Review: YT Tues CF Comp

Sep 22, 2015 at 16:57
by Mike Kazimer  



YT Industries' Tues CF follows in the footsteps of the popular aluminum-framed model that Andreu Lacondeguy piloted to a win at last year's Red Bull Rampage, but the updated version gains a carbon fiber frame, 27.5” wheels, and now has 208mm of rear travel, up from the previous model's 200mm of squish.

YT has been making waves thanks to their direct-to-consumer sales model that allows them to offer complete bikes priced well below the competition, and the Tues is no exception. $4295 USD is enough to purchase the Comp version reviewed here, which comes well specc'd with a RockShox BoXXer Team RC fork, Vivid R2C shock, SRAM Guide brakes, and a DT Swiss wheelset shod with a 2.4” Maxxis HighRoller II tires. There's also a higher end option, the CF Pro, available for those willing to shell out $500 additional dollars. The CF Pro is equipped with air-sprung BOS Supension and SRAM's 7 speed X01 DH drivetrain.
YT CF Comp Details

• Intended use: downhill
• Wheel size: 27.5''
• Rear wheel travel: 208mm
• 63.5° head angle
• V4L suspension design
• Carbon fiber front triangle and seatstays, aluminum chainstays
• 1.5" head tube
• PF30 bottom bracket
• 12 x 150mm rear spacing
• Sizes: S, M, L
• Colors: green/black, white/black
• Weight: 37.7lb / 17.1kg (large, actual, w/o pedals)
• MSRP: $4295 USD



YT CF Comp Review
Ready to rumble.
YT CF Comp Review
YT uses carbon fiber for the Tues CF's front triangle and seatstays, and aluminum for the chainstays.

Frame Details

From afar, the Tues CF shares slightly similar lines to the Capra, its enduro-oriented relative, but this is a longer and lower version of that popular ride, with the position of the shock and swingarm designed to keep the bike's center of gravity as low as possible in order to maintain stability at blistering speeds. Of course, the Tues also has much more travel than the Capra – 208mm to be exact, and geometry meant for going downhill. Fast.

Both the front triangle and seat stays are made from carbon fiber, but aluminum is used for the chainstays to help them hold up to the thrashing that comes with downhill and bike park riding. According to YT, the use of carbon fiber allowed them to shed 1kg (2.2 pounds) over the aluminum version, a very substantial weight savings, although at 37.7 pounds for a size large this isn't the lightest DH bike out there. To help keep the carbon frame free from harm a plastic guard extends along part of the down tube and over the outside of the bottom bracket shell.

There's no internal cable routing on the Tues, save for the section of the seat stay where the derailleur housing briefly disappears from view, but that's nothing to complain about – external routing means easier maintenance, and the routing on this downhill machine is well executed. A PF30 bottom bracket is housed in the 83mm shell, which is matched up to a 12x150 rear end.


YT CF Comp Review
YT's Virtual 4 Link (V4L) suspension design handles the bike's 208mm of rear travel.

Suspension Layout

YT's Virtual Four Link (V4L) suspension design, their take on a Horst Link configuration, is used for the Tues CF's 208mm of travel. That travel comes courtesy of a massive 10.5” x 3.5” shock, giving the bike a very low 2.3:1 leverage ratio. A leverage rate that low allows for spring rates to be 300lb or below for most riders. The shock itself, in this case a RockShox Vivid R2C, is mounted to the carbon seatstays, which are in turn connected to an aluminum link. The suspension is designed to be very progressive towards the end of its stroke, keeping the bike from blowing through its travel too quickly.


Geometry

YT Tues Geo







Set Up

During the set up of the Tues I ended up swapping out the spring in the BoXXer Team fork and the one on the Vivid shock in order to have the bike properly configured for my weight. This is a step that I typically need to take, since I'm on the lighter side of things for my height, but riders who weigh less than 150 pounds may find it difficult to find a spring that's soft enough for them to achieve the correct amount of sag. This is due to the longer spring that the Tues requires; there aren't many options below the 200 lb spring rate I settled on.


Handling

It took a few laps to get accustomed to the Tues CF's length – the size large has roughly the same reach number as an XL Santa Cruz V10, and measures 10mm longer than a large Specialized Demo – but it wasn't long before I felt right at home. It's like moving into a house after spending time residing in a tiny studio apartment – at first the extra space seems foreign, but then you start to wonder how you lived in such cramped quarters for so long.

The longer measurements do mean that a little extra effort is required for getting around tight turns, and slower speeds aren't really the Tues' strong suit, but that's not what this bike is meant for. It's happiest rocketing along in a straight line, charging headlong into minefields of rocks and root, not puttering along smooth, mellow trails. There's an immense amount of stability on hand, and I found myself letting off the brakes in places I usually wouldn't simply because the bike felt unflappable no matter the speed.

YT Tues CF Comp Review. Photo Laurence Crossman-Emms

bigquotes There's an immense amount of stability on hand, and I found myself letting off the brakes in places I usually wouldn't simply because the bike felt unflappable no matter the speed.

Although the Tues has 208mm of travel, I'd place it on the sportier side of things regarding the suspension feel. It never felt harsh, but it doesn't feel like you're rolling down the trail on marshmallows either. Both the BoXXer Team fork and the Vivid shock had a good deal of ramp up towards the end of their strokes, which meant that it was extremely rare to use up all of the travel, even during hard G-outs. Compared to the Santa Cruz V10, the Tues remains higher in its travel during large impacts, and transmits a little more trail feedback to the rider. That characteristic helps the Tues maintain its momentum by allowing it to stay on top of wheel-sucking holes, rather than getting pulled into them and suffering the associated loss of speed.

It may be long and low, but put a jump in front of the Tues and it'll blast off to the moon without any trouble. That end-stroke progressiveness gives it a great deal of pop, allowing it to get airborne with much less effort than I'd expected, at least at higher speeds. At slower speeds the Tues does lose some pep, and the combination of its weight and length make it feel like it'd rather stay on the ground and smash through things instead of bounding around like a kangaroo. The Tues isn't going to satisfy riders who prefer their DH rigs to be spry and nimble, but for those who prefer to lean back, let off the brakes, and hang on for the ride, the Tues doesn't disappoint.

YT CF Comp Review
The Sensus Disdaboss grips provide a comfy perch for those long days in the park.
YT CF Comp Review
An 800mm Race Face Atlas 35 bar and 50mm direct mount stem help keep the Tues heading in the right direction.

Component Check

• RockShox BoXXer Team: After a few days at Whistler a sticky coating starting to appear on the BoXXer's left stanchion leg. It seems as if the combination of the heat and dust was causing the dust wiper to disintegrate and leave remnants on the stanchion, which definitely didn't help things out in the suppleness department. Seals do need occasional attention, and a few drops of fork oil around the perimeter worked as a temporary fix, but it's possible that this was an indication of a bad tolerance between the internal bushing and stanchion. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pull apart the fork to assess the situation further, but according to SRAM, this is an issue that could be dealt with by a local bike shop, even though the bike itself would have been purchased online.

• Sensus Disdaboss grips: I mentioned how much I liked the Disdaboss grips when I reviewed the Capra, and that feeling remain the same – these are extremely comfortable, with or without gloves.

• DT Swiss YT2020 wheelset: : When the dust had settled after multiple rounds of thrashing in the Whistler Bike Park the DT Swiss made YT2020 wheels were still spinning true, without even a loose spoke, an admirable accomplishment considering what they'd been through.

YT Tues CF Comp Review. Photo Laurence Crossman-Emms
PB test rider Donny Allison leaps into the light.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesYT have pulled off an impressive feat, creating a smartly spec'd carbon fiber downhill bike that's fully capable of high caliber DH racing or park riding for just over $4,000 USD. The Tues offers an incredible price to performance ratio, and proved to be another nicely executed offering from the German brand. With a well sorted DH bike and enduro bike now in their lineup, it's going to be interesting to see what YT come up with next, and how their competitors respond. - Mike Kazimer




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About the Reviewer
Stats: Age: 32 • Height: 5'11” • Inseam: 33" • Weight: 155lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Twenty years into a mountain biking addiction that began as a way to escape the suburban sprawl of Connecticut, Mike Kazimer is most at home deep the woods, carving his way down steep, technical trails. The decade he spent as a bike mechanic helped create a solid technical background to draw from when reviewing products, and his current location in the Pacific Northwest allows for easy access to the wettest, muddiest conditions imaginable.



286 Comments

  • 237 14
 IMO they should make a Lancondeguy signature model of the Tues with 26'' wheels.
  • 74 0
 In an interview with the German freeride magazine they said they have plans on a 26" compatible model
  • 45 154
flag iffy (Oct 11, 2015 at 6:38) (Below Threshold)
 does the CF stand for CracknFail? or is that unique to the Crappa?
  • 20 10
 That's the only thing stopping me from buying a Tues.
  • 41 33
 from what I hear there are many happy YT customers... now that they own something else. Wink

allegedly poor QC and CS, buy cheap, buy twice? Smile
  • 14 2
 The linkage bolts and shock mounting hardware on my YT were made of cheese. Put me off them somewhat tbh despite great prices and dialled geometry. They also wanted to charge me £20 to post me a single bolt...they may well have rectified these issues but I was disappointed.
  • 11 1
 Give them a season or Teo and it'll be sorted out. It's like most things, they just need to send out some patches hahaha. Beta testing is the pros, but we all know they can't find ALL the problems. Then they release to public, a couple thousand people start riding them, and then the problems emerge
  • 10 9
 The only detail I was looking for in this article, was if they were compatible with 26" wheels.
  • 56 23
 I wonder how many of the guys and girls making noise about 26" dying have spent at least a day riding 27.5?
  • 8 4
 iffy i thought the nick name was crackra after all the bbs, head tubes, back ends and paint cracks
  • 42 19
 @TopperharleyPT1 Most people aren't world cup racers travelling at light speed who are looking to shave a tenth of a second off their time. Most riders ride to have fun and lark about in the woods with their mates. So that's why a lot of riders prefer 26''. Because they find it more flickable, trickable and fun. That's the way I see it.
  • 13 2
 My frame was designed to accommodate 26 and 27.5 with adjustable geo. By just extending the chain stay length with 26 inch wheels makes a difference in the way it handles off jumps and in the air. I'd imagine adding larger wheels would only add to that difference in handling. I ride with a few people who went from the 26" V10 to the 27.5 V10 and they said it's a completely different bike. They couldn't say if it was entirely due to the wheel size, or if it was changes in the frame to accommodate the 27.5, but they both said the 26" was more playful on the jumps.
  • 9 7
 @cmkneeland if it's designed around 27.5" wheels it's obviously "compatible" with 26" wheels Wink
  • 5 0
 Norwegian Trond Hansen, former Specialized rider, just bought a 27,5" Tues this year and have been riding the Fest Series on 26" wheels. Works perfectly fine with two wheel sets. One for park riding and one for racing.
  • 1 0
 Why haven't they?
  • 8 3
 @duckcrisps That's not what I asked, I wonder who of the group that say 27.5 or 29 is not for them, have physically taken a bike out on the trail and ridden it? Took all of 3 runs for me to realise it made no difference to the manouverability of the bike in all situations, but improved it in several others.

For the point of the OP, i get why 26" would be better for slopestyle, but in the case of a FEST style DH bike used for huge jumps, 27.5 would be pretty sweet.

For the record also, I'm waiting on a new frame but have new 27.5" forks running in my 26" DH bike, runs sweet.
  • 2 1
 I'll second that. I was riding a modified 64° HA trail bike with 650b wheels and it was the most manoeuvrable bike I've ever ridden. 650b does not necessarily make a bike less manoeuvrable, flickable, tricks le or fun. In fact I've found the opposite. Other factors have much bigger effects on manoeuvreability. I agree that it could be good for massive fest style stuff because they hold speed a tiny bit better. I'm not saying they'd work on DJ bikes, 26" will always rule the DJ world.
  • 11 11
 It looks like somebody has not understood that the 26 "wheels are more rigid and reliable.
  • 10 9
 It looks like somebody has not understood that there's probably not much difference in strength ;-)
  • 13 2
 I spent nearly a year on 27.5, now I'm back on 26
  • 3 0
 I wouldn't be to botherd about the wheel size on the bike i'd be more cocerned about the negative comments about YT downhill bikes, A couple weeks ago I was at antur stiniog and within that day alone i heard multiple comments on how annoyed people were with these bikes and the problems were all the same. They all had problems with bearings and had to replace them all. No one was happy with their bikes and said they would never buy one agian. It's not just that day on quite a few websites i have heard the same thing. such a shame because they look like a nice bike.
  • 1 18
flag amirazemi (Oct 12, 2015 at 9:07) (Below Threshold)
 Arw you some kind of retard? Or just hatin on germans? There no bikes that doesnt crack. Besides this bike offers best comp with the best price and you call cheap cuz they bot trying to rip people off???? What a garbage human being this earth holds.
  • 3 1
 It's funny hearing the negative reviews about their customer service, and they coupled some of their builds with BOS, which is on the same level of NO customer service available. Seems like a perfect pair for each other, just hope nothing ever happens where you'd need service or support, 'cause you won't get it.
  • 1 0
 GENIUS IDEA
  • 113 44
 For the sake of potential buyers, i thought i would post my experiences of buying a Tues especially as i know some riders have potential concerns about the direct buy model. I ordered a tues based on what looked like a good spec and great reviews, I arranged to have it shipped to my girlfriend in Genva, from which point I would take it to the Alps for a week. When I ordered the Tues it stated that it was in stock, however there was a massive delay insending out the bike. Communications with YT were extremely frustrating with YT staff failing to respond to numerous e-mails to find out the status of the bike as my holiday (which i had planned long in advance) was rapidly approaching. In the end i rang them and the YT staff member told me the bike was still on its way, and would be another week, which meant I would miss my entire holiday in the Alps. Thus i ended up changing my ticket and returning home. In the meantime another YT staff member had written me an e-mail telling me the bike would arrive 3 days later. It was too late and I had already rebooked my ticket, I contacted yt and asked if they were willing to pay the rebooking fee for me to change the ticket back seeing as they had given me the wrong information. They weren't prepared to do this, so i ended up flying back to norway not wanting to spend a heap of money changing my ticket back, I thus missed a week riding in the Alps, never got to ride the YT which ended up getting sent back to Germany and had to deal with a lot of frustrating customer service. In the end the CEO of YT offere me a deal on a new Tues, which was acutally more expensive than the original when I ordered. When I noted this I got no reply. So basically this whole experience and a huge amount of wasted time and unnecessary stress has completely put me off YT bikes
  • 131 9
 And another for potential buyers, my bike was in stock when I ordered, it arrived earlier than expected, communication was fantastic from yt and I am very happy with the tues cf comp.
  • 198 8
 not saying youre wrong or anything but, i mean, if you centre a holiday around receiving a new something on a specific date/time (which can often be variable for many many things), youre gonna have a bad time.

no excuses for poor customer service tho.
  • 26 15
 @ gruged: Your Life is to Much complicated for a bike. It would be the same problem sometimes with other Brand.
  • 85 5
 Don't they rent bikes in the Alps?
  • 29 2
 I bought a Canyon and it arrived 2 weeks late. A friend of mine got it 2 months earlier than expected. You get what you pay for, I'm not rich so I prefer buying online with bad support. Also preparing your holiday, counting on a trouble-free delivery was a bit optimistic.
  • 10 1
 Exactly why i'm not sure yet to order a Capra. Lots and Lots of negative comments on the pinkbike forum ...
  • 12 0
 Go to their Facebook and you will find their communication is HUGE problem... For me big no no to order bike from them.
  • 39 3
 jeeeez, i wonder how many companies would have replied: yes sure, we will be happy to pay for your fees because you thought you could order a bike to your holdiday location just in time.
  • 12 2
 There are countless similar stories from traditional brick and mortar middle man distribution model bike manufacturers. What percentage of new model bikes end up on the showroom floor when they are originally scheduled?

In competitive industries, over promising and under delivering is a regular occurrence - regardless of being direct sales of middle man model based.
  • 14 0
 So, in with my current situation, I have a bit of both of the issues we're talking about here. I ordered a Capra and was told the delivery date would be late last month and have a trip planned in the middle of next month (still hoping I have time), and didn't receive an email saying it had sent, so I sent them an email asking about the status of the bike. I'm still waiting for the bike, but got a response very quickly about the status of it, sounds like its just hung up in customs and at the same time offered a cancelation and a full refund no questions asked, but that's besides the point. I sent a ton of emails to them even before I bought the bike while I was doing my homework before settling on this bike and have always gotten a response the was very helpful for everything I was trying to figure out and the response I got was always quick. My experience with them has been very good, and even though I'm having to wait longer than I thought, with the way the company has been towards me I'm still excited to get on a YT.
  • 10 3
 Special thanks to all of you buyer-direct guinea pigs. These companies will eventually figure it out. This could mean slightly higher prices in order to spend more on R+D, customer service, etc. Either way times they-are-a-changin'.
  • 5 0
 I feel like this can be said for any DH bike:
"little extra effort is required for getting around tight turns, and slower speeds aren't really the Tues' strong suit, but that's not what this bike is meant for. It's happiest rocketing along in a straight line, charging headlong into minefields of rocks and root, not puttering along smooth, mellow trails"
  • 4 1
 Had the same experience with ordering a Capra. Ordered the bike in June meant to arrive in August. I still haven't received it but apparently it's been shipped. Customer service is really poor they fail to answer questions regarding my order.
  • 3 1
 Wouldn't you want to test the bike a few times before you plan a trip??? And why not just give them a call instead of emailing and waiting?
  • 3 0
 My experience here in the states was excellent. Tues AL was back-ordered till mid may so i would miss the first day my local park was open and the first race of the season. (ok fine that's what i get for waiting till spring to buy a bike) about 5 weeks later i get a shipping confirmation and tracking number from howie zink and it turns out my bike is going to get here 4 weeks ahead of schedule. proceeded to blow up a rear wheel on a big drop gap case, frame took it like a champ, did about 5 races this season. (ugraded to charger damper and vivid early in the season, put on spank spikes after the rear wheel incident)
  • 4 2
 I had massive problems with YT when I bought my bike. My bike was having serious reliability issues. Kept throwing the chain no matter how it was set up and the e-thirteen cranks were unwinding themselves. Anyway, I emailed them 3 times with no reply. I got fed up of waiting and rang them. Was promised a call back but received none. Rang again and was promised another call back, never happened. In total I had to ring them 4 times before they even responded to my first email which had been received by them over a month earlier. It was over two months later by the time the problem was resolved. The bike then developed play in the main pivot and I just decided to cut my losses and sell it. Absolutely appalling customer service.
  • 3 0
 I had the same type of customer service issues with Canyon. It looks like both companies are selling more bikes than their customer services setup can handle.
  • 1 1
 Everywhere i read on the internet, the customer service with canyon is top notch.
  • 4 0
 Flying back to norway,seems legit for someone living in denmark.undercover pr guy from Canyon or what
  • 2 0
 @kampfar "your life is much too complicated for a bike." I am stealing this line. Thank you. Fantastic comment. You've made my day!
  • 1 0
 YT have had a supply issue from BOS, this means any bike with that fork has been delayed, they havent updated cause they havent known when they can deliver. They are now rebating customers AND providing 170mm BOS forks on the Capra's. An upgrade AND money back. Good customer service i would say in the end! BTW, I have a capra and no issues at all, got it early. I know a few owners and no-one complaining about it!
  • 2 0
 Thanks for the info that's the first I've heard of it , might of been nice for YT to tell tell me though.
  • 1 0
 I kind of worked out it was an issue with BOS as my mate got his rockshox equipped bike on time. (Probably went on strike!) Just gutted mine has taken so long but I just checked the tracking and its in the UK! So off to Afan at the weekend to see how it stacks up against the nomad I demo'ed there last week.
  • 1 0
 what a f..king stupid thing to do. I would never order anything to time it with a holiday. this is not a perfect world..
  • 1 1
 I didn't order anything to tie in with a holiday, but I can't see why you wouldn't. I'd imagine most people planning a trip would order stuff for their holidays. Unless your mum does it all for you.
  • 2 1
 My question is this....If you live in facking Norway, why do you have a girlfriend in facking Switzerland?
  • 1 0
 errrr wtf I was commenting grugged post...hello
  • 1 0
 so was i he said he flew back to norway but his girl lives in geneva?
  • 48 3
 "It seems as if the combination of the heat and dust was causing the dust wiper to disintegrate"
So SRAM fitted these forks with seals that are allergic to heat and dust?
  • 26 2
 Sram has apparently been having a lot of quality control issues with the factory assembling their stuff atm, they're cutting corners and screwing them around. The fork probably had no oil in it, and being unlubricated would have wrecked the seals, rather that the seals themselves.
  • 19 0
 Bad seals on a boxxer?? Never heard if that before.????
  • 11 0
 No oil like Clarkeh suggests. Bought my son a CF Comp in July. 5 days of rifing and he said the fork went to crap. Dropped the lowers and bome dry one side, few drops of oil on the other. Other than that the bike has been great.
  • 15 0
 I've had some new boxer teams this year, after two days in whistler the seals went and the black coating rubbed off the stanctions, luckily a local whistler bike shop helped me out' new stanction, fresh oil and grease. I've also had the rear monarch shock on my 2015 Capra die after 5 uk rides with the same issue, currently awaiting a new shock, my Capra has been out of action for 2 months now due to poor customer service from Yt, took them 6 weeks to reply to 2 emails, ended up sending the shock to tf tuned who are sorting out the warranty issue, not happy.
  • 7 0
 That's why I rebuilt mine and swapped for pike seals straight out of the gate.
  • 5 2
 That's nothing new. My Fox were dry from new
  • 3 10
flag oldschool43 (Oct 11, 2015 at 6:04) (Below Threshold)
 I don't about you guys, but look closely at the fork... Does it look bent/bowed on the side profile pic? I only clicked on this review because the profile/review pic because of the way the fork looked, it looked bowed down or bent... That would definitely cause wear..
  • 1 0
 Like @Clarkeh said, I've seen that same gray sticky residue on RS forks that don't have adequate lube oil in the lowers.
  • 16 2
 I'm feeling safe. There's one red solo cup of fork oil in each leg of my Supermonsters...
  • 3 1
 I think no oil in RS is a serious problem. One ride on my new lyrik and new there was a problem. Took it to the shop and no where near enough oil. Check the oil levels in all RS stuff would be my advice to anyone having issues
  • 3 1
 How do you think they get the weights so low? Strip them from new is great advice. Only takes half an hour tops. If you know what you're doing, ten minutes.
  • 6 0
 It's a must to take ANY new fork you have apart and change the oil. In fairness to Rockshox who the hell knows what happens to their forks once they go to a bike manufacturer (or re-seller for that matter). For all we know they are sitting in a 100+ degree warehouse. Then they get assembled and shipped around the world where they sit in showrooms for months or even years.
  • 2 2
 Good point. Hot shipping containers, warehouses, differing climates and who knows what else. It must be pretty easy to evaporate 5cc of oil. My DBC Marzocchi forks were pretty much dry when new too so it's not just RS.
  • 1 0
 Very good point. 5ml of oil didn't seem enough when I rebuilt my fork - had to double check.
  • 9 0
 Oil evaporates at 340°C guys...
I service my own forks and always let the old oil in a basin until I have enough to bring to the waste disposal.
It usually stays outdoor on the balcony for the whole summer and never saw it evaporating.
So evaporation in lower legs closed by a seal is impossible.
Imho it's more of a quality control issue.
  • 1 1
 Good point. They either didn't put enough in there, or it leaked out around the foot nuts.
  • 44 3
 But can you ride it on Wednesday? . . I'll show myself out
  • 10 1
 Will you let me pay you Tuesday for a Tuesday today?
  • 5 2
 See you next Tuesday...............
  • 38 4
 Maybe the Claw can take one of these in carbon to Rampage, do what specialized never let him do
  • 23 22
 The Claw just signed with Canyon.
  • 6 3
 you serious?
  • 4 4
 it is hard to get "rampage used" to a bike a week before the event. He most probably will ride a specialized bike with a sticker covering the brand
  • 9 15
flag owlie (Oct 11, 2015 at 9:49) (Below Threshold)
 Claw hasnt signed with Canyon.
  • 3 6
 I think the claw might be moving to trek. Bear with me for a minute. The video www.mbr.co.uk/videos/bikes-and-equipment/an-animated-history-of-freeride-mountain-bikes-with-darren-berrecloth
Shows some clips with the c3 project logo near his head tube. Coincidence? I think not.
  • 29 3
 bear with me for a minute, trek -> c3 project -> c3 -> 3 what has 3 points? that's right a triangle, bearclaw illuminati confirmed, half life 3 confirmed.
  • 12 0
 Why is @enrico650 getting neg propped? There's a video on Instagram showing the Claw building up a Canyon. Do I miss something here?
  • 1 8
flag owlie (Oct 12, 2015 at 5:51) (Below Threshold)
 @bananowy because claw hasnt. Will he? who knows, but he hasnt
  • 4 0
 @owlie have you seen the video on Instagram?
  • 4 1
 @owlie
He is with Canyon.
The reason he left Specialized is because they cut his salary to about a third of what he was making.
Deal with it.
  • 2 0
 Ah, I see. So is he just testing the bike now? Let's hope it holds up at rampage and Darren lands a new deal quickly then.
  • 3 1
 The deal is done
  • 1 5
flag owlie (Oct 12, 2015 at 8:29) (Below Threshold)
 If/when he signs with Canyon, there will be a press release. Not comments on PB.
Its not because they havent gotten around to making it public.
  • 3 1
 The deal is done. Has been for a while. He sold the specialized bikes. The pinkbike farewell video was put together a while back.
  • 3 1
 @owlie there’s a time and a place for outright denial. The Canyon press release is coming tomorrow.
  • 2 0
 Thanks for all the info Lads. Can't wait to see him smash some huge moves on the new rig. Cheers.
  • 1 0
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  • 31 1
 WHERE THE FACK IS RAMPAGE COVERAGE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
  • 7 1
 Exactly.....5 days to go and not a peep from PB. What's going on????
  • 7 0
 I was wondering the same thing. The official rampage website has all the goods though
  • 3 0
 thanks alex, the instagram of the riders has som things too (at least the claw)
  • 4 0
 Yeah and no news about the drama with line properties...aggy vs. the rest of the rampage world. www.redbull.com/en/bike/stories/1331752909703/rampage-2015-land-battle
  • 1 0
 YT flying their name on the moto booter!
  • 3 0
 I read that media is not allowed on site until later in the week. Thats when you will likely see PB providing more coverage. Right now all that's coming out for from redbull and the riders social media.
  • 22 1
 Could have elaborated a bit more, only five lines on how the bike handles is a bit Steve Jones-ish IMO..
  • 11 1
 I have the Tues CF Pro. It's a Very good bike for me, for bike park and freeride.
Before i ride différent model of Demo during ten years, i prefer this bike. The rear suspension is progressive and ithe bike is Easy in the small corner and Very cool at hight speed. it's a playfull bike..
Thanks to Yti.
  • 2 1
 which size did you choose and how tall are you?
  • 2 1
 I too came from riding different Demo 8's the past 5 years. I really like my YT Tues even with the more limited time I have had in the saddle here lately. I am about 5'10" and I chose the medium. It is a bit longer than my medium demo was, but feels great.
  • 2 1
 I.m 1,83 meters and i chooses a M.
  • 10 0
 I ordered my Capra and got it in less than a week (helps to be close to distribution). As soon as I ordered I got a personal email from a Zink letting me know it was on its way. Been riding it for a season and I love it. I like what YT stands for, I like the people running YT and I love the bike.
  • 3 0
 yep. Howie is OG
  • 10 3
 I'm sure the people running YT might be very good people but they are a business plain and simple. I see fanboys eating this stuff up all day but always keep in mind that brands are not your friend, they are trying to sell you on something all the time. All the "by riders, for riders" and whatever other shit they say is just marketing. What they stand for is trying to sell you a bike nothing more.

And for the record is 1000% OK. It's the same thing all brands do. People should just know this and make buying decisions based on equality, price, value etc, not what a brand stands for or what/who they sponsor.
  • 7 0
 From what I have seen, you have to distinguish YT outside the USA and YT in the USA which is distributed by Cam Zink and his brother Howie out of Reno. Personally, I have received great service from YT USA and most others have reported the same. This is in stark comtrast to YT outside of the USA, where service and support appear to be lacking.
  • 3 4
 1000% disagree sino.
  • 1 0
 Im glad you are happy with your bike. All I have heard about them is good things. I'd definitly consider one if I was in the market for a new bike. But it's going to be because the bike gets good reviews and comes with a solid built for a good price. Not because of some marketing hype or because Cam Zink responds to emails.
  • 2 0
 I understand your point sino and I think it true in large company situations like McDonald or IBM. But in a smaller company your marketing dept (if you have one at all) is not in another state or country, its the employees and the owners. I take into account as many variable as my simple mind can, reviews, tests rides, component reviews, geometry, cost. I love crunching the numbers but I also consider company philosophy and that did play a PART in my purchase of a YT. All things being equal, if it's between a corporate built bike and a bike "for riders, by riders" I'm going with the latter.
  • 2 0
 I ordered a Capra in July, and YT found out I was planning a vacation around the ship date. They offered to bring the bike to Mammoth for Nationals and refund my shipping. No kidding. I picked it up at the races, went to my camp-site, assembled it and returned to the park after Nats. was done. (I was just spectating). (I did update the Capra with Hope brakes)
My eldest son decided after riding the Capra to get a TUES CF Pro, that arrived on time and no issues.
My youngest wanted a DJ bike, so we got him a Dirt Love.
YT has been amazing to deal with and always replies promptly and has always exceeded my expectations.
Since I had three bikes to play with, I ended up entering the 2015 Kamikaze games in DH, DS and Enduro. I was going to race DS on the Dirt Love, but the lack of front brake (and my skill) had me back on the Capra for race day.
I ended up 4th in my age category on the TUES on a trail that I never would have ridden, much less raced. This article is sport on - it wants to go faster and had so much capability. Racing the next day on the same track on the Capra for Enduro was eye opening, I really missed the TUES!
The entire weekend at Mammoth, Cam and Howie both were chatting with me and they were totally stoked with my story. I am a squid, but they were kind enough to listen to my race reports and banter, and always were there with a high five!
  • 1 0
 I hear you Mt48. There are a ton of good bikes out there and it seems like you did it right. If it's all things being equal then yes for sure go with the brand you like. I feel like others though more blindly follow the hype.
  • 1 2
 What does 1000% mean exactly? I thought percentages were out of 100?

I would love to get a YT next year because I think they are as good as anything else but cost a lot less. There has to be an understanding that you could be waiting for a long time to take delivery though. Stuff breaks, too. Not just YT and not just carbon. Metal breaks too. It's a pain in the arse to send stuff back to Germany but worth the risk to save all that cash, in my opinion.
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 @Jaame - In my comment 1000% was just used as an exaggeration to show that I felt strongly about my point.

As for actual math, Percentages can go over 100. It's not a scale of 1-100. Percentages are simply a ratio based on fractions of 100. If the first quantity is much larger than the second in the ratio then the percentage will be well over 100.

For example, If a company has $10k in sales one year, then $110k the next year, the sales increase is 1000%.
  • 12 1
 Imagine the outrage if it turned out to be shit
  • 8 0
 I'm ready for YT to come out with a trail bike... the Capra is a bit much bike for my trails...
  • 5 0
 I really want to ride one, for cimprison sAke to othe DH bikes. The PF bottom bracket is just a turn off though. I know some people have great experiences with them, others poor, but in all the years I've been riding, I haven't once had an issue with a threaded BB. When they begin to creak and get gnarly, I can swap it out. Won't deter me from putting one through the ringer though.
  • 5 1
 "After a few days at Whistler a sticky coating starting to appear on the BoXXer's left stanchion leg..." Well, at least sram is consistent I'm making terrible suspension. I mean they only had like 20 years and millions of dollars to figure it out. Marzocchi went to super high quality, low friction skf dust seals. Got some aftermarket for my 55 ti... They're incredible. Goes to show how significant marketing is in this game.
  • 2 2
 Great news Eric! Marzocchi told me my seals on my 55 were shot and recommended I went for SKF. Despite the price, twice as much as OE, I ordered them this morning.
  • 2 0
 Something tells me your 55 seals lasted more than a weekend though. The OE seals aren't bad but you will definately notice a difference with skf.
  • 2 1
 My 55 seals lasted about 18 months. Last week on a ride the fork started clicking and felt sticky. It sounds to me like a broken shim or something. I did a lowers service and the clicking was still there. I sent them back and they said the click was caused by old hardened seals. Difficult for me to believe frankly, but they have assured me that's the problem. An upgrade to SKF is a reasonable price. Fingers crossed it fixes the click.
  • 1 0
 They use the same seals on the 55 as the 888. My 888 OE seals lasted about 3 years but I did service it often (not that I had to, but for better performance). One trick with the seals/ dust wipers is to coat the surface that slides on the stanchion with molykote 55 O-ring grease. The stuff works great. Plus you can use it for other o-rings you might find on your bike (hub caps, rear shock, other o-rings on the fork etc)
  • 1 1
 I normally clean the sanctions with a baby wipe and drip fork oil on the seals. I really look after them every ride. I was surprised by the diagnosis. Anyway I should get the fork back tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully he was right and it was the seals.
  • 7 3
 Rockshox Boxxers on YT Tues are total shit. Whey don't have oil in them, to save weight for specifications. I had the same issue on mine yt tues AL with boxxer comp, and saw plenty other bikes with boxxer 2015 forks with fucked up left stanchion leg. If you have a new bike with boxxer 2015 on it, take it to service ASAP before riding it.
  • 12 2
 What the f*ck does that have to do with YT?
What you are complaining about is SRAMs responsibility only and its also their own weight specifications they need to fit.
Do you really think YT opens the forks to let off some oil? rofl.
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 YT is responsible for putting shitty boxxers on their bikes. If i order a complete bike i expect that everything will be ok with it, instead i somehow need to figure out that my fork has no oil in it. After 10 riding days i decided to stop by service and ask why does some stuff coming out of left stanchion leg. Service the fork costs 40 euros but the left stachion was allready damaged, and then i need to contact yt and deal with warant, sending fork back, wait, etc. WHY DO I NEED THIS MESS FOR MY 10 DAYS NEW BIKE ????

for exsample. When you buy a new car u dont check if there is any oil in motor or suspension. RIGHT ?

Luckily for me i sold my YT after those 10 days when the boxxer problems started.

This whole thing just made my YT experience negative.
  • 6 4
 You're still missing the point, this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact you bought a YT. It could have been any bike with a boxxer on it. YT aren't responsible for checking that the components have been assembled correctly by their manufacturers. They're just like you; they expect that rockshox will send them a fully functional fork and that they shouldn't have to put oil in it.
  • 8 1
 I would say this is on both parties. Yes it's SRAM that might be supplying a faulty OEM part but it is ultimately being sold to you by YT. They are selling you a complete bike and they are the ones who chose the parts to spec those bikes with in the first place. A company cannot simply wash their hands of any responsibility when one of thier suppliers provides a faulty product.
  • 6 1
 Excellent point about the car suspension. Yoh wouldn't buy a car and check if there is any oil in it before driving it. This point makes a mockery of Rockshox.
  • 2 4
 Sram is shit, as Volskwagen.
  • 2 0
 I think the key takeaway here is that there are two separate issues at hand with a situation like this which shouldn't be confuse. There is fault and there is responsibility. The fault lies solely with SRAM for producing the defective fork. YT has nothing to do with that. But they did sell you a complete bike spec with that fork so they do share a large part of the responsibility for it to the customer.
  • 1 0
 I have an AL Comp on the way and will check the forks for oil when I get it. Is it a simple case of taking the adjusters off the bottom, letting the oil drain, inverting bike, fill each leg with correct amount of oil, job done.
  • 1 1
 Pretty much, yes. Do Boxxers have speedlube? If so, you don't need to remove the bolts, just the speedlube set screws with a T10. Drain and inject new oil with a syringe.

Stripping the lowers and lubing the seals from inside would be better though.
  • 7 0
 For the advrage joe mucking about on the trails. Just buy second hand. You are going to crash the fucker anyway.
  • 4 0
 For those complaining about the customer service, you guys must be in Europe. Calling YT in the states has been awesome. When Cam Zink himself answers the phone, its pretty cool. They have been nothing but nice and helpful whenever I have called.
  • 6 0
 Just in time before rampage, lets wait to see who dares to take one of these to Utah ! ... Oh wait !!!!!
  • 5 2
 carbon I trust. yt carbon not so much. bos even less and sram/rockshox qc is iffy to. that combined with the mail order std wait of 2 months for anything to get done. I just don't see the value in this, At least the handle bars are a safe bet tho
  • 1 0
 I don't know? they are made in stockport lol (renthal ones anyway)
  • 2 1
 Renthal bars are made in Taiwan if I am not mistaken.
  • 1 0
 The manufacturing site is on Bredbury industrial estate. All aluminium products are manufactured there. They outsourced the carbon bar construction as they have 0 experience with it.
  • 1 1
 Oh right. That's news to me. Thanks.
  • 1 0
 Just broken mine
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 Bars or stem?
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 Yt back end
  • 6 2
 I bought a tues pro and am still having problems with it. Nice bike, put together by idiots who shouldn't be aloud near tools and the worst customer service on the planet. Avoid at all costs.
  • 3 1
 Do you own a small bike shop, perchance?
  • 2 0
 No I do not own a small bike shop I'm an electrician. As some one who has actually purchased a tues from try industries I fugured that my opinion was relevant. Do you own a tues?
  • 2 1
 So who are you referring to as an idiot? I guess you don't mean yourself, but I thought yt was a home assembly brand. So who built yours? Not trying to be a wanker, although it sounds like it. I guess they have room for improvement
  • 1 0
 @jaame are you a complete tool, bikes come 95% built they are not an airfix model. All that is left to do is put bars and stem on, front wheel in n pedals on. So the idiots referred to are those who should be assembling bikes to a safe standard this is then passed through a quality control regardless of price, temperature of shipping containers or where they are made. Bikes should be delivered to customers in a satisfactory standard and this isnt case too often with Yt. Its always nice to hear other peoples opinions and you keep trying to put your input in but clearly have no experience to back up your comments.
  • 2 1
 I think the point is, in buying YT you are saving about 40% over a shop brand. The big drawbacks of direct sales are that you are going to have to be a pretty proficient mechanic yourself (and judging by
  • 3 1
 the comments a lot of YT customers aren't) and that you can't just take it back into the shop if something goes wrong. Since I am both a competent mechanic and a tight c*nt, I would have to say it's worth the risk to save thousands of pounds. I think it's amusing to hear people crying about their problems with their bikes, but forgetting to mention the thousands of pounds they saved when they bought YT. That is all. It's a gamble, gambles don't always pay off. If you can't fix your bike, better buy one from someone who can fix it for you.
  • 1 1
 I forgot to mention. I do completely agree with you. They should deliver the bikes ready to ride. Unfortunately a lot of people don't do what they should do (war in Iraq, anyone?) but at least with YT you have the choice.
  • 3 0
 Customer service? Well, I like buying from my lbs, they welcome me whenever I go in there, always offer me coffee, give me 10% discount on virtually anything I buy and go out of their way if I need anything urgently. Prices are good for new bikes too. I like my lbs.
  • 1 1
 Ten percent isn't much is it. Not enough to get me in b shop. Except for things that will probably need sending back like suspension and my dropper
  • 5 1
 In the review when it came out you said the large was short for anyone over 6ft (I'm 6.3 and its perfect for me) and now your saying its like an XL
  • 3 0
 Agreed. Though how much difference is 10mm really? Nothing. A 10mm longer stem won't compromise handling hardly. If it was 30mm longer yeah sure. I still believe the difference between frame sizes is too small. But YT are sizes anyway, they finally release an XL Capra and then make it barely bigger than the large. Dumb
  • 1 0
 Strange that a company that brought us a brilliant enduro bike that some people (like me) found was too short in medium and too high in large should then bring out a downhill bike that seems very long! If the medium Capra was an inch longer in the tt i`d have definitely bought one in preference to my Process 153 (which in hindsight I am glad I bought), i cant help looking at the side-on picture of this Tues and wishing the Capra frame looked exactly like that.
  • 3 2
 Being 6'2 the large would be too small for me. Same reach as my large operator which was a bit too cramped for my liking.
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 My mates got a large carbon Operator and its much shorter than a tues cf. Kona's are tiny. he had a medium before that and had to change it. My mates medium tues cf is longer
Reach should be a industry standard measurement but it isn't. Some how companies manage to get it different.

Sit on 1 and it will be perfect for you at 6.2]
  • 2 2
 No, it wouldn't. I've had plenty of bikes with similar geo and they're simply too small (for my preference) That paired with a long rear end and high standover kept me from buying these.
  • 2 1
 Oh alright mate, just trying to help. What I'm basically trying to say is I wouldn't go on the Geo that bike companies publish You need to sit on the bikes at least
  • 7 0
 With a reach of 450mm, the large Tues is longer than many of its competitors. There's no hard and fast rule regarding downhill bike fit - a large part depends on personal preference, but comparing reach numbers is a good way to get an idea of how a bike may feel. I'd say that the large Tues would fit riders up to 6'3" or so - it's not a short bike by any means.
  • 2 0
 The large Tues is one of the biggest large frames I have sat on , Stuiewarriors right about the kona sizing also as I know the guy he's referring to , and the medium kona he had is the smallest medium I ever seen , the large he has now is smaller than my large NP Pulse , to small for me to ride at 6'3".
  • 1 0
 I thought a proper XL was in the works?
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 I hope so. Eyeing a DH bike, and would need an XL! 6'5"...
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 I hope local bike shops will be charging Yt owners to deal with Sram warranty's.
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flag ZeGermans (Oct 11, 2015 at 6:40) (Below Threshold)
 Warranty claims don't work like that...
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 Yes they do, why should a shop give up a few hours of their time for free, when they haven't made any money out of you. Sounds like bad business to me, if you want free help with warranties, go to the place you bought the product from.
  • 4 2
 They do in the shop that I work in,why should I process a warranty claim for someone and give my time and not get paid .
  • 3 1
 SRAM stuff up and expect someone else to clean up their mess?

Warranty doesn't work like that.

SRAM compensates for hours of service at approved dealers...

Does your shop not service forks on bikes bought through other shops?
  • 2 0
 My shop is a Rockshox premium dealer and yes we do service bikes and forks brought from other shops BUT not for FREE. Fisher outdoors who are the UK distribution for Sram don't offer any compensation for our time .
  • 1 0
 Service was the wrong word. I was hoping you'd get that I meant to write warranty. Do you warranty claim bikes bought from other shops, because that's no different to someone buying online.
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 If you don't buy the product from us we will not warranty it for free, it costs man hours and postage to do . Sram do not refund or pay for anything that includes postage !!!!
  • 2 0
 So it would seem that if you buy a YT you have to accept there will be delays in delivery. Probably because they are popular and because they are offering unrealistic lead times. So just plan ahead.

It would also seem that at least 70% of the actual angst about the bike is actually about the components...which at this price you are getting at a ridiculous discount.....

And finally people dont like direct sales and feel like it is cutting LBS short.

So I have a solution to keep everyone happy....buy the bike but plan to ride your old one til it arrives. When it arrives spend $150 of the thousands you have saved over other bikes getting your local bike shop to check it over and make sure it is all good. id do that for peace of mind and because they would be able to process any potential warranty claims on components quickly.

To be fair, it is direct sales, its dirt cheap and they are great bikes....BTW EVERY SINGLE PERSON i meet on the trails who has a YT absolutely loves them.....and that's a lot of people.
  • 2 0
 am i wrong in thinking boxxers coming from factory with no oil has been happening for years and most people know about it?
i bought a set of boxxer rc like 2 years ago and they had little oil in them, but as i knew about it i sorted it before it was a problem, plus i knew they were done proplerly.
my point is if you buy any bike with a boxxer is worth pulling the lowers and putting the correct amount in. regardless of who made it.
its not yt's fault the forks are shipped like this.
also you would have thought RS would have pulled there finger out by now.
lets be honest, if this bike came with fox 40s people would be bitching "yt's are shit my forks rattle blah blah"
thats the way it is, yeah it sucks, either live with it or buy a skateboard
  • 6 5
 I am happy that this carbon version is not that light, much like the Glory carbon. I would prefer a heavier than normal carbon frame all day err'day. Carbon is far better than aluminium, less expensive, yet all the brands over-glorify its characteristics and then make paper thin bikes and then wonder why people stray from the magic material. Just make it out of carbon, save 400 grams, but know that you can land the sketchiest of ways and walk away with it.
P.S. This carbon bike is too heavy for you? I guess that is why you will not see a broken one, ever!
  • 6 1
 Beware of white frames, they look terrible when dirty...I have two Frown
  • 2 1
 37.7 lbs is light. Really light. My rig ( carbon ) medium full built is 42lbs. But all saint and fox 40. Personally I'd take the extra 7 lbs over riding sram. But nice looking bike none the less. Also as a bike tech most shops should at least charge shipping and time to a warranty as if you didn't buy from us we need to be remunerated for our time. Also I would like to see YT work with some shops as most people don't own a torque wrench and the right torque matters. Not to mention peace of mind having a tech piece it together.
  • 1 0
 I ordered mine, it arrived 1 week later than expected. No problem.. As an added bonus YT gave me a 200 euro discount to make up for the delay ( totally unexpected and a lovely surprise)!! Mine is a size small and is awesome!! Totally love it and weighs about 6 lb less than my old Iron Horse Sunday. I am not a super fast rider and I find it easier to handle at modest speeds and round corners than the Iron Horse. All good and great customer service in my experience.
  • 1 0
 I bought the base model YT Tues right when they were for sale in US. It showed up on time, it was easy to assemble, and the bike was better than I expected. Smoothest bike I've ever ridden. My friends want one now and I definitely be buying another in the future.
  • 8 7
 I can't help feeling a lot of people posting up negative comments are bike shop owners or bike company employees who are trying to put people off YT for their own gain. The fear of YT is spreading. Rip off manufacturers are cacking themselves at their dwindling market share which is bound to happen over the next five years... until Investcorp buys YT and puts the prices up
  • 2 1
 No I am not nocking on YT. I think their bikes are very nice. I am however stating that no matter where a bike comes from. And I imagine the guys at YT would agree , that putting a bike together isn't like painting a boat put back while you bbq and toss back a few beers. Now I am certain that a professional tech with his techy buddies could but for the most part it should be done by professionals at a store using the proper tools and during time that belongs to you the customer. And In my other post I just stated I would like to see a different drivetrain. Like zee or saint.
  • 1 0
 @jaame Are you just blinded by a bargain? Yes the whole yt range are great bikes but the problems that come with the brand seem to be a common thing. There are endless people on here with real problems yet you think its propaganda! You maybe should look at previous bikes owned by the people you are asking if they own a small bike shop, Im sure you can find your answer there. I helped a friend who had problems straight out of the box with his yt tues cf comp his bos void blow up on inital test ride, also it had a damaged top cap on bos forks, rear brake was leaking and rotor was damaged. He then struggled to get any response from yt until he firmly requested his money back. This is all down to poor p.d.i on yt behalf. However you clearly have made your mind up that its small bikes shops turning against a marvellous company, so plese keep putting your input in and good luck if you ever buy one.
  • 4 0
 I was going to order a capra, but after looking into the type of CS they offer which is none, I gave up on getting one.
  • 1 0
 I love my Tues AL Comp. Been beating on it for 3 months now with no issues and im 235lbs. Race CAT1 and ride all the big stuff at highland. Everything is holding up incredibly well. I had a 2013 demo 8II before it and i was comfortable on this and liked it more in 10 minutes of riding.
  • 1 0
 I've been riding a YT for 3 years now.
Can't fault it - having to order expensive mech hangers with daft shipping costs is a PITA but I have a sweet bike that soaks up anything I throw at it, and which was about half the price of anything else with the same spec. It's been used and abused, thrashed and crashed and is still super solid - I have total confidence in hitting anything on it.

I'll be happily ordering a Tues CF Pro as soon as they build it in an XL (which surely must be 2016 as the Carpa AL is now in XL).
  • 1 0
 This comment will be downvoted a lot, because it doesn't fit the general opinion, but the Tues i rode was nothing like a good bike. Very unstable, was hard to corner, felt very nervous and even kinda unwiedly and way to big though i was on a size M. Still, it was a expo bike, so the setup didn't fit but i didn't like it.
  • 1 0
 My YT Tues CF Pro is by far the best bike I've ever riden! I don't see myself going back to 26 any time soon. This bike can handle anything I throw at it and at 220lbs it still rides like a dream for me being on the heavier side. Customer service from YT has been top notch. Call any time and get Howie or Cam on the line and they'll work with you for whatever the problem is. I had a Whistler trip planned and was waiting on the bike and Howie said they'll overnight the bike if they have to just to get it to me in time. YT is definitely doing everything right!
  • 1 0
 I've owned a 2012 Tues Limited edition for 3 years now. Ridden it for 3 race seasons, including a 24hr DH race and 2 week-long Morzine trips, with NO mechanical issues at all. I bent the forks' stanchion and the e13 crank at a wreck, but the frame and shock have been untouched since I got the bike, the original bearings run with no notable drag and no play. I'm no pro, but neither smooth or featherweight.
  • 1 0
 To Carym and Kathg
I am 5.87 ft 174.5 cm. I want to order a medium size.What is your advice???
I dont now about the costumers service now!! but i had a tues in 2010; broke the chainstay when i was in porte du soleil.
Called yt and 2 days later they send me a new one in Morzine post office.
So back then the service was verry good..!!
  • 7 3
 17.1 kg Corbon-Bike... ????????
Alu Version weighs probably less?!?!
  • 4 1
 Exactly the same weight as my 9 years old Bighit, so much for weight savings >.
  • 4 7
 a) It's great value b) weight isn't everything and c) budget parts and a proper DH spec will make almost any frame build in to a "heavy" bike
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 RockShox BoXXer Team RC fork, Vivid R2C shock, SRAM Guide brakes, and a DT Swiss wheelset...
Are this budget parts??
The same parts are on Speci or Trek Bikes $ 8'000 Bikes!?
And weight is everthing! All talk about the weight!
For $4000 17 kg OK.
But for $8000 and more 17 kg are unacceptable.
  • 3 1
 not sure, if I got that right... is this review on a large sized frame? if so, it's no wonder that it seemed to be long for a guy with 5'11 height..
  • 6 2
 Just buy a Knolly. You get what you pay for.
  • 1 0
 Ordered my yt Tuesday cf 1 week later arrived at my house Superb service again as was with my capra last year Awesome riding bike jumps like a flea on steroids Happiest 47 year old on the planet Thank you YT
  • 2 0
 Unlike what some of the others have said, I have had great service when calling into YT USA. I have called a few times and I talked to the same person each time!
  • 1 0
 And another for potential buyers, my bike was in stock when I ordered, it arrived earlier than expected, communication was fantastic from yt and I am very happy with the tues 2.0 AL
  • 1 1
 My mate's Tues (purchased off the net) shed a mech hanger about a month ago, he's waiting on a replacement and will have to fit it himself when it eventually arrives.

My specialized was bought from a large chain bike store, the headset bearing's developed the slightest bit of play, called the shop, they ordered the parts, I dropped it off last night and it will be ready for collection this afternoon. 6 days after I reported it.

Meanwhile my mates riding a hybrid specialized frame with with a random selection of parts just to get a ride, he's missed 2 race weekends now.

YT make a great budget bike but thats exactly what they are, if your expecting the same quality control and customer service that you get from the big brands, your in for a let down.

I feel lucky that when I went to order a YT they had no idea when they could supply the bike so went 'brand name'. Shame cuz the bikes look the business.
  • 1 0
 every make of bike sheds mech hangers - you know they are special order items with YT so why wouldn't you buy one as soon as you get the bike? Its one of those parts that you know will eventually bite the dust.
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 Your missing the point, all bikes brake, some brands are just better at sorting it out.

A month to replace a warranty part is a joke and for people using these bikes competitively its costly too when you start loosing you entry fees and cant ride.

What happens when the chain stay snaps or top tube cracks, should he keep replacement frame parts too? And who should pay for them? Perhaps YT should send 2 bikes just in case.
  • 1 0
 A mech hanger is a warranty part? I'd consider it a consumable - hence why its about the only spare part YT sell direct on their website.
As for the 'broken frame' argument that's a total strawman - lets see your LBS replace an entire broken frame for you without question - I know plenty of people that have had big brand bikes bought from an LBS that have had major problems getting parts replaced under warranty.
And we are talking about a part that is renowned for breaking, regardless of the make - as such pretty much every single person I know has a spare one somewhere. I just went onto YTs website - every mech hanger they make is in stock and can be delivered to you within a couple of days - quite why you think its a month I don't know - unless this is a warranty argument in which case that could happen with any company and the delay has absolutely nothing to do with availability and everything to do with customer service of the manufacturer. As you stated your issue took six days - I can get a mech hanger from YT in three, yeah I'd have to fit it myself, but its a mech hanger - if you are racing competitively and cannot replace a mech hanger then something is seriously wrong.
  • 6 3
 YT seem to have smashed it again
  • 7 5
 In my opinion - YT now is the most awesome and fast growing company. Cool bikes, very nice commercial system.
  • 4 1
 Just spend the extra $500 and get the BOS suspension instead.
  • 1 0
 Polygon pulled Sorge, since Claw and Sorge are riding some of the same line I wonder if The Claw will be riding for Polygon.
  • 11 0
 The Claw and Sorge have been working on a similar line for Rampage, but he will not be riding for Polygon.
  • 1 0
 Damn disappointed to hear that. Was hoping you guys got him.
  • 1 0
 Claw is with Canyon
  • 2 0
 The bike felt long? They need an XL bad and fast if you are over 6' 2" the LG will probably be too small.
  • 1 0
 sick bike. does anyone know, if you can put this on a thule roof rack? it seems there is no space clamping the holder on the frame Frown
  • 2 0
 Am i the only one thinking this has been first in the frontpage for too long?
  • 1 0
 YT is really making a name for themselves! It's good to see them compete with all the big named brands and offer a bike with this spec for such an incredible price
  • 3 1
 Still wondering how they shot this first photo.
  • 1 0
 Wingardium Levios
  • 19 0
 If you teach your bike properly, it should be able to trackstand by itself.
  • 2 0
 You gotta start training them when they're still pups.
  • 1 0
 Its leaning on the "comp"
  • 2 0
 nice review mike , I want one !!!
  • 2 0
 so what about a canyon dhx review ?!
  • 2 1
 BUY A FOES. Great customer service, quality boutique frames and builds. nuff said.......
  • 2 0
 just a bunch a weeners fightin over bbq sauce
  • 1 0
 Will be the best one... As it has not got that BOS crap that takes months to get fixed...
  • 9 8
 Doesn't look like a session
  • 1 0
 Too much stack height and reach for S size!
  • 6 0
 Thtas strange. My kid is 5'3" and loves the fit. Worked well enough for him to takes the points championship in his class for the summer at Northstar.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I'm 5 ft 4 and my Small is spot on too!
  • 1 0
 Do you guys mind posting a photo of you on the bike? I am really think 410mm reach is too long
  • 1 0
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/12788944

If that doesn't work, just click on my name and you can see a photo with him on it.
  • 1 0
 Thanks for the picture, reach looks good, what a great bike you got him
  • 1 0
 Carym and Kathg
I am 5087ft (174.5cm) i want to order a medium size yt tues pro. you have any advice regarding to your height and frame size,,,?????
  • 1 0
 You are right between sizes. Keeping in mind the Tues is part of the longer and lower movement, I would suggest you consider:

1) Compared to most people your size are you proprtioned the same, have a longer torso with shorter legs, or a short torso with long legs? If you are torso long, then the medium, if a short torso, the small.
2) How do you like your bikes to fit. If you like them short and playful like a BMX bike, a small. If you like longer and stable, a medium.
  • 1 0
 Do they have clinics for the local shops ?warranty issues?
  • 1 0
 Can I ask, how long do they normally take to ship then, realistically?
  • 1 0
 Mine shipped next day, it was in stock.
  • 3 2
 SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BIKE DEALER!!!!!!
  • 3 0
 For you that would include YT, right?
  • 2 1
 hahaha.... almost. But where do I go if I have a problem with my bike?! Thats why i would never buy my bike on the internet.
  • 1 0
 it only seems to make sense
  • 1 0
 So in between the down hills whats it like on the enduro?
  • 2 1
 damn I want. Now.
  • 2 0
 I know right? I'll sell you my GT. Big Grin
  • 3 1
 give you $20 for it, and no. I'm not lowballing you.
  • 1 0
 This is payback isn't it?
  • 1 0
 for whaaaaat? aha I'm giving an honest bid.
  • 1 0
 That DJ bike you were selling remember?
  • 2 2
 I think they are gorgeous bikes.
  • 3 2
 I'll take your session
  • 3 3
 Sram and brake should never be in the same sentence, ever.
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