Race Face SixC Cinch Crank - Review

 I'm throwing my money at the screen but nothing is happening.

 Haha Moe! Make it rain.

 I'm really into RaceFace products, no doubt about that. But it's just too obvious that pinkbike authors love their BC stuff a little too much.
- "The BSA30 tool needed for installation is different than what a standard external bottom bracket uses, but it's common enough that most shops should have one." Ok, I've just read that Rotor and Zipp, 2 companies that provide road bike stuff, also use this "standard". But why not use the perrfectly working standard Shimano, Truvativ, Straitline, ChrisKing, Hope, Acros, etc. use for X-Type bottom brackets? I don't carry a BottomBracket tool with me on multiday tour in the alps. And I seriously doubt that most bikeshop you come across have the tool necessary for RaceFace. Congrats. That seems just plain stupid to be, cause there is very little chance you get the necessary 30lbs from some ghetto improvised tool in case you need it. Also, I'm not keen to buy another tool for home repair, too.
- "We have noticed that the larger extractor bolt on the driveside crankarm could use a torque check and a drop of Loctite to prevent it from backing itself off, but that should only take a minute or two." The most charming way of saying "The driveside crankarm loosened, a thing that actually should not happen following correct installation."

Other than that, it really sounds like a sweet crank.

 @MatthewCarpenter- I take your point about the tool not being widely available, but with more 30mm systems coming on to the market, it will be increasingly common for bike shops to have one. Most LBSs who do a decent amount of road stuff probably already have one.
As for why you can't just use a standard tool- have you seen the size of the Cinch BBs? That's the size they need to be to accommodate a 30mm axle, so a standard x-type tool simply wouldn't fit.

I'm not sure what your point is about not carrying a BB tool while on multi-day trips in the alps. Nobody else does, because it's very unlikely that you'll need one (providing you installed your BB/Crank correctly in the first place)

Regarding the bit about the extractor bolt- I think you've read that wrong. An extractor bolt is simply that- an extractor bolt, used for removing the crank. Anyone who knows anything about RF cranks could tell you that this bolt does not hold the crank in place, and you can even take it out completely if you want. It's not ideal that it backed off slightly, but not the end of the world...

I say well done to Raceface for doing something different with their cranks, and pushing the boundaries of strength to weight ratios.

 thanks for the detailed reply!

 If you don't have the tool, a scroll saw, piece of 1x4 and a pencil works fine for me at least. I got my e*13 bb30 on tighter than 40nm that way.

 You mean sixcier and sixier these days...

 Touché

 And throw in a kiwi accdng while you're at it. Chur bro.

 race face has certainly cranked it up a notch with their new products

 The only time you need a 16mm or 5/8" allen key is if you need to swap spindles. So, worst case scenario, you're out $7.50 for an allen key that lets you use your cranks on damn near any bike.

 I have the Next SL's and wanted to change chainrings which was halted by the extractor bolt coming loose and backing itself out along with the crankarm bolt. Luckily enough I have said 16mm allen key, but not everyone has this, nor does every shop have this size of tool. And that allen key is more than $7.50 which is more than a person wants to spend for a tool that should not be necessary.
The correct torque and some red loc-tite should do the trick before leaving the factory.

 The 16mm Allen key comes with the spindle, if you purchase it separately. I swapped mine out from a fat bike and it came with the tool (small nut that uses a "normal" size Allen key to work it).

I agree the BB tool is a mistake - it's almost identicle to a regular shimano bb tool, but there's one more or one less tooth. It's not a different size. Now I have two BB tools in my bag - awesome.

Lastly, the threaded bb needs a lot of care to prevent squeaking. Re-greasing and cleaning. More than normal and is definitely annoying. I didn't have the issue with a press fit set up, likely because the diameter is so much larger.

 You have to grease the BB on installation, the orange paste you see is an anti-vibration paste. having to use a large allen key is the price you pay for light weight, a bigger allen key = less material on the cap = less weight, and isn't that what it's all about?

 Plus you can't really argue about spending $7.50 for an extra allen key if you have $600 for cranks..

@terrafire finally, so excited these are here! Haha

 Beefier spindle, beefier aluminum inserts, stronger carbon layup.

 Mark i had the same issue. I bought some Torx screws to replace it... MILES better, no idea why RF didn't supply with them in the first place. hit me up if you want me to post one to you.

 My guess is because of the new BB, replaceable spindle, and more layers of carbon in the layup.

 Have fun with your broken cranks then...

 Been running them for 8 months and still running great. Superstition be damned.

 if u use x0 now,u will save nearly 100g

 Which reminds me the video called 'how to be a MTBer' haha.