RC's op-ed last week about the split between enduro and trail bikes got me thinking about the future, specifically the bikes that we're likely to see announced over the course of 2016. Mountain bikers can be a contentious bunch, especially when it comes to wheel size, as silly as that seems, but the optimistic side of me likes to think that we're starting to get past that. We might not quite be at the gathering 'round the campfire and singing 'Kumbaya' stage, but I like to think that as a whole, we are starting to realize that having more than one wheel size option isn't necessarily a bad thing, although 26” wheels (R.I.P.) may have served as the sacrificial lamb for us to arrive at this point.
In any event, 2016 is shaping up to be another year full of new bikes and components, and with the season beginning to gather steam it seemed like an appropriate time to take a take a look at the past and the future of the much-loved and much-hated 29er.
I was working at a small bike shop in Colorado when the first wave of 29ers began to emerge in the early 2000s. Customers would roll their big-wheeled bikes in for a tune-up, an air of superiority wafting in the door behind them, convinced they were in possession of the one bike to trump all others. Those early 29ers were certainly different, and many of them were expensive, custom rigs created in garage workshops by small builders, but I wasn't convinced. Part of my skepticism was due to the fact that I'd just discovered how much fun it was to huck off cliffs and blast downhill as fast as possible on a full-suspension bike, feats that those new-fangled 29ers simply weren't equipped to handle. They were cross-country machines with geometry closer to what you'd find on a road bike, and the handling to match. I was perfectly content with my 26” wheels, thank-you-very-much.
Fast forward to the present day and there's a much different landscape, one where 26” wheels and tires have been relegated to the discount bins, 27.5” enduro bikes are all the rage, and now there's this new 27.5+ size trend creeping in. It's enough to make your head spin, especially if all you want to do is ride without needing to get into mind-numbing conversations about rim and tire profiles. Hell, it's my job to geek out over this stuff, and even I get sick of it sometimes. But bear with me here, because I'm pretty excited about the future. My crystal ball isn't always correct, but I have a strong suspicion that we're about to see a resurgence of 29ers hit the market, and these new rides are going to be more capable than ever, and even further removed from your dad's sketchy road bike on steroids.
The groundwork was set for this next generation of 29ers a few years ago by bikes like Kona's Process 111 and Specialized's Enduro 29, two very different machines, but both aimed at riders whose preferred trails tended to be rough and technical rather than smooth and sanitized. Kona's entry prioritized geometry over rear wheel travel, while Specialized went big, equipping the Enduro 29 with over six inches of travel.
Those two bikes were mainstream examples that proved 29ers could be much more than machines for cross-country bandits, but there was one factor that prevented every bike company from rushing to roll out their own boundary-pushing 29er: the growth (perceived or real) of enduro racing. All of a sudden the market was flooded with slack-angled 160mm bikes, and it seemed like there must have been some sort of massive tectonic uplift that created mountains from molehills around the world, since previously there hadn't been that many places with terrain to warrant riding such burly bikes.
That enduro-fueled wave has receded slightly, leaving a bumper crop of incredibly capable 160mm mini-downhill bikes in its wake, and room for slightly more well-rounded rides to get their time in the limelight. There's a reason Trek's Remedy 29 earned Pinkbike's 2015 Bike of the Year award – it's a shining example of a bike that absolutely rips up- and downhill, a bike that makes unleashing your inner speed demon incredibly easy. It was also the first bike to usher in the much-derided Boost standard, but for as much hate as the wider rear wheel spacing generated, 2016 looks like it's going to be the year where it starts to become the norm, as designers take advantage of the new standard to roll out bikes that have room for wide tires, appropriately sized chainstays, and enough stiffness to hold up to aggressive riding.
Santa Cruz's new Hightower is a prime example of the possibilities, a bike with 135mm of travel, a relatively slack head angle, and the ability to accept 29” or 27.5+ wheels. It's that versatility that makes it appealing, giving riders a choice between wheel sizes, something that was lacking when 27.5” wheels arrived to push 26” wheels to the wayside. There are other new-school 29ers in the works as well, and the details should start showing up over the course of the next few months. The Taipei Cycle Show kicks off next week, and Sea Otter will be here all too soon, events that will provide the first glimpses of what 2016 and 2017 hold in store.
What about 27.5+?
Plus-sized bikes, which use extra-wide 27.5” rims mounted up with tires measuring 2.8” or greater to create a wheel that measures almost (but not quite) 29” in diameter emerged last year, and continue to gain traction (no pun intended). At the moment, the main limiting factor is the lack of tire options - many of the tread patterns currently on the market are best suited for cruising on hardpacked or sandy trails rather than taking on steep, technical terrain, the type of trails I'd imagine a large percentage of Pinkbike readers enjoy.
Better tires are on the way, but at the moment the lack of suitable rubber is the biggest drawback when it comes to plus bikes. That's one of the reasons I see 29ers poised to step up to the plate in the near future – there are already plenty of excellent tire options, and in many cases it's not abnormally difficult for a company to make a bike that can be adapted to work with both 29” and 27.5+ wheels.
Now, this isn't a ploy to get you to buy a new bike, or to sow the seeds of uncertainty that your current ride is somehow sub-par. As long as you're getting out and riding, it doesn't matter in the slightest what wheel size you're on. But if you do decide to get a new steed this year, by the looks of things there will be more choices than ever, and many of them will be rolling on 29" wheels. Having more options isn't always better, but I'm eager to see what this new generations of 29ers looks like - I have a feeling that they'll be well suited for going fast and getting sideways, two of the reasons many of us started mountain biking in the first place.
"You know, our comment sections have been way too friendly lately. How could we rile things up? Should we write about how great boost is? Maybe review a fat bike? How about a feature on XC racing?"
"No, we have to go bigger."
"But what could piss off our commenters more than those articles?"
"I'm going I declare 2016 the year of the..."
"..."
"29er!!!!"
"GASP!"
Evil cackles all around.
Bricks will be shat!
It's like I'm a cutter. Please help me protect myself from myself.
BUT in the real world, if your comparing a 29er that costs what some wheel sets cost against a similar priced 27.5 or even against spending that money upgrading the 26er you already own. Other than mowing over stuff at speed, affordable 29ers just don't "feel" as good or ride as "fun" for most of us. Even if they truly are faster?
And then on 29ers being faster. For instance, as great as the Enduro 29er apparently is, it sure wasn't' any kind of a "Game Changer" for Enduro racing like I kept reading it would be. Horses for courses, and for sure there are a few riders who obviously excel on the wheel size for Enduro. And you do see riders switch back and forth.
But big team riders mostly have their pick of bike and wheel size. Again, a few are very successful on them. But if you got beat by someone on a 29er, had access to a team supported 29er you know DANG well you'd be out there testing it. And "if" it was truly faster then as a racer you'd switch... and "overall" there is not a "trend" of Enduro riders switching to 29ers?
If you are TALL get a LARGE wheeled bike. If you are SHORT get a SMALL wheeled bike. And if you don't want or can't afford to, stick with what you got. Simple.
My wife is 5ft 4 and rips on her small rocky mountain 29er. Also keep an eye out for Katey Winton this year in the EWS on her small trek remedy.
27.5 was already a bit far fetched...I miss my 26" !
The wheels aren't the soft part - I can attest to this. You'll run out of suspension travel WAY before you can experience "soft" wheels.
The Mavic Crossmax wheels with their big thick aluminum straight pull spokes are easily the stiffest wheels I've ridden...Regardless of size.
I've ski hilled my 29er MANY times already dusting 160mm 27.5 guys, and the #1 downfall is suspension travel.. Not wheel strength.
I love the shit out of my 29er and coming from a strong DH back ground it has not been a issue with the right equipment.
An here's the UK 4X season set to kick off this weekend
Basically
f*ck you
Right after your b*tch ass.
Second, there were weak 26" wheels too. Remember Rhyno Lites with old 135 hubs? One rim shot with a semi-soft tire and you were replacing that POS rim. I was snapping J-bend spokes every month. Do you really think 26" were 'bomb proof'? Are you kidding me? Oh and now where are axle standards for DH bikes? 153? And why? Stronger wheels. And where did Mike say you have to ride 29" wheels on your DH bike?
Third, stop whinging about how '26" was the best wheel ever' because if it truly was the 29" or 27.5" wheel wouldn't be around today. Even DH is 27.5 now because most companies can't afford to support THREE wheels sizes and 27.5 cover them all to a larger extent. So you think 29ers have been pushed on us without us wanting them? Please. That's insinuating there is no 29er market and since they've been around for 16 years there obviously is.
Do I find all this technology change frustrating? Hell yes. Do I think my 2001 26er HT or my 2008 26er dually is a better bike than my 2012 dually? Hell no. It's more than wheel size that has advanced.
The only thing stopping 27.5+ from killing off 29ers completely is that bike shops are extremely hesitant to carry them yet.
When I'm shopping for a new trail bike, comfort is just as high on my list as any other factor. If I was still 27 years old, I wouldn't want 27+, but I'm not. I'm older, slower, more risk averse, and increasingly interested in just being outside to enjoy the day, and not so concerned with shredding. 27+ or 29 makes sense to me, because my priorities have changed. when I was young, fast and broke, companies didn't make much money off of me. Now that I'm old, slow and financially secure, I'm a much better customer of the bike industry.
The only real collection of scientific data that I have seen to be able to review found 27.5 to be the slowest as someone referenced above. If you want to think race results count for naught on the subject, and results of tests you're not privy to trump all that, it's your prerogative. Doesn't change the fact that I prefer the handling of a 26er despite owning three 27.5s. Like I said, if 26 shows that it has a future again at some point I will be back in 100%, but at this point it looks to me like tires, forks, frames and rims have given up on them so I have too.
The glaringly obvious point the Op missed is that plus size bikes come put with hard compound and fast rolling (low grip) tyres as if they had softer compounds and good tread patterns with decent sidewalls they would be heavier and roll slower than dh tyres, you cant have both, you can compensate for durometer and appropriate tread pattern by increasing contact area, but you cant change that dynamic or you will have a slug to ride... This point was obvious to me from the outset and why 3" tyres never kicked off 10 years ago...
m.youtube.com/watch?v=_tkLbzdkWMk
m.youtube.com/watch?v=izbzB1R2Q1A
Regarding the wheel build "The hybrid wheels feature the less expensive aluminum Roval Traverse Fattie rims but high-end hubs, and they're laced up with thicker gauge spokes than standard." I guess the road bike spokes weren't cutting it.
If you have a pro mechanic on hand to mend your wheels, then good on you. Most people don't.
The bummer is most people find out the hard way their wheels are underbuilt.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/13204396
Snappier handling has less to do with the wheel size and more to do with bike geo. Bring a 20 yr old 26er against a new Evil Following and my money's on the Following. Read the reviews
www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/bikes/mountain-bikes/full-suspension/product/review-evil-bikes-the-following-16-49922
If you compare a 20" BMX wheels to 26", it accelerates even faster. So why bring back 26" then? 24" was a thing in the late 90's (Arrow Racing) all based the very same logic. The thing was the market was too small... much like where most of the wider 26" market is going because 27.5" is seen as having more advantages for the wider market. Was it needed? That's another discussion...
26" making a comeback? Hey, you never know, but guess who's going to cover that cost of producing three tire, wheel, fork sizes? You and I. Careful what you wish for.
Is the Bishop custom? Resembles an older Marin...
The Bishop is, alas, dead now. Swing arm snapped the other week :'( But was an 18 year old Marin. And prone to wandering (and being a hinge pig) on the flats and ups and understeer on the downs. Still worked pretty well considered tho. Has been replaced with a 2010s Titus El Guapo. Which, it has to be said, is better in every respect.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6yk67LgiTE
Count the number of 26ers for me.
The thing that gets me here is that the rider size/strength issue is totally ignored. It's a similar thing with bike weight and such. People are paying huge premiums for lightness. So the base builds then skimp on strength, because they don't want to be too heavy. People are ragging on the Process 111 for being heavy, for example. But that is a stout build. And at my size/weight, a small difference in bike weight (especially on a bike like that, where so much of the mass is down low with that really low toptube) is not that noticeable. A slight decrease in strength/stiffness of wheels, stiffness of forks or rear triangles, or beefiness of brakes (small rotors) has a huge impact on my enjoyment. For a lighter rider, that all looks very different.
--Eleanor Roosevelt
-1936
If you want to have fun get suspension and smaller wheels, plus size tyres just don't have a place either way
Up to 150mm travel 29" destroy other wheel sizes. Beyond that the suspension begins to negate the advantages. Note I said begins. There are trails were an E29 will eat any 160mm 650b.
Yes, at around 130mm travel, 29er do have a lot of good things going for them, but so do 26ers - just OTHER things (like playfulness). This is not my saying 29ers can't be playful or anything, just that 29er are NOT AS playful as 26ers, and 26ers are NOT AS well-rolling over obstacles as 29ers. It would be stupid to say 26er CAN'T roll over stuff - just as stupid as it would be to say 29er can't be playful. All a matter of perspective and ultimately preference.
Big bonus is how much smoother rough stuff feels when you plough right through.
Surprised my wheels are still straight.
Do have to re tension the spokes pretty regular though
Leov would've walked the EWS last year if he didn't get injuried.
On a 140mm 29"....
Welcome to the Pinkbike comments.
The fact is 29" has more grip. 650b+ has even more grip. The average guy will benefit from either.
I don't know what you mean by "tuck under"? You mean you tuck it under you when you go over the bars?
I guess 26" is more fun in the same way going on an amusement ride and removing a few bolts on the ride is.
Did you guys see that vid of Brosnan in Tasmania? Looks like he's having a really shit time on that 29" Stumpjumper eh?
The centrifugal forces are relatively minuscule and arguable inconsequential to bicycles stability.- www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~hemh/gyrobike.htm
Nino is an anomaly. Remove him from the equasion and 29" dominates. Would he still win on a good 29"? Obviously. By even more? Maybe. I stand by my statement that upto 150mm 29" is superior to 650b on real trails. I guess that's backed up by the Trek guys beating 650b riders with 30mm less travel.
If you look at the wins 29" has had in Enduro relative to the amount 29" bikes in the field I'm sure they would stack up very well ratio wise. I would 100% agree with your last sentence if we're talking 160mm.
I think most guys would do fine on a 27.5 imo. But yea, horses for courses and we all prefer different things. I've tried 29". didn't appreciate what it offered me as my style of riding tends to be more playful and picking it up for hoping over sections, etc, but for some guys it's all they want. Then there's guys out on 26" bikes keeping up no problem. At the end of the day it's like we're debating what wheels to run on the car whist ignoring the powerplants. Along comes some club car running 14" wheels with an LS1 and smokes everyone.
The stated STA numbers for the Wreckoning have steepened a bit. Not sure if that's just a change in how they got the measurement or what. The Wreckoning is worth considering if only for the stack/reach/ETT numbers. It's a huge bike and they seem to have realized that XL people relate to stack differently than small people. If the STA is actually problematic then I might drop 10mm of fork travel, or maybe even go to a TALAS cartridge since there's no shortage of extended climbs around here.
I absolutely love my Banshee Prime and have been looking at replacing it (no real reason...just because I am a whore) but I just can't find any bike that looks better...maybe a Lenz or a Canfield Riot, I hope some of the new 29ers have a little more travel, slack HA and steep SA that come out in at least a 21" size.
@mayha49
Tall guys with long legs end up with there ass over the rear axle at low climb angles if the CS is short .
This basically mean if your all or have long legs you end up wheeling up hill if you have short chain stays...
I have 37" legs and I just got a 29er bike with 450mm CS and 75.5 STa and I can now climb without wheeling!! That means once I get to the top I'm not cream crackered and can hit the fun stuff with plenty of go!
I think it would be great if manufacturers either had frame size dependent CS lengths or adjustable length CS (like on my Kona Honzo). But maybe that hoping too much!
@pedalhound - I thought the prime I trued was awesome - shame I couldn't get an XL....
@alexsin
@mayha49
I'm happy digging in the "discount bin" thank you please!
In the meantime I'm enjoying a wide range of tire-choices for 26in bikes, cheap 10-speed replacement parts for my drive-train and of course that bit more peace of mind of not having to worry about "wants" and "could haves"
Tire options for 26 are still light years ahead of 650b or 29er... Currently on CRC- 26" = 286 in stock options, 650b = 119 in stock options, 29" 114 options.
Same for rims- 80, 55 and 51 respectively.
I'm happy riding 26 and if someone else is happy riding another size than power to them! At least they are riding...
While smaller wheels make individual moves easier balanced over a 2-3 hour ride I have more fun totally on the bigger wheels with a more flowy ride.
For real tech I have a bmx.
@diego-b Sometimes you need to have something to stuck on a.k.a ideology.
motocrossactionmag.com/news/the-20-inch-tire-revolution
The bike inspires confidence, allowing me to ride faster and harder with less effort.
All i'd ask for is 10-20mm more travel, and a hair more relaxed geometry.
29" wheels and sticky 2.5" Minions is an excellent ride.
It isn't for everyone, and I don't think Pinkbike is shoving it down our throats.... Rather opening the eyes of perspective buyers.
Choice is a good thing, as long as the LBS can properly match the rider to the bike.
* I've noticed a trend towards less travel these days. At one point, it seemed like everything was going 160mm. Now 140-150 seems the norm.
* Why does no one ever mention the Intense Tracer 29er as one of the first long(er) travel 29ers.
* My bike is a rolling dinosaur -- 2010 Specialized Enduro, 26-inch wheels, 2x9 gearing (with a bash guard!). This bike took me from clean groomed trails to handling all the gnar that could be thrown at it. It's old an outdated, but I love this bike.
ex: Kona, Trek, Chromag, Scott , Rocky the big S .....
I've only heard positive things about both. Surely they're somewhat responsible for 29ers becoming "cool" trail bikes as of late...
I think wheel size is a factor for different size riders. PB and other review articles comments about handling should be in the context of rider size...end of story
I think frame geo is still mega important.....end of story
I think so long as it works for you it doesn't matter what you ride.....
My prediction for 2016 is 29ers will see a big pickup as loads of trail travel (less than enduro) 29ers get bought by tall dudes and loads of 27+ riders give up and convert to 29 wheels...and YT make them cool
My prediction for 2017....chain stays will get longer as enduro riders will realise a 400mm chain stay with bugger all tyre clearance results in them falling backwards when riding uphill... (this is why enduro helmets cover more of the back of the skull)
My precaution for 2018....more than 3 bike co's will realise that designing stack heights is not about "how small can you make the headtube without it snapping so the bike looks good in marketing pics?"
History is repeating itself and cassettes are constantly getting bigger 6-7-8-9-10-11......
All it's going to take is some well known pro featured in a gnarly video killin it on a 29er before some of you realize that wheelsize isn't as big of a deal and you make it seem.
Just shred the wheelsize you like!
#endofstory
the 29er is stupid light and really fast in a straight line but super not fun when it gets twisty or ultra techy. great for the rolling tame trails around my house. kinda sucks when i get out in the big mountain east coast rocks.
its super cool you believe the 29er will make its "second coming" this year but 29ers arent for everyone. i'll keep my 26" and its inefficiency at rolling over stuff just to have more fun in the turns or air.
27.5 X 2.5 to 2.75 tire size to add more selection?
Wait. More selection! Noooo. Don't you hate capitalism for all the choices we get. We complain so much having so much to choose from. It really sucks. Back to single speed stamped steel 60lb bikes on steel 28" skinny tires made in East Germany gor all of you!
My only problem is that I'm short and 29" wheels with a 120mm+ fork can result in tall stack heights. Then it feels like I'm riding a city bike.
The other thing is that with 29ers, light, stiff wheels are super important, and such wheels are pricy. 26 and 650b can get away with heavier hoops without feeling dead.
It's a toolbox not a fashion parade, my three year old short travel 29er all mountain is still going strong, as is my 26" DH rig. When I need a new bike, I'll look at what I need - I just hope someone somewhere is still making what I want, that they sell enough of them to keep the price sensible, and that enough 'standards' remain that I can swap a few parts over.
I'm going riding, by time I get back manufacturers will be telling me a 700C unicycle is 0.00000000000001% faster on certain trails, and I won't give a damn, 'cos I suck on any trail/bike combo but still have a blast.
go for it @jmhills
BUT - if you are like me and ride flowy trails where you actually have to pedal once and awhile to enjoy the stuff then a 29 is just a faster bike.
If you like to ride fast then you choose the fastest bike.
It's not about what's better and anyone that actually knows bikes knows this already and doesn't need a PB article to tell you.
26+ (wheel and tire) is a final diameter around 27.5".
A 26+ which now has the operational diameter of a 27.5 is an awesome prospect! Lots of extra grip from a wider contact patch and FAR MORE compliance which means even more grip.
But until my 26" trail bike doesn't get completely ruined I won't be making the switch.
My long answer: Don't really need one.
Meanwhile Giant, YT and Canyon will continue to take over with the best bikes on the market...
Why? Because they don`t care about wheels, they care about building nice bikes at reasonable prices.
Also, how comes these "opinion" posts always have a cuestión as their title and those lousy "poll" ones don't?
This year i'll get a serious 26" wheelset at best price thanx to that 27.5"/29" madness.
Just gonna posthole in the mud.
And you dont get that "tired" feeling after a ride.
www.mbr.co.uk/news/is-the-39-inch-wheel-the-future-of-cross-country-mountain-bikes-338429
Yeah, 29ers just suck.
Who else gave up riding because of all the consumer madness ?
Can I have some popcorn ??
Pretty much, if you ride 275+ or 29+, likely you are 40 ~ 50 years old. There is a reason racers run narrow tires, its called going fast as f*ck!
The trend around here has been old man bike = + sized.
Dear younger crowd, don't give in, you are far from your years of arthretist and you still have a chance at killing the race circuit, Run skinny tires and rely on skill, moment and speed, vs. a huge slow fat tire for traction.
There is a significant difference between mid fat, fat and normal people.
Let's be honest here, logically you have frame geometry suited to the riders size, why wouldn't you adapt wheel size and even travel into the equation.
End of the day though, Marketing pushes big wheels on everyone which makes non sense? big wheels for big people and small wheels for small people is completely logical. My version of a 29 is more like me riding a 275..
i'm a little offended with your old guy references up there ^^^
some of us old farts still go pretty big \m/
Heh. @BoneDog just hasn't reached the age of reason yet. Or thoughtfulness.
in a nice way ..lol
I don't ride to get respect, I ride for fun and to get some exercise..
My crew is 90% over 40 and we are all still pretty hardcore IMO, and ripping stuff that's pretty cool for any age....
Getting old sucks but its inevitable...I was your age like yesterday(well that's what it feels like) you'll be here faster than you think
IMO if people 40-50+ years old are still riding? that's freaking awesome, and you really shouldn't criticize people for thier wheel size choice...Believe me it gets harder as you get old(riding does anyways )
so if 29er's or whatever makes them happy and still go out and ride?? more power to them
First, I expect that the statistical significance of your sample set that you based your stereotype on is undoubtedly laughably small.
Second, Adults in their prime income earning years making good money and having disposable income for multiple bikes? Maybe they just want to try a fat bike out in the snow because it might be fun? Did you factor that in? Wait, let me guess: no.
Third, have you ever tried to take care of a 2 yo with a leg in a cast? Or pay a mortgage, when you can't earn a paycheque because of an injury? Do you know what a bank foreclosure is? Wait, let me guess: no, no and no.
Fourth, how do you know they are slow as f*ck? Have you ridden with them? Have you ridden with a provincial Masters Champ? Wait, let me guess: no, no and no.
Fifth, what does "arthretist " mean? Artist? Atheist? Arthritis?
Sixth, you are closer to 30 than 20. Barring a hereditary disease or otherwise, you will feel the unstoppable effects age faster than you can possibly imagine and there's not a single thing you can do to avoid it, and still be alive. You will spend the majority of your life being one of the old, slow, fat, people you despise. Go ahead, do the math.
Seventh, if you feel the need to tell other people they suck to feel better, that's really sad, and in so, so many ways.