Graham Agassiz on Evil Bikes for 2019

 Good to see the Pinkbike comment section pun-a-thons alive and well, glad they remain Undead.

 @NoahColorado, I wreckon that the puns will never end among this faction of bike nerds.

 There is a Faction of people here that want a DH bike for Aggy to Wreck

 I Wreckon it didn't take a lot of convincing, Evil and Aggy make eachother a Little Betterer

 @NoahColorado: although Evil killed the undead, that wheelsize was caught up by insurgent offerings. Hope they put a black Ribbon on it.

 Aggy has a Sovereign ability on two wheels and should usher in an era of Canadian Imperialism.

 I'm dreading the Rusty trombone references ....

 @Boardlife69: never! There are no bad puns friend.

 @Dudeclimbsrocks: nobody got my saggy reference. SAG + Aggy? Saggy? Anybody?

 @WAKIdesigns: Whoosh

 @WAKIdesigns: I gotchu! Bad pun for a fellow Bad Punner!

 @Boardlife69: and yours went whoosh over my head!

 I thought it would cause quite the Uprising when Aggy left Kona...

 @RFrogh: word on the street is there is one in the works.

 @Dudeclimbsrocks: Maybe because the Revolt is not Undead?

 I heard Chamois Davis Jr. was really excited about the move.

 I wonder if I hold the record, 290km and the rear triangle failed. No warranty. Evil bikes are the worst bike company I've ever had the misfortune to deal with. Fucking cowboys.

 came here to say this, with Evil's great reputation of "cracking" DH bikes I can't wait to see what he does to them

 evil had issues in the past but they fixed that and you are speaking without owning or riding their newer bikes. dont be a troll...

 @gunslingger: Well what I seen about them fixing it was ignoring everyones warranty claims and moving on to make good enduro bikes

 going on the same evil bike 4 years now, in rowdy PNW year round riding and not a single issue. Since they moved carbon manufacturing to the same plant Santa Cruz uses they've been as solid as...well, a Santa Cruz.

Anyone who'd rather piss on Evils past than ride their bikes is their loss quite frankly

 Same thing happened to me, cracked my frame under normal riding conditions and within their stated warranty period and they refused to replace the frame. I'll never buy evil again no matter what people say about them these days.

 @esander: Duthie doesn't count as roudy lol

 @danlovesbikes: wow

 @DHryder: what else would you expect from a company called evil lol

 @danlovesbikes & @DHryder: Sorry to hear that you've had a less than positive experience with Evil. If you don't mind quoting me you Evil Support Ticket number(s), I would like to track down what happened in your case.

 50/50 on a 40ft stepdown. Cracked the swingarm on my wreckoning. Evil gave me kudos for riding out of it and a fresh new swingarm. I’ve heard the horror stories but they did me right!

 @taquitos: I live in Snoqualmie Ridge. Backyard trails are Tiger/27/Raging River, bike has multiple rides a week on em - but don't worry we're all still very impressed with your wit

 @esander: Everyone loves that Duthie back country!

 @toad321: haha, amen.

 @taquitos: Way more than Duthie out there, you really need to get out more lol

 @esander: I guess you don't get it then

 @EvilBikesCustomerService: no idea, speak to the bike shop TBE, Perth. I bought it through them, they handled warranty. Such a shame, I really loved that bike.

 @danlovesbikes: Message us your contact info. I want to track down what happened.

 @EvilBikesCustomerService: You guys told me that you moved warehouses and didn't keep the molds for the frame I had. #19647

 Alice!

 Considering they've been throwing boxxers on their trail bikes, I think its about time.

 Exactly what I just thought. I'd love to see more big rigs with devilish names like Evil Undead or Airborne Pathogens...just like Scott Ian picked Anthrax to be his band's name...hahaha

 Time for a new version of the Evil Empire DH

 maybe evil wont have issues with a downhill bike this time around...

 Their LBs can fit Dual Crowns.

 Just bring back the undead, sickest DH bike even after so many years of it being "dead"! Shit wasn't Filip Polc racing street DH on a undead up until 2017 even though they stopped making them in 2013?

 From what I hear, Pacific Cycles still has about 200 undead frames hanging up in the warehouse. If you send someone over there you might be able to find one or two that are straight.

 @jaame: savage!

 Double post

 @WAKIdesigns: Sorry I meant Revolt frames, not Undead.

Listening to people in the know, that design puts an obscene amount of stress through some pretty tiny moving parts. It's no surprise they all broke.

My friend bought a Revolt. When it broke they made him pay the crash replacement price to trade up to a carbon Undead. Then the aluminium part coming out of the carbon at the front of the swingarm started cracking all around. He was told hey, don't worry. It's not structural.

I couldn't believe it. Total bag of wank that bike. And the Revolt too. I'm no expert but that design looks fundamentally the same today as it has always been. I wouldn't buy one, no matter how many five star reviews it got.

 That happened with mine too and was told they wouldn’t make another DH bike as they can’t sell enough @jaame:

 @dirtyrig: he was racing what he had lol.

 @jaame: I can imagine how small bits would be problematic, and even if you made them ultra strong, the load would go to all bearings and axles. But at the same time DW uses small pieces a lot, even linkage in first Ibis and Turners had small links, and not all of them fail - so it may have been crappy materials. Evil ordering small bits and not being treated seriously by the manufacturer, who could have been an ahole. What I mean is, I don't know, and cannot bother keeping it in my head. I won't buy an Evil because it is expensive as new and too rare to buy on second hand market.

 @dirtyrig: I wish I still had mine it was the best bike I ever had except.... 418 reach in xl wasn’t ideal but such a sick bike

 Difficult to release a DH bike today... more even if it's 27.5. But best luck anyway! Surprise us.

 @Mondbiker: Maybe, but the dude had sponsors knocking at his door, but still did not want to let go of his undead and did you see what he put that bike through and it took it?

 probably more of a freeride bike. my guess is less than 200mm of travel and lots of ramp up.

 Hopefully..just make an AL bike evil!!

 @jrocksdh: evil doesn't have the best track record with aluminum frames...

 @SnowshoeRider4Life: Thats what I was thinking is a bike 180-190 travel with dual or single crown options, possibly a 7 speed option as well would be sick.

 I'd like to see a "Dr. EVIL" with a little intro with Mike Myers like YT did with Walken

 @trails801: Yeah baby, Yeah!

 @adrennan: factories are dialed now with hydroforming-evil is bigger now...

 Evil might have had bad customer warranty support in the past, but they have been nothing but great for me

 @Mntneer:
They stitched me up good mate.
Brand new Insurgent frame lasted 2 months before it snapped. All they offered was a replacement swing arm for $1000.
There warranty & bikes aren’t worth there weight in shit. f*ck EVIL

 @cavanagh-88: crash replacement swing arms shouldn't be anywhere near that much. Unfortunately, I'm assuming that it has something to do with import duties

 @Mntneer:
I was spewing because all they offered was a $1000 swing arm, when they should have been giving it to me for free.
Piss poor on there behalf.
Every time we see a evil out on the trails we cringe & feel sorry for the poor bastard riding it

 @cavanagh-88: they are so evil...Never trust the brand in the first place.

 The best warranty is the one you never heard

 @fracasnoxteam: The best warranty is the one you never need.

 Haha. Mine's okay, but I tried calling them, and got nowhere. Better than nothing. I had a Norco 5Hun frame, and the headtube was ovalized, and chainstay damaged, so I was just looking for the closest thing I could find.

 @cavanagh-88: Most Bike companys Charge 1000USD for the whole frame- but hey they dont come in toothpaste torquiose.

 @Mntneer: Same here. I still have and ride my Undead without any issues and I'm 195 lbs. I also have The Following V1 as my do it all trail bike, I beat the shit out of that bike with no issues. I've been riding my Undead for 5 years and Following 4 years. Evil has also been so cool to deal with, when the undead was discontinued, I called them months later just to stock up on spair parts and they hooked me up! The guys went out of their way to search and scavange parts for me. I also have 3 other friends that have been on evils with no issues.

 Amen

 @cavanagh-88: wow

 @cavanagh-88: Could you provide me with your Evil Support Ticket number please? I'd like to track down what happened in your case.

 @EvilBikesCustomerService: you really think anyone still has their ticket number? That’s like McDonald’s asking me for my order number from an order they screwed up last year haha

 @CaliCol: except it's not a 10$ order.

Keep safe or take photos of every important documents. That's what cloud is for.

 @CaliCol: Umm ya they do. It's all based via email... which is searchable. Technology is a wonderful thing.

 What's the zink story?

 Wasn't that YT who bailed on Zink's distribution deal?

 Pretty sure Zink has never been sponsored by YT. Are you thinking of Hyper?

 Sorry, I mean Evil

 @clarky78: sure he is. www.yt-industries.com/en/world-of-yt/yt-family/rider-a/6/cameron-zink

 @gbeaks33: I meant he's never been on evil. Everybody knows he's on Yt. But pinkbike is retarded and won't let me edit or delete posts.

 @clarky78: haha fair enough.

 @clarky78: i guess u missed a rampage or two eh?

 @clarky78: yes he rode evils.

 @jrocksdh: when?

 @clarky78: m.pinkbike.com/news/cam-zink-evil-monster-2011.html

 @giantwhip: Okay, news to me!

 @clarky78: It's ok. I didn't know he rode for Haro until I watched NWD7. His segment is wicked

 Extremely small production numbers drive up cost.

 Especially surprising given that approximately 100% of their first few models ripped themselves apart because of stresses on that totally awesome on paper linkage

 Hype train choooooo chooooo

 The Agony

 @sewer-rat:

 The overdraft.

 Bellingham is about to get even more RADICAL

 @nw-rhb: In a very subdued kind of way...

 Is Luke still part of the program?

 yes! i wonder if agassiz has ever been to duthie back country?

 Have you ever heard that up in Canada some has managed to bread mini hippo's and they are keeping them as pets? Don't believe everything you read on the internet, but if you do, that's your business. The fact is Evil stands behind our products that we make and nine out of ten times you read a horror story it's because someone is upset with our warranty assessment. In the cases above, I'm still tracking down one because the warranty was handled by the shop of purchase and in the other case there was impact damage and modification of the frame itself. Evil provides any owner of an Evil bike with crash replacement parts at an attainable price. If you wreck and send your bike through a rock garden, we have your back with in-stock and ready to ship front and rear triangles. Warranty doesn't cover user error. When you crash your car, do you chase the car company for a warranty?

 @EvilBikesCustomerService: it was said in jest more than anything.

 @EvilBikesCustomerService: the cause of the cracks on my frame were not from crashing, but you guys wouldn’t know that because you never actually looked at my frame. You may think some of us former customers are being petty by talking shit about your company, but all we’re trying to do is keep others from making the same mistake. At the time I was making a living by riding my bike (coaching mtb camps and working in bike shops), and as a teenager I didn’t have the money to just go out and buy new frames when they failed. I had a great track record with trek and santa cruz regarding warranty repairs/replacements, so I decided to take a chance with evil seeing as you did offer a decent warranty at the time and your frames looked awesome (and still do). In my case it was a $3,000 mistake. You say your warranty is top notch, and maybe you have better support these days, but I don’t think I could take the chance again to find out.

 It is.

 what else will he ride at rampage? it will be interesting to see what happens

 @Ron-C:

‘Evil’ jersey while riding a blacked out/unmarked Operator.

 The Insurgent isn't a 26er: www.pinkbike.com/news/evil-insurgent-review-2015.html. And Evil are welcome to submit a bike for review anytime they'd like.

 @mikekazimer: right? 2015 was like just yesterday

 @Mntneer, it sure feels like it sometimes.

 @hitechredneck: word on the street is that bike companies do indeed need to pay for a review.

 @mikekazimer: it kind of sounds like if companies dont send PB a bike to review, then you would have to go purchase one yourself in order to do a review. That doesnt sound very possible. Perhaps everyone should think about that before they yell about not reviewing this or that bike.

I do agree though, it would be nice to see some of the newer evil bikes reviewed, and im not sure why evil wouldnt do that, since this is a decent sized audience.

 The anti establishment mentality may be to blame here. I kind of dig it from a small company.

 @mikekazimer: do a commentated video of just a guy watching a video of someone riding the Evil.

"Well right around this spot, it looks like the suspension cushions that little bump there..."

 @wpplayer18, that’s absolutely untrue. It doesn’t cost anything to have a bike reviewed on Pinkbike. As long as it’s interesting and relevant it’s fair game.

 @mikekazimer: Are't you both in Bellinghemp now?

 Here's an Evil bike review from someone that owned one:

They pedal well (thanks DW), they break, they don't fix them, they make you pay to fix them, they ignore warranty. I have completed my review of Evil bikes.

 considering wheel size choice at rampage, maybe we'll see a 26er review in the near future

 @mikekazimer: Glad to hear my friends are wrong. Do you guys typically reach out to manufacturers, do they reach out to you, or is it a combo of both?

 As Aggy would say, "whatever dude"