When it comes to modern mountain bike geometry, it seems like certain companies have entered into an informal race to see who can create the longest and slackest bike possible. Mondraker deserve credit for being at the forefront of this trend, as does Kona, but Nicolai have pushed the envelope even further over the last two years with their GeoMetron geometry.
Originally developed in conjunction with Chris Porter of Mojo Suspension, Nicolai have now applied those extra-long numbers to an entire line of bikes, one that includes everything from a World Cup proven downhill rig to a 27.5+ compatible hardtail. The radical geometry isn't going to be for everyone, but it is refreshing to see a company truly trying to find the limits of bike design rather than cautiously slackening the head angles of their bikes by a half-degree every season.
The Ion-G19 is quite possible the longest and slackest downhill bike in existence, with a reach of 495mm for the XL, and a head angle of 61.5-degrees in the low setting. Toss in 452mm of chainstays and you get a bike with a 1347mm wheelbase; in other words, it's slightly shorter than an eighteen-wheeler. The idea is that the extra length creates more stability, especially at the higher speeds that go hand in hand with downhill racing. The aluminum frame is handmade in Germany, and uses a Horst Link suspension layout for its 193mm of rear travel. If you're looking to have the longest bike on the block, the frame only (without a shock) goes for 2499 €.
On the opposite end of the spectrum from a cushy DH bike is Nicolai's new Argon-GLF hardtail. It too pushes the geometry boundaries, with a 63-degree head angle (when run with a 160mm fork), and a reach of 495mm for an XL. Adjustable dropouts allow the chainstay length to be set between 430 - 455mm, and for the use of up to a 27.5 x 2.8” tire. It's even possible to run the bike with a belt drive thanks to a split in the driveside seatstay. Although Nicolai does employ some extra machining underneath the seatstay yoke to trim off unnecessary material, with a claimed weight of 2650 grams (5.84 lb), the Argon clearly isn't aimed at the weight weenies out there. MSRP for the frame alone is 1449 €.
I love the Nicolai bikes but cant imagine shifting the big rig around at our local DH - A 'normal' DH bike is on the edge of being too much bike. Big gnarly stuff or 'real' DH tracks though I bet it could be amazing under the right rider.
Is Chris Porter getting royalties for these bikes ;-)
probably, as it is co design he must have a smal percentage by frame, i once spoke to a guy who had one enduro geomatron, and he said that you could only get a "normal" one true mojo, from nicolai only with gearbox
as for the nicolai frames, they are work's of art, very high quality frames, at least from the ones i saw, would love to have one , but i think that this geometry is to much, at least i would have to test one
A 6" bike is much better for daily riding. I wonder if these 6" Mojos would be the ticket to a lil bigger bike
@Mattin We are getting a lot of flak over our dislike of hydroforming as a method of construction. Hydroforming can look good but you don't have the same degree of control over the material thickness as you do with straight tubing. Give me straight thin Cro-mo tubes anyday.
The 6'7" me is saying WANT WANT WANT
Pinkbike doesn't often review "run of the mill Asian plastic", and when they do, it is often considerably cheaper and doesn't get heat anyway (see YT, Canyon, Rose...etc). The instances that I am referring to however are the daily ones where frames designed in America and built by the best carbon molders in the world (yes, in Asia) are reviewed and then completely panned in the comments because of their $3k pricetags.
Or how about a company like Intense, who hand crafts their alloy frames in California and sells them for around $2k? With Intense you know exactly who welded and straightened your frame.
So yeah, these frames aren't hand crafted, but just like the above is not an excuse for a carbon frame to cost $3k+, there is NO EXCUSE AT ALL for an alloy frame to cost that much.
Nicolai is like Leica, it's not for those who need to look at the price, it's for those who are willing to spend extra money to have something different.
By far the most precise and well finished frame. Not even close to mass brands.
It's funny how you use the 'number' of posts you see as some validation, when it's pointed out there just as many post to the contrary, it's not indicative of anything.
Nice spin.
Explain how it's not. Explain how, when you go to the Intense/Pivot/Santa Cruz...etc sections in here, you see 1 out of every 5 threads is about a broken frame and horrible warranty experience...then you head on over to the Specialized or Trek sections and can go pages without seeing a single one. I want to hear how you "spin" it.
Even better - go to Google, type in "Santa Cruz cracked frame"...note the number of hits. Now try "Specialized cracked frame". Note the number of hits and remember that specialized sells more than 10x the number of bikes that Santa Cruz does. That's not spin, that's just reality.
Enjoy your ignorance, it sure has been entertaining for me.
Oh and that was your mom you were calling btw.
Oh, really, their shit does not break? I laugh in your general direction. You highjacking unrelated thread with your fanboy bullshit, and now act like you above it? Smug idiot. Just go away.
But I am going to try to change that damn avatar again, so you haters and whiners can stop wasting my time.
It may work for you but it definitely didn't work for me.
For the record though the Longest DH bike is the Pole Evo Link 176 with a wheelbase of 1355mm, headangle of 62º, 455mm Chainstays and 510mm reach.
On a more serious note though, you are clueless about bikes if you do not like appearance of this hardtail. It is awesome.
Look it's a man! But it is dressed like a woman!
English humor at its finest.
An amBIvalent population.
That hardtail is now top of my list.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/13889954