If you purchased a new bike in the last year or two there's a good chance it has two little bolts threaded into the underside of the top tube. In theory, they're supposed to be for mounting a tube or tool holder, providing another way to take some weight off your back while riding. It's a simple feature to add onto a frame, so it's not surprising that it's showing up on more and more bikes, or at least on the ones that don't already offer in-frame storage.
There's only one problem – there aren't that many accessories out there that actually make use of those two bolts. After mentioning this frame feature in a bunch of articles and videos I sort of assumed that a relatively inexpensive option was already on the market. As it turns out, I was wrong. Yes,
Wolf Tooth makes a nice US-made metal bracket and strap for around $30, but all of my internet sleuthing couldn't uncover anything less expensive.
How about more expensive? You bet. Pivot offers their Ninja Tool Dock, which was created in conjunction with Topeak. It holds a 16 function multi-tool, and will leave your wallet $53 lighter. Not fancy enough for you? Well,
High Above just came out with their Gemini MK1 Payload Platform that goes for a whopping $69 USD. Part of the reason for that high price is that it's made in the US out of very high quality materials, including a Kevlar-reinforced hypalon strap to hold everything in place.
The Payload Platform has magnets integrated into it to hold a CO2 and a master link, and it comes in anodized purple as one of the color options, but that's still a lot of money for such a simple item, even if lasers are used to produce it. There's also the fact that the strap isn't all that stretchy, which makes it more difficult to cinch everything down. I ended up doing some modifications, and after some digging around paired a velcro strap with a multi-tool pouch that was just big enough to hold a Schwalbe Aerothan tube. Yes, I know that's an expensive tube, and here I am writing about the lack of affordable tube holders, but I also don't flat very often, and it's crazy light.
High Above's Payload Platform has magnets in the base plate to hold a master link and a CO2. The strap isn't stretchy, though, which makes it hard to cinch items down. A little pouch and a velco strap created something closer to what I wanted.
Here's what I'm picturing: a plastic bracket with slots in it that'll accommodate a rubber ski strap or a velcro strap, one that weighs next to nothing and costs under $20, ideally closer to $10. The edges should be nice and rounded so they don't jab my thighs, and I'd love it if it was made from recycled plastic. Basically, something like a Pedro's tire lever with modifications that make it better suited for holding a tube.
Zine, a small company in Germany is making something pretty damn close to what I envision, but at 29.95 € it's still not exactly cheap.
I even got Brian Park, Pinkbike's head of editorial, in on the project. He's been messing around with a 3D printer this winter, and printed off a couple brackets that weighed in at a Dangerholm-approved 5 grams. The first ones are a little narrow, and probably need a groove added to keep a strap from slipping, but they're better than nothing, and I'm way more likely to put them to use than the
pedals that he printed.
It's a work in progress (version 2.0 will be wider to keep the tube and strap from shifting), but I feel like something like this that was reasonably priced is the ticket.
The end result of all my hunting is that I'm convinced a window of opportunity has been opened by the addition of these two unassuming top tube bolts. I'm all for supporting the smaller companies, it's just that I don't think this should be an expensive accessory. There is a place for the fancy anodized options, just like how there are titanium and carbon fiber water bottle cages, but there's also plenty of room for someone to step in with even more options. Who knows, if a clever plastics engineer can make something that's function and affordable I might even buy one or two.
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Everyone is in such a rush on here to give intellectual property away. Don't make this stuff up for free and give it over to someone else who will finalize your thought and profit it on it.
Got a contribution? Write it down. Document it. Produce it.
Most every good invention in mountain biking was stolen from a stoked rider with a creative thought they mistakenly typed out in a forum. (purely guessing...but mostly trooffff)
Granted, punching two more holes into the underside of the top tube and using another two bolts from the bolt tray is a cheap option but, protecting your tools, tubes and all other ancillaries from the elements inside the frame is far better?!
Discuss....
It’s for enduro baguettes
www.instagram.com/p/CJ6Wb0Hhg0F/?igshid=qc3r132gon63
ridegg.com/collections/accessories/products/fsk-bracket-strap
I use a Mutherload Strap from Backcountry Research, which works pretty well but it shifts around if I put it on a narrow part of the frame. Screw bosses would prevent this. So would electrical tape, I suppose.
Exactly the bike I thought of when I saw the article headline, though I went for the picture showing the spare tube mount. Wtf is with this craze of strapping or bolting crap to your bike where it will get covered in mud and grit every time you ride? On the plus side it seems to be getting lots common to find nice tools that people have lost off their bike ????
Check that one out! Can you get those in the states? The magnetic locking mechanism is great and proper secure! It's the same socket for their bottles as well.
Edit: In the prodict picture on that Santa Chameleon it look quite bulky and it is in fact 20cm long. They also have other things to snap to that socet and hopefully come up with something smaller for toptube storage.
Sorry for that double action...
www.76projects.com/on-bike-storage
there are options for sides for other applications too...thanks for looking!
wildcat.cc/search?q=drj0n
When I go racing and/or go for a longer ride or one that's further afield I bring a hip pack with a tube, extra bottle of water, extra jacket or shirt and some snacks. Running inserts isn't 100% flat foolproof so if I'm racing or far away I want the option to put a tube in if it's necessary.
www.nashbar.com/topeak-mount-kit-for-mountain-morph-pump-tmp-2c-1/p456922
www.nashbar.com/topeak-mount-kit-for-mountain-morph-pump-tmp-2c-1/p456922
Here's a ratchet set in a pod... count be used with a mini-pump bracket at the same time.There's extra room in the revolver kit cylinder for more bits, tire levers, patches, chain links, etc.
www.ebay.com/itm/JCOOL-Bike-Bicycle-Revolver-Mini-Tool-Kit-Ratchet-combine-W-water-bottle-cage/233512109754?hash=item365e6806ba:g:7egAAOSwYUBa2F18
Here are Stainless steel M5 Wing Bolts in different lengths...
www.amazon.ca/Stainless-Butterfly-Wingbolt-Machine-Fastener/dp/B07PHK6NLZ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=wing%2Bbolts&qid=1613686001&sr=8-3-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyVzhHVktOVjZSWE1VJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDgzNDUwM0lQTFUzUjJDOFVFWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkwNDY4MjhXTEc5RUhaUjdXWiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1
Does anybody here know what that might be?
It did not seem to be big enough for a tube. Looked like about the same as the TT in width and height.
problemsolversbike.com/products/accessory-mounts/bow-tie-strap-anchors
www.on-lynecomponents.com/collections/the-holy-rail/products/folding-bag-base-strap
Can‘t remember how we solved that problem between yesterday and 1985 when I started biking...
Or at least to check whether my frames have any surplus mounting points, and then to think about doing it if they have.
www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/syncros-is-accessory-mount-p347296/s657105?cid=GBP&gclid=CjwKCAiAg8OBBhA8EiwAlKw3khCclfCbQ66QUuBZRt0SM_dzhsIU2Px1xprPT2fDComOObB6Z-5aOxoCg9wQAvD_BwE
www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Assorted/dp/B00SHBNE8E/ref=asc_df_B00SHBNE8E/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198066667628&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13589324404782572408&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033108&hvtargid=pla-318105899700&psc=1
Wow, I must be totally messed up because my bike is mostly scratches, it gets that way from riding
@nurseben I already explained that I'm fine with scratches and wear that comes from riding.
Go ahead and mock the guy who is OCD about his bike, but I bet you don't mind my kind when it's time to buy used!
I got a hip bag, a shoulder bag, two water bottle cages, and a tube strapped to my frame.
It’s s bike, it ain’t art ... some people are do friggin wierd.
Do people even ride their bikes?
I’m on my bike three to four times a week, it’s a year old, there’s scratches aplenty, rock chips, I fix stuff as it breaks, but I don’t replace it till it’s not fixable.
Ride your damn bikes!
This video does a good job explaining it and demonstrating it with 3D printed bolts.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQek0wei1g&ab_channel=MyTechFun
I will say that this NylonX material is wild. I've smashed the shit out of these pedals and have sent a few loading to flat on the commuter bike and they've shrugged it off. I'm cautiously optimistic.
@subwaypanda I'm sure there are laws against this put probably yeah.
@jasonlucas I've got one of these for you. But Kaz had a good point about making the strap slot a lot smaller so it doesn't slide around, so I'm taking a stab at another version.
If you drilled a hole in the top tube and added attachment points to most carbon fiber frames that weren't designed for it, they would probably tear out eventually. So it's gotta be reinforced compared to a bike without it.
I figured these were designed for carrying a tube and a tool, but given the response to what I said, seems like the companies probably have to assume that someone will put a water bottle on it, so presumably it's fine.
salsacycles.com/components/category/bags_frame_packs/exp_series_direct_mount_top_tube_bag
www.on-lynecomponents.com/collections/the-holy-rail?page=2
www.on-lynecomponents.com/products/triangle-storage-box-1
Saying this, what really question me is:
Why not placing this weight (beteween what...200grm and 400grm - depending on what you carry) lower on the bike.
Yes it catchs mud, but a simple silicon cover, can keep muck of those parts
Just my $0.02, don't care if you don't like it.
I mean bikes ARE designed to look good, that's why nobody rides linkage forks despite them technically being superior. If specialized and Trek can figure out how to cut a hole in the down tube why can't anyone else? #1 reason to buy a specialized IMO.
I buy a bike based at least partly on looks and you're lying if you tell me you don't too.
Actually you ride a GG with a trust fork. Maybe you're the exception haha
Made On Vancouver Island, and only $20.00 cad
www.aliexpress.com/item/32931462575.html
My setup (pivot switchblade) is topeak bottle cage that has tire levers integrated, wolf tooth strap for extra tube, oneup EDC tool in steerer + C02, and a tire inflator stored in the little DI2 compartment near the BB.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:4597153
www.zine-sports.com/shop/tube-cage
shop.windwave.co.uk/accessories/bottles-cages/bbb-strapplate-mounting-bracket-bbc-112-black__10834
www.instagram.com/p/CJ6Wb0Hhg0F/?igshid=pv55ndnzv4ey
Pinkbike does: Posts article pontificating on the future of bolt-on frame fannies
It's DH week!!!! Where the flipping DH content!? A couple measly throwbacks to races of yesteryear? Heaven forbid a riding story, trip report, local scene check-in, etc... I understand that your sea2sky endorko tendencies must be super conflicting right now, but you'd think that during DH week some cool content other than bike reviews would be generated?
2x Race Results
2x Unique DH bike profiles
2x Race throwbacks
2x Team news (UR)
3x Bike reviews
1x DH video content
The only articles generated by Pinkbike are the unique bike profiles and new bike reviews.. 7 in total. That's great and all, but I feel like PB is doing a poor job stepping up to the moniker of "DH Week"
It just seems like a somewhat flaccid attempt... Usually a themed "take-over" in other media outlets would generate diverse content on all level's (eg: history, personal profiles, current events, scene/"tribe", tech, etc). PB's take has been predominantly tech-based, which is of course appreciated, but if you want to really do justice to the cause, a more immersive pool of content would lend to PB's street cred (a questionable street cred at that given the day-to-day shade thrown at DH bikes 'round these parts)
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