Spotted: Prototype Maxxis Minion Semi-Slick Tire

Feb 4, 2015 at 14:28
by Mike Kazimer  
Maxxis semi-slick prototype
Maxxis semi-slick prototype

Semi-slick tires aren't a new concept in mountain biking, but they've experienced a resurgence over the past year or so, with Schwalbe's Rock Razor and Specialized's Slaughter tires being the two most prominent examples, and now it looks like Maxxis is getting ready to join the fray. The growth of enduro racing is certainly part of the reason this style of tread patten is gaining in popularity, along with the fact that companies are now using much taller outer knobs compared to what was done in the past, which improves cornering and expands the range of conditions the tire is usable in, especially when matched with a wide, aggressive tire in the front.

We recently spotted a prototype 27.5” tire from Maxxis being tested in the woods of the Pacific Northwest, and were able to
Maxxis semi-slick prototype
snap a few shots of the new tread patten. The pronounced side knobs are identical to those found on Maxxis' Minion, using an alternating pattern of a rectangular knob that's siped down its center, followed by an L-shaped lug around the tire's perimeter. Miniature versions of those L-shaped lugs are found on the borders of the tire's low-profile center portion, along with a row of ramped knobs running down the very middle.

So far Maxxis is keeping quiet about the tire's specifics, but with the Andes Pacifico and the first round of the Enduro World Series fast approaching, it wouldn't be surprising to see the new tire start appearing on the bikes of Maxxis' sponsored riders.


MENTIONS @Maxxis




216 Comments

  • 289 5
 Step one: get a DHF. Step two: put it on the back. Step three: skid a lot. Ta-daa - semi-slick.
  • 24 1
 Good idea saves us poor bikers cash.
  • 31 1
 Take 2-3 runs on a Sick-E... no skids... and you'll still have a semislick at the base.
  • 24 4
 All these trends are making me go bald!]
  • 111 1
 Pay top dollar to experience the performance of a worn out tire!
  • 148 0
 I've got several of these prototypes in my garage as we speak!
  • 6 0
 I'm two-thirds of the way there!
  • 3 0
 Responded to wrong item.
  • 5 0
 or just do a couple of skids on some chicken wire that is typically on wood features
  • 6 1
 Haha my DHF are usually semi slick most of the year. At least they are awesome for 2 months...so why would I buy a tire that is dead from the get go? Perhaps WC track(no braking), or commuting to work.
  • 5 0
 they are good for people who like to skid, fast rolling and low traction for braking tho ... not for average riders id say,...
  • 55 6
 Lol at these comments. If you know how to rail a corner properly, the side knobs on a DHF will start tearing off long before the center wears down.
  • 9 2
 brandon is 100%
  • 14 2
 @brandonf said like a true park rat. Show me all the berms to rail in North Van, there may be at least 12 of them foo.
  • 2 7
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 4, 2015 at 20:26) (Below Threshold)
 ^there is lots ^ not an exucse m8 ^
  • 5 0
 I'm pretty trail savvy, most of the secret berm runs are punched dead or decommissioned. Bobsled green, maybe Seymour blue, who rides that stuff?
  • 3 1
 Everybody seems to ride bobsled. It's a good, quick warmup lap.
  • 5 1
 ya just make errythang a berm
  • 8 0
 take a set of side-cutters to the center knobs of a folding swamp thing? i did that in a race like 8 years ago, i knew i was before my time...
  • 4 1
 the side knobs on my HRII's already have cuts on the inside section. the middle knobs are just fine, railing a corner only requires side knobs @brandonf is super right.
  • 4 2
 Surely the transition from the centre to out side is going so be not very smooth ? I mean the middle is almost like a flat spot with the edges being so high ?
  • 1 0
 Yeah you would think but I know lads that swear by them - they are rounder than they appear or at least the razor and slaughter are, for climbing on the dry I can get it as it makes life easier, for braking on steep sections I cant get it in my head, I like having a big tyre and don't mind carrying the middle up if it is there when I come down. if I spent life riding dry and fast trails or even bike parks then I would use these types of tyres all the time, the reality is that I don't
  • 4 1
 This tire is grossly misunderstood
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ucgx_6ZqoM
  • 7 0
 I can't even read the article since this tire is NOT for General use and I'm a 69 star General.
  • 3 0
 Does nobody remember the maxxis high roller semi slick from a few years ago? This but with highroller side knobs.
  • 1 0
 I used to have a Maxxis Brian Lopes Bling Bling tyre which matches that description. It was pretty good actually, but they only made it for a short while.
  • 3 0
 I loved my old High Roller semi slick, shame they don't still make it. Wish they'd bring it back along with the Swamp Thing.
  • 1 0
 Despite the (at least today) horrible name, these Bling Blings were some of the best dual/4x tyres ever made.
  • 2 0
 I'll take two.
  • 1 0
 Got told the other day the side knobs on my front tire are tearing off cos I use too much front brake in corners?..
  • 133 1
 I'm semi-interested.
  • 41 3
 It looks slick
  • 46 4
 imgur.com/yPrJVMQ

Pic Semi related
  • 29 59
flag pieters (Feb 4, 2015 at 16:22) (Below Threshold)
 please stop i am tired of puns
  • 59 1
 ^then you never should've tread in here
  • 30 2
 i need to get a grip and retract my statement before i get punished any further
  • 13 12
 I tyre of all these puns!
  • 9 2
 Slick move by maxxis. Maybe not--just semi slick.
  • 5 20
flag christx (Feb 4, 2015 at 21:11) (Below Threshold)
 I am VERY interested in this style as long as the casing on the semi-slick area is strong. I do a good mix of climbing and descending where I ride 90% of the time. No Shuttles. Take notes Maxxis, the small-block-eights are fun tires but need much stronger casings and sidewalls. Funny that my old P1 runs small blocks and the AM-fs runs DHF 26x2.5 ust's f&r. Do it Maxxis! ps. use some 5.10 stealth rubber on the very outer knobs too Smile
  • 16 2
 Already bought some new tires, so i will knobby riding this new tire
  • 7 4
 I've got a semi on just looking at it
  • 2 5
 That tyre is semi-sick.
  • 1 1
 Im getting tyred of all these slick puns!!
  • 1 0
 Come on, lets not compound the issue!
  • 59 1
 "KNOBS GOT ROBBED"
  • 3 1
 haha pure genius
  • 1 0
 according to rampage 2014 it'd be knobby got robbed... god that hurts.
  • 82 35
 Yes! Just please make one in 26"
  • 135 24
 Stop pandering to the masses for free internet points, this isn't Reddit bro.
  • 31 90
flag parallaxid (Feb 4, 2015 at 15:20) (Below Threshold)
 why would anyone want a tire in 26"?
  • 46 8
 Looks like a Trek.
  • 35 2
 I was hoping for a 26 too. So the masses can kiss my asses.
  • 7 0
 I presume sarcasm on the part of @parallaxid
  • 21 2
 @Allthebikes - I need a total of: 379235473003480 positive props, 2981 followers more and 34734 likes on FB. When put through Clive F. Hansons equation that will give me number of the beast 666 which then multiplied by Cramptons number of profile visits would give number Pi. In this way I would access the entrance to other dimensions and I will get all the power over bike industry. The trouble is... my props count is currently at -27239.
  • 2 0
 Can you actually tell how many props you have overall then? I always kind of wondered what the point was in propping as at the end of the day it was just a number at the end of a comment (other than to just get rid of spam).
  • 13 1
 I don't know el-nombre - Otherwise I could not sleep at night... All I can tell you is that once I got -240 for one comment, and I easily got -1000 under just one article. Good times!
  • 1 1
 They are some pretty impressive stats!
  • 4 0
 WAKI is the most well loved pinkbike troll ever!
  • 2 0
 jaame those were the times when people were propping like crazy after the system has been introduced. Then they made this thing when you could see who propped or negpropped you and it got down by a half or so and never came back up.
  • 2 7
flag scottrallye (Feb 6, 2015 at 12:50) (Below Threshold)
 Please don't, we don't need to perpetuate a dying wheel size. Just let the 26" die and embrace the new.
  • 7 4
 For fks sake wheel size is overrated, it is a bullshit! Think complete bike damn it! Freaking 1 degree of head angle change or 1" of top tube will do more change than switch between 26 and 275 or 275 and 29. Damper you put into your fork, which tyres you put on will change, who the F builds a bike that is exactly the same as his old bike with only wheel size upped with frame and fork adjusted accordingly?! I have never ever seen a guy who does that, but this is exactly how 99% of enlightened morons think, by eliminating all the variables but the wheel diameter. But guess what, if some dude bought a 26" Spec Enduro Expert in 2012 and he moves to Enduro 2015 Expert in 650B then pretty much every f*cking bit of build is different! Wheels, brakes, drive train, grips, bars, saddle - each of those things changed in last 3 years! Even if changes are small Lyrik got replaced by Pike, SLX brakes with Guides, then all together make a freaking big difference, so it would be a new better bike even if f*cking wheel size stayed the same. Then if you move somewhere else, surface of trails changes, altitude differences increase, then maybe you buy Enduro Evo and then everyuthing freaking changes even more! AAAAAAA!!! Why are people so fkng narrow minded?! Why can't you people see several issues at once, three at least?! And then some idiot comes along, "saying that larger wheel rolls over better, and it's simple physics" - you dumb fktard! Die in excrutiating pain! I hope some religious maniacs get your pseudo atheist, pseudo scientific arse and sacrifice you by ripping your heart out through anus, so that there is more rain coming next year! NOBODY GETS EVERYTHING!!! NOBADAEEEEE!!!

www.pinkbike.com/photo/10650221
  • 2 0
 Strongly disagree @scottrallye, people need to keep letting manufacturers know that they still want 26". Why would anyone want less choice?
  • 1 0
 LOL slightly more emphatic than me Waki. And in first.
  • 4 0
 I think those were WAKI's last typed-words as he perished on his computer from a stroke!!! hahaha.

NOBODEEEE!!!! gasps, vein bulges, house lights fade to black>
  • 1 0
 Ban suspension from world cup DH!
  • 2 0
 C'm on baby! Let's do the fist! C'm ooon babaaaaeeee, let's do the fist! C'm ooon, stick up your lovely buuutt! 'n let me do the fist!
  • 17 1
 As much as I loved the Rock Razor, it's short life span is the reason I didn't get another one when it died. If this one lasts longer I'll be all over it.
  • 7 0
 Which compound rock razor did you get?
  • 22 33
flag mountainbiker929 (Feb 4, 2015 at 15:12) (Below Threshold)
 Its a schwable tire the have never lasted more than a ride or two for me.
  • 9 0
 yeah you probably had a very soft compound. i'd get this tire in 60a. my main concern is how it'd do on braking. yes, surprise surprise i use both tires to brake, and i'm suspicious of those center knobs and if they can handle the Loose-Over-Hard shit dirt we have in SoCal.
  • 8 0
 The Conti's with Black Chili hold up really well for me.
  • 1 0
 i used to run Kenda Happy Medium, its pretty similar to this... it was very fast, but the braking and climbing traction was not hot... its not the tire for a person who uses a lot of rear brake... just for climbing i switched to the H-Factor which was better uphill and only a little slower rolling.
  • 2 0
 I'm already having trouble stopping on SoCal hardpack with the new Nobby Nics in Pacestar out back. Can't imagine what a RR or a different semi slick would perform like.
  • 16 6
 mb929 is right. Quit neg propping the guy for speaking the truth... Swhwalbe tires have VERY soft compounds. They are a "race day tire" at a premium price. You cannot buy it in a 60A like you can a Maxxis. They have 3 compound levels; "Vert star" is the softest, good for literally a handful of runs. Trail star is their mid level, I got one of these to last a whopping 3 days at whistler, on the front. Pace star is their hardest available compound, which is only available in a VERY few tread styles, NOT Magic Mary and NOT rock razor. In fact, I just read through their own website and NONE of the "gravity" style tires they offer come with a Pace Star compound. You'll burn through these tires like a fat chick through her own wedding cake after she got left at the alter...
  • 5 0
 The Rock Razor is only offered with Pacestar compound in the standard Snakeskin casing and only in Trailstar in the Super Gravity casing. So if you want a beefy casing and Pacestar, not gonna happen. A Pacestar Rack Razor does it exist though.
  • 3 0
 Try a Kenda BBG. Got a bit more tread in the middle than the RR or Happy Medium do.
  • 2 0
 Who cares about props? Ridiculous. I'll take as many as you can dish out.
  • 3 0
 Try some bontrager xr3's, crazy fast and they have a good lifespan
  • 4 0
 @bmoore34 my XR4's lasted me 3 times as long as my HRII's and yes, the HRII's were 60a. Bontrager makes really good tires, they're just expensive, and you HAVE to get the team issued tires.i'm thinking of getting some of their gravity tires for my AM bike.
  • 2 1
 low knobs AND 60a? No thanks, one or the other please, both would be like trying to rollerskate on marbles.
  • 3 0
 I've just put some bonty xr4 teams on my am bike (well I bought two but at he mo in running one on the rear with a maxxis shorty up front - a suprisingly well matched pair) I bought the xr4 because I was planning on getting a rock razor for summer on the rear but I'm so impressed with the bonty I might just get an xr3 or 2. I bought mine from Evans cycles for £27.99 each which I think is cheap for a tyre when most maxxis, conti or schwalbe tyres are £40-£50 and even more in some cases.

As for the black chilli compound, I have der kaisers and mud kings and I'm really impressed with the grip and carcass strength. Although my am bike came with trail kings which are very draggy and don't offer desireable grip and inflate super wide so mud clearance is poor. I find the maxxis 3c an equally good compound but I got my first puncture (a snake bite at 25psi - I run anything from 20psi to 45psi) for a year and a half with the bonty. It's worth it for the grip though, especially for the price.
  • 3 0
 try getting the team issue, it will last you half year (if you ride 2 times a week for about 15 miles each time) or about 4 months if you ride 4 times a week like me. they are great tires, might switch back to them after my HRII's get burned out.
  • 1 0
 Yeah my xr4s are team issues but still only cost £27.99each.

Have you tried se's? Are they the same but with a stronger carcass? Have you tried any of their mud tyres?
  • 1 0
 no. they're pretty expensive at my LBS so i haven't tried any. and we don't have mud over here so i haven't tried their mudspikes. i want to try their G4 tires because I've heard they're like DHF's but slightly longer lasting tread. which i'm down for. might put the G5 on back, similar tread patter to a DHRII so it could be great as well. infact i'll do that next time i get new tires (probably this summer)
  • 1 0
 idk what the difference between SE and XR is.
  • 2 0
 The g4 tread pattern looks very similar to der kaisers too, which are great IMO.

Bonty are definately an overlooked tyre. Mountain Biking UK magazine did a tyre test the other month and the xr4 won it (test included HR2, magic Mary, mavix charge etc.) they even admitted that they wouldn't have tested the bonty had it not been on a test bike. They were impressed by it on the bike so they decided to take it off and put it in the test.

When I had a punture the other day, it was a pinch flat so rapidly deflated to 0psi (obviously with a tube) and the tyre was still properly rooted into the tubeless grove of the rim (e13 trs+). So I bet tubeless set ups are a piece of p*** for the xr4 too.
  • 3 0
 I run the XR4 and XR3 Team Issue tubeless on my bike for two years now. It was easy to set up and works flawlessly. The 4 offers a lot of grip and the 3 has little rolling resistance. So far I haven't had one flat tyre over the last 5.000 kilometers on rough, rocky alpine terrain. They last long and the price is fair, compared to Conti and Schwalbe. Bontragers are definitely underestimated. But don't tell anyone or the prices will go up ;-)
  • 2 1
 I really dont get all this Schwalbe tires don't last stuff. I had a pair of Vert Star Magic Marys on for two lift assisted weeks in Morzine. A few torn side knobs, and the center knobs on the rear look a bit squashed, but I would say I could do at least another two weeks before the front goes to the rear and a new one goes on up front. And thats being harsh. I could most likely do another 4 weeks.
  • 1 0
 I love the Bontrager tires. I had 2 XR1s and now have a solid set of XR3 2.3 Team Issue grippers. Their tubeless sealant is better than Stan's and cheaper.
  • 2 0
 I stopped running my Schwalbe setup (HD upfront & RR in the rear) also when I was going to hit 3 sets around august. Now running Geax Goma's on my Mach 6 (2.4 on the front 2.25 on the rear) and pretty happy thus far.
  • 1 0
 Durability wise nothing even gets close to Maxxis. I just replaced an EXO Ardent on the rear after about a year, the thing must have seen nearly 8000 km. The Minion on the front still looks sort of fresh and I won't be surprised if it'll last another year.. Schwalbe is just utter tosh, knobs flying all over the place and ridiculous pricing. Other than the MMs I'm not that fond of their threads either, I have yet to find a more vague and unpredictable front tyre than the HD.
  • 2 0
 Yeah, if you have Bonty TLR tires and wheels, i guarantee you will not get them to burp tubeless, as long as you don't have ridiculously low pressure. and because of that you can run slightly lower pressure than usual without the fear of burping. they also have super strong side walls, i got a few deepish scrapes on them, but they still held their own out here in the rocky gnar. XR4's are probably one of the best tires i've ridden. definitely need to get me a G4 team issue
  • 12 1
 Someone PLEASE tell me if I am wrong but still no 27.5 Minion in the 2.5 width??? Seriously!?
  • 9 0
 There is a wire bead, DH version currently available, but no folding version yet.
  • 2 5
 They've been out for a while
  • 7 4
 They are really dropping the ball on that...need 650b exo Minions in 2.4 or 2.5 and make them available in 60a! I go through close to 800$ worth of mtb tires a year...I cant run 3c tires..they just dont hold up long enough so I'm stuck running 2.4 HR2's in 60a up front and the 2.3 HR2's in "dual" out back which actually holds up pretty well....3c minions are showing allot of wear in a week up front and a 3c DHR2 rear is totally smoked in 3 weeks..the 60a fronts last about 8weeks and I usually replace them before I really need to..
  • 3 3
 Old news tire seen it months ago lol. How long until it's available is the real question. I'm thinking Maxxis shorty 2.35 front and this rear for my enduro race rigSmile
  • 3 23
flag Rider656 (Feb 4, 2015 at 16:54) (Below Threshold)
 Minions suck.
  • 3 0
 The new TR 2.3s are pretty close in size to the undersized older 2.5. The older 2.35 was closer to a 2.1 from most other brands.
  • 3 1
 the minion 27.5 x 2.3 is about as wide as the 26 x 2.5 and i'd say as wide as the the high roller 27.5 x 2.4. it's dumb.
  • 1 0
 2.4 hr2 is way wider than a 2.3 minion.
  • 4 0
 old maxxis 2.3=new maxxis 2.25, old maxxis 2.5=new maxxis 2.4. evebody know dat. There's a little variance, but the new sizes are meant to be roughly equivalent to the old ones, just labeled more honestly.
  • 1 3
 Said no one ever.......
  • 1 0
 RM is specing a bunch of bikes with 2.3 DHFs and 2.4 ardents out back. which seemed wierd but they sure do look a similar width to my eye too. I was thinking of the 2.4 ardent, which blows compared to the 26 x 2.4 ardent of old. Just saying its weird between the same tread different wheel sizes. I like the tires enough to figure it out I wish I was riding through $800 worth of maxxis a year
  • 4 1
 @wydopen - stop doing carpark skiddies Wink

I also had the issue with 60a high rollers wearing out after a couple of hard pack / loamy rides. If I'm honest I wasn't overly impressed with high rollers. I found they're grip predictable but not inspiring. I wasn't hitting the off camber lines. And the rolling speed wasn't great either. Despite their name.

I now run black chilli contis on my dh bike (der kaiser and mud king combos) and they have lasted for a solid few months without showing much wear. I will definately get a year of riding out of them. But in the summer I might put a worn out high roller on the back because it doesn't look dissimilar to the picture in the article Wink

I recently bought a maxxis shorty 3c which is my first maxxis tyre since my high rollers. Fingers crossed it will last a lot better. It is on the front after all.
  • 1 1
 @lukachadwick the 60a highrollers last quite a while for me especially in the front...Im just limited to only Highrollers though as that's all they make in 60a...I do 4 or 5 long rides a week and each ride consists of allot of rocks and hardpack...the 3c's knobs start cracking after just a couple rides...plus I have a new rubber addiction haha

@nekmtb I think the 2.4 650b ardent is quite a bit bigger than the 2.3 minion...check my profile pic..Thats a 2.4Hr2 up front and a 2.25 Ardent in the back...the 2.3 minion is quite a bit smaller than the 2.4 HR2
  • 1 0
 yeah you are right I run the hr2 2.4 60a front and rear because they are the widest ones. and I agree there should they could have more options in the 2.4 size. it's the 2.4 ardent that i dont think really measures up I was glad when i skidded through that tire.
  • 2 0
 My 27.5 dhf 2.3 measured 2.35 proper. Still, I dream for 2.4 in same light casing.
  • 4 1
 Art's Cyclery lists actual sizes for all the tires they sell..casing and tread
  • 3 0
 Check the ETRTO numbers on the website for true widths. Old minion 2.35s are 52mm wide. New hr2 2.4s are 61 or 62mm if memory serves. schwalbe 2.35s are 60mm which is a true 2.35. I guess maxxis have finally come clean.
  • 9 1
 For like 5 years I've wanted 2.35 tire with Larson tt center and dhf corner knobs in super tacky for the rear. With a decent round profile. None of this square tire noise, some of us lean and are already killing corner knobs. I will take this in 26 please.
  • 1 0
 I think the frame in the picture is a Kona Process 167. Which is 26"...
  • 4 0
 Sorry to disappoint you @skid - that's a 27.5" Process 153 in the photo.
  • 2 0
 Thanks. Totally forgot the 153dl had green to. Hopefully just one more week for my 167 to arrive.. mmmmm
  • 1 0
 MikeKazimer@ I am guessing it's Spenser p's bike? It is amazing how good this design (Spez slaughter) works in the Pacific Northwest.
  • 8 1
 I had the Rock Razor that came on my bike, and I really disliked it because it had very little braking traction. My current rear tire is the WTB Breakout 2.3, and I love it. I definitely think that the fundamental problem with any semi-slick tire with large cornering knobs is lack of braking traction.
  • 9 0
 26" and 60a maxpro compund please
  • 7 0
 Maxxis has allready done a semi-slick high roller, i thought it was a great tyre. Would buy another if i could find one, so im looking forward to this
  • 2 0
 I loved those tires for DS and 4X!!
  • 1 0
 yeah worked really well in hard pack dirt
  • 1 0
 Yeah I really liked the high roller semi slick too, I just found the tire a bit too delicate. The ontario rocks ate them up pretty quick. Too many cuts.
  • 6 0
 I want a semi, semi slick. Give me minion side knobs with Ardent centre tread. This looks close though, and I definitely see the appeal.
  • 6 1
 Please maxxis, instaead of this tynny center knobs fill here as a larsen and... Booum!... Best rear tire ever for years longer....
  • 2 0
 Yes Larsen TT with beefier sideknobs would be the best rear tire ever...or they should just release a exo 650b larsen
  • 2 0
 Or a wider cross mark with larger side nobs.
  • 1 0
 Even just a 2.3 in exo
  • 3 0
 Try the Ardent Race? I hated the Ardent on the rear, it just always felt like the grip was shit, it didn't corner, and it didn't stop, and it wasn't particularly fast. The Race version in 3C grips better and rolls faster, not the sort of cornering grip you get from a HR2 or a Minion. But then Jared Graves smoked everyone at Buller on the weekend with an Ikon on the rear, so...
  • 1 0
 I'll run ardents in the rear occasionally mostly because they are 40$..been wanting to try an ikon but they are almost 70$ I have no problems running non tubeless ready tires tubeless and 60a is cheaper than 3c maxxspeed
  • 2 0
 You know, Larsen 2.35 Dh casing has been the most renowned rear tire for enduro in Europe for years... all pros knew... just now with modern geometries with more wheight at the rear you need more lateral knobs...
Larsen is the best cause you can´t get this fast rolling and braking power in one like this one... in steep enduros you don´t want to relay on the breaking power of the front tire so much so it´s much risky and have a big braking power at the back is a guarantee for not crashing in long runs...
  • 2 0
 Anyone ever ride the Lopes signature B;ing Bling Maxxis had out a few years ago? Was made for 4x, but was an absolutely terrific hard pack trail tire. Fast rolling and great square-edge profile for corners.
  • 2 0
 I have a Specialized slaughter that came on my new demo 8 which is basically the same thing. I still don't know what to think about using a semi-slick for DH. I guess I'll give it a try when the season starts and if it sucks, just go back to the regular high roller or minion DHR.
  • 2 0
 Tried a slaughter on an enduro. I was happy to get to try one but when we got to the trails they were all muddy and that tire was absolutely worthless in those conditions, sadly. Must be great if you live in the desert.
  • 5 0
 The tire companies must be loving this new rear semi-slick trend! KA-CHING$$$$$$$$$$
  • 2 0
 What's not that old is apparently new again as Maxxis/Schwalbe/Specialized are all basically copying Hutchinson's Piranha design idea of seven or eight years ago.... reduced centers with large edge knobs. The glory days of actual original 'semi-slicks' was 15-19 years ago after the stupid 1996 Atlanta Olympics and the mostly flat grassy park they used for the MTB race.

www.backcountry.com/hutchinson-piranha-tubeless-light-mountain-bike-tire
  • 1 0
 Oh yeah, that course. Poor Tinker. What were those green tires that were mere knurling in the centre? Michelin something-gripper.
  • 4 0
 Maxxis had something like this years ago called the Bling Bling. They should have kept it in production.
  • 2 0
 i was just gonna say... "so maxxis you mean the bling bling lopes tire?" i actually still have one Smile i like the shallow diagonally siped center knobs on the bling bling.
  • 1 0
 Great tire!
  • 1 0
 Can any one explain why having a fast rolling rear tyre and a slower rolling front tyre will make you faster? Are the fast guys manualing that much or is your rolling speed a combination of both tyres. I'm sure its a dumb question but if your front tyre won't roll well how can having a semi slick help? I have, and have had previously, the reverse set up (not through choice) and the slower tyre feels like it sets the pace.
  • 2 0
 This is just a theory based on my personal experience, so no science involved.
I´ll try to explain it using a example:

Lets say you ride a roadrace on your Nomad, and you choose to run full on slick tyres, your average speed i 30mph
Now lets say the use of a single Nobby Nic reduces your average speed by 2mph, and a Rocket Ron reduces your average speed by 1mph.
Switch your rear slick tyre with a Nobby Nic --> your average speed will now be 28mph
Now switch your front slick tyre with a Nobby Nic --> new average speed is 26mph
Switch both Nobby Nic with Rocket Rons --> your average speed will go back up to 28mph

My theory is that each tyre reduce your speed, as both tyres add rolling resistance. This way running a semi slick(Rocket Ron in the example) in the back, and a aggressive thread-pattern up front(Nooby Nic in the example), will reduce your speed less than running two agressive tyres.

Then there is the weight aspect; a semi-slick will normally be lighter than a full-on mud tyre, so by running 1 semi-slick and 1 mud tyre, you reduce the rotational weight compared to running 2 mud tyres.

With the new semi-slick that Spesh, Schwalbe and now Maxxis are offering, you don´t loose any cornering grip as the side knobs are still huge, you only sacrifice your "center-tyre-grip" - something I´m very willing to do.
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 read AllridersAgency's explanation response. it's all in there.
  • 1 0
 i bought a rock razor a while back, it is the most interesting tyres ive ever used.

when youre going in a straight line, its very smooth compared to a proper knobbly tyre, but as soon as you lean over it grips just like any other tyre, in fact i looked at the skid marks and you would not have seen the difference between the semi slick any a magic mary, because only the big side lugs were in contact of the ground

overall if was a big improvement over the high roller i had on before (maxxis people dont get pissed, it was the super cheap wire bead hard compound, its not going to compete with a SG razor)


having gone through the experience of having a fancy rear tyre, id say spend all your money on a front tyre and just swap it to the back whenever it wears too low, and then put a fresh tyre on the front!
  • 1 0
 Just ride your old rear tire alot and the middle knobs will wear down so much faster then the side ones. I have a semi slick rear high roller that has about 1000 miles on it but still grips like mad in corners and off camber shit Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Ok...I'm not a huge fan of semi slicks ....too many close calls. .. at speed....not hauling but a good clip and you need to make a sudden turn.. soon as you hit the knobby part of the tire there's a sudden change in traction... better/worse. ..a big change isn't what ya want.

I had a "close one" when riding Moab...semi slick tire washed out when I made an abrupt turn on dry sandy stuff along with some hidden slick rock...could have been a costly error if it weren't for my cat like reflexes. ...Moab's sorta an easy trail system but if you F up...you're dead.
  • 1 0
 " now it looks like Maxxis is getting ready to join the fray"

Mike, since you're new to mountain biking, you should know Maxxis had the HR SS about decade ago. ;-)
(Can still find them on Dunbar too! Albeit in that antiquated 26" size we used before your time)
  • 2 0
 @atrokz, you must not have read the first line, where I wrote, "Semi-slick tires aren't a new concept in mountain biking..."
  • 1 0
 " now it looks like Maxxis is getting ready to re-join the fray"

FTFY

Teehee (I'm just teasing, because you probably owned a pair of HRSS's at some point)

That said, how did you find the transition to side lugs? With the HRSS the lugs were fairly low so it felt similar to a HR worn a bit, but these look a lot taller, so curious to know how it feels. Regardless it's been a long time coming for us who ride harder packed trails.
  • 2 0
 Looks a bit more round too, could be a winner. Rock Razor center knobs blow up in about 5 minutes though, would like to see the centers a bit larger than those if possible.
  • 3 3
 THANK GOD...I've literally been emailing them for months asking for this tire..well I actually suggested larsen tt center knobs but close enough....PLEASE also make a 650b Minion in 2.4 or 2.5 and 60a for all tread patterns!!!!!
  • 4 0
 Double minion dhf nuff said
  • 1 0
 To differentiate from the Rock Razor and Slaughter, they might take this as an opportunity to develop it for the wider ID rims becoming ever more popular. Less of a mohawk like pattern once mounted on wider ID rims.
  • 1 0
 I cant wait for this tire, I find many current models are too aggressive for no reason. The middle knobs remind me of the Maxxis Mimo, one of the fastest tires I've ever had. I tried one then bought three more.
  • 2 0
 where can i place my order?
I want it in super tacky UST 2.2 please and also send me some minion dhf super tacky UST 2.4 for upfront!
my CC is... oh maybe not here...
  • 10 7
 Bet they won't do it in 26"
  • 8 4
 Of course they aren't. Did you not see the phrase enduro racing in the article? Oooh 27.5. Whoopdy shit. Does 1.5 inches really make that much of a difference on a wheel.
  • 2 5
 If everyone is racing the 7.2L V8 you probably shouldnt stick with the 6.5L. Recreational use... run whatever.
  • 4 0
 I only have a 26" for DH. My trail rig is a 29er. Razz Might get one for fonatana if they make a 26x2.5 or 2.3. See how it does on the "dirt" out there.
  • 1 0
 @Bronco82 - FWIW 650b isn't actually 27.5".
  • 2 0
 Ok, so it's a 0.9 inch difference at the rim. Same principal you party pooper. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 650b is actually 27.2* somehting if im not mistaken...
  • 3 0
 About time. Been waiting for Maxxis to bring this style tire back.
  • 1 0
 Looks good. Hope the weight of the 2.35 version is more like the Rock Razor, less like the Slaughter. Kinda doesn't look that way though from the pics.
  • 1 0
 Well its funny I was about to look in for some new tires to replace my worn out Minions and then I saw this.... might consider this.
  • 3 0
 How the hell is everyone such an expert on tires?
  • 1 0
 everyone's got their knobs in the dirt!
  • 1 0
 So now does this mean all of the DHFs that I throw out cause they are missing tread can be re sold as a semi slick? Free tires for life!
  • 1 0
 Great! I'll was planning on ditching HR2s for wider but faster Ardents, but now I'll probably wait and run a Minion combo. Very cool.
  • 3 0
 Whers my PROCORE?!?!???
PRO-CORE!!
PRO-CORE!!!
PRO_CORE!!!
  • 3 0
 looks promising
  • 2 0
 I love these spy (marketing) shots! Very slick.
  • 2 1
 So, Basically a Specialized Slaughter...much like the Specialized BUtcher is a MAxxis Minion I guezz.
  • 3 0
 And much like the Specy Slaughter is a Schwalbe Rock Razor....
  • 1 0
 True story.
  • 1 0
 Careful, if you keep thinking like that, your head might get sucked into a Tirenado!!
  • 2 0
 But can I get in with burberry sidewall to match my enduro sash?
  • 2 0
 Side knobs look wider apart than other Minions. Bueno.
  • 2 0
 First the shoshorty and now this.
#maxxiswannabeschwalbe
  • 1 0
 Big Q. Will be if maxxis gets on board w/wide rim compatibility! Hopefully most will be by euro bike.
  • 2 0
 @rb716 about 4 years too late...
  • 1 0
 If we could dig up a photo of your old rear tire, you might be in line for some royalty checks!
  • 1 0
 Guys...tyre dimensions for various manufacturers listed here

www.reifenbreiten-datenbank.de

Fill your boots!
  • 1 0
 Should read 'Real World' tyre dimensions.
  • 1 0
 Put them on a wide rim and boom! You've got a square, knobby tire that doesn't corner for shit.
  • 1 0
 Side knobs on a fast rolling tire. How novel. We need a 2.1 Slaughter. Or BBGs in a 29er.
  • 1 0
 hahahahaha PMB tires on the market now ..... whatever
  • 1 0
 Fast rolling, Cornering beast.
*short lifespan.
  • 1 1
 I would like some front and rear. I loved the lopes bling bling duals and these look even better.
  • 2 3
 not to put it in a bad way i love new tyre designs but haven't Schwalbe have a tyre rock razzor? which is near similar to this design?
  • 4 1
 Maxxis has had semi slick designs for close to 20years now..just not lately..
  • 1 1
 Maxxis is swinging on the nuts of the Specialized Slaughter. How about a new tire design. Not a knock off of another brands.
  • 3 0
 Well that is true, but like I said most of spesh's tires are almost exact copies of Maxxis tires..an eye for an eye.
  • 1 0
 I think thats the carbon process 153 the tire is on
  • 1 0
 Those side nobbs look way to spaced out for dry use
  • 1 0
 I think I see what you are saying. For hardpack that might not be the best. I think for dry loose blown out dirt, it might be better.
  • 1 0
 Think it'll break the $100 mark ?
  • 1 0
 will they call it the Bling Bling 2?
  • 1 0
 Seriously, they should just bring back the Lopes Bling Bling. With a well spaced row of 2 square and siped low profile centre knobs, it was where the Minion DHF sideknobs first appeared. Bling-duro?
  • 1 0
 I'll buy it. Make it long lasting tread. Include 26".
  • 1 0
 Clone of Schwalbe Rock Razor?))
  • 1 0
 I have a semi.. *chortle*
  • 1 0
 didn´t they in the past already had an high roller semi-slick?
  • 1 0
 High roller 3 or minion slick?
  • 1 0
 26"-version and I'm all in.
  • 1 0
 my season old minion looks just like that.
  • 1 0
 Make one with the HR2 side knobs and I'm in.
  • 1 0
 I feel like you'd have to run DHRII or DHF up front to keep it from pushing in corners. HR2 sideknobs just the right size so you could have more front tire options.
  • 2 1
 SEXY
  • 3 2
 holy meh
  • 1 0
 Balls
  • 1 2
 Ridiculus thing .... You need grip in Enduro /DH
  • 6 0
 wrong. you only need the spirit of enduro and huge balls
  • 1 0
 depends on where you ride...
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