to fit in there. I'm definitely leaning towards a fire bird 29er and this too is a concern
  • + 3
 @zelovocar: no doubt, can by a reasonably spec yt for the cost of the yeti frame....
  • + 1
 @bohns1: lmao this guy gets Yeti
  • + 1
 Too true. @MonsterTruck:
  • + 9
 @Jrsnot: my sarcasm did not come thru. In any case, despite what people in the bike industry will tell you, it’s absurd that a mountain bike costs more than something with a motor and they are ripping us off.
  • + 1
 @cole-bikeva: Sure do... Take my money!
  • + 2
 No it came through and was appreciated, I was adding to it, apparently mine did not come through. I was the first to thumbs up your post. @wibblywobbly:
  • + 1
 @Jrsnot: Need to add in $5K for frequent engine rebuilds. DAMHIK.
  • + 0
 @brianpark: and the new cannondale Jekyl
  • + 1
 Intense Carbine 29!
  • + 1
 @hellbelly: It won't be as good of a climber as this tho.. Its not even as good at climbing as the Hightower lt.. Does smash on the downs tho when I demoed
  • + 4
 Don't forget the GG smash
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly: Except Jared Steinke is racing a bone stock 250 2 stroke in nationals. NEXT!!!!!
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly: I see the errors of my way now, heheheheee
  • + 12
 Don't forget to include my bike in the shootout so you can tell me how great it is and how smart I was to buy it.
  • + 1
 @goflowz: but, but, but, it's got SUPABOOST! Superboost or bottle? BOTTLE please!
  • + 1
 Hope it includes the Mondraker Foxy carbon 29. That's a thing of beauty!
  • + 1
 @zelovocar: yt all day dropping heavy lines without a heavy budget
  • + 2
 @zelovocar: Why review the Capra, they're sold out. Frown
  • + 2
 @brianpark: Rocky Mountain Instinct BC carbon and the new alloy please.
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly: But it is a fair comparisson, as you aren't racing Pro so who cares what the pro bikes do. I have a KTM 690 that is an absolute monster and barely cost more than the top of the line Yeti. There is a valid argument to be made on why the mtn bike costs so much. Instead of focusing on "what if" crap, focus on the reality. Primary reason they cost so much is we will pay for them. Secondary reasons are tied to economies of scale: spreading the cost of R&D, molds, equipment, floor space, etc...over lower volume items. Now what the bike shops charge, that is just crazy.
  • + 2
 @SprSonik: Mostly its that there is barely any R&D cycles. Yamaha is a gigantic manufacturing house, and only changes minute parts of their bikes year to year with a typical 4 year motor redesign atr minimum. The 05-2011 bikes all used the same pistons. It helps drop prices. KTM is going the way of bikes, and changing models all the time.

That said you CAN race a stock MTB or stock Moto competitively atthe international level. The hard part is the support. Replacing tires every ride, rebuilding shocks constantly, replacing frames. The motos explode at the same rate when you're quadding on the limiter for 90 minutes for 4 days a week.
  • + 0
 I hated my sb6c. Was the most flexy bike ever. Reminded me of the old generation of Devinci Wilson (fsr one). I hope the fixed this issue because the water bottle at the right place is a detail...I don't really care if its under the frame, it doesn't make the bike stiffer.
  • + 3
 I've NEVER ridden my sb6 and thought 'wet noodle'
  • + 1
 You Americans and your guns @wibblywobbly:
  • + 1
 @bohns1: You're crazy man... climbs WAY better than a HTLT. I've got 100 miles on my 150 now and my wife has a HTLT. The comparison isn't even close.
  • + 1
 @zelovocar: Probably this will depend on who sponsors more Razz
  • + 91
 They should have named it then Yeti Enduro AF 150.
  • + 11
 Trade mark that quick or someone will steal it!
  • + 9
 @qldmtb: Spesh already did, and will now sue you for even mentioning the word Enduro.
  • + 5
 @Boardlife69: then another, smaller, manufacterer will point out that they actually own the name "Enduro" and license it to Spesh. They will also say to @TheR that he can go ahead and use it.
  • + 4
 I actually lol'd at this
  • + 0
 Yeti SB Hightower
  • + 3
 @moefosho: That's the first thing I thought when I saw it
  • - 3
 Was this Yeti bike, Santa Cruz bikes, and Pivot Cycles all designed by the same guy?
  • + 0
 @RollinFoSho: Of course not... they have different fluorescent colors, duh. Big Grin
  • - 3
 @moefosho: Yeti SB Hightower LT +
  • + 0
 @jimeg: Yeti SB Hightower Mach 5.5
  • + 52
 I own an sb5. Love it. But 3800 for a frame isnt reasonable
  • - 1
 For whatever it's worth, Yeti website says it's 3500. Still expensive, but along the same lines as Santa Cruz for example (Nomad v4 or Bronson v3 frames are 3300).
  • - 5
flag huebs037 (Aug 27, 2018 at 7:38) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah I agree with Rusettipasta, that appears to be what the high end frames are costing from top brands. Also, you are getting a Factory Float X2 with the frame, which is a damn good shock and a pretty penny at that.
  • + 17
 @huebs037: gimme a break justifying a 3800USD frame with the rear shock...
  • + 3
 @huebs037 Just a quick google is telling me I can find an x2 for under 600 pretty easy, so please explain how that helps inflate the price of the frame?
  • + 2
 @mollow: people will pay it.. As soon as the sb130 drops its going to be a case of take my money!
  • + 8
 Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, they all cost a lot. So do Yeti, Pivot, Unno, Santa Cruz, and some other high end bike makes. You wanna ride the nice stuff, pony up the $$$.

Don’t like the prices? Vote with your money.
  • + 3
 As with most anything, there will be a company that makes premium level items for those wanting to spend extra on niceness.
  • + 1
 You'll be able to get the non-turq with a reasonable build for the same price.
  • + 3
 you oughta see what specialized is charging for their new venge frameset. no shock included obviously.
  • + 4
 Why is everyone so surprised. Every Yeti has been about that price for just a frameset. The OP says he has an SB5, Those frames are $3400. Why is another $100 such a huge surprise for this thing?
  • + 4
 @EgoLicentia: It is a high end frame. I don't know what else you're expecting from Yeti. Look at all of their bikes. The frame only option is their premium frame with a high end shock and it is over $3000. Clearly they are selling plenty of bikes because you see 20 of them on every ride here in Colorado.
  • - 2
 @Speeder01: Yeah but there arent much cars for half the price of a Ferrari which drive as good.

A YT or Commencal rides just as good and costs not even half the price....
  • + 0
 @NotNamed: Intense is direct now, too. good prices & sick bikes.
  • + 13
 @huebs037: I’m not saying it isn’t a ‘boutique’ frame by a ‘boutique’ company and to your point they do sell like hot cakes especially here in CO.

My point was that a high end shock on the top tier frame isn’t necessarily a reason for a $3800 frameset.

A good example of this is Intense who are arguably less boutique now that they are neither handmade and are consumer direct. A Carbine SL with a RS super deluxe is $2200, a quick look says the Super is a bit cheaper to find than a X2 but not to the point of being $1600 cheaper.

So let’s look really boutique at a brand like Unno. The Burn is a $5k frameset, but it’s handmade in a first world country, uses a shock which from what I found starts at $650 as is also more boutique than Fox or RS. Does this justify the $5k price tag, to me certainly more so than a frame made in Taiwan and equipped with a relatively run of the mill (but still excellent shock).

And if you want to argue a bike/company that’s popular in CO (at least the front range) let’s look at Guerilla Gravity. A Smash with semi custom paint, welded by a guy I can go and talk to, and equipped with a Push 11-6 is $3260, still $540 cheaper than the SB150 which at that point is a matter of material cost.

Honestly I don’t care who rides what or what material your frame is made of but arguing that the X2 and Yeti boutique are not great justifications for an almost $4k price tag.
  • + 3
 @EgoLicentia: Even though, I guess Yeti makes significantly less money per bike than YT.
I'm in the market for a bike sometime next year and especially in Europe there isn't much difference between prices if you want a carbon frame and that X2. That shock is often not available with the frame and that friggin thing costs nearly 900€ here! 1015 $ to be exact...

If I build my high end dream bike I much rather pay 3800 € and have the frame with the desired shock than paying 3500 € and getting a Super Deluxe like with Santa Cruz.

The only competitive (-ish) priced carbon frames here are Intense (but rather expensive for a direct sales brand) and Ibis. Even a Rocky Mountain Altitude frame with DPX2 costs 3700 € over here...

Last year Yetis cost the same with the DPX2 and the years before they were about 4500 € (5250 $) for the Float X. That's at least something so I'm not complaining...
  • + 1
 @EgoLicentia: Well taken. And good points! For a frame only build, it gets super expensive. But I think $5200 for a GX Eagle build with Fox Performance Elite isn't way out of the ballpark for what other manufacturers are doing. The ibis ripmo is similarly priced at $5100 for the same build. And I think that's where the vast majority of people would look when looking at a new bike.

We all would love to get our dream frame and build it up, but I would really say that is often just not affordable unless you look at used frames or bring parts over from older bikes. So I think the pricing of the complete bikes is a bit more important, and that doesn't seem unreasonable for the market Yeti is looking at.
  • + 1
 @jzPV: a Canyon Torque CF frameset with Factory X2 EVOL Kashima and Reverb costs €2,499.
  • + 1
 Or buy the whole bike for between €3,499 and €3,999.
  • + 1
 @Mac1987: That's one hell of a deal, no question. Especially the complete bikes. But I only have one expensive bike and I will always want that one to be build by myself. I'll ride them for 7-8 years so that's ok in my books. Many people are buying completes but changing after 3 years... mathematically that's more or less the same. And the expensive bike for sure is easier to own for that long of a time if you spec it accordingly.
I own a Canyon road bike though, as that one isn't as important for me.
  • + 48
 Wow, engineers at Yeti have really spent a lot of time here in the comments. Looks like you could fit 2m of bottle in that front triangle. Guess they missed all the press-fit posts tho..
  • + 97
 $3800 frame with a pf bb..... f you.
  • + 23
 Tehehehe $3800 wow! Does it come with a diamond ring.
  • + 92
 Pressfit BB92 is there because it allows them to use wider BB shell to fit the rails of Yetis system. It is really not that hard to figure out. BB92 was made exactly for such situations, to give designers more freedom, like for example when designing shorter stays or complex suspension systems. Just because few companies like Trek (and specialized used to) incorporate it for no reason at all is another story. BB92 with 24mm crank spindle and thus big bearings, is no worse than outboard bearings. Also Shimano decreased the size of their outboard bearings, Sram runs Dub, RF also has 30mm so these days they suck all together. But yeah, keep being awake as fuk and “courageously” call companies out on PF. Not a single engineer using PF cares. Nor does his boss. You may as well open your toilet and scream into it
  • + 148
 @WAKIdesigns: Jokes on you because my toilet has BB92
  • + 22
 @WAKIdesigns: AND you can just get pressfit BB’s with cups that thread together from Wheels Manufacturing and Enduro. Seriously not an issue.
  • + 19
 My architect made initial plans to use a BB2200 for my master bathroom toilet, butt when he was made aware or the massive flow he changed to a BB4000.
  • + 62
 The word toilet gets mentioned and Browner and Fecalmaster immediately join the discussion. With pretty decent comments ofcourse, as such niche animals.
  • + 1
 @Wamprat: and the Token Ninja.
  • + 2
 @IntoTheEverflow: these comments are getting flushed into the ever flow
  • + 37
 @browner: Mine has trunion mount for the cover. Then 5-step flush with separate high and low speed circuits. Eliminates nastiest spreads and biggest full floaters. Takes bottom outs like a hero, never had a rebound.
  • + 1
 It´s obvious they really did it. Besides the water bottle, they are using the metric sistem for naming their new bikes. Wow...
  • + 1
 @ShempHoward: where have you been bud? That's the going rate of frame admission these days with the big boys!
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: Pressfit still sucks.
  • + 12
 Anybody else remember when John Pentecost said this:
"Guys-

Regarding bottle cage placement, I asked the design team about this and their sound-bite response was something to the effect of "you can either have a bottle inside the front triangle or a bike that rides awesome... pick one."
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: so Canfield bros got this thing completely wrong. Super short cs, threaded bb, no boost and shit lots of room for rubber. Maybe you should explain them bb92/boost theory so they fit tractor tire on Riot
  • + 1
 @kanasasa: pfff, why did you say they got it wrong, because I didn’t? If canfield designer decided that he is fine with losing 19mm of hub shell width it’s cool. Especially since his clients wouldn’t be able to tell the difference anyways. I don’t know what is your problem really. Anyone who has issue with BB92 should first and foremost have issue with a*sholes pushing 30mm spindles into MTB and morons buying into stiffness to weight ratio game. Shimano is one of the last men standing with 24mm axles giving room for larger bearings thus increasing reliability. But well that requires you to think outside of the box and all you know is that al pressfita are made equal, all outboard bearings are made equal, and the latter is more betters
  • + 1
 @WasatchEnduro: Agreed. That is stupid money for $6-800 landing cost.
  • + 1
 I just bought a diamond ring set with TEN diamonds in it total for less than the frame alone. @ShempHoward:
  • + 6
 @WAKIdesigns: does it flush as though it has much less than 3.6 gallons in it?
  • + 0
 @bohns1: Been here with my 6 bikes not paying sucker retail prices.
  • + 2
 @IntoTheEverflow: Now enter's yourself doing the same, welcome to the conversation bowl winder.
  • + 6
 @MikeAzBS: Hahaha... c'mon man, that was like, 3 years ago! I've been over here at Pivot for about a year now, and it looks like they've figured some things out since then. Congrats to Yeti on a cool new bike.
  • + 8
 @Christianjurkowski: Thanks for reminding us that there are way more pointless ways of spending your money than buying high end mtb parts.
  • + 2
 @Trailsoup: Are you single?
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I am finding the Real World Cycling bottom bracket with angular contact bearings to be a very worthy upgrade for the Race Face cranks with 30 mm spindle. You are right, the RF bottom brackets don't seem to last very long. In my experience, by the 1000 mile point they are crunchy.

I guess that makes me a moron in your view but I bought into the 30 mm spindle and this is how I'm making it work.
  • + 2
 @jtpentecost: lol, I just enjoy busting engineers balls. (I'm an aerospace machinist) Had to name drop you to qualify the statement. Ask any engineer what they exclaimed as "not possible" 1 year prior, and they will certainly need to pull their foot out of their mouth to answer you lol.
  • + 2
 @fecalmaster: i was only entering the conversation because the comment above me mentioned flow....
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: pressfit was introduced to reduce manufacturing costs at scale. Not to have a wider bb. This was already possible with threaded bb.
  • + 1
 @IntoTheEverflow: Sounds good however we're still here discussing.
  • + 1
 @Christianjurkowski: Congrats if it is a new engagement, but dude, 10 diamonds for under $4k...you are a fool for posting that on a website where someone (the one who got the ring?) might see it and realize a bike cost more than her ring.
  • + 1
 @MikeAzBS: How much memory will home computers needWink
  • + 1
 @SprSonik: Uhh, unless you get like a $20k+ ring, or one of those multi-million celebrity several-hundred-carat rings... yeah, there will be a bike that costs more. Sigh.
  • + 3
 @SprSonik: She doesn’t use Pinkbike. I’m not worried about it. She also said yes!
  • + 0
 @Keit: pressfit BB30 indeed. Some a*sholes like a few pseudo Legendary Italian roadie brands didn’t even bother to install A BB shell going through from one side to another, guess how that worked out for their so fkng elite frames. Bb92 was a development towards utilizing what could be achieved. If you ask me, I’d defo like shimano threaded outboard bearings over any pressfit but there’s more to the bike than this.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I go further. I want threaded Headset cups. But its a cost scale thing.
  • + 37
 I make a very good income and yet I wouldn't even consider dropping that amount on a frame alone. That is ludicrous. It is beautiful, though. When Ibis, Evil, Santa Cruz start looking like bargains something is wrong with the price.
  • + 13
 It is not ridiculous when people buy it. Yeti understands it's market.
  • + 3
 @mollow: Yeti Marketing: Did you just spend all day smelling other peoples bad breath while you pull out their teeth? Then this is the bike for you. Turn that root canal into roost somehow. - Skills not included, void where prohibited, may be subject to lame dentist jokes and cause internal wallet bleeding.
  • - 5
flag Svinyard (Aug 27, 2018 at 11:05) (Below Threshold)
 @Boardlife69: Yeti: Brought to you by Crest! Proudly sponsored by the American Dental Association.
  • - 2
 Actually if you want an X2 in your bike an Evil or Santa will be more expensive than this. And Evils can be bought direct...
  • + 4
 @jzPV: That simply isn't true, at least for US buyers. I can have a new Evil with both the stock shock and an X2 for a couple hundred less than this, same with the SC.
  • + 4
 @mollow: Lots of things happen and are still ridiculous. But yes, people will still buy it.
  • + 4
 @Boardlife69: the dentist joke is old news dude
  • + 1
 @mfmediocremtb: there is no X2 upgrade available directly from Evil neither in the US nor in Europe and they can't do it if you ask. And Santa Cruz offers only the Super Deluxe in Europe for 3499 € (Bronson) or 3599 € (Nomad). I couldn't find any Info on Santa Cruz in the US. So at least for Europe it is surely not as bad as it looks (if you want that shock...)
  • + 3
 Even intense frames with x2 shocks are almost 1k less....
  • + 2
 @mfmediocremtb: Really? The Wreckoning isn't available on their website with a X2. That means it would cost about $3700 for the frame with both shocks, or it can be purchased with the 11-6 for $4k. That's consumer direct as well with Evil cutting out a bike shop.
  • + 7
 @jzPV: but Santa Cruz aren't boutique. They are just another mass produced far eastern frame with excellent marketing
  • + 3
 @dualsuspensiondave: you can get an X2 for under 500 pretty easily if you are patient, bringing you to 3600 with both shocks. The difference in price of X2 and dpx2 is a couple hundred, having that shock doesn't justify the price. Just because I think it's silly doesn't mean it is, though. Many of my colleagues drive 150 thousand dollar cars and I drive a Subaru, I just have a hard time justifying extravagance. To each his own.
  • + 35
 What are 99% of customers meant to do with a 170mm 29er? It's a pure race bike. I can't believe they added all that linkage and weight just to get a water bottle in. Do people not go far enough away from their car to need a decent drink, tools, first aid kits and a jacket anymore?
  • + 56
 Some of us live near proper mountains, and yes we go further than 1km from our car.
  • - 4
flag thesharkman (Aug 27, 2018 at 1:57) (Below Threshold)
 I know I rarely do. I tend to lap road climbs to trail descents and fuel up at my vehicle each time around so being able to just use a water bottle on the frame is an absolute requirement. As for tools, I'm close enough to limp it back to the vehicle. I recently fell in love with the firebird 29 and ruled it out at the last second because of that missing component.
  • + 7
 You can still ride some hours with even a small bottle if it is not super hot. I don't feel the need for a backpack riding spots that I know don't stretch out too far. As soon as I'm in the real mountains I use the backpack as an addition, but still keep the bottle to keep the weight on my back low. For enduro races it is usually enough to have the bottle only.
  • + 5
 With a 77 degree seat tube angle coupled with switch infinity, this bike will pedal long days better than you are giving it credit for. The key is not every ride is 30 miles, in fact I would bet the normal ride length is 10-15 miles at best. Perfect for water bottles on the bike. In mountain towns, it's generally up the mountain and straight back down.
  • - 3
 I've never missed not having a bottle on my Yeti. I realize hydration is important but a couple hours without water isn't going to result in even moderate dehydration unless there are extenuating circumstances. Danny Chew once proved that point by riding 300KM (road) without any water or food... Not suggesting trying that but the other extreme is similarly silly.

For longer rides I bring a backpack with an emergency blanket, slightly more tools, and a light jacket. It's also a great place to stash my pads or helmet for the long slogs out.
  • - 8
flag TheRaven Plus (Aug 27, 2018 at 6:08) (Below Threshold)
 What completely boggles my mind is how anyone manages to keep a water bottle in their frame while riding an enduro bike on enduro terrain. For me and my circle of riding buddies, it has proven impossible. Any bottle that starts the ride never makes it to the end.
  • + 17
 @dualsuspensiondave: I can't imagine doing a 15 mile ride without a pack. I'll easily drink 1.5 L of water on a sub 10 mile loop.
  • + 2
 @TheRaven: funny you say that, I've never once had an issue with it but I don't have a side-loading cage on my Sentinel. But during my last race there were 3-4 bottles on every stage.
  • + 0
 I can do a 30km loop with a 1500m of climbing in a couple hours and still have half a bottle left when I get back!.
  • - 7
flag TheRaven Plus (Aug 27, 2018 at 7:55) (Below Threshold)
 @briceps: Yeah and I got downvoted for my observance of reality. Guess those riders have never seen rocks before.
  • + 2
 I need it to hold my bearspray in a bearcozy, fluid is on my back, now that's important for us that mountain bike in areas with bears.
  • + 1
 I did 2.5 hours with 18 miles and 3300' of climbing yesterday on a single bottle in 93 degree heat. It was not on purpose, but unfortunately the water spigot at the top was broken. If I had known that there was no water at the top I would have carried another bottle in my bib. It wasn't terrible though. For tools I carry a multi tool, 3x25 gram CO2 and tire plugs. Running CushCore means that a spare tube would do nothing for me anyway, but I could carry one if necessary. Haven't run a pack in several years even at places like Downieville or other long back country rides. With Swat bibs or similar there is simply no reason.
  • - 5
flag dualsuspensiondave (Aug 27, 2018 at 8:14) (Below Threshold)
 @rrolly: Wow, you should get that checked out. I have Hyperhydrosis and I don't need drink near that much. Maybe hydrating before the ride will help you out.
  • + 14
 @TheRaven: I rode Downieville DH on a hardtail yesterday (and ripped it), and my bottle is still with me. Maybe you just buy really shit cages?
  • + 4
 @salespunk: having a bottle in your bib screams like broken back for me...
  • + 6
 @dualsuspensiondave: not it's entirely normal to drink 1.5L of water during a ride. I know you guys like showing off by saying you don't drink water when riding but really, it's impossible. Every single person I ride with needs more than 500 ml of water for 2 hours+ ride
  • + 12
 @mollow: Everybody is Aaron Gwin on the internet. You didn't know that?

For me it really depends on the humidity...in the fall and spring I barely drink anything. But in the summer I drink about 1L/hr.
  • - 2
 @mollow: I assume you live in a paralell universe where Earth has constant temperature on each point of it’s surface? Please call NASA a d tell them how to get through the wormhole. Because when I am having a spring 2h ride in +5C I am fine with 0.5L of water. When I ride for 2h in +35C I’ll easily drink 1,5L. The only constant thing is how much I hate backpacks and if I can get 0,5L out of it, or not wear it at all, I am damn happy.
  • + 8
 As a redhead riding in 95-100F heat in the summer my body sweats out about 2 bottles per hour, a single bottle only works for under 1500k feet of climbing and then I drink a bunch when I get home. Totally depends on genes, where you live, and how hard you are pushing.
  • + 1
 @jasdo: Yeah I usually run a single bottle for 1000 ft little shortty rides. After that, its nice to have a bottle that is mixed with sugar drank of some sort, and then a regular water pack, though I've gone for the enduro sweet bro fixie fanny bag
  • + 0
 @TheRaven: what's more likely, that you and your buddies are so awesome that you're losing bottles nonstop, and everyone on PB is terrible, and that's why no one else is losing bottles, or that you just have crappy bottle cages and that's why you're losing bottles.

i will never buy a specialized bike again, but i have to give it to them for their Zee cage. side entry, never lost a bottle, and i very likely ride rockier terrain than you do. i recommend it to everyone that i see lose a bottle
  • + 2
 @genericparkrider: downieville on a hardtail is so fun! I can only do one run though, legs are toast at the bottom.
  • + 1
 @rrolly: ME too man!
  • + 3
 What am I gonna do with this 170mm 29”? Let off the brakes and haul ass every time the trail tips down. The rougher the better. This bike looks rad. I can’t wait to ride one.
  • + 1
 @mollow: Show off? What? I just said that I have a condition that makes me sweat profusely, which requires me to drink more than most. My body does not require 1.5L to ride 10 miles.
  • + 1
 @Speeder01: I learned that a dozen of folks have a problem with too capable bikes since they make them feel that they need to push harder and at some point they just wet their pants. I am like that with DH bikes. It takes balls and skill to pull a long travel bike to the edge of it's potential. Anyone can take a HT or Down Country to it's limit. Hence while overbiked syndrome is a fact for many Joeys out there, quite a few chicken out and settle for less.
  • + 3
 @brncr6: Yeah buddy! It was super gnar and I'd never ridden there before. My hands definitely needed a rest after 3rd divide. It's quite humorous passing people on $5k+ full sus bikes while riding a steel 26er hardtail Wink Tire inserts make a huge difference
  • + 2
 @TheRaven: Or maybe you've got to learn to ride smoother... just kidding :p
  • + 4
 Must say that I’m glad a bottle cage mount will never dictate a bike purchase for me. If I rode Xc I could see the appeal of not having a pack, but the trails I ride and enjoy all have Knarly sections that are going to test you and the risk of crashing is always there. For that reason alone I’m always glad to have the added protection of a pack on my back, the same way I’ll always ride with knee pads. When riding the DH bike I always wear body armour so doesn’t seem any different, especially as some of the trails I pedal up to are just as rough as some of the lift accessed ones. Being able to stash keys, phone, tools etc off the bike and out of the pockets is also a big plus. All the tears, dirt and wear on my current pack that would otherwise be tattooed across my back are reason enough why a bottle won’t cut it for me and these long travel bikes are meant for burly riding.......... aren’t they??
  • - 1
 @Prh: big bikes are meant for burly riding. Exactly. That’s why I don’t want anything dangling on my back so that my 1,5h-2h after work ride feels like runs in the bike park with food bag at the bottom station of the lift.
  • + 1
 If you don't want that much bike, vote with your money! But there are plenty of us that do want a bike that can ride that hard and still pedal. And if descending is what a rider really cares about 30lbs is not too bad at all to get it back up the mountain.
  • + 1
 whether it’s on your back or on your bike your still pedalling the same weight. My point was the backpack gives you the added bonus of protection. If I was just riding bike park I’d be wearing body armour anyway so would be no need for backpack.
  • + 2
 @igxqrrl: Drink H2O!
  • + 3
 @salespunk: what about first aid kit or do you never fall off either
  • + 1
 I drink water at the top of the lift and at the bottom. If I get injured and can't descend, the medics will give me water as I'm waiting for the helo or getting driven down. Water availability is why I only ride park.
  • + 21
 I changed four words in this paragraph. "It may seem like a little detail, but having the ability to carry my drinkie in the right spot really is a key feature of the SB150. I enjoyed the way several of Yeti's previous creations rode, most notably the SB5.5, but was I never able to consider a long-term commitment with any of them because there was nowhere appropriate to put my drinkie."
  • + 19
 SB130 on their homepage now:

new.yeticycles.com/bikes/sb130
  • + 3
 Wow!! That looks incredible.
  • + 3
 Not there anymore (
  • + 0
 That looked great, still pressfit though and whomever designed that webpage should be taken out back and kicked. Its laggy .
  • + 4
 Anyone get a screenshot?
  • + 4
 @Rider-TJones: SB5 29er replacement with a 65.5 HA. Drool.
  • + 3
 @Rider-TJones: it looked just like the 150. but slack and also 77 seat. I would much prefer that one over the 150.
  • + 2
 seems like they are only updating 29er models because of the hype for next season... a shame because the oldest bike in the lineup is the SB6. Hopefully they'll make that one into a SB150 counterpart and not a more or less park bike a la nomad.
  • + 2
 If I keep clicking these SB130 links, I'm almost guaranteed to get rickrolled at some point.
  • + 12
 I have to say, $3,500+ dollars for a frame only. With how fast things change and a general disinterest in after-sales support across the industry, Nicolai's 10 year guarantee for spare parts has me considering.

en.nicolai-bicycles.com/frames/ion-g15
  • + 1
 Yeti also launched a new warranty for 2019 frames and newer.

Directly from their website: "HERE’S EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OUR LIFETIME WARRANTY: All 2019 (or newer) frames, including the Switch Infinity link, are covered for life against damage due to manufacturing defects for the original purchaser. Paint and finish are covered for 1-year. We will repair or replace, at our discretion, any frame we deem defective. There are a few conditions: you must register it online at YetiCycles.com/registration and you must take it to an authorized Yeti Cycles dealer for processing. Warranty does not cover damage due to ordinary wear and tear, neglect or intentional destruction. From a slingshot or your truck. If you happen to have a crash or non-warranty situation, we’ll get you back on the trail with a reasonable replacement price. Same conditions as above. Lifetime Warranty applies to all 2019 and newer frames (including the SB100). Model year 2018 and older frames will be covered under our previous warranty (5-year or 2-year based on time of purchase). Simple as that. No fine print."
  • + 4
 @discsinthesky: Not the point. It isn't going to do you much good to not be able to get a piece of pivot hardware in 4 years if they won't/don't have it. That isn't warranty and they won't give you a new frame. Also Yeti makes the standard "deem" defective so it means nothing. Landing is an impact event and not covered by warranty according to trek. I'm just saying it's cool if you can get a hanger in 10 years, you're triangle might be roasted, but they're atleast supporting things.
  • + 2
 @raditude: 10 years is a long as time to be on one bike.. I flip and sell every three and just swap components and buy frames.. Recoup a bit of coin that way anyways.. All I know is when the sb130 drops its going to be a case of take my money!
  • + 6
 @bohns1: It is a long time to be on one bike. 100% agree. My point is that we drool over these super bikes and they just aren't built to last and lose their values incredibly rapidly. The idea that a bike could last 10 years sounds ridiculous because we have accepted the buy and flip methodology. Bike companies count on it and have to. I'd love to be able to invest in something and be able to keep it going for a decade.
  • + 2
 @raditude: I would as well but that's just not the way the industry is going unfortunately.. It will become like the tech world... Your shit will be outdated and parts not available by year 4 of the release. Companies need outlets to keep making money..
  • + 0
 @bohns1: Yea, if only Nicolai would update to a metric shock. That is its Achilles heel.
  • + 2
 @raditude: This is definitely a fast moving industry, especially in the high-end market. But Yeti does a pretty good job supporting both their current and older generation frames, factory-direct from their website without the need to go through a dealer. www.yeticycles.com/gear/parts?filters=0&page=1
  • + 1
 @general-lee: It is commendable. 303 DH owners would still be covered for another year though Smile . Not to mention they'd still be riding 47lb monster trucks with 66HTA.
  • + 2
 @raditude: @discsinthesky: I do wish these warranties would replicate that of a Nordstrom or REI policy. If you're paying top dollar for a Yeti frame or complete build, support should be there when you crash because you will crash. This is a accident prone sport by nature and now we are designing bikes that aren't as durable and costs that much more.

Why my worries on warranty... the Yeti is prone to breaking despite being represented by one of the roughest, bulldogish, bad ass, trail crushing riders in the sport. Something I thought was a thing of the past, still seeing new models not hold up here in SoCal. Frames are cracking and/or busting.

Kind of falls in line with the iPhone model... up price and make less durable due to the thought of replacement in a couple of years. Love the way my SB5.5 rides (best bike I've ever riden), just sucks having that feeling I will not have the support when an issue may arise upon an off /rant
  • + 1
 @redssjerm: I mean we just have to adjust expectations that bikes are make of carbon or aluminum with a total weight of 50 lbs for trail bikes, and they'll last forever.
  • + 1
 @discsinthesky: Bummer because my 5.5 Turq is only 2 months old.....
  • + 11
 These prices are insanity. Literally $4k more for this than a comparably-equipped burly 29er La Sal Peak from Fezzari with carbon wheels. How much longer are people going to be willing to pay that upcharge that solely goes to two additional hands the bike passes through between Yeti and the consumer?
  • + 5
 It will keep increasing as long as there are people who want a bike that says I've got more money than you.
  • + 4
 Wow, a lot to love with that La Sal Peak. Pinkbiker's dream right there!
  • + 4
 @iduckett: yeah and I forgot to mention that Fezzari has LIFETIME FRAME WARRANTIES!
  • + 3
 Yeah, Fezzari has smashed it out of the park with the La Sal Peak... now if only I had a few spare grand, and a smoke-less sky to breathe...
  • + 2
 Yeah the new Fezzari looks friggin solid, especially considering price
  • + 3
 @EgoLicentia: Yeti has realized industry people are the best salesmen, give a good discount off the retail price and they'll buy. What they ride gets the "dentist" to ignore price and ride what the die-hards ride. Pro-deals and bro deals are easily accessible for the college kids working pt at bike shops. (shop workers than get a fair price on the resale). It all works out nicely! Personally, I think higher profit margins are a great thing, more r&d and more profits! if everyone just bought a yt on a budget i don't think there would be the cash flow to invest in new tech!
  • + 14
 Soooo anyone want to buy a "lightly used, mint condition Yeti SB5.5" hahaha
  • - 11
flag Mntneer (Aug 26, 2018 at 23:19) (Below Threshold)
 Yep. I'm about to have to post my wreckoning frame up for sale
  • + 8
 I wouldn't the 5.5 is a killer ride.
  • + 4
 Was thinking the same thing, sell it while it’s worth yeti resale haha can’t afford this though, thinking that new Fezzari bike
  • + 3
 I just might be looking for deals on the 5.5 if people want to unload them. This 150 is too much bike for my needs. The 5.5 is killer.
  • + 2
 @TheR: only if you are a smaller rider. Freaking the XL SB5.5 has like only 463mm of reach iirc. That's rediculously short. SB150 size LARGE has 480mm.
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: Yeah, I'm pretty average sized and evenly proportioned. I have no problem finding bikes that fit. Just go with a large. This new wave of long and slack, though, I'm starting to see larges that are too big, and mediums that are too small. First-world problems, right?
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: I currently ride an XL 5.5 Turq and it has a similar reach and fit to my XL Orbea Occam TR the only big measurement difference is that the Yeti has 810mm bars while the Orbea has 800mm bars.
  • + 1
 @sbrdude1: it's only 463mm of reach man on SB5.5. That's super freaking low for that style of bike. When I reviewed the visualizations (x/y quadrants) of reach for XL bike of similar type 2 yrs ago, it was by far one of the smallest reach bikes manufactured. Fast forward today and it's the same as Yeti's medium bike for the bike that replaced it. It was a flawed bike in XL for taller guys even back then let alone today. The beauty is that bikes today have so much more reach and length that everything finally fits us for the first time...tho I even wonder if it's gone to far (new reach in XL is 505!).
  • + 9
 I'm not a believer in the carbon frames that extend horizontally from the bb, on a few of the trails I've ridden in Wales there have been loose sections that have fired rocks into my down tube and dented it pretty severely. Is it fair to wonder if that'd crack a carbon frame or is it that much more resistant to impact than alloy? Particularly when the downtube is that much more exposed.
  • + 3
 Higher resistance to a point, even had awful sounding impacts on my carbon down tube(trek slash) but no visible damage also have Invisiframe fitted. Alloy frames are paper thin and can dent.
  • + 7
 I have a carbon protector in that spot, over a carbon frame and the protector has taken 2 rocks that have done significant visible damage, the frame behind seems fine though. Moral of the story - get a protector for sure!
  • + 2
 It is most definitely fair to wonder if you take a hit with a carbon frame. Even if it looks good from the exterior, there can been plenty of damage to layers internally and on the back side of the frame tube. This right here is the main reason I would never own a carbon mtb frame as they are currently designed and manufactured. The beauty of an aluminum (or steel) frame is that it does leave witness to the damage, i.e. dents and cracks, and can be repaired with more confidence in the frame's integrity.

Materials aside, that horizontal down tube looks absolutely terrifying for going full speed into a chunky rock garden...
  • + 8
 In all honesty the article on this new bike told me nothing. For instance why did they redesign the suspension design? Was it purely to fit in a bottle or have they tweaked the leverage curve on the shock at all? It's all super high level and tells me nothing about what they wanted to achieve over the old frames.
  • + 2
 Amen!
  • + 6
 I find it amazing they made that switch link opposite of the SB100. That bike looks so good. This looks like an Eiffel tower of ass in the middle of two triangles.
  • + 12
 Mmmmmmm...today's bikes are just so good.
  • + 4
 Thank you, too many can’t wrap their head around this. And I am happy Yeti keeps staying at the forefront.
  • + 3
 They are, but this is way more expensive than it needs to be for all that "goodness". Just as good for far less can be had which is wonderful for the sport. This bike is for rich brand sluts surely?
  • + 0
 @headshot: it is still cheaper than Rocky Mountain if I remember right. And rocky has nothing else to offer over Norco or Transition.
  • + 1
 Rocky: we've released a more affordable version of our bike!

5000$ with fox performance, level brakes, slx drivetrain and shitty wheels. How stoked are you guys, this is so affordable!
  • + 4
 @mollow: That's only true if you are willing to take Yeti's low-end Carbon (which with Yeti...I dunno). With Rocky you get the primo carbon at that Price point. Rocky Instinct BC frame is 2800$ new and Yeti's is freaking 3800$!!
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: no I'm talking about rocky's alloy models. (CDN $)
  • + 1
 @mollow: huh? The RM Instinct Alloy version with the same DPX2/36 performance as this Yeti, similar travel and a horrible paint job is 3700$usd (approx 4800$ Cad?). It has guide/code mix brakes (code calipers) and GX drive train. RF rims/DTSwiss hubs aren't the best but not total trash. Not a horrible component set for the price. Maybe you are talking about a Rocky bike that doesn't compare to this yeti?

FWIW, the similar alloy Sentinel GX is 4300$ (nicer comp set) and their NX version (shitty comp set, include suspension) is 3200$ (all USD).
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: This X 100... I have a 2013 SB66 that it’s such a great bike, I am barely even tempted by these newer models. It blows me away how good bikes are right now, and Yeti has always been right at the sharp end.
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: most of you guys fail to understand the difference the difference between performance elite and the simple performance line from Fox. They are massively different and the Transition does come with the Elite, not the rocky.
  • + 1
 @mollow: take it easy. That isn't lost on me and I also dug into it. For 2019 i don't think Fox is making performance anymore so it's basically Factory or Performance Elite (no Kashima). The dampers are all the same now (fox doesn't show performance on their website for 2019). I agree the difference between elite and performance was a good damper and worth the extra cost if that is still true.
  • + 11
 $3800 for frame only??? Are you kidding me?
  • - 4
flag Loamhuck (Aug 27, 2018 at 9:19) (Below Threshold)
 Rip-off. They have to be making 3-400% on these things. The build process is stable, minimal process change, minimal ENG change. It's laughable.
  • + 3
 @Loamhuck: Making carbon molds is a bloody fortune. I'm not saying the price isn't exorbitant because it is (comparable frames with very nice Carbon are around 1000k$ cheaper). They do need to make up for that R&D cost in addition to the molds while making a nice profit at the same time.
  • + 6
 @Svinyard: Exactly my thoughts, If you only factor in material costs, these bikes would sell for much less. Unfortunately, this is a business that has significant fixed costs, like molds, R&D investments, etc. For a relatively low volume manufacturer, they need to sell at a higher price point to break-even. Yeti is likely investing a lot in R&D to keep their niche in the very high-end segment. It's not a business that prints money like Coca Cola.
  • + 2
 @guylovesbike: Agreed that most people don't include overhead costs in their valuation of a particular product. I also concur that I won't spend that but I'm sure Yeti (and others) have some pretty good accountants and investors that do this math for them and don't care about the folks who think it's crazy.

I also have to imagine that the marketing budget is pretty comparable to the R&D budget, but I don't have any grounds to claim that. Either way, it's not like Yeti charges people to watch what seems like high-quality/expensive edits. I'd also hope Yeti has generous benefits for the nice people that work there.
  • + 1
 @bigwheels87: Mandatory lunch rides for starters...
  • + 1
 yeah! bike industry don't worry about investment in r&d or financial stability we want it cheappp!
  • + 1
 @Loamhuck: Dont know why youre being downvoted, right on the money.
  • + 9
 WTF +10K for “made in china boutique” with mismatching cashima and parts from 4k CUBE??
I would rather go for tailored Nicolai or UNNO+ Direttissima+ trip to Alps
  • + 7
 As someone who's 6'6" I'm happy that there is finally a Yeti I could theoretically ride. But I'm not sure the folks at Yeti have ever met someone who's 6'6" who could ride a 118mm head tube without a stack of spacers. Tall people do not slam their stems. Period. And for $3800 I would expect them to have considered that. A 40mm rise bar is a dirty option on such a pretty bike.
  • - 1
 Have you ever demoed a Yeti? I'm 6'5 and ride an XL 2016 SB5c and its pretty roomy. Granted I have spacers under the stem, but im riding with flat bars. You should try it before knocking it for such a shallow reason. You cant just stare at a geometry chart and get a complete feel.
  • + 2
 @Palytoxin: it's not freaking roomy dude unless you are talking about only the stack or have an extremely odd body. I'm 6-4 and all of the Yetis SB5 and SB5.5 were way short. Even . Immediately the bike fit guys were like "yeah dude that's too short". When I worked with Santa Cruz directly they were like "yeah the 5010 isn't going to fit you right, it's too small in XL" and that bike is similar to SB5.
  • + 5
 @Svinyard: Totally. 505mm of reach is nowhere near enough for a 6'6" person when the STA gets to 77'. @Palytoxin: Enjoy the luxury of not knowing any better.
  • + 1
 @alexsin: What do you ride that fits well?
  • + 1
 Stack and reach are what you should be looking at. 170mm is a tall fork on a 29er it brings the front end right up. What's wrong with a 35mm x35 bar? I think that looks good!
  • + 1
 @re-ride66: Have you seen RR's set-up?
  • + 5
 This comment section is a thing of beauty. Don’t like the Yeti or it’s price tag? Don’t get one. If you have the means and desire to go out and buy one, do it and enjoy a kick ass bike.

Canfield Riot For the win!!! Only other bikes I’d really be interested in personally would be a GG smash or Pole evolink
  • + 5
 This guy actually writes lines about a water bottle cage being important, so important that it has stopped him from buying this bike in the past, yet there is no water bottle on the bike he is riding in the pics. Whats more, there is a water bottle in the non-riding pics! Maybe I don't ride enough, but the number of people I've actually seen out on the trails this year with a water bottle on their frame is less than 20. Lets take this ridiculous focus on water bottles out of the conversation, and put it in your favorite hydration pack like everyone else. To end my rant, I'll say: if the lack of water bottle availability on your bike is what makes you choose a different bike, you aren't looking for the right things.
  • + 2
 Yeah I just use the 5L dakine hip pack with the 2L bladder and never really see myself wanting a bike with space for a water bottle. Some are obsessed with having all the weight off the back but I really don’t even notice it with the hip pack, then in turn my bike is lighter. Haha
  • + 8
 77° seattube angle ? Cool, brands are getting serious with "modern geometries" with steep seattube.
  • + 4
 I was wondering about that switch infinity link - everyone was worried about crap getting in it and damage to the system/degradation of performance when it came out.
We're now a couple of years in (I think) - what are they like to live with?
What is the service life of the system?
Have they ever caused issues for the owner, and if so are they a cheap and easy to sort as a cartridge bearing (which is essentially what the system replaces)?
  • + 4
 Ive had an SB6c for over 2 years, the infinity link is pretty low maintenance. I push grease through the ports every 3-4months and have dismantled and cleaned the unit twice during rebuilds. It has shown 0 sign of wear so far. Only gripe is that my frame has "loose" or untidy carbon layup internally around the seat tube/BB junction making the dropper routing, which was already tricky, a bloody nightmare as I have to navigate the housing through loose carbon sheets.
  • - 1
 @Jungaloo: hwuaaaaaat?! That’s easily a case for warranty. That’s structural damage
  • + 12
 @WAKIdesigns: No that's just the bike industry's standard low-quality layup.
  • + 1
 I have a 2015 SB5c still on the original switch infinity link and it is still in perfect condition. I grease it once a month and clean it out with an old toothbrush after wet rides. The pivot bearings, including those in the slider are replaceable like every other bike and last about the same. I have just put the first set of replacement bearings in it, cost me less than AUD100.
Replacement Switch seem easy enough to get but set you back about AUD400/GBP230 for the unit.
There was a lot of fear of wear when they first debuted but IMO that is unfounded. The system works amazingly well and last when properly maintained. Great bikes. Love mine.
  • + 2
 Ive had the 6c for two years, and I grease the infinity after every ride. One stanchion has worn through the kashima. re-packed the bearings a few times. The platform pedals well, but it doesn't feel as bottomless as some of my mates newer bikes. It's a good bike, but I'm ready for a new rig.
  • + 1
 @sam264: It doesn’t need to be common across the whole industry. After all, when Raoul Luescher cut up Light Bicycle and ENVE rims it was the LB having better layup Smile
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: It doesn't need to be, but it mostly is. I've worked on some "high end" carbon bikes that were absolutely shocking.
  • + 3
 @Waldon83: why on earth are you greasing it that often? They even say on their site the intervals for greasing. No wonder the kashima is gone on one of your stanchions. Sheesh
  • - 2
 @andnyleswillriot: he probably power washes it too hence the kashima wearing off lmao. This is the kind of people that buy 10 000$ bicycles
  • + 0
 @sam264: I can buy that, but my problem with rambling against bicycle industry is that bikes are completely different animals to aerospace and automotive. Elements are smaller and more complex. This may raise the question: why bother then, but frankly, the "because we can" explanation does me right.
  • + 2
 I originally followed greasing intervals, still lost a bit of kashima coating. And that's not riding in slop either, mostly dry hardback. Since greasing it more often, I haven't lost any more of the coating. I am going to replace the bearings in the dog bone link and the entire infinity link anyway, and two years of ridings at least once a week, I'm not too concerned.
  • + 7
 Frame only $3800 FK OFF YETI
  • + 5
 Yeti Warranty Page:
"NO FINE PRINT. NO BS."

Also "We will repair or replace, at our discretion, any frame we deem defective."

Lifetime warranty but not really.
  • + 6
 I feel like the number one design goal of this bike was to allow it to carry a bottle.
  • + 3
 Reduced offset fork shortens the wheelbase and can add more stability at higher speeds? This seems like a bit of a contradiction. I would like to know just how much difference to overall ride it makes. I'm assuming it is almost negligible in most instances (kind of hoping so as the owner of a 51mm offset fork lol).
  • + 2
 Shorter fork offset increases the mechanical trail number - the metric most people tie to "stability". Having ridden bikes in stock HA/51mm offset and then in 1.5 angleset/44mm offset, they both ride well. But the reduced offset/slack angle setup seemed to give a bit better traction in the front wheel and cause the front & rear wheels to arc more similarly.

Long story short - go ride what you have and have fun, but these new geo ideas are pretty awesome too.
  • + 6
 @tremeer023, the difference isn't drastic between a 51 and 44mm offset - I've done a lot of back to back testing, and found that I can easily get used to either one within a couple laps.
  • + 2
 @mikekazimer: I have a half of my riding friends who would agree with this and the other half argue that 51 is the way to go. Personally I think going "back" to 44 makes the bike feel like the front wheel wants to "tuck" under hard cornering. This "new" offset option is interesting because Gary Fisher brought G2 (51) to the masses and I think it's probably all my time on the short travel 29ers of yesterday but, yeah, I cannot get into anything other than 51. I wonder if others counter my thoughts, or agree. All I can say is that 51 feels correct while 44 makes me question every corner. Fork rake is a topic that deserves it's own article... that happened not that long ago maybe?
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: that's good to hear. Thanks for the reply.
  • + 3
 Reduced offset is what I'd describe as a "nice to have" I'm gonna be running a 42mm offset on my Ripmo. I ride a Sentinel right now with 51mm and it rides great. I'd probably fail a blind test so take that for what its worth.
  • + 2
 Its not a contradiction, but a poor way of phrasing it. Reduced fork offset increases the geometric trail. Steering axis projects on the ground in front of the contact patch. Reducing the fork offset means you move the contact patch further back w.r.t steering axis, and while shortening the wheelbase, you increase the trail. Increased trail on mtbs helps with stability in the rough stuff. If you hit a rock, the contact patch moves up the tire. If the contact patch crosses the steering axis, and the handlebars are turned, they will jerk in your hands. However, wheelbase is the more important factor in overall handling, because it affects the weight distribution. For motocross guys, they use the same reduced offset fork clamps, but for opposite effect to make the bikes steer quicker. Smaller offset brings the front wheel back into the bike and thus adds weight to it, which helps it dig into the dirt and pull the bike and rider around.
  • + 1
 I've got a 42mm offset Lyrik on my Pole 131 and it's rad. That said, I haven't tried it with anything else, so I can't really give you any direct experience with the contrast. All I know is it's quick to turn while I'm going slow, and stable as hell when I'm going fast.
  • + 1
 @phops: that sounds like a good explanation. I've read a bit about fork trail and how it affects handling. The thing I notice most with a longer offset is the slight floppy feel at low speeds.
Not going to lose any sleep over it until it's time to replace the fork though.
  • + 3
 I find the chain stay is on the short side while the reach is really massive (I was expecting 470mm for Large, but not 482mm). Does the long reach bring your center of body mass more forward, so that a short chain stay works?
  • + 6
 I hope more manufacturers would address this. It seems like the CS is optimized for M size, which makes the XL way front heavy. At least have two different lengths - 433mm for S & M, and 443mm for L & XL.

I have 448mm on my current size XL frame and it feels very good compared to other 'ultra short' CS's I've tried.
  • + 4
 Probably the most important comments here. If you're buying anything larger than a medium (and I'll argue that the rear centre is too short on that size) the sizing is definitely suboptimal.
  • + 2
 @jclnv: I agree but damn, the bike is already 1277mm long in an XL. That's nuts. It's not that fun riding an ultra long bike like Hightower XXL (1260mm iirc) and this is even longer. What might still be rad in a medium might totally suck in an XL. I haven't ridden this bike but I'm just not sold on the super long stuff in 29er for the non racers (and even some of them). Maybe I'm wrong tho
  • - 1
 @Svinyard: I bet your cat that if you take 20mm off the reach on that XL and put it on the rear centre it would have way better F/R grip balance (faster).
  • + 3
 @jclnv: i'm not so sure. bikes with long reach and short chainstays tend to pull your weight forward on to your hands when in the attack position. at first this seems wrong because we've all been told "heavy feet, light hands", but putting some weight on your hands on a bike like this evens things back out and give you a ton of grip in the front.

i of course haven't ridden this bike, but my experiences with Transitions 2018 demo fleet, which have very similar reach and CS lengths, made me realize how much grip you can get out of a bike that, from the numbers, you would assume would take weight off the front, when it fact, it puts weight more weight on the front and keeps you out of the back seat
  • + 2
 @xeren: Yep you can add some front grip by actively putting more weight through the bars but just imagine if you didn't have to! Just think how much more sense it makes to be In a neutral position that allows the rider to make easy F/R grip bias changes rather than hanging over the bars. That way we have a bike that corners just as predictably on a flat corner or a 30 degree rutted switchback.
  • + 2
 No. At this price level there should be at least a chainstay length for the smaller sizes and one for the bigger sizes.
  • + 2
 @jclnv: but the longer reach makes the weight on the bars automatic. it's not something you have to think about. as a result, you can make easy F/R grip bias changes like any other bike.
  • + 2
 I had a Medium Whyte G160 with a 470mm reach and 420mm chainstays, I've just got rid of it as always felt it never gave you a balanced riding position.
  • + 1
 @walterwhyte: to each their own. i was blown away by bikes with long reach and short chainstays like the kona process and the transition smuggler and scouts. they feel more balanced than any other bikes i've ridden in the past.

i'm not surprised that more and more geometries are going in this direction- it's an incredibly confidence inspiring design because it makes it so hard to pull back on the bars in sketchy situations, so you maintain grip. maybe someone who has been riding for longer than me (5 years) is just used to shorter reach and it feels "wrong" to be putting more weight on the bars?
  • + 1
 They put the long reach so that you sit more forward and weigh the front wheel, since Yeti is so adamant about the bike climbing well.
  • + 1
 @xeren: You really descend over the bars on steep stuff? Do you hit jumps in the same position?

If your bike is so rear biased and you aren't in exactly the right over the bars position when you hit jump it'll kill you because you have to run far more rear spring rate. Regardless of how it feels our weight goes through the BB. It's easy to verify with a set of bathroom scales.
  • + 2
 @jclnv: yes, i stay over the bars on descents, because that's the way you're supposed to do it. there's a reason there's a "mythbusters" about descending here on pinkbike:

www.pinkbike.com/u/zeptechniques/blog/zeps-how-to-mythbusters-position-amp-balance-for-steeps-amp-heavy-braking.html

TL;DR: if you are getting way back to keep your weight centered, you are losing your flexibility in dealing with drops and unexpected changes in the trail. you should be getting low over the bars, not back

it sounds like you've never ridden any of these bikes. it's far more natural than you're imagining. as i said, there's a reason that bikes in the last few years are trending toward short chainstays and long reaches. it works really really well. i highly recommend trying one of these bikes.

remember, all mountain bike geo is a slow, multi-decade long pull away from road bike geometry. just because it seemed right 10 years ago doesn't mean it was the most effective way to design a bike
  • + 1
 @xeren: sounds like you are a size M. It's pure economics: most bikes sold are M, so if you're only going to have one length CS then you are doing it for that size. When you then put +5cm more to the reach on larger sizes but keep the exact same rear center it's like a different bike. Size M and XL are totally different bikes and it's not the XL that has the carefully thought out balance.

Besides, short time bike geo changes are going towards whatever the latest rave is. Maybe in the long run we get better overall but the year-to-year changes are about maximizing profit by selling what the consumer thinks he wants.
  • + 1
 @xeren: Specialized invented the "short chainstays" marketing craze. Interestingly they've recently released a limited production Stumpjumper Evo with a 445mm for "maximum front grip".

Have a look at the rear centre length on true cutting edge bikes like the Pole Machine or Geometron.
  • + 2
 @alexsin: Yes, it really comes down to this. You can't skimp on the cost of having different chainstay length for different frame size if you are selling a premium product at a premium price point.
I wish @yeticycles gets this fixed with 2020-21 product update, instead of just some meager change to graphics design and/or components specs, because, save for the head tube length in XL, I really like this bike. Bikes should be optimized for frame size, especially at this price point.
  • + 1
 @niplo: nope, i'm a large
  • + 1
 @jclnv: "where the industry is going" is not the same as "cutting edge bikes". pole is an outlier.

either way, i'm not saying that you can't make a good bike in other ways, only that it'd ridiculous to say that short CS, long reach bikes aren't good bikes. i'm here telling you that i'm a huge fan of them, they work really, really well and have insane front grip. i'm not telling you that they are the only way to make a bike, but it sounds like you're trying taking the opposite extreme position
  • + 6
 Used SB 5.5 prices about to nose dive... Nice looking bike and well thought out numbers!!
  • + 2
 yeah for sure, im pumped to maybe get a 5.5 next year for a good price.
  • + 3
 Haha...been approx 7yrs of SB and finally the water bottle issue has been solved...lol...I will still go out and enjoy the ride on my SB66c/152mm rear till they get the 6 beer holder in place then I will upgrade.
And I too find that my 152mm pedals techy steeps better then my 1985 Rocky M Sherpa.
  • + 2
 I mean this sounds cool but an XL bike 1277mm long. That's SUPER long. The Ripmo is super long at something like 1250mm. There is no getting around it that a longer bike has some disadvantages, especially on a 29er. Is this really a good thing for the non pro level riders (or even them)?
  • + 2
 I'd like to know if the flat going to the BB will be an issue. To me that looks like a an easy place to smash on rocks where I would normally trust a chainring mounted bash guard to protect the bike. Maybe this will be brought up in the long term review.
  • + 3
 Anyone else worried about hitting the shock stanchion every time you pull out the water bottle?

And yes, they finally give us a bottle mount and I'm still finding something to complain about.
  • + 5
 Tire clearance? I feel like that's the most important into in product announcement after travel and geometry.
  • + 3
 SHOCK EXTENDER - A patent pending wishbone shock extender was developed to change the leverage ratio and shock clearance.
They patented a shock yoke!?
  • + 5
 Coming to a Tacoma near you
  • - 1
 In a back of a Tacoma
  • + 3
 Press fit bb again. I have an sb6 & I’m so fed up of having a creaking bottom bracket I wouldn’t buy another bike with press fit again.
  • + 0
 Bad install. My SB6 hasn’t creaked once and it’s been through four BBs (raceface ones sucked).
  • + 5
 You are so fed up but couldn't be bothered to get a thread-together BB from wheels and fix it for 100$? Come on dude
  • + 2
 @mungbean: no, it's not (necessarily) a bad install. there are tiny tolerance differences that can lead to creaking. i had two PF bikes, one creaked all the time, the other never did, install and BB's were equal.

@birnie look into loctite 641. it's made to prevent creaking.
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: After dropping $3800 on a frame I need to install a $100 adapter? Come on dude.
  • + 2
 @Nizhoni: Lol...you realize that 3800$ frame doesn't come with a BB installed right? You get to pick which BB you want, purchase that and install it. Better check your wrench. Come on dude.

Fwiw, I'm not saying a new bike should creak (that's a quality issue), but someone is "Fed up", thus indicating exasperation over time...its a really simple fix that is common knowledge.
  • + 4
 There is something gone really wrong if for a 10k bike we take time to talk about the water bottle as a benefit...
  • + 1
 On paper this bike checks all the boxes and is fully on trend.

I am also excited not to see Super Boost. Maybe that isn’t a thing?

But holy crap, this thing is a terrible value. For 6100$ Santa Cruz at least gives you the good carbon! And I have some confidence that a Santa Cruz won’t break. The “low end” Yeti carbon means “lower quality”. Yeti is cutting corners some place in their builds because they break... a lot. Like a lot of Kona’s broke back in the day and the stink still lingers around Kona. How Yeti has avoided that stigma is beyond me. The $$$ customer base doesn’t care to blow them up online like 17 year old Kona owners in 2007 I guess.

Never, ever buy a used Yeti....
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly I bought a used alloy sb95 frame a few years ago for $1k and it's been a great bike, and value, for me. I don't see it letting me down anytime soon, nor do I feel a need to "upgrade", but if I did I'd look elsewhere. Yeti has really gone off the deep end lately. Never say never though, they have made some great bikes over the years.
  • + 1
 Kona's strategy is rather simple. They told everyone their carbon got better and proceeded to inflate their price so much to make people think they are premium quality.

*sigh*
  • + 4
 Talks about water bottle 4 times... picture of actually riding the bike, doesnt take a water bottle with him
  • + 1
 Is this bike worth it guys? I mean, Yeti is a good bike as what other people say but is it worth the price? Now, I'm eyeing to the Conspiracy Premium Build from Morpheus, actually this is how it looks www.morpheusbikes.com/product-page/conspiracy-premiun-build.
  • + 1
 Then you see the GEO and realize it isn't that long. At 6' 1" I would probably go for the XL and a 35mm stem. Really the only other option is the LG and a 50mm stem. It being 10mm shorter than the LG I have now throws it off a bit. A 25mm stem on the XL could work.
  • + 4
 All the water bottle talk and then no water bottle in the riding photo. Think I'll keep my SB5.5 and wear a camelbak.
  • + 1
 I wondered if anyone else noticed this....
  • + 3
 I'm glad they finally put on their website lifetime warranty! That would be the biggest news really... more so than the water bottle thingy.
  • + 3
 Every bike review seems to 'pedal like it has less than XXXmm travel' isn't it time to adjust our expectations to how all modern bikes perform?
  • + 1
 Dear Giant,
Wake up and smell the LT in the air. NO one cares about your 130mm "new" 29er. You teased us that a LT 29er was coming and yet you delivered the same recycled junk from 5 yrs ago. You are now behind the 8 ball and all the consumer money is going to anyone that can make a decent LT 29. Well played Yeti. Nice bike.
  • + 1
 Yeah, cause no one cared about the Process 111
  • + 0
 @mtbikeaddict: 5 years ago everyone cared. today were ready to move on to better things...
  • + 2
 I can get a number of carbon frames from some of the top bike companies for under $3k so guess who’s not getting my money? Yeti and Specialized lol
  • + 3
 $3800 just for a Turq frame.... very funny yeti. Now please give us the real prices
  • + 2
 Sick bike! I hope it pushes Santa Cruz to bring out an improved HTLT next year!!! (I like Yeti but my LBS is an SC dealer and my current HTLT is 'almost' perfect.)
  • + 1
 I just did a side by side to the Pivot Firebird after the comments here. It looks a LOT like the Firebird, even down to the tight shock and the extra little link in there and the rear triangle. Weird.
  • + 3
 Yeah, but geometry is so close to a copy of the sbg transition sentinel
  • + 3
 Won't commit to a bike without water bottle holder, but picture show no water bottle cage. Wink
  • + 1
 This bike looks great...new SB130 in the works. New LIFETIME WARRANTY. Yeti is really killing it lately. I absolutely love the Firebird29...can't wait to see how this stacks up!
  • + 3
 Nothing like a fresh pot of Cuban coffee and pinkebike comments to start the day.......
  • + 1
 lol....or french roast
  • + 0
 The less-curvaceous swingarm and kinked downtube change the signature Yeti look more than I would have expected. Definitely a looker - and I'm a steadfast proponent of bottle space - but I'll have to mull this one over.

(Such is Yeti's credibility that looks really are a more pressing question than performance!)
  • + 4
 Fuwark. Shut up and take my money! Oh wait, I don't have any....
  • + 3
 I wonder if Yeti sent Lars and crew at Transition a thank you card for designing "their" new bike?
  • + 4
 Another longer, slacker and lower "affordable" new frame.
  • + 2
 Looks like a fantastic frame. But whats with the color options? Not everyone wants to look like they just rolled out of a rave. I miss the Stealth days of Yeti.
  • + 1
 wow looks ace. some of the old frames cracked but the new carbon layup must be working well especially having Richie putting them through their paces. Still the best looking bikes around....
  • + 2
 Hmmm a flight back home for Christmas with the fam, or a quarter of this bike... Priorities hey
  • + 3
 Rate, rise, and squat graphs required.
  • + 3
 No super boost rear hub? Win.
  • + 1
 Absolutely awesome looking bike, spot on geo and build specs. Only downside is pressfit BB, but I have no idea who is going to buy these things at that price...
  • + 3
 460 reach on a medium??? Not for me.
  • + 2
 As a small rider, im glad to see yeti offer a bike with short chainstays and a lower seat tube. Well done yeti.
  • - 1
 This bike is prime candidate for Super Boost 157mm but they stick with regular boost?

I'm not a fan of the price as for the frameset price you can get complete Capra or something similar, but then again some brands charge more for road bikes that don't have suspension, so...
  • + 3
 Complains about the rear tire!?
  • + 2
 I know right? The Aggressor has been the most highly-praised tire of late! Plus the fact that, you know, that tire combo is what Rude rides. Obviously coincidental...
  • + 4
 SPEEDBALANCEGEOMETRY
  • + 3
 "Holds water bottle" was all I needed to know.
  • + 3
 Looks like a.... Mach 5.5???
  • + 1
 'Looks sweet! Everyone should off-load their SB5.5's at deeply dicounted price to get one!" (Goes straight to 'Buy Sell' listings). Smile
  • + 1
 Stopped reading the review when I saw the MSRPs. Is the switch doohickey like the ol' Kona 'magic link' or what ever it was called?
  • + 2
 Looks like the new dream bike has arrived! It may be pricy, but there's no doubt that it kicks @$$.
  • - 1
 Hello there,

let me tell You a story about my experience with YT-Industries and why now I tell all my friends to never, ever buy a bike from them....

1. It all started on 18.04.2018 when I ordered a bike online. It said they would get in touch with me in 2 days. Which they didn't.

2. They sent the bike to a different address than they said they would... (quite annoying when you're waiting for a bike at one place for a whole day just to find out it was sent elsewhere.)

3. After getting my new bike I found out the rebound adjustment on the shock didn't work. Contacted YT. Got an information I should send my shock without any mounting hardware. But there were two black tubes I couldn't remove from the shock. Sent an email asking if it was OK to send the shock with them. ....and I had to wait A WHOLE WEEK to get a reply to such a simple question...

4. After receiving my shock they sent me an email saying that they are going to contact me when the package is ready to be sent back to Poland. Which they didn't and sent it right away. I was on vacation at that time and had trouble rerouteing the package to my workplace so it wouldn't go back to Germany. Really annoying...

5. After coming back from my vacation I got to work to open the package from YT just to find out they sent me different shock... Which I had to send back

6. Then they sent my shock making a mistake in my address so I had to drive across the city to pick it up myself from DHL.

7. When I opened the package I found out they sent the shock without the black tubes mentioned in point 3 so I can't install it in my bike.

8. After waiting for another few weeks I finally got my mounting hardware. Installed the shock in my bike just to find out the shock rebound adjustment IS STILL BROKEN!!! IT WORKS THE WAY IT DID BEFORE I SENT IT TO YT-INDUSTRIES!!!!

That is it! (for now)

The bottom line is I ordered a bike in April. Now it is August and I still can't ride my new bike. YT-Industries ruined my biking season!
  • + 2
 Just to make sure, you know this article is for a new Yeti bike, and has nothing to do with YT, right?
  • + 5
 @huebs037: But there’s always at least “ I can buy ten YTs for that price” comment whenever a high priced superbike is released.
  • + 1
 Wow. Not riding for 4 months. I was thinking you were gonna say you just got it, since for everyone else, they're out of stock for that long. Big Grin
  • + 2
 The orange looks amazing. Definitely going to look into demoing one of these.
  • + 1
 I went back through Richie Rude’s insta of that April Fools SB304, and looking at this design I’m wondering if that maybe wasn’t so much of an April Fools joke
  • + 0
 Great looking bike! A fresh colour! Finally a XL that fit's taller riders! A bit more flex sounds great too cause with a Yeti you know it won't brake but you've got more grip and a bit of comfort!
  • + 2
 U-line called.. they want their royalties for using one of their Boxes in the seat tube! lol
  • + 0
 let go of the water bottle thing already! its great, but shouldn't be a decided factor. Been on a 5.5 for almost 2 years without any problems. People freak out about not having it.
  • + 2
 What happened to the DH bike they were working on? How about SB7 with a 180 rear and can take DC or SC?
  • + 3
 Glad to see they are sticking with the blue pepto scheme.
  • + 2
 Also why have we not yet seen a SWAT water bladder inside the carbon frame?
  • + 2
 Well, maybe it's got a good personality.
  • + 1
 Rave revues about every new bike that hits the market, keeps PB and every other site/page in business. FLAVOR OF THE DAY!!!
  • + 0
 I still don't understand this obsession with water bottle mounts? Why would you want to ruin that sexy sleek carbon look with an ugly plastic water bottle?
  • + 4
 I like drinking water and I don’t like hydration packs
  • + 1
 I saw there was a new Yeti so I came in to see some nice video and what !?!? NO VIDEO !?!?
  • + 1
 On the site there is also a new sb130 and accompanying video.
  • + 1
 Hmmm... Maybe it's time to trade up from my 2013 SB66 to this wicked cool bike.
  • + 1
 i don't like this kind of bottom tube, it's too large to take some stone and shit hits...
  • + 1
 Not Super Boost. Pivot may be in trouble if Trek and/or Specialized choose to ignore it next.
  • + 1
 Geometry is in the database already... geometrygeeks.bike/bike/yeti-sb150-2019
(thanks, whoever that was)
  • + 1
 Is the starling murmur getting thrown into that test?@brianpark ? Carbon cracks !!
  • + 2
 What about rear tire clearance?
  • + 2
 Only room for one water bottle?! Ppppffftt...
  • + 2
 flip the 29 and you get 26. can't wait for the 26" version
  • + 1
 Pretty sure they are now giving out low interest 15 year loans out now for bikes. If anyone needs help, let me know.
  • + 1
 Im just waiting to read: This looks like a bla bla, bla bla and bla bla bla all together.
  • + 2
 Why are bikes getting so loooooong.
  • + 2
 Looks like a hightower. Yeti infinity switch aka virtual pivoting point.
  • + 2
 cool. now make one in aluminum
  • + 3
 3800 Frame ONLY??? WT
  • + 2
 Yetis new slogan for 2019 -> we still want you to have PF BB.
  • + 2
 "cutting edge", yeah, whatever you say
  • + 1
 Press'en her'feet ...harder...screw this shit. 68-73-83 is all a lad will need....next!
  • + 2
 Frame only 3800$.
For a made in Taiwan plastic frame.
  • + 0
 Pretty insane the frame design hoops they need to jump through with that switch infinity stuff just to nearly replicate DW-Link.
  • + 2
 They’re not trying to replicate the DW link haha theyre similar but really achieve different goals
  • + 2
 good for the occasional ride of the dentist
  • + 2
 Should of went super boost .That rear end flexes like a mofo.
  • + 0
 Does the price of the frame include a years worth of happy endings from Linda Woo who made my frame!
  • + 2
 Ripmo is prettier
  • + 1
 Certainly looks the biz but 38hundo frame only cost?!?!? ????????
  • + 1
 funny how its more expensive than an EBIKE.
  • + 1
 Depends on the model of E-bike/Yeti
  • + 2
 $3800. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • + 1
 64.5 HTA. Did nobody notice that?
  • + 1
 Santa Cruz Bronson for sale!!!
  • + 2
 Would consider.
  • + 1
 Hubba Hubba Drool the new SB130 is beautiful as well !!!!
  • + 1
 Why is this not called the SB69?
  • + 1
 I'm just gonna say it. This is a beaut.
  • + 1
 Anyone else think it looks like a Santa Cruz???
  • + 3
 I take that back
  • + 5
 If they were going to take anything from Santa Cruz it should have been a threaded BB.
  • + 0
 this must be #fakenews! Yetis never come with a waterbottle in reachable position :-) me like!
  • + 2
 Cracking good bike
  • + 1
 i'm 6'6" and the reach on the XL would fit Shaq
  • + 0
 Looks exactly like a Firebird 29 other then its ability to holster a waterbottle
  • + 2
 *than*
  • + 2
 looks like a session
  • + 1
 That shock link is twisting my mind.
  • + 1
 Another Chinese plastic bike for the shelf.
  • + 1
 If this bike is $5199, why is the SB100 still $5999?
  • + 1
 water bottle on a yeti, guys, whoa.
  • + 2
 talks about it 4 times.... but picture of riding the bike he doesnt take one with him...
  • + 1
 Sexy AF.
  • + 1
 Stopped reading at 29er
  • + 0
 This is my dream bike. I love it!!!
  • - 1
 Wow looks amazing! And there's room for a water bottle, looking forward to long term review.
  • + 0
 Beautiful... but i still love my 5.5...
  • + 3
 Yeah, me too. But if i was gonna change my 5.5 it would be this. +20mm in reach, More progressive linkage, slacker w/ short offset, and add a bottle.
  • + 1
 That bike is perfect!!!
  • + 1
 Hideousness
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