The fact that Chromag are working on a new line of full suspension bikes isn't exactly a secret, but the appearance of this Darco Ti was a surprise. Details are still scarce, but we do know there's also a steel version of the Darco on the way.
A trunnion mount shock provides a certain amount of travel. I'd imagine somewhere in the 120 - 130mm range. That's paired with a 150mm RockShox Lyrik.
The new Norco Fluid looks great in real life. It has an aluminum frame, 130mm of rear travel, a 140mm fork, and a 65-degree head angle
Norco were also displaying the different frames that were used during the development of the current Range.
Rapid prototyping makes it possible to get an idea of how the frame will come together without needing to commit to a carbon mold.
This Italian-made fork's brand name accurately describes today's weather conditions.
FSA's Gradient Direct Connect stem is 45mm long with a 5-degree rise, and is designed for a 35mm handlebar.
A look at the stem paired with FSA's 40mm rise Gradient bar.
Purple ano will never go out of style.
TRP didn't have anything new to show just yet, but there are drivetrain projects in the works. For now, enjoy looking at this DH-R Evo brake.
Cutaways are cool.
These cross sections show how much space CushCore's various inserts take up in a tire, where they help prevent pinch flats and rim damage.
Fasthouse's apparel lineup is extensive, with all sorts of jersey, shorts, pants, and gloves to choose from.
The Hooper sleeve-style kneepads are CE level 2 certified, and have additional protection below the knee to help deal with flying rocks and other shin-smashers.
Maxxis has added a bike park line of tires that use a DH casing, wire bead, and a new compound that's designed for durability. The DHR II, Assegai, and Minion DHF will be the first models available. MSRP: $80 USD.
The new Forekaster was also on display. You can read the review of this versatile XC / trail tire here.
Rocky Mountain recently released their new line of riding apparel. This is the Legend 90 short, which retails for $155 USD.
The Slab City 70 jersey is made from a lightweight recycled polyester fabric.
Dainese are expanding their kid's line, with helmets, protective jerseys, elbow pads, and gloves aimed at the next generation of shredders.
Dainese's Scarabeo Linea 01 full face helmet is part of the junior line, and retails for $239.95 CAD with MIPS, or $189 CAD without.
Dainese's Rival Pro knee pads have a steel plate situated on the knee to help deal with big impacts, ideally allowing the pads to slide over the ground rather than sticking.
The concept of a steel plate is carried over from Dainese's protective motorcycle apparel.
First full suspension bikes and now clipless pedals? It's a whole new world for Chromag.
And the award for the biggest dog at Crankworx goes to...
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Ok Rocky Mountain $155 for a pair of shorts that you out sourced. Steps for branding your own apparel line 1) Find a private label company ( example Fangyuan out of china ). 2) Have them send you samples or fly out for a meeting . 3) Pick a sample . 4) Place order with your own label $) Mark it up 200% and tell eveyone its because of material costs , R&D.....
Seriously, if that’s not a misprint, who the hell pays $155 for trail shorts?
Maybe I’d spend that much on a pair of three season riding pants, but no way I’m cutting loose that kind of change for shorts unless they come paired with a jersey.
@wyorider: Seriously, it would be cool to see the reviews cite the OEMs, and have coverage on them as well so we better understand the supply chain as it narrows to the source.
How dare you say that some (most ?) brand out there don't do squat aside from outsourcing and distribution ?! But definitely a reality of our industry, anything that is made in Asia is basically that and if outside of the core competency of the brand it is almost guarantied. But some will downvote you as they can't accept that.
Pricing has gone utterly insane in the past years. Not just in mtb. Companies are realising that prices no longer need to bear any relation to manufacturing/supply chain costs, and that suckers will keep buying overpriced tat even if a vocal minority is shouting about the stupidity of it all. What a time to be alive....
@Sethimus: Doing biking kits is Raphàs core compentency and doing a Mtb, Road or Gravel kit is still designing clothing at the end of the day so I have no problem believing that they designed their bike line, same as Norrona or Patagonia or if Salomon deceided to do so, textile design is still the same. Now if any of there decided to release some bikes, protections or helmets lines all manufactured in Asia that'd be fishy as hell, same has RM doing a clothing line.
@Jayx4 Yup. I get my off-brand shorts off Amazon, usually around $30-$40. Totally great, and so far I have a couple pairs that have lasted 3 seasons. And nobody I've ridden with has noticed them one way or the other.
@Chuckolicious: This guy, Well done sir, no whining or whinging, just a couple links to some shorts that are prolly (just for you clownshoes @sonuvagun) excellent. Appreciate you providing the link, hope your purchases last a long time.
@sonuvagun: In what way? Most of their Canadian bike pricing is right in line with other manufacturers here. Rocky has always been a more premium brand, and been a bit more. Maybe the retail costs are more in other countries, but that has less to do with their MSRP, and more to do with distribution, taxes, duties, etc…
@wyorider: Yep...I've pointed this out many times and normally get insulted for my "stupidity". I've been "sampling" different generic name components on one of my bikes for a while..most recently 11spd cassette and a pair of cranks...both are holding up as good or better than what anyone would want to believe...the cassette looks identical to an XT(and comes in an array of groovy colors), and has now lasted longer than the XT( i have a habit of trashing components due to weight and riding style), and costs less than half..the cranks feel stiffer than the SLX they replaced(and...groovy colors). I've got other bits and pieces on the bike that are "no name", and so far all doing well. Fact is...everything eventually breaks...having a big brand on it doesn't always mean it will last longer!
Nothing wrong at all with 70% profit if the quality is there and customers pay for it. Vast majority of clothing across all sectors has always been a much higher profit margin than hard goods. I am 50/50 on that Rapha article. 1. Kudos to them for being open about it and not trying to hide it, plus many truths to that article. 2. Can be a bit of whitewashing or dismissing some of the less savory side of Chinese manufacturing. Pro/Cons for all areas of the planet these days, no exceptions.
Paying that kind of money for biking shorts seems insane to me. I get $15 board shorts and have never had a single problem. Honestly like them better the few pairs of mtb designed shorts I have tried.
@Chuckolicious: Those aren't bad. I've found the value in my moderately expensive POC shorts, but I wear these $18 long sleeve jerseys and swear by them. They make a mesh version too.
@GlassGuy: Yeah they're are definitely areas where you can save a bit. Funn has some other company make the unfinished stem and you can buy that sorta cheap looking stem for like $8 on amazon or you can buy the exact same stem but machine finished for like $55. I had the $8 stem on a previous bike for about 8 months, no problems.
I've been riding TrueWerk shorts of late vs. dedicated MTB shorts. Literally a 3rd of the cost of those Rocky Mountain shorts and a 100 times more useful.
@CycleKrieg: I take it those aren't too baggy? It only takes one time of your shorts catching on your seat when riding technical steeps to realize why they make bike specific shorts. Not $155 shorts, but there's plenty of options around $75
@motts: Nope. They are are work shorts, so they tend to be "slim" in the leg. The Cloud shorts are less baggy than the T1s, but neither are flapping around much. The Cloud shorts also have both a drawstring and belt loops for a good secure waist fit.
All depends on how durable they are, etc. (Also... inflation/fuel costs). I had some older Fox shorts that were similar to these RM, with stitchless heat welds and laser cut perforations, etc... Fancy looking and thin for "comfort". The welds came apart in the dryer eventually and the fabric wore out quicker. I did pay about $90 for some Chrome shorts on sale and they are absolutely bombproof and look "normal". Have had them for three years and counting. Highly recommend Chrome.
@wyorider: because up and down votes don't mean jack...it's just sheeple jumping on the bandwagon of whatever is voted down or up..People see a few upvotes they vote up...People see a few down votes they vote down...that's the society we live in and why people are so easily controlled in mass...
There is a thing when most people are wrong but think they are right...it's called a fallacy.
@sonuvagun: nah, just picking up that you’re full of slightly shitty comments that hold no water. Then instead of backing up shitty statement you go on to attack people. Pretty cool I guess. I’ll just keep dogging every shitty little comment you make in the hopes you go away, or change your tune a bit, prolly take a while, it’s all good.
@nurseben: I did with some Sombrio Pinner shorts. Multiple crashes in and now 7 years oldm they're still holding strong, but I get it and I don't even buy jeans for that much!
@onawalk: Attack people? Like who? Go ahead and name names. Let's see you back up your accusations. ....talk about the pot calling the kettle black....and I'm in your head. But, following someone around on an online forum inficates a bruised ego. Good luck with overcoming that.
@11six: I've bought a couple of the "cheap" stems on amazon...they look really close to a $100 stem...no problems as well! I've recently put a carbon bar on a bike..looks exactly like a Race Face Next bar, without the logos. I've done a "two chairs and sit in the middle of the bar" test.... the "place bar over cinder block and do hard push ups" test..now it's on a real bike and I'll slowly get more aggressive on it. I'm leaning more and more that the "generic" brands are the same product without the expensive name
@11six: No, not specifically. I bought it a while ago out of curiosity. I gave it the sit test to see if it would snap then put it aside until recently when the bars on one of my bikes seems it may be a bit too stiff, so...figured I'd give this carbon bar a trial. I'm sure if you type "carbon mtb bars" on amazon you'll get a lot of choices
FSA - well done. Please move forward with 35mm clamp model
Bright - please go back to the boardroom and rethink that mudguard.
Rocky - Please add more holes to shorts to guarantee my pedal pins will snag my shorts while unloading my bike.
Doggo - good dog, obviously.
Might be one of the coolest looking stems I’ve seen in a while. I feel like it won’t age well, but right now, I’m hoping they make a standard stem to go along with it
@onawalk: If I counted correctly, there are only six bolts to deal with in that scenario. Better Bolts Ti hardware would match the oil slick nicely too…
Chromag Darco. 120mm, with larger fork around 150mm is what I was told. That thing looks fantastic. Supposedly it will come in titanium and steel. Freaking sign me up!
@dancingwithmyself: 7000 series aluminum construction would probably save a pound or two from the steel frame version. And be really close to the titanium frame weight. The bike looks sick though.
@husstler: okay, you got me. But aside from the kids bike, I think we can acknowledge alloy is not Chromag's bag. Never have I ridden a Chromag and thought to myself, I wish this was alloy.
I think they are staying true to their brand and their existing customers on this one.
@barp: I think those in discussion knows this is a steel versus aluminum discussion. Definitely bike industry colloquialism. I didn't feel the need to be a pedant, but by all means fill your boots, as you are certainly correct.
@privateer-wheels: So you’re pointing out chromag is staying true to the brand by going steel as they are are deviating from their brand and going full suspension? You’re losing me.
@speed10: Chromag have been prototyping full suspension bikes for ages as far as I know, aside from the Minor Threat. I think a full suspension bike has been written in the wall for a little while now.
Certainly feels on brand to me. They have stuck with a tubeset that's the same material, and somewhat visually consistent with their hardtails.
I'm simply pointing out my opinion. How I feel about the bike, as an existing Chromag customer. I 'get' the bike. It feels on brand to me. I like it.
Hard to believe I am losing you when I'm not trying to lead you anywhere! It's up to you to connect the dots for yourself my friend.
@privateer-wheels: Agreed, it looks like a Chromag and they have stayed true to their roots. I would be disappointed if (at least the front triangle) was anything but steel. Ti gets a pass as it's rich man's steel.
And remember that on Pinkbike common sense never wins
@barp: actually the rest of the world refers to is as "aluminium alloy". Only in America is there a metal that exists as a product that doesn't exist as a metal #periodictable
@adrennan: cool right, Remember when we rode to town in a horse and cart, remember when we used candles to light our homes, Just giving you a bit of a jab. RS has just positioned the Pike to be more of a trail fork, helping to put things into neat little categories to make the consumer feel confident in their purchases. You can still race a Pike in enduro if you’d like, he’ll you race a Spur with a SID if you’d like. Local fast guy raced a fairly spicy enduro on his Pivot 429, was running a Pike. Think he came 3rd in Elite….Dude is fast
@adrennan: Here’s my take on it, With the push for new riders (the only real way for decent growth in the industry) trail centres have started to build tones of flow blue trails (too many in my opinion). New and inexperienced riders, put undue stress on frames, and in particular suspension forks. This has lead to a tonne of creaky CSU complaints, that creaking comes from repeated fatigue similar to hitting every god damn braking bump in high speed berms. In an effort to curb the excessive complaints, the easy solution is to overbuild (larger statnchions, bushing overlap, beefed up lowers) Some pros can get away with riding less fork typically, as they know where to position themselves and their bike, even though their speeds are higher, and they generate more force.
So in an attempt t curb nuisance issues, the manufacturers develop better products, then over time, stirip them down to the minimum cost vs. performance basis.
@fartymarty The industry ain’t out to get us, I’m not sure why that sentiment exists…….boredom maybe? Conspiracy theorists?
@adrennan: oh man, Everything is beefed up! The Fox 38 is ovalized inside, meaning more material front and back, so you can have a tighter interference fit, which should make for a stronger joint.
Flexing stanchions store a bit of energy, that then has to be released in the opposite direction. Think of it as a vibration, what do constant vibrations do, loosen interference joints (threaded ones too) So you have two slightly reverberating stanchions acting on a single head tube joint, under massive force from the weight of the rider, bike, and momentum.
I’m not saying its the only reason, but it is a significant contributing factor. Speeds while mountain biking have increased dramatically over the years, both as trail centre become more popular, the sport gets ore popular, and equipment gets better. There’s always a weak link, and a telescopic fork with 34-35mm stanchions at umpteeth mm’s is likely going to be it. Beef it up, it no longer becomes the weak link, Rinse and Repeat
@WalrusRider: But presumably way less expensive than the titanium. Would it be stiffer as well? Honestly don't know. I've just always thought people on titanium FS frames were engaged in conspicuous consumption to some degree, but I could certainly be wrong. There could be performance benefits. Thus my question.
@privateer-wheels: exactly. everybody knows what everybody is talking about. it's like when i say it's ten till eight and my seven-year-old corrects me that is actually 7:47.
@dancingwithmyself: Apologies, it was not my intent to make you feel like I am giving you a hard time! You can comment however you want.
I guess my mind just goes to "it's a Chromag, of course it would be steel or titanium". I would have been surprised to see anything else. The merits of the choice, I am sure some will tell you titanium and steel have a superior ride feel/superior rice characteristics. It could also be just to appeal to a different niche of people?
@privateer-wheels: no worries! And to be clear I love chromag. No ties to pacific NW, but have chromag pedals and grips on all my bikes, a set of WAO wheels, plenty of OneUp products, and a Banshee Titan. Much prefer to give smaller, rider-owned companies my money, especially when they make superior products.
Agree there will be a certain element of nostalgia or lifestyle brand thinking with steel and titanium FS.
Totally speculating based on that fork and shock, but I wonder if the performance argument for steel or titanium is that there is enough mismatch between front and rear travels that there is still a bit of a hardtail element to the bike?
Chromag has their reasons and we’ll find out more with a launch and reviews, but still fun to speculate.
@dancingwithmyself: I was thinking similarly. That it was kind of suiting that they opened up with a full suspension with a bigger fork, and just enough rear suspension to take the edge of bigger hits.
@fartymarty: what’s the diminishing return here? This seems like the best possible solution to the problem. Create a fork to suit a mtb category, limit the travel, for the shorter ones, so you’re not needlessly warranting Pikes that we’re running at 160, cause an air spring was much cheaper than a new fork for your enduro rig. Market said forks to the corresponding bike categories, and optimize them to work within those categories.
It looks to me, and admittedly I’m a bit of an optimist with this, that RS, and Fox are going to great lengths to separate, and category math]ch their products to what frame manufacturers are doing. If I’m honest, I like it. It gives me a real quick reference when looking at a bike to see what the manufacturers have decided on for use case.
@onawalk: I wasn't specifically referring to Pike v Lyrik* but more the bike industry generally. The last 10 years have been great for bike development but things are in a good place now and short of something revolutionary (like the Supre Drive or some other gearbox) I can't see how things can get massively better.
* Pike / Lyrik / Zeb - I get the Pike and Zeb (to a degree - altho if I was racing enduro I would run a cut down Boxxer or Ö38DC or 40) - the Lyrik is sandwiched in the middle as an "aggressive trail" fork but why wouldn't you go straight to a Zeb?
@fartymarty: I think similar comments were being made 10 years ago, unless you’re the one innovating, and moving things forward, we have no real idea of what’s coming. The “on trail” feel between Grip, and Grip 2 is pretty wide, and those changes aren’t that old.
Moto suspension is still years ahead of our little niche I think my comments hold true with either Fox, Rs, or any company really. I guess we are all different, and it’s hard to see and understand what others see as valuable (I look to the opinions on bike racks as a good example) I think a Zeb is a great enduro fork, and don’t see the need to go to a DC (added weight, and less maneuverable on tight switch backs) and for any trail use, a Lyrik would be my go to. My lighter weight buddy, he’s good on the Pike and Lyrik, thankfully there’s different products for us, which is great.
Seriously. I've even gotten them at the local (non-bike park adjacent) bike shop for about $40. $80 for a cheaper to produce tire Maxxis? It's a no from me dawg, and probably the same for a lot of other people.
@mr-smashy: I don't know anybody who will "happily" pay $80 for Maxxis. I also don't know anybody who pays list for Maxxis tires. I love Maxxis tires and have a bunch of them, never once paid $80. Shop hard.
@Marquis: I know of a couple that will, they day after something new was announced they come and want to order it and didn't care how much it was. I couldn't justify 80 per tire, I get stuff that has been sitting for awhile.
@greenblur: eh, depends on the bike park and personal taste. I prefer MM in wetter/looser bike parks (like Sugarbush or Bolton VT) but Assegai/DHR2 in drier hardpack parks (like Angel Fire in NM or many Colorado parks)
You can also get Schwalbe Big Betty and Michelin DH34 in the wire bead, hard compound, chonky casing bike park version. €25 for the schwalbes, DH34 for around €30. Literally the same tire than a DHR for half the price.
@greenblur: you can also get the Michelin DH in Bikepark version and they make a great cheap rear tire for the Bp season.
What patents are you talking about ? Nothing in a Maxxis tire is revolutionnary and not already used by others too, aside from the thread but many copycats of all their most popular thread patterns already exist and perform very similarly.
@mcozzy: here is your review: they work just fine, have decent protection, have enough grip for the rear except maybe for the wettest conditions (which would only matter if in a racing scenario), little bit heavy so I wouldn't consider it if you plan to pedal with that tire. Similar can be said about the DH34 BP except it has a lighter construction so it pedals surprisingly alright for such tire, wear is worse than the MM BP but I'd rate the grip as better also.
@Balgaroth: I second this, for a while I ran dual MM's in the bike park, with an ultrasoft front tire and a bikepark rear. My only real issue was trying to run it tubeless, you can get it to work but it's not really meant for that. Otherwise, the front-biased traction was very fun but never scary or anything, they grip well enough and last quite long
@Balgaroth: The exact tread pattern of DHF and DHR. Especially the cornering knobs. Many have tried to copy but probably need to be just different enough to avoid a lawsuit.
I've tried most of the copies; they're not as good.
Just a guess but Maxxis' compounds are probably not patented so they can keep it a trade secret.
I thought at first NZD$80, yeah not bad but then remembered it's USD$80, yeah nan.
Also. They already make the same standard DH casing wire bead version in 2 different compounds. I guess putting "Bike Park" on the sidewalls means you can charge practically double the price.
The donkey is our boy MAKALU Great Dane. Ironically one of his nicknames is ‘donkey’ like from Shrek He liked chilling on the carpet at the Norco booth out of the sun.
I was fortunate enough to pedal that Ti Darco around Chromag's parking lot when I visited a few weeks ago. It feels super modern on geo and I think its gonna be a total rocket on the way up, and likely sporty on the way down.
The Rocky Mountain shorts look so long they should have to list the inseam length. How about showing them on someone short?
IF they offered an affordable pair of shorts I wouldn't care that these are $155. But since this is their only offering...these represent 11% of their most affordable trail bike and 17% of their most affordable "Adventure" bike.
Those Dianese pads with a steel skid plate, does anyone have experience with these? I do like something to slide on on my pads so this has always kept me from trying these soft pads and the ones with a such an open plastic mesh pattern. Shooting some sparks when you crash may look cool on Fridays but I'd be worried once the plate permanently deforms and the free (and possibly burred) edge of my knee pad starts cutting my arm in a crash. The shell of my iXS Dagger pads is battered too, but at least the plastic (nylon?) is too soft and flexible to do much damage and still slides well.
no problem with deformation or burrs, the protective pads does a more than adequate job of protection on top of the stainless plate plus you can remove the stainless plate and replace it, just like the MOTO GP racers
@sirbikealot: Good to know. I hate to get injured by my protective gear. I once got a swollen knee because on of the rivets holding the kneepad shell to the foam hit my knee in a crash. Ever since I've been a bit wary of metal in my padding. Yes I'd make for a pretty useless knight if I were born a thousand years ago .
I am a Dainese rep so hopefully, I can help with your questions.
First off, Dainese has some of the most extensive experience in both mountain bike and moto protection in the world. We invest substantially more than many of our competitors in R&D, thanks to the support of our large moto division. We were the first global producer of mountain bike protection back in 1993, and had the bulk of the world cup racers wearing our product for many years.
The plate in the Rival Pro knee pad is designed to take impacts far greater than you would possibly be able to deform it, thanks to its shape and thickness.
These Rival Pro pads were designed with input and testing from some of the top DH racers in the world, including the Canyon factory DH team, Fabien Barel, etc. The reason for the plate is twofold, to keep the overall pad thickness as low as possible to fit easily under any DH pants without constricting the movent of the rider. Second, to allow the rider to slide on impact, instead of sticking and transferring impacts into twisting or rolling injuries. Our testing of D3O and other similar products revealed poor sliding performance which isn't ideal. Dainese has extensive R&D on impact and injury mitigation, we understand the importance of sliding on impact to prevent and mitigate injuries. In addition, D3O is very thick and not breathable. Our plate is surrounded by much thinner and breathable Pro armor 2.0 mesh padding. Which Dainese has developed in-house with our own technology.
@shorerider54: Thanks a lot for response. Sliding is important for my pads because I also use them for skate, BMX etc hence I've always shied from these softer pads or those with just such a lattice pattern (as you have under that steel plate). I have always been happy with having just a little less ventilation if my pads protect well and slide well. For that, the iXS Dagger pads were fine though indeed, ventilation isn't quite there. I am well aware of your history in mountainbiking and will keep those new Dianese pads in my shortlist once it is time to replace my current pads!
Can someone please explain to this particular PinkBike Illiterati why you'd choose a wire bead DH tire? Are the bike park versions for rental fleets? I'd think that giving up the ability to run tubeless (lower pressure, more grip, etc.) and giving up the ability to run inserts would make this a poor choice for most riders. Then again, I ride a hardtail with cushcore and haven't run Maxxis since I broke my full suspension. For $70 a pair like the Schwalbe BP versions, I could see it... maybe... But for $80 and having to run tubes, I feel like I'm missing something.
Maxxis have had the Maxxpro 60a compound DH wire bead in DHF forever.
Fast rolling and no squirm on fast hardpack. My go to rear for years for trail or DH and CHEAP AS!!!
Sounds like the same tyre with new name to pump the margin up.
Bitd waawhen people would buy Rocky M frames for the wicked paint jobs like Intense - NOW it is cause they have burning wallets which require new $155 shorts each time they are put on.
Oh and the thing shirley is a pop belly Vietnamese pig!
you can choose 2 models one with velcro and one without. both have tacky wide rubber backings, i've ridden them for hours without slippage and the new velcro is super wide and thick versus the older thin ones
It is totally unnoticeable in terms of geo. At least not in a negative way. The fork is solid and way fast. I was keeping up with and passing people on full DH bikes. That fork just eats the stutter and braking bumps like nothing else.
its built into the helmet and is made of a very lightweight polycarbonate, the whole helmet is 600gr making it one of the lightest full faces on the market for kids, plenty of ventilation and has multi impact EPP foam for the chin guard area
Cats are super agile, light on their feet and move accurately and quietly - see Vergier, Suarez, Greenland etc.
Dogs are rough and ready and happy to plow through the woods kicking up dust and stones - see Gwin, Peaty, Bulldog etc.
Dear Chromag, please consider moving that seat tube forward a couple inches “knolly style” and get rid of the bent seat tube also… and please make the swingarm out of ti also!
Maybe I’d spend that much on a pair of three season riding pants, but no way I’m cutting loose that kind of change for shorts unless they come paired with a jersey.
Rocky Mountain, they certainly are rocky ….
Funny how sometimes a person points that out and gets all the upvotes. Sometimes it’s all thumbs down.
www.pinkbike.com/news/field-test-2020-rocky-mountain-slayer-carbon-90.html
I struggle to believe that Rapha aren't making a 70%+ profit on their soft goods like everyone else.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089Y6B7QK
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T1GP6QT (actually better quality zippers than the first one)
Enjoy!
Well done sir, no whining or whinging, just a couple links to some shorts that are prolly (just for you clownshoes @sonuvagun) excellent.
Appreciate you providing the link, hope your purchases last a long time.
Most of their Canadian bike pricing is right in line with other manufacturers here. Rocky has always been a more premium brand, and been a bit more.
Maybe the retail costs are more in other countries, but that has less to do with their MSRP, and more to do with distribution, taxes, duties, etc…
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LWHUQ90/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2ROZC5KOIO6QV&th=1&psc=1
There is a thing when most people are wrong but think they are right...it's called a fallacy.
Then instead of backing up shitty statement you go on to attack people. Pretty cool I guess.
I’ll just keep dogging every shitty little comment you make in the hopes you go away, or change your tune a bit, prolly take a while, it’s all good.
....talk about the pot calling the kettle black....and I'm in your head. But, following someone around on an online forum inficates a bruised ego. Good luck with overcoming that.
Nonetheless, voted up.
I've recently put a carbon bar on a bike..looks exactly like a Race Face Next bar, without the logos. I've done a "two chairs and sit in the middle of the bar" test.... the "place bar over cinder block and do hard push ups" test..now it's on a real bike and I'll slowly get more aggressive on it. I'm leaning more and more that the "generic" brands are the same product without the expensive name
I feel like it won’t age well, but right now, I’m hoping they make a standard stem to go along with it
Crap, now I want one lol
My vote is for polished, or hell do all the colours and mix and match
I’ll check it out
I mean , you might as well make a standard one……
Best alloy bikes out there IMO. Broke every other frame I've owned besides my Banshees.
I think they are staying true to their brand and their existing customers on this one.
Certainly feels on brand to me. They have stuck with a tubeset that's the same material, and somewhat visually consistent with their hardtails.
I'm simply pointing out my opinion. How I feel about the bike, as an existing Chromag customer. I 'get' the bike. It feels on brand to me. I like it.
Hard to believe I am losing you when I'm not trying to lead you anywhere! It's up to you to connect the dots for yourself my friend.
Make it a double. Ti one looks incred!
And remember that on Pinkbike common sense never wins
Remember when we rode to town in a horse and cart, remember when we used candles to light our homes,
Just giving you a bit of a jab.
RS has just positioned the Pike to be more of a trail fork, helping to put things into neat little categories to make the consumer feel confident in their purchases.
You can still race a Pike in enduro if you’d like, he’ll you race a Spur with a SID if you’d like.
Local fast guy raced a fairly spicy enduro on his Pivot 429, was running a Pike. Think he came 3rd in Elite….Dude is fast
I appreciate you sir, up votes for the hashtag
@onawalk Our local fast guy finished 2nd at Snowshoe (and also rides a Pivot)...
When the argument moves from semantics to regional spelling, I'm out. Conditions are unfavo[u]rable for productive discussion.
With the push for new riders (the only real way for decent growth in the industry) trail centres have started to build tones of flow blue trails (too many in my opinion). New and inexperienced riders, put undue stress on frames, and in particular suspension forks.
This has lead to a tonne of creaky CSU complaints, that creaking comes from repeated fatigue similar to hitting every god damn braking bump in high speed berms.
In an effort to curb the excessive complaints, the easy solution is to overbuild (larger statnchions, bushing overlap, beefed up lowers)
Some pros can get away with riding less fork typically, as they know where to position themselves and their bike, even though their speeds are higher, and they generate more force.
So in an attempt t curb nuisance issues, the manufacturers develop better products, then over time, stirip them down to the minimum cost vs. performance basis.
@fartymarty The industry ain’t out to get us, I’m not sure why that sentiment exists…….boredom maybe? Conspiracy theorists?
Everything is beefed up!
The Fox 38 is ovalized inside, meaning more material front and back, so you can have a tighter interference fit, which should make for a stronger joint.
Flexing stanchions store a bit of energy, that then has to be released in the opposite direction. Think of it as a vibration, what do constant vibrations do, loosen interference joints (threaded ones too) So you have two slightly reverberating stanchions acting on a single head tube joint, under massive force from the weight of the rider, bike, and momentum.
I’m not saying its the only reason, but it is a significant contributing factor.
Speeds while mountain biking have increased dramatically over the years, both as trail centre become more popular, the sport gets ore popular, and equipment gets better. There’s always a weak link, and a telescopic fork with 34-35mm stanchions at umpteeth mm’s is likely going to be it.
Beef it up, it no longer becomes the weak link, Rinse and Repeat
I wasn't saying I expected it to be alloy or that it would be on brand. I was asking why we should prefer titanium or steel for a FS bike.
Should have realized this was going to be like the release of the WAO bike: nothing but effusive, positive comments allowed.
I guess my mind just goes to "it's a Chromag, of course it would be steel or titanium". I would have been surprised to see anything else. The merits of the choice, I am sure some will tell you titanium and steel have a superior ride feel/superior rice characteristics. It could also be just to appeal to a different niche of people?
Agree there will be a certain element of nostalgia or lifestyle brand thinking with steel and titanium FS.
Totally speculating based on that fork and shock, but I wonder if the performance argument for steel or titanium is that there is enough mismatch between front and rear travels that there is still a bit of a hardtail element to the bike?
Chromag has their reasons and we’ll find out more with a launch and reviews, but still fun to speculate.
This seems like the best possible solution to the problem.
Create a fork to suit a mtb category, limit the travel, for the shorter ones, so you’re not needlessly warranting Pikes that we’re running at 160, cause an air spring was much cheaper than a new fork for your enduro rig.
Market said forks to the corresponding bike categories, and optimize them to work within those categories.
It looks to me, and admittedly I’m a bit of an optimist with this, that RS, and Fox are going to great lengths to separate, and category math]ch their products to what frame manufacturers are doing.
If I’m honest, I like it. It gives me a real quick reference when looking at a bike to see what the manufacturers have decided on for use case.
* Pike / Lyrik / Zeb - I get the Pike and Zeb (to a degree - altho if I was racing enduro I would run a cut down Boxxer or Ö38DC or 40) - the Lyrik is sandwiched in the middle as an "aggressive trail" fork but why wouldn't you go straight to a Zeb?
Moto suspension is still years ahead of our little niche
I think my comments hold true with either Fox, Rs, or any company really.
I guess we are all different, and it’s hard to see and understand what others see as valuable (I look to the opinions on bike racks as a good example) I think a Zeb is a great enduro fork, and don’t see the need to go to a DC (added weight, and less maneuverable on tight switch backs) and for any trail use, a Lyrik would be my go to.
My lighter weight buddy, he’s good on the Pike and Lyrik, thankfully there’s different products for us, which is great.
Price: 24.60€ each.
Here is the same link for the American website if anyone is interested
www.deporvillage.net/schwalbe-magic-mary-bikepark-tyre-black
Maxxis patents have to be running out soon (at least in US). Can't wait for the copies to flood the market.
What patents are you talking about ? Nothing in a Maxxis tire is revolutionnary and not already used by others too, aside from the thread but many copycats of all their most popular thread patterns already exist and perform very similarly.
www.merlincycles.com/schwalbe-magic-mary-addix-bike-park-wired-tyre-275-113271.html
Its been sat in the shed for a few years. Very few if any reviews of how much grip they actually have.
Its my next tyre in line to fit to the rear, so I guess I'll find out soon enough.
I've tried most of the copies; they're not as good.
Just a guess but Maxxis' compounds are probably not patented so they can keep it a trade secret.
Also. They already make the same standard DH casing wire bead version in 2 different compounds. I guess putting "Bike Park" on the sidewalls means you can charge practically double the price.
He liked chilling on the carpet at the Norco booth out of the sun.
Pike would be a nice fit though. A nice 2022 silver one.
“Look at all the effort we’ve put into making the most beautiful stem in them world.”
“How do we make it better for photos?”
“Let’s use a utterly gopping bar”
“hell yeah!!”
IF they offered an affordable pair of shorts I wouldn't care that these are $155. But since this is their only offering...these represent 11% of their most affordable trail bike and 17% of their most affordable "Adventure" bike.
plus you can remove the stainless plate and replace it, just like the MOTO GP racers
First off, Dainese has some of the most extensive experience in both mountain bike and moto protection in the world. We invest substantially more than many of our competitors in R&D, thanks to the support of our large moto division. We were the first global producer of mountain bike protection back in 1993, and had the bulk of the world cup racers wearing our product for many years.
The plate in the Rival Pro knee pad is designed to take impacts far greater than you would possibly be able to deform it, thanks to its shape and thickness.
These Rival Pro pads were designed with input and testing from some of the top DH racers in the world, including the Canyon factory DH team, Fabien Barel, etc. The reason for the plate is twofold, to keep the overall pad thickness as low as possible to fit easily under any DH pants without constricting the movent of the rider. Second, to allow the rider to slide on impact, instead of sticking and transferring impacts into twisting or rolling injuries. Our testing of D3O and other similar products revealed poor sliding performance which isn't ideal. Dainese has extensive R&D on impact and injury mitigation, we understand the importance of sliding on impact to prevent and mitigate injuries. In addition, D3O is very thick and not breathable. Our plate is surrounded by much thinner and breathable Pro armor 2.0 mesh padding. Which Dainese has developed in-house with our own technology.
Happy to help with any other questions!
Oh and the thing shirley is a pop belly Vietnamese pig!
Standard version coming for enduro Bikes?
WANT!!
Will you do one in the Helix shape?
Very unique and totally cool!
A break from the norm.
Awesome!
I’ll keep my peepers open!
Keep me and the rest of the world updated please!
Stoked
Just bought 2 on special for 35aud each, in 27.5. Im in Australia but.
Nothing against good dogs;
Purr more, bark less.
Fox orange-bad bad bad..just as the lime green era was soooooo played out(group think).
How much?
GT fold down pegs on that Norco?