Pinkbike Poll: How Often Do You Ride Instead of Drive?

Mar 29, 2023 at 6:57
by Mike Kazimer  
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This person gets a free pass for driving to the trailhead.

Spring is in the air in the Northern Hemisphere, or at least in the parts where it's not currently snowing, raining, or tornadoing, which means more and more riders are heading to the trails. And by heading I mean driving, at least based on how busy the parking lots around me have been lately. I'm always surprised by how reluctant mountain bikers are to ride to the trails, even if they only live a few miles away. Granted, if you don't drive you won't be able to show off that snazzy lifted Sprinter van, or the rooftop tent on your Tacoma, so I guess there's that.

It's almost as if there's a collective amnesia that causes mountain bikers to forget that their bikes are also a means of transportation, rather than solely being expensive toys to ride around in the woods. In many cases riding doesn't take that much longer than driving, but it does require committing to not immediately reaching for the car keys when it's time to ride.

I'm not oblivious to the fact that in some areas trying to ride to the trails simply isn't worth it due to the amount of traffic and a lack of bike-friendly infrastructure – playing in traffic is often more dangerous than mountain biking, especially considering the inordinate number of distracted drivers out there.

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I wish more parking lots looked like this.


What about other tasks, though? Do you commute to work? Ride a bike to the grocery store? A cheap commuter bike is a great complement to that fancy (or not-so-fancy) mountain bike. It can take a conscious effort to commit to running more errands by bicycle, but trust me, it's worth it. Putting the obvious environmental benefits aside, getting out of those metal and glass boxes is good for the brain – my thoughts are always much less scattered, my frustration levels much lower after a little spin around town.

We've done variations of this week's poll question, but I'm always curious to see where the general sentiment of Pinkbike's readers lies. At the end of the day, if I'm able to convince even a few people to ride their bikes more often and drive their cars less I'll consider this small soapbox rant successful. For the record, I do occasionally drive my car to go riding, but try my best to ride whenever possible, especially if the trailhead is less than 5 miles away.

How often do you ride a bike for tranportation / utility purposes?

Select all that apply.



What types of bikes do you regularly ride (other than a dedicated mountain bike)?



What prevents you from riding instead of driving to the trailhead closest to you?



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303 Comments
  • 108 7
 Come on, every time you do a poll the poll is not done right.
Why can we only choose one other type of bike we use?
Why is there no option to see the results to the last question if you use the bike to get to the trails if you don't want to click a wrong answer?
  • 97 1
 And the last question… what if you DO ride to the nearest trailhead? Or isn’t that useful data? It’s literally the title of the article and then the question is missing altogether.
  • 26 0
 Just answer "unicycle" every time because that's the best answer anyway.
  • 21 1
 Also no option for "commuter bike" for other bikes we ride.
  • 14 0
 @dominic54: Yeah, I don't own a car any more. I have no choice but to ride Smile
  • 7 0
 Yea, exactly, I do ride to the trail head! The last poll is only for people who don’t ride?!?
  • 25 0
 At least this poll is so scattershot I'm now convinced that Pinkbike polls are not secretly being used for market research.
  • 4 0
 @SlamHam: This! There is little valuable data here given the gaping holes in each question.
  • 6 0
 @WhoTookIt: I'd like a clunker option.
  • 15 0
 bro this is broscience not real scinece bro
  • 7 0
 Right. I ride a BMX, gravel bike and old mtb converted to commuter/pub bike as well as my mtb. Also why choice on the last question of I do ride to the trailhead at least sometimes.
  • 27 2
 How is riding to work once a week "often"? That's not often that's f*cking slack!

You can hardly say you do something if 80% of the opportunities you just don't.
  • 1 2
 Exactly! It says bikes but you can only choose one. So I guess it should say bike.
  • 3 0
 @dominic54: agreed. I was unable to answer the last two questions because they didn't apply...
  • 6 0
 Worst. Poll. Ever.
  • 5 0
 @korev: agreed, I commute every day, don't care whether it's raining or not. I'm 60 odd % water anyway so what'll a little more do? No option there though.
I also ride to the trailhead as the extra exercise is good for an old fart like me so no option there also.
Pretty poorly thought out poll
  • 58 7
 Should be fixed now. I'll let my jet lag take the blame for this one. Thanks for all the whining.
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: Comments section, what can you do? Thanks for updating.
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: Also need an option for none of the above on question 2. There's untapped data there!
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: can you add a "commuter eBike" option to the poll? I'd be curious how many of us ride unassisted on the trails and use an ebike for transportation (i do)
  • 6 1
 I don't hit any pavement any more. Been hit twice on a road bike. Both completely random. I've used up my nine lives. I work in the insurance industry. If you saw the statistics on how insanely dangerous the roads have become since smartphones were introduced....
  • 1 0
 @WhoTookIt: it's half way down the list of other bikes you ride.....
  • 11 0
 @mikekazimer: no option for "I don't even own a car, my bike is my transportation"? riding once a week "or more" seems like a pretty low bar for the highest option...
  • 2 1
 @dominic54: Exactly. I live in a very rural area and it would be impossible for me to ride to work or a store. I'm a custom homebuilder and have to drive my truck to jobsites so I have my tools. But I live only 2 miles from my local trailhead (one of the reasons I built my house where I did) and I try as much as possible to ride from my house to the trails. Doesn't that count for something?
  • 3 0
 For real. Get a crash course on how to make polls.
  • 3 0
 I “commute” by bike a lot, but I work from home. Go figure that one out
  • 2 0
 @dontcoast: Best we can do would be a down-commuter eBike option
  • 1 0
 @SimonVelo: I hope traffic's not too bad.
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: No option for DJ bike. That qualify as a MTB?
  • 5 3
 Am I the only one seeing that the options multiple people are bitching about not being listed, are clearly listed? I think the polls are fun even if they data isn’t super accurate, close enough in my books.
  • 6 1
 @Chefwebley: read the comment from Kazimer above. He added some options later (after a lot of votes were already taken, so the data is worthless)
  • 3 4
 @Chefwebley: nope, I see that too. People just like to bitch.
  • 74 1
 What prevents you from riding instead of driving to the trailhead closest to you? Nothing - all rides are from my doorstep.
  • 16 1
 Yeah. There seems to be a weird assumption that no one rides to the trail head. The third question is only soliciting answers from people who always drive to their local riding area. That's the only time I do regularly ride instead of drive when both are an option.
  • 3 0
 About 45km...
  • 4 1
 FU you lucky handsome SOB!!!
  • 1 0
 That is a bonus for where you live. It would be nice to be able to have trails next to your house. The closest trails are 7 miles from me. I have ridden a fair amount to them, but the ride ends up being 3 hours plus and the road ride is not my favorite.
  • 4 0
 @Tormy: All my rides start at my doorstep also
  • 1 0
 I like to shuttle so gotta drive to the goods most times.
  • 68 1
 My issue is that is the lack of infrastructure for safely storing my bike once I get somewhere. I want to ride a nice bike and enjoy my time on it but the chance of it getting stolen to messed with is too high for it to have the same utility as a car. The only time I've ever found success commuting on my bike is when it goes into my office with me and is secure.
  • 13 1
 100% agree. Bike thieves prevent me from using my bike more for grocery runs and errands. Screw those guys for making us use cars
  • 44 0
 @GFozzz: everyone needs a pub bike. One that barely works and the thief would likely be doing you a favour if it was stolen.
  • 14 0
 that's why I use what we in germany call a "Stadtschlampe" which translates to "city bitch". An old and not very nice looking bike for commuting that probably won't be stolen because it is not worth a lot
  • 21 0
 In college I built a bar bike to lock up downtown at night. Got an old Gary Fisher frame and parts off craigslist for $50. Its a fast, fun bike to ride in the city and it doesn't look nice so it doesn't attract thieves. Even if it was stolen the biggest loss would be sentimental value. 10 years later and its actually the bike I ride to work everyday. A functional and fun bike doesn't need to be expensive in this application.
  • 4 1
 @bashhard: Everything in San Francisco gets stolen. Germany sounds nice!
  • 12 0
 @GFozzz: As the kids say, N+1 bro. Ride bikes everyday. The more bikes you ride in a week, the closer you are to Jah.
  • 1 0
 @carbking: In Winnipeg the methheads and natives steal those pub bikes
to it dont matter what you ride here and its to petty for the po poes to even care about.
  • 4 0
 Yep, you have to have a cheap beater bike to got to the store. In my area, lots of stolen bikes, so I will not take my mtb bike to the store and lock it up.
  • 10 1
 I know that safety can be an issue but think there is a lot of room for limiting opportunities on the user side. Have a good lock that needs professional tools for cracking it and lock the bike to a fixed stable element - this already eradicates all random street thefts and only leaves room for rare professionals. Choose a parking spot with high human traffic instead of hiding in a dark corner. For a regular city bike replace the quick releases for wheels / seatpost with fixed mounts. Shift into the highest gear when short-time parking low-risk environment without any lock to have some time to react if in sight. Take the no-value crack bike if you plan to have it parked for days in a dodgy neighborhood.

With these rules I never had a bike stolen in my life and only lost a quick-release front wheel so far. Compared to the city I think the risk of theft at races or bikeparks is much higher because security is lower and most likely professional thefts at work.
  • 5 0
 @paulpimml: while i agree we live in a sheltered world with hardly any bike thieves here in Switzerland...
  • 1 0
 @jamesml: Denver was/is the same way. Didn't used to be in 2010-12 or so.
  • 2 0
 @paulpimml: For approx. $100 US, anyone can pick up a battrey powered grinder/cuttter at major hardware retailers that will cut thru vast majority of locks on the market.
  • 4 0
 @paulpimml: All you need is a portable grinder. In BC (and i'm sure other places), thieves have no shame and will do it in broad daylight on the busiest street downtown.
  • 3 0
 My “cheap” hardtail was meant to do double duty - trails and commuting etc, but a few XT upgrades and some nice wheels later it is clearly too nice for commuting. Someone has already tried to steal it when I popped into a shop. So time to buy another bike for commuting.
  • 1 0
 @carbking: also known as “ghetto bikes”
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: Exactly what I was going to say … easy to say from Switzerland. Which is cool. Be glad you don’t have the same concentration of dirtbags as other places.
  • 1 0
 @bashhard: “city bitch” I can only imagine the origin of the phrase.
  • 4 0
 A cheap (but well-maintained) bike with a good lock that exceeds the value of the bike should be a safe combination.
  • 3 0
 @sorrymissjackson: my best bike lock has been "locking bike next to a nicer bike with a cheaper lock." But in reality, I only ride places where I can take my bike inside. Lots of bars and restaurants have indoor bike parking these days.
  • 3 0
 @bashhard: You live a very sheltered life there. Unfortunately, in the US and even Canada thieves are so crappy they'll steal even the most worthless bikes, and if they can't get it because the frame is locked they will steal every component that can be removed...even if it's not QR.

You can come out to your $25 bike and it'll be gone or just a frame in a matter of hours.
  • 1 1
 I believe there are two main factors when it comes to having a bike stolen. Ease of stealing(how secured is the bike, would there be many witnesses, ect.), and how nice and expensive is the bike.

The trick to not having your bike stolen mainly comes down to having some security(no need to have the most expensive gigantic lock there is if the thief has all the time in the world to get a grinder out and cut it), and then having a bike that does not appear to be the nicest in the parking area (It doesn't mean that bike has to be shitty. It just needs to look shitty. Decals half pealed off, paint chipped, poorly spray painted parts, dirty frame, rust, worn mtb tyres, etc.)
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: I can tell from that comment that you don't live in Basel Smile
  • 1 0
 There is a huge homeless population next to my work, nothing is safe. A ghost bike was stolen, I only know that because I saw a guy riding one.
  • 1 0
 @jamesml: it's a pub bike + a decent lock. Methheads usually don't have tools to break a decent kryptonite ulock.
  • 2 0
 @macaroni69: true but no one will get a power grinder to chase $100 bikes. If they spent the money those people will be after more expensive bikes.
  • 1 0
 @bearstearns: Germany is way better than NA indeed. Got my very nice flip flops stolen from the change room in a swimming pool shortly after we moved to Canada from Germany.... In Germany I lost my sunglasses on a trail and someone brought them to a "Huette" and my friend got my sunglasses from the owner once month later. (Huette are places in mountains where you can enjoy a beer and some food after or during a proper hike in mountains)
  • 1 0
 @spaced: you have not clue the access to portal power tools or determination of methheads in North America have. No portable bike lock is safe if bike is out of site of the owner...none.
  • 47 0
 Like most Americans who live in Euclidean zoning neighborhoods, commuting or running errands by anything other than a car sucks. I love my house and the area I live, but would love if retail and other services were woven in a little better rather than sequestered in clumps miles away. Thus, I am compelled to drive most places.
  • 14 2
 Relatively rare to find good urbanism in modern cities.
  • 6 0
 @aug7hallak: I'd say all of my city living experiences in the US have provided me with, if not walkable, certainly bikeable access to any services I regularly need. I don't think I've ever lived further than a mile from a grocery store, restaurants, bars, schools, and convenience stores.

That being said, most people in the USA live in suburbs where car commuting is so dominant that other options are highly unappealing, though certainly doable.
  • 15 0
 Most modern housing developers are literally the scum that suck the soul out of our lives in so many ways these days. Car centric neighborhood design is only the tip of the iceberg.
  • 4 0
 @WhoTookIt: in many cases those things are relatively accessible by bike, but the infrastructure makes that considerably melee dangerous than driving. Which sucks.
  • 8 1
 @kleinblake: Totally true, no matter where you are in the US you're at the mercy of car drivers, and the general car-buying trends of the US are trending worse and worse. That being said, I'd rather be hit on my bike than be a person who daily drives a F250 10 miles to work, so... Big Grin
  • 7 1
 @WhoTookIt: you're talking about cities. TwoNGlenn likely lives in the suburbs. Suburban design is death, closed system neighborhoods requiring residents to take the long way out and around, rather than making direct connections closer to "as the crow flies". Connections and greater community accessibility are the antithesis to the security provided by suburbia.
  • 6 0
 @GTscoob: yup. I live on an older suburb with mature trees and diverse architecture. I do have a convenience store and a pub within staggering distance. I even have some nice trails within riding distance (most of them are hiking only; can’t stop me at night) The new neighborhoods being built are criminally sterile and insular. I think many of us would drive less if everything wasn’t built for car culture.
  • 1 0
 @GTscoob: Hah, it's a lot harder in the suburbs for sure, from biking in them intermittently throughout my life. It's still certainly doable, but the fear and ease of car use stops the vast majority from doing so.
  • 2 0
 @aug7hallak: especially in the US
  • 4 0
 My neighbors would pack their van up with bikes and drive to the school park. It was a quarter mile away! That is what most people do, walking or biking is not an option and the thought of not driving never crosses their mind. It is 4 miles for me to bike to less than mediocre trails. I do that sometimes but have found myself driving 15-30 miles to get decent riding.
  • 7 0
 @rcrocha: your neighbors are tools.
  • 3 1
 To me good town/development planning and infrastructure is the key to a lot of this. Providing good infrastructure usually eats into developers profits so they need to be forced via the planning system.
More cycle paths separated by physical barriers please.
  • 38 1
 Missing the "I use Maxxis Maxgrip" and riding on a road is like pedlling through a thick Borscht
  • 1 0
 so true.
  • 19 0
 I think mountain bike trail systems that are bikeable from residential areas should be a priority of most or every trail advocacy group. This democratizes access to the outdoors and brings it to youth that can't drive, and is just a better use of time. I've mostly been able to ride to trails in places I've lived, and far prefer spending 20 minutes riding on pavement to a trail to spending that time loading a bike into a car, driving, unloading it, riding, all to repeat that process at the end.
  • 11 0
 Also - being nice and warmed up when the dirt starts!
  • 4 0
 This x1000. Time on a bike is time on a bike, time dicking around to go somewhere in your car is just that.
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: this is it for me. I have 2 trail systems near my house approx 5 and 15 mins pedal from my door respectively. By the time I hit the first trail the blood is flowing and legs are ready!
  • 4 0
 @no-good-ideas: bonus points: hit the convenience store on the ride home for a tasty beverage, leaning muddy steed against the outside wall like you’re ten again. Crack into said beverage while riding one handed the rest of the way.
  • 13 1
 Weather is why I don't commute ride more often.. As soon as proper spring sets in and it's consistently dry, hell yeh I'm cycling to work.. but in the cold, wet and the dark.. no no no.. did that for nearly 20 years.. I'm not going back to it now.. it's miserable!
  • 12 12
 Wimp
  • 9 3
 I'm entering my 20th year of commuting in the pissing sideways frozen rain and loving it more than ever. What made you go soft?
  • 6 2
 @L0rdTom: Sitting in the office covered in sweat/rainwater isn't comfortable. There's nothing "soft" about not wanting to put yourself or colleagues through your stank.
  • 3 1
 @redrook: waterproof panniers, an extra change of clothes and some space to be able to get cleaned up and change takes care of that. A dedicated commuter bike with full fenders helps as a dry bum feels way less miserable than a wet one.
  • 2 2
 @redrook: I just keep a small towel, deodorant and hair wax in the office, bring a change of clothes with me, and ride in board shorts and a merino t shirt. Gloves in the winter, mudguards year round, zero stank.
  • 5 0
 @L0rdTom: would your colleagues agree?
  • 1 2
 @kevinturner12: yeah I double check pretty regularly haha. Underdress for the weather and you have no problem
  • 3 1
 @justwan-naride: What if you don't have a space to get clean and changed?
  • 3 1
 @L0rdTom: I think you have polite/intimidated colleagues. Every colleague of mine who cycles has always had a stank unless they have a shower, which isn't possible in most workplaces. Again, nothing soft about having consideration for others (or not wanting a miserable f*cking commute by bike on UK roads in UK weather).
  • 3 2
 @redrook: lol ok mate, clearly our mileage varies, although I can absolutely confirm that my colleagues would delight in winding me up if I smelled. Like most things, whether your commute is miserable or not is up to you.
  • 2 0
 I normally commute year round, but this year I have been driving a lot due to unusually cold and wet conditions. I have gear for the wet, and for the cold, but not the combination of the two. And since it is so rare to have these kinds of conditions, I am not buying the gear for it.
  • 2 1
 @L0rdTom: If you enjoy the wet and the stank that's up to you. Feel sorry for anyone sitting near you bud (for more than one reason).
  • 1 0
 @L0rdTom: "whether your commute is miserable or not is up to you"

Exactly, I drive and it's much more pleasurable, for me and everyone else.
  • 13 0
 Why isn’t there a poll question about how often we ride to the trail instead of driving?
  • 2 0
 Exactly. I have >5 riding areas near me. 2 of them I will pedal to every time, and drive to the rest.
  • 10 1
 Swiss person here who doesn't own a car:

What is a trailhead? If i ride from home, there is nothing like a trailhead - i just ride on existing paths and trails that just start from random places.
If i go somewhere specifically, e.g. Lenzerheide or Davos etc., i wouldn't call the mountain station of the gondola a trailhead.

Yes, we are very lucky here in Switzerland to have hiking trails that mostly are legal to ride here in Switzerland.
  • 6 0
 Swiss person in Switzerland by any chance?
  • 4 0
 @L0rdTom: Swiss person not in switzerland, also car free.... where the hell are the trains here?! Car culture sucks.
  • 2 1
 @dontcoast: How could you possibly leave? You were born in the best place in the world?
  • 2 0
 @L0rdTom: raised in Chicago so I'm a cultural orphan.

Nowhere is perfect, Switzerland is pretty incredible but Coastal California means riding bikes all year, Oceans and Mountains close-ish...I'll take it.

Still, where's my damn train to Tahoe?!?!
  • 10 0
 The second question needs checkboxes, not radio buttons. There is a lot other than mountainbikes I'm riding, but I only clicked the unicycle. Even though a unicycle technically isn't a bicycle.
  • 2 0
 Have to add: I just noticed that they changed it to checkboxes so I entered my other options too (commuter and BMX). This is also the first time I learned that a "coaster brake bike" is a bike category.
  • 15 3
 Second question needs a "DJ" response
Third question needs a "Because road is garbage miles" response.
  • 4 2
 How is road garbage miles?
  • 10 0
 I live in the Netherlands. I guess that pretty much sums up how much I use a bike to go anywhere...
  • 1 0
 It’s a bit of a ride to get to any mountains though! (I used to live in the hilly part, near Maastricht)
  • 1 0
 @lewiscraik: Yeah, that's a pity. It's a 2-hour drive to get to any hills higher than 300 m. It's about 3 hours to get to the nearest (lift-assisted) bike park.

But there are some nice trails starting 250 m from my house. There's not much elevation and not very technical (for the most part) but they're still fun.
  • 1 0
 @CowardlyBear: Doesn’t sound too different to where I live in the UK, any decent riding is over an hour away, but 6 hours to anywhere lift assisted.
  • 1 0
 @CowardlyBear: 1h by car to hills over 200m and I live in Bavaria...
  • 2 0
 Yeah, but the city counsels are being challenged by the swift increase of pedal assisted bikes. They did luckily pull people out of their cars and also made many logistics companies shift more of their urban logistics from vans onto assisted cargo bikes. But they are too slow replacing car lanes by wider bicycle lanes. The speed differences are scaring younger children and elderly riders. And older riders on bikes on pedal assist can be downright scary too as they clearly haven't gone this fast in a long while, let alone on such a heavy bike. I actually had to teach my kids to stay clear of them. Yes maybe The Netherlands historically has a headstart but sadly even here the infrastructure is behind with respect to what is needed. Fewer people in cars and more on bikes (and the assisted ones in particular) has to go hand in hand with taking more room from the cars and giving more to the bicycles. I know the shift is ongoing already but it is still way too slow. Riding bikes in traffic should be a happy experience for kids, not a scary one. Otherwise we might very well run into issues later on.

The lack of hills is a trade-off indeed. But I'd rather just ride my bike everywhere and not have the most amazing trails nearby than to have the most amazing trails but that it'd be outright dangerous for my kids to go anywhere. At 10 yo, they can happily ride home from a friend 10km away and at a much younger age they could do that with me riding along. If that's not possible because of the infrastructure and the cars, there is something horribly wrong.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Yeah infrastructure could be further improved but in my area, it's already pretty good. Biking to work is faster (and healthier, more environmentally friendly, cheaper, etc) than by car, plus there is more parking space for bikes than cars at work.

And I completely agree about it being better to be able to ride everywhere (work, shops, ...) and having to take the car to a bike park instead of the other way around.
  • 3 0
 @vinay: Actually, research has shown that e-bikes have hardly replaced cars. They have mostly replaced normal bikes. Although you are right that some of the bike lanes are very crowded and dangerous sometimes because of speed differences and unclear rules, Dutch bike infrastructure is second to none.
  • 1 0
 @ak-77: Yeah, I don't quite question the fact that e-bikes have replaced cars. As I mentioned, even vans in the city have been replaced by cargo bikes. The issue is, the infrastructure didn't keep up. Less cars and more bikes (especially of the cargo type and the faster ones) require more room for bikes at the expense of room for cars. The transition is there, but too slow to my liking. That said, yeah it is still way better/safer than it is in nearly all other busy places I've seen.
  • 5 0
 I still ride to work, but I've stopped taking my kid to daycare in a trailer. Some nut gunned his engine and passed us on shared bike lane, slammed on his brakes, yelled 'I'll f*in run you over!" then tried to follow us home. That's a big nope from me about taking my kid anywhere near cars anymore.

To be clear, we're on the sharrow lane for all of 100m before getting to a bike path, there's an elementary school down the street, and its got speed bumps all over.
  • 7 4
 You should carry a gun.
  • 1 0
 wtf is wrong with people?
  • 3 0
 @dreamlink87, pickup truck, right? They’re almost always dudes in pickups.
  • 2 0
 @millertime2304: almost, Toyota sequoia, the pickup truck of suvs
  • 8 0
 Needs a none for other types of bike.
  • 8 0
 I ride an old hardtail MTB with a rack to commute. Not included in type.
  • 13 0
 Yeah there defo needs to be a ‘pub bike’ option
  • 6 0
 Don't know about Canada, or the rest of the world, but in the U.S. outside of large cities it's VERY rare to see bike-friendly infrastructure.
  • 4 0
 If you think driving in Boston is dangerous, try riding a bike through traffic to get to the 4 places worth riding close by ( 10 miles). It's faster than driving, but more dangerous than the actual trails you're riding to.

The fleet of rentable bikes all around town makes riding around on clear days super convenient though. It's rare to be more than 10 minutes by foot away from a blue bike which you can drop off almost anywhere in town when you're done. I almost enjoy doing small chores and errands on those
  • 1 0
 Boston is probably the best city for living by bike in. Take advantage of it!
  • 4 1
 @sjma, I'd actually way rather ride a bike in Boston than drive. I lived there for a couple months and had a blast riding around the city. There's a weird flow state that you get into when you're trying to avoid getting run over by a bus or a taxi for hours at a time. I am glad that I don't have to do that every day, though.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: when I’m on my gravel/road bike I agree, cutting it up around town is great and is by far the fastest way to get around. There isn’t anywhere in town that takes more than 30 minutes to get to.

Trying to get to Middlesex Fells, Blue Hills, or Cutler Park from Allston at rush hour after work on my mountain bike is way more of a dicey proposition though
  • 1 0
 @sjma: for real. Last I checked, riding an MTB on 93 is frowned upon.
  • 1 0
 @adamstraus: you gotta wait until summertime when the dirt bike and atv kids come out to play. But seriously, riding down Blue Hill Ave at rush hour will test your bike control and reflexes in ways you never imagined
  • 3 0
 Basically never. The joys of living in bumfuck nowhere is that everything's either in walking distance, or driving distance. On the plus side, getting to trails is a case of 'exit garage door, turn left... or right,' which is nice.
  • 8 2
 Once a week (or more) is the best you can do? What about 80% or more, always, or I don't own a car?
  • 8 0
 I was thinking the same. I commute five days a week by bike and sometimes "utility cycle" at the weekend too.
  • 3 0
 @korev: likewise. Pedal commute 5 x per week. Wife walks or cycles too. We ride our one car to get to the trails, errands, and kid's activities.
  • 4 1
 I dont own a vehicle or have a driving licence and have never taken a driving test, I have a few mtn bikes
though and do all my commuting via a bike. I did in the earlier days learn to drive in a triumph dolomite with
overdrive and did so illegally, occasional run ins with the plod had me lying my arse off with, just bought the car
my name is fred, getting written producer in 7 days, then things got computerised, anpr etc so I grew facial hair
and went back to the Raleigh maverick and muddyfox explorer and moved on.
For once none of the options in the tick box apply to me, wahooo I'm an oddball, suckers! : )
  • 2 0
 hooray for the oddballs
  • 3 0
 Why is every single bike in the other types a play bike of some kind?
I have a couple of leisure bikes, sure, but also a cargo bike for shopping and big loads, and a folder for taking train to cities - and the pub bike of course
  • 3 0
 If I want to ride at the moment, I have to drive to where there isn’t too much snow. But once the snow melts here, I will ride to the trails most of the time. I’m retired from work but I commuted by bike as much as I could all my working life. As I aged though, riding home at night on rainy days became too much risk for me. Traffic in Vancouver where I used to live had gotten more and more crowded over the 40 or so years that I lived there.
  • 6 0
 My biggest take away from this is when I buy another old crappy van I need to chrome wrap it!
  • 4 0
 I like your use of "when"
  • 2 0
 Crappy old van owner here (30 year old ambulance). It is the best bike vehicle.
  • 3 0
 These poll options are horrible at covering the possibilities. I ride to get to places but it isn't for commuting or groceries or errands. Why not just ask how often people choose to ride instead of drive when both are possible? The type of destination is a completely separate topic. The two cannot be combined and produce meaningful results.
  • 3 0
 I live in Oregon, I'm literally 1.5hrs from any trail network and have to drive whether I want to or not. I will say, the drive is worth it being able to ride Black Rock, Alsea Falls, Post Canyon, Sandy Ridge, Mac and Dunn forests etc. - If I want to go 2 to 3 hrs, I get Oak Ridge and Bend too Smile
  • 2 0
 This poll seems to be constructed with assumption that owning a car is a default state for a bike owner.

> How often do you ride a bike for tranportation / utility purposes?

"Very often." - it's not covering my case. I do not have car at all, always commute by bike to work and use trains if I need to get to a trail.
  • 8 2
 Does an Ebike count as "riding" or "driving", asking for a friend.
  • 11 10
 Neither. It falls under "cheating".
  • 4 2
 Only if its ridden 5+ miles to the trails does it count as riding.
Pack the emtb on the back of a truck to drive 20 miles to ride at my local spot? GFY
  • 3 1
 @mi-bike: what if I use it to shuttle vs a 1 ton diesel truck, still cheating?
  • 1 0
 @twozerosix: still worth driving a Emtb to trailhead if self shuttling IMO vs using truck to shuttle?
  • 6 0
 @twozerosix: Everytime an emtb gets loaded on a car God kills a kitten.
  • 6 1
 @justwan-naride: When it gets loaded on a 1 ton diesel truck God kills a kitten *and* a puppy.
  • 3 0
 Bike commuting is hard currently: my office took away the onsite showers, making it less convenient to take my bike to work. Usually when I'm going somewhere else my family is with me and they can't ride very fast or far.
  • 3 12
flag vinay FL (Mar 31, 2023 at 12:37) (Below Threshold)
 Never realized groceries need onsite showers before people start doing their shopping by bike.
  • 4 0
 @vinay: We he didn't mention groceries at all, he mentioned his office. So there is that....
  • 2 0
 @vinay: I'd love to wash my veggies at the market. Some outside basins would do the trick - maybe one of those salad spinners to get the wet off.
  • 2 0
 @bman33: Yeah, I saw that. I tried to be funny and extend that to the reason why not more people would be just doing their groceries by bike too, but it didn't really work out. Jokes on March 31th are pretty desperate and shouldn't be attempted indeed. Better to just let it rest and grow for the day it actually matters.
  • 3 1
 Real answers to another myopic poll:

I ride to my trail head most days because it is three blocks from my house.

I only ride Park!! (have so wanted to say that)

I don't ride any other kind of bicycle, except an MTB.

When there are no cars on roads, I will ride a bicycle to work.
  • 2 0
 Should be able to pick multiple options, and need to add “you don’t ride to do errands bc you value your bike too much to leave it unattended chained to something outside.” Might have to pick up a huffy now to do errands lol
  • 2 0
 PB still lacking scientific polls. I live in a remote area & am self employed so I drive to other remote areas, home office otherwise. I can bike to my trails but it's a scary highway so I drive 10 mins... no need to die biking 45 mins one way when it's a 5 min drive. Point being: most of these polls do not address the range of options, just the assumed options that everyone lives in urban areas or perfect "community bike" areas. GOSH
  • 5 1
 Dude, this is Pinkbike, not Gallup.
  • 2 0
 @TheR: Not shit. I'm not referring to statisitcal data collection, just polls that don't include leading questions, which is the antithesis of any polls. Doesn't have to be Gallup to include more than 2 scenerios and then all questions based on two narrow assumptions.
  • 1 1
 @Mtn-Goat-13: Hoes be mad.
  • 1 0
 @TheR: The teens just got the braces off
  • 2 0
 I ride to one trail center from my house.....because my property connects to it via my own private trail. lol everything else is a drive because most everything is over 30 min via car, and that would take hours on a MTB and you'd be exhausted. pointless. I feel like most people fit into this latter category...
  • 2 0
 The options don't really match my situation even though I am probably in a fairly standard and common demographic:
live in a decent-sized city; don't own a car; have an extensive transit system to get me to a whole range of excellent trails (or anywhere else I want to go without a bike!); gravel bike commute a reasonable distance as near to 5 days per week for as near to 50 weeks per year as I can (stopped by extreme weather, injured/sick/bleugh-days, special after-work social events, too much shit to carry on the bike, etc); also have an enduro bike, all-rounder HT for easier trails/bikepacking/crap weather commuting/loaning and pub bike to just go places.
Lots of that list can't be recorded by the above questions and options despite being fairly 'normal' (my situation, obviously, not me...)
  • 2 0
 When I first got an Ebike, I ride to my local trails from home, within 15km, or if further away I tend to park central between trail areas to maximise the ride. However back on my normal bike, were I used to drive to trails, I'm not also riding again due to the extra fitness from the eeb.
  • 2 0
 Sucky poll.

How often do you drive to ride? Maybe once or twice a year.

Which bikes do I own? All of them, plus fat bike.

What's a trail head? People like me who think life is best when I'm riding or hiking a trail?

Also, Pickup trucks and vans are not a thing in Europe, as in you don't own one unless it's something you need for work. You either have a Renault Clio (Europe), or a massive electric SUV (Norway).
  • 2 0
 To call once a week ‘very often’ makes no sense whatsoever. What about all the people who commute daily or don’t even own a car? For the non leisure riding to have a significant positive environmental impact it needs to replace the majority of your car drives. Once a week just doesn’t cut it. I’d say 1-2 times a week is still ‘sometimes’. Once month is ‘rarely’. I understand this comes from an urban perspective and in many places it’s not that easy to commute by bike but in many places it is.
  • 2 0
 Poor North America. Where riding your bike for transportation once a week is 'very often'. I use my car about once a week. Usually to go to other trails than the ones up to 15km from my house.
I did live in Northern California for a while. Commuted by bike every day. I loved it when people looked at me puzzled and asked: 'but what if it rains?'
  • 1 0
 what about the theft if you ride to the grocery store or wherever. the price of bikes is more then cars now a days. live on Van island and gas is expensive but would take the truck instead of getting popcorn for my girl and loosing my bike.
  • 1 0
 I live a 10 minute bike ride from work so try to ride as much as I can. I drive more often than I'd like because the mountain bike trails are nearby but in the opposite direction to work, ie I can get a good ride in before work but it can be inconvenient to ride rather than drive if I want to get a decent ride in without being late to work
  • 4 0
 For the type of bikes question, the question is stated as plural, yet only one bike type can be chosen.
  • 2 0
 I think seasonality is an issue not covered here. I know folks do it, but riding for commutes or errands in a wet, cold winter sucks and I usually opt to drive. Spring-Fall though I tend to bike more often than not.
  • 1 0
 I can ride to multiple trailheads for nice easy/intermediate riding after work in the city. Often drier weeks before the rest of the trails outside the city. Or I can drive 45min to 1hr for the more interesting gnar, shuttle trails, and trail networks outside the city. Really it's both.
  • 2 0
 I work from home, so I had to say I never commute by bike, but I also never commute any other way. Most of my riding is riding to the trailhead, but that wasn't an option. For farther away trails, I still have to drive.
  • 1 0
 The good trails are too far for me to bike. Plus I like taking the backroads and zipping down them on the way there and back. I sometimes drive a bit down the road to the country market to get lunch and then get back riding. Also usually end up breaking something on my bike so id rather not try to ride it home or do a roadside fix. Easier to leave spare parts, tools snacks and water in the car than having to lug everything on the bike and either having to ride with it or try and hide it to prevent it getting stolen.
  • 2 0
 I ride MTB largely because road rides are too dangerous. I live in Suburban Texas, and I’d be a sweaty exhausted mess or laying dead like so many armadillos before I ever made it to a trail.
  • 4 0
 i once took an 8 mile ride to the place i work and back on a v10. not as much exhausting as BORING. 50 minutes one way
  • 2 0
 "What types of bikes do you regularly ride (other than a dedicated mountain bike)?"

For this to be a useful survey of PB users, "none" needs to be an answer to this, otherwise you're missing out crucial context-making data.
  • 1 0
 If I can't go door-to-door I either try to find a friend to carpool, gear up for a longer ride, or I don't go. It's pretty easy, and one of the biggest factors in the locations I've chosen to be. I've lived in a lot of different areas, but I always go for door-to-door rides. More road rides if the MTB zones aren't as favorable and more MTB rides if the trailhead is closer.
  • 1 0
 My mtb almost never sees travel on/in a motor vehicle aside from driving to the races, I just consider the ride to the trail as part of the ride, which of course it is. I run errands and commute to work (merely 4 miles one way) on a kinda cheap State fixed gear.
  • 1 0
 Most cities I’ve lived in give you the option of living near trails or living near amenities - but not both. Also, to live near trails often means contributing to urban sprawl that bulldozes natural areas with trails and enhances our reliance on cars. Hope to one day live in one of those magical places where I can use the bike to get me to the grocery store, the bar, and the trail...
  • 1 0
 I live within a 3 minute drive to my bike park in Hinton, Ab. I almost always drive there though because I’m not a fan of riding my single speed dirt jumper up the hill to the park haha I can’t even sit and pedal that damn bike.
  • 1 0
 It might be useful to add “I work from home” and “I get my groceries” delivered options to allow you to distinguish between people who don’t commute y bike because they don’t need to and those who use alternative mode of transportation.
  • 1 0
 1. You didn't ask how many people bike to the trails...
2. You didn't ask how far away people's trails are in connection to whether or not they bike (which would be useful data).
3. You didn't include fatbikes in the "other bike" category! The frozen north disapproves. Where is the fatbike field test where you force Levy to suffer?
  • 1 0
 I live in the burbs of Vancouver, and our bike path (currently April 1st) has a small creek running down part of it. Their push for cycling is lip service in my area.

Add the crappy trails, the 2 bridges and fighting cars it's not worthwhile to ride to work. I'd rather save the time and effort and go to a local park / mountain afterward
  • 1 0
 Like many people who ride to work, I do it every day because there is no parking at work, the bike is quicker at rush hour, and taking the bus is slow and boring. I also ride from home for almost every MTB ride. I do own a car and use that for using more people or stuff or going further.

This poll is a total fail for anyone who’s a frequent bike commuter.
  • 1 0
 I have a trail system about 3 miles from my house that is pretty nice, not great, but fine for limited time riding. There was a vey busy road between my house and the trails that made riding there not an option. Last year my municipality finished a greenway that connects that trail system right to my neighborhood. Its been life changing to have the ability to go mountain biking right from home without needing to crank a car.
  • 1 0
 I only ride to illegal trails in my area because the city I live in is anti mountain bike and its not cuz there is not room or rideable trails. I grew up in a different town and had never really considered driving because I had trails in town. Cool story huh?
  • 1 0
 I think I speak for every American that lives in a top 50-top 100 city by population. 1 I don't ride to commute/run errands cause of distance 2 Even if I wanted to it would be a matter of hours/days before my bike was stolen.

Bike theft is hands down the #1 reason I wouldn't even if I could.
  • 1 0
 For a few years in my adult life, I moved to a large city for professional opportunities. Instead of being able to ride to trails, I commuted 1-2hrs to ride. That didn't last long. I went nuts living in a place where I had to spend an hour or more to get to trails. If I can't live close enough to trails to ride to them, then I know my train is coming off the rails.
  • 3 0
 So where's the option on the last one for people who just want to see the results?
  • 4 0
 Because downhill bikes are way better than uphill bikes
  • 7 0
 i don't always ride downhill but when i do, it's downhill
  • 1 0
 I hate driving and I live within riding distance of tons of riding, but now that I have two small kids, it's kind of relaxing and focusing to get some windshield time before getting to the trail head.
  • 1 0
 I changed home. I start riding now on my door step. From busy urban setting to outdoor heaven, I am happy to have 2 bikes for transportation and play time . It s the best decision I took.
  • 4 0
 Look at all those BMX backgrounds!
  • 1 0
 BMX is the closest thing to DJ on the list so I went with that.
  • 1 0
 Considering our riding community was most excited about building a big ass parking lot over everything else the past few years, I can understand the sentiment of this article.
  • 1 0
 My e-commuter is an eMTB cause I can ride trails to work, but it's too far for a meatMTB.
Also, my closest trailhead is 200m from my front door, so driving to it would be more hassle than riding Big Grin
  • 2 0
 I drive to the trail, over the trail head and onto the trails, never owned a bike . Most people who ride them are easily offended and have no sense of humour or sarcasm.
  • 1 0
 Not nearly enough bike choices for
kinds of bikes to ride.

When I’m not on my prime MTB
I ride my old Bianchi cyclocross bike as a road bike and gravel bike and commuter.
  • 1 0
 I ride to the trails 90% of time (which is about two miles away) and ride my foldie to dinner when the wife isn't cooking. I'd ride every where if it wasn't so hot and humid here!
  • 1 0
 Ahh yes I will use my dedicated enduro bike to ride around town and risk losing thousands of dollars when I can commute on a beater road bike that's worth $200 that's faster and less risky.
  • 2 0
 You forgot to include that it's too much risk of losing your bike to theft by riding your bike somewhere for errands.
  • 1 0
 How far up mountain highway does one realistically need to live to ride Fromme from their house? The answer might surprise you...
  • 2 0
 My friends and I used to ride from East Van to Fromme when we were young.
  • 10 11
 Mtbers are among the least environmentally conscious outdoor enthusiasts. Change my mind.
Not just talking about “carbon footprint” from buying/mfg our bikes. But more like idling diesels at the TH, trash, and trail etiquette.
  • 6 0
 Probably not *the* worst, but somewhere up there. Off-roaders (quads, bikes, side-by-sides) do much more damage both to soil, and CO2 emissions. MTBers do align with truck ownership an awful lot. Maybe some people can justify a tacoma, but SO many Tundras, Sierras and just *huge* trucks at the trailhead.
  • 6 0
 speak for yourself. At least 90% of my rides start from my doorstep, I ride an over 6 year old bike, pick up litter in the woods and try to block strava lines to keep the trails from getting wider and wider
  • 5 0
 Skiers/snowboarders have entered the chat
  • 2 0
 Would wakeboarding or snowmobiling change your mind?
  • 1 0
 I walk to work, i cycle around town but I won't make a 4500$ bike my commuter because keeping it locked outside when it can be stolen would be moronic. But you must feel well you have a hot take
  • 3 1
 I will commute to work via bicycle in the summer, but not in the winter when there is snow everywhere
  • 2 0
 Q1: Very often, but only during the riding season. Aint commuting by bike mid-winter...
  • 3 0
 if you are going to do surveys...do them right!
  • 2 0
 Living in the mountains > living anywhere else
(can't commute or get groceries in the winter by bike)
  • 2 0
 Bar bike would likely be the most selected option if it was made available in that poll haha
  • 2 0
 Living in the Portland, OR metro area, anywhere worth riding is about an hour drive away.
  • 1 0
 Move to hr!
  • 1 0
 Yup, great trails within an hour drive of PDX. I lived there for a while but it was a dealbreaker in the end.
  • 4 1
 no option for i dont want my bike to get nicked...
  • 2 0
 Any time I can ride somewhere over driving, I do. That being said I don't wanna spend 20 miles of pavement on a trail bike.
  • 2 0
 Why there isn't an option for commuter/urban bike? If you ask if we commute by bike or not?
  • 2 0
 somebody missed the chance to paint that truck in matte black and add some red stripes to it
  • 2 0
 Uh, regarding that last question there needs to be an option if you do ride to your closest trails.
  • 1 0
 I tow a cooler at the worldcup. i guess i could tow my packout into the city. takes about the same amount of time between the two with traffic.
  • 1 0
 If, Iam going to crash, Iam going to hit tree or go over a berm!!! I am not going to get hit by a car. Sums up where and how I ride a bicycles
  • 1 0
 Why doesn't the last question ask about riding to the Trailhead? I rarely ride for errands, but ride to the trailhead 95% of the time... Ride to Ride is the best way to live!
  • 2 0
 Why I don't ride to the mountain? Because my trail dog would be exhausted before we hit dirt. lol
  • 2 0
 I ride to the trailhead sometimes (~6 miles from home, 2 miles from office), which isn't an option above.
  • 1 0
 Based on the majority of responses for the top two questions, riders very often commute or do groceries on gravel bikes?! So that's what those bikes are for!
  • 2 0
 I just came here to see that Van!

Poll: A. Hand Polished
B. Wrapped
  • 1 0
 What prevents me from riding bikes for purposes other than leisure?

I have 2 kids I need to drop off and pick up from school on the way to and from work.
  • 2 0
 I do that too. On a bike. I will admit, school is 500m from home and work is 3km, all on dedicated bike lanes or quiet residential streets. I am privileged enough to have been able to choose in which country I want to live and where I wanted to buy a house. But having most essentials within biking distance was a big factor in that choice.
  • 1 0
 95% of my local rides (4 miles from home) are from the door now. I used the car a few times in the winter but only because it was freeeezing, brrr.
  • 1 0
 I am from Zuid Netherlands and I have 4 bikes . drive them all day long. The thing is the infrastructure is the best in the world for bike,s
  • 1 0
 Somerville has bike lanes with mostly cars and downtown Boston is a death wish. Sorry Massholes, worst drivers in the country, ask any 802, 603 or 207.
  • 1 0
 I do a large portion of my riding after work, There is a few riding areas along my commute so I am not driving just for the sake of going riding.
  • 1 2
 I need a pinkbike filter for polls, transmission,
UCI garbage, new products, podcasts, beta,
the annoying English guy. Actually have you
Heard of waki.com? Best site for relevant
Bike related content. Good bye pinkbike-
You’re outside overlord has crushed you.
  • 2 0
 See ya. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out
  • 2 0
 if you dont live near the trails & they're too far to ride.... move house
  • 1 0
 the irony is i've commuted on a bike from 1999-2013. i only stopped because new work schedules / logistics made it considerably more difficult.
  • 1 0
 I live next to my trail head. I ride to the trail every time. Not in the poll.
  • 2 0
 Needs hybrid/city bike for other type of bike.
  • 1 0
 I think that counts overpriced gravel bike with flat bars
  • 3 0
 @premiumfrye: My hybrid cost $350 when I got it. Maybe a gravel bike is an overpriced hybrid?
  • 1 0
 I think they need an option for 21 year old hardtail. That’s my “road bike.”
  • 2 0
 I would absolutely love to have trails close to home. I need to move.
  • 1 0
 2 hour bike ride or 45 minute drive for the closest trail head worth going to.
  • 2 0
 The triathlete bike guy should get a triathlete tag next to his username
  • 2 0
 Why no DJ bike option for other type of bike?
  • 2 0
 I am just amazed there are 39 others that ride a unicycle here.
  • 3 0
 Yes , unicycles are underrated for commuting and grocery shopping. Everyone should have a unicycle for urban transportation. Coincidentally I have a unicycle for sale in the Buy and Sell. Check it out.
  • 1 0
 Living in smallish European town, commuting on foot and doing errands on foot always. Groceries with car once a week.
  • 1 0
 Literally too poor to afford a car so... yeah I chose the wrong sport smh
  • 2 0
 Always_i don't own a car. Missing option from poll
  • 1 0
 I’d love to ride my bike to work despite it being kinda far. I’d just be so sweaty. If we had showers then I would.
  • 3 0
 I Only Ride Park
  • 1 0
 Commuting through said park to get milk could end with a delicious milkshake
  • 2 0
 no option for "I dont own a car, my bike is my transportation"
  • 1 0
 My tires wearing out to quick stops me from going to the trails by bike on the paved roads
  • 1 0
 MTB is fun, commuting is not fun (commuting on singletrack would be a dream)
  • 1 0
 Bike theft, that’s why I rarely go to the store with it. Get a bike stolen once and it always stays on your mind.
  • 2 0
 Very often == once a week... LOL poor world
  • 1 3
 Why would you want the parking lots to be full of bikes? That would mean we are packed in like an ant colony. No thanks. Country life, and life in the US means driving to where you want to go. I don't want to be that close to anyone else, or what I need. Be nice to live next to a trail system, but not choosing where I live just based on that. I have a family to also consider, schools, etc.
  • 1 1
 and what about my dog?? The roads are not safe to bike on at the best of time, let alone with my faithful fur buddy.
NO options or thoughts for that to chosse.......
  • 2 0
 I wouldn't mind riding to the store if I didn't have to lock the bike up.
  • 1 0
 This, they completely glossed over the theft aspect, which living in Front Range Colorado LOL. Bikes just disappear seemingly instantly if left unattended.
  • 1 1
 I tried commuting once, but as a truck driver the gcvw of my rig was just too heavy to manage with a bicycle. Perhaps an e-bike would help.
  • 1 0
 Where's the "I never get groceries or do other errands by bike, because I'm too paranoid of my shit getting stolen"?
  • 1 0
 What about trains? I rarely see any car from the inside but I regularly take the train to the start of my rides.
  • 1 0
 Very often.... once a week ?
Very foten by Italian standards is every day, whatever activity is the topic.
  • 2 0
 I still cant drive yet so i ride everywhere.
  • 1 0
 In Sedona there is a trailhead at practically every street corner.
  • 2 0
 Fair weather commuter.
  • 1 0
 Another option. I dont have a car, I get the train or ride to the trails
  • 1 0
 No Fatbike in the other bike poll.
  • 1 0
 My other ride is a Transition Klunker Tonka truck edition
  • 1 0
 Check my Activity, commute ti work all year long Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Only ride dh and dj bikes. The options didn't list them.
  • 1 0
 I’m usually riding with my dog so we drive to the trailhead.
  • 1 0
 I live to far away to do other stuff on my mtb or else I would love to.
  • 1 0
 My house is 3km from the trailheads. Location, location, location.
  • 1 0
 well some people work and enjoy working in industries that are not close to any mountains
  • 2 0
 Polish to the metal.
  • 1 0
 no option for - I walk everywhere
  • 2 2
 I can see myself driving that van.
  • 5 1
 More like I can see myself seeing you drive that van.
  • 3 3
 I walk to work -take that, you virtue-signaling twats.
  • 1 0
 but that wouldn't create a clickbaity article because the outside bosses want to increase revenue
  • 1 0
 Where’s the DJ option?
  • 1 2
 We need more graphs ! we don't understand otherwise







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