It's no secret that Race Face's initial foray into the dropper post world didn't go exactly as planned. The original Turbine dropper could be temperamental at times, and its higher-than-average price kept it out of the running as a viable option for many riders. The solution? Take the proven Fox Transfer post (Fox Factory Holding Corp. is the parent company of Race Face), switch the logos, bump up the return speed a little bit, swap out the remote lever, and voila, you have the new Turbine R dropper post.
The Turbine R is available with either 100, 125, or 150 millimeters of drop, and in either a 31.6 or 30.9-millimeter diameter. There are also two lever options – the shifter style 1x remote that's reviewed here, or a vertically-oriented
universal lever, which is the way to go if you're still rocking a front shifter. The dropper alone is priced at $295 USD, with the 1x lever coming in at $70, and the universal lever at $50.
Turbine R Dropper Details• Cable actuated, hydraulic cartridge
• Infinite adjustments within travel range
• Travel options: 150mm, 125mm, 100mm
• Length: 456mm, 406mm, 356mm
• Seatpost diameter: 31.6mm, 30.9mm
• Weight: 587 grams (31.6 x 150mm w/o lever)
• MSRP: $365 USD w/ 1x remote
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www.raceface.com,
@raceface Installation of the Turbine R is very simple, thanks in part to the cable actuated design.
Installation / Details Thanks to the Turbine R's cable actuated design, and the fact that the cable is attached at the lever, installation of the post is extremely easy. It's simply a matter of figuring out the right housing length, slotting the cable into the post, running it through the housing, and then attaching it to the lever. It's a walk in the park compared to what it took to install the original Turbine post.
The Turbine R uses a sealed cartridge hydraulic cartridge containing an internal floating piston that's charged with nitrogen to 400 psi, which means you shouldn't go trying to disassemble this thing without knowing exactly what you're doing. The oil flow inside the post is controlled by a spring-backed spool valve, which is said to reduce the force needed to activate the post, in turn creating a lighter feel at the lever. Race Face says that spool valve was altered slightly in order to create a faster return speed for the Turbine R compared to that of the 2017 Fox Transfer post. For 2018, the Race Face Turbine R and Fox Transfer post both have the updated spool valve.
All of the steps required to service the post are clearly laid out on Fox's website, but the number of specific tools required means that it's a job best left to a bike shop rather than trying to tackle it with a multi-tool and a crescent wrench in a dimly lit basement. Want to go a little deeper into what exactly is going on inside the post? You can read Mike Levy's review of the Fox Transfer post
here.
PerformanceThe Turbine R has been absolutely trouble-free for the last three months of usage, which didn't exactly come as a surprise since I've had very good luck with the Transfer post over the last couple of years. Other than one small cable tension tweak I haven't had to adjust anything on the Turbine R at all – it's been a smooth operator, even after plenty of mud baths.
I never had any issues with the return speed of the original Transfer post, and I honestly didn't notice a difference between the Turbine R vs. the Transfer when comparing their return speeds back to back. They both reach full extension in less than half a second when the remote is fully depressed, topping out with a distinct 'thwunk'. The post feels solid no matter whether is fully raised, fully lowered, or somewhere in between – there's not even a hint of unwanted vertical play.
Since the return speeds are nearly identical it's really just the lever that differentiates the two posts. Race Face's Matchmaker-compatible lever rotates on ball bearings, is closer in shape to a shifter, and has machined grooves that provide plenty of traction for your thumb, even if it's pouring rain. It also clamps the cable more cleanly than the Tranfer lever - the cable is less likely to get kinked and frayed with this design.
Fox's lever is much more compact, with a smaller paddle that feels like it requires less effort to push compared to Race Face's. There are dimples instead of grooves on the lever, but I've never had any issues with thumb slippage. It's also not Matchmaker-compatible, but the clamp itself doesn't really take up that much room.
Which one is better? It's a matter of personal preference more than anything, but if I had to choose, I'd go with Fox's design. I like the light action, and even though the paddle is smaller it feels more comfortable under my thumb.
Pinkbike's Take | Race Face was smart to take advantage of Fox's proven Transfer Post and put their own spin on it. The design of the Transfer Post is one of the best around, and now the Turbine R allows Race Face fans to take advantage of that post's easy installation and smooth operation. The only thing missing is a longer travel option, especially now that steep seat angles and stubby seat tubes are becoming more common, but hopefully there's something in the works.
Trying to decide between Race Face's Turbine R and the Fox Transfer? It all comes down to the remote lever design – other than that detail the two posts deliver the same outstanding performance. — Mike Kazimer |
142 Comments
Forgetting price, it's the best all round dropper I've used. Then you remember it costs £140 for the XL version, why would you choose anything else?
if the oneup one lasts half as long, i would be pretty satisfied with it
Massively variable quality control I guess, and the replacement cartridge is next to impossible to source here in the UK.
The only post that hasn't given me any grief has been a (Marzocchi) Transfer, but I have not owned it long enough to really say much.
Use antiseize on every mating surface on the seatclamp assembly. Literally every surface that mates against another there there could be a little movement. That will usually fix the creak.
The play you just deal with. Mine literally rattles when I'm not sat.
Then there are the many complainslts about creaking. My first was bad for this, and slipped. My newer one just slips.
The clamps are (or were) very poorly designed and manufactured. For some time they were admitting this in fact, and had planned to release a new design - or at least that's what they said last time I spoke to them. No idea where they are with this, as I couldn't care to continue riding mine once it craps out. I loosen up my bolts evey couple weeks and reposition my seat, and retorque to spec. It is a pain in the ass.
Mine is developing a pretty good rattle most recently, almost right after being serviced for developing sag come to think of it! Fantastic post
Soon time for a change for me. Won't be a lev.
sounds swell though
It's Race Face that screwed up, not the company they licensed from. Sorry, I like their stems, bars and cranks, but I will not buy anything a little more sophisticated than that from them for the foreseable future.
Still only 150mm available?
In short, Mike didn't do a great job indicating if the RF option is available without the lever. Also, promoting the idea of choosing one of two levers with either product is not okay. A large majority of the droppers we sell have off-brand/aftermarket levers (Wolf Tooth).
Both are a mile better than any of the 6 Reverbs (4 warranty) that I've had.
www.bike-components.de/en/Marzocchi/Transfer-Intern-Performance-Elite-125-mm-Sattelstuetze-Modell-2017-p61669
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