Spotted: Prototype Norco High Pivot DH Bike

Jul 29, 2022 at 11:15
by Mike Kazimer  
The silver steed was spotted at Snowshoe.

Norco doesn't currently have a dedicated DH bike in their lineup (there wasn't a 2022 version of the Aurum HSP), but it looks like changes might be on the way. Aluminum test mules have been spotted at the Whistler Bike Park and the Snowshoe World Cup bristling with data acquisition equipment and shock coverings to keep prying eyes at bay.

Up until this point Norco's team members have been using a modified Range that has a different shock link to bump the rear travel to 200mm, up from the stock 170mm configuration. Realistically, the geometry numbers on the current Range are pretty much in line with what's found on many modern DH bikes, so using the frame for double duty isn't as much of a stretch as what we've seen from other companies in the past.

Photo: Eric Chernushenko

Still, a frame that's fully designed for DH racing and riding can be optimized for the single purpose of going downhill as fast as possible, and I'd imagine that's what Norco are working on. The aluminum prototype looks to have a similar inverted high-pivot suspension layout, although the pivot at the front of the chainstay is in a different location than it is on the Range.

The frame also looks more refined than the crazy-looking mule that was used during the development of the Range - that frame had loads of geometry adjustments, and a headtube that was the size of a tin can. There don't appear to be as many adjustments on this frame, although the replaceable dropouts would make it easy to experiment with different chainstay lengths. Personally, I'd love it if Norco came out with an alloy high-pivot DH bike, but we'll just have to wait and see.

According to Norco, "The bike is a one-off, highly adjustable aluminum Norco DH test platform that allows for isolated tuning and testing of almost every geo and kinematic aspect of the bike so we can engineer and learn in real time.

Last year, Norco added Kirk McDowall to our engineering team because of his combined engineering experience and perspective as an Elite-level DH-racer. This gives us an incredibly powerful technical feedback loop right from the get-go. Kirk will be doing live race weekend testing on the bike in Snowshoe and Mont Sainte Anne, and possibly the Canadian Open."


The mule that was used for the development of the current Norco Range enduro bike.



84 Comments

  • 114 4
 That’s the new “Norco Narco” model — it’s disguised as a prototype but holds 5-10kg of narcotics (with low center of gravity) under that cover. Ever wonder why they test at Vedder Mountain, next to the US border?!
  • 60 6
 In all seriousness though, my comment was inspired by being approached by a VERY wealthy Whistler resident / narco who said he wanted to “sponsor” our bike racing team after watching our team riders dominate most of the competition at the first Whistler Joyride Bikercross race in 1999 (under the Fitzsimmons chair in what is now The Boneyard).

In exchange for a “full ride” sponsorship of about $30,000 USD per rider per year (new bikes, travel, gear, etc), he said he’d have us up to Whistler monthly from Washington for riding, training, snowboarding, partying at his ski lodge, etc. A few weeks later, while negotiating the terms of the sponsorship, he revealed he wanted all of us team riders to ride narcotics across the border, monthly. My team manager gave him a, “Thanks for the offer, but no, and don’t ever contact any of us again.” Pretty sketchy stuff!

It was quite a scene back then, when downhill MTB was still a semi-fringe “extreme” sport, a sort of freak-show spectacle to tourists at Whistler (with the loud double-blade helicopter filming us attracting thousands of uninitiated tourists to the race). That was the tail-end of the 90’s extreme sports craze, when ESPN, ESPN2, and other TV channels would feature downhill races in prime time. I did that Joyride Bikercross event from 1999 to 2001 before it became Crankworx in about 2003 or 2004, qualifying #1 and finishing 5th or 6th in 2000, just after turning pro and graduating from high school (quite a weekend that was...part of the reason we still refer to Whistler as “Vegas North”).

And then in 2001, they put me on the cover of a calendar (which I discovered at at Chapters bookstore while on a date in downtown Vancouver BC...the gal thought I was lying until I bought 10 of them). Fun times at Whistler — we owe that place a lot, in terms of how it’s benefitted many aspects our sport. Here’s the calendar shot. Just call my Coverboy. Or Mr July. =P
www.pinkbike.com/photo/20234330/?s6

And the 2000 Whistler Joyride Bikercross with massive high speed Crabapple-Hits-size jump (60 feet lip-to-landing-spot at race pace):
www.pinkbike.com/photo/20234331/?s4

Making Andrew Shandro work in the dual slalom, Whistler Joyride, 2000:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/20234332/?s4
  • 7 0
 @WRCDH: RIP Sam Brown, maybe he took your job offer.
  • 4 0
 I'll take two....every 4-6 hrs
  • 5 0
 @bikebasher: Whoa, I never heard about that! Similar to Missy Giove’s story, in a way.
www.pinkbike.com/news/cbc-sam-brown-2009.html
  • 10 2
 @WRCDH: This should be a 15 min guest segment on the PB podcast. I'm gonna ask Levy. HEY @mikelevy...You hear this?
  • 8 0
 @WRCDH: Brings back some rad/hazy memories of early Whis-gnar -- thanks!

I still remember that guy who sold weed on A-line, the clanking clatter of the Norco rental fleet echoing across the valley like a million shopping carts full of hammers, and drunken bike-jousting on the golf course being chased by the mounties.
  • 2 0
 @geephlow: Oh wow, so that A-Line guy WASN’T Whistler urban legend! LOL, all that made me smile!
  • 2 0
 @geephlow: The rental fleet comment is GOLD. Well done sir.
  • 1 0
 @bikebasher: shots fired :-*
  • 1 0
 I mean, if you believe Gary Fisher et al, MTB was invented by dudes who needed a way to transport drugs down the mountains in California.
  • 2 0
 @WRCDH: Say hello to my little friend… an Intense M16!
BAM!
BAM!
BAM!
  • 37 4
 Most might think the gaffer tape like cover is hiding some bizarre new 10 bar suspension layout or some telemetry gizmo, but I got word on the streets thats its actually norco is testing out a new displine dh/bikepacking rig. Nothing holds better than duct taping all your belongings to the frame.
  • 52 2
 Push up the hill for a day, camp overnight, and then bomb back down the next. I can dig it.
  • 71 0
 @mikekazimer: Are you passing up the opportunity to invent a new category of Downpacking?
  • 5 0
 if you can't fix it using only a hammer and duct tape, it's a shit engineered product.
  • 10 0
 @baca262: if it can't be ducted, is has to be fucted
  • 1 1
 @mikekazimer: up country!
  • 15 0
 If your ever wanted to know the true definition of a Sisyphean task, that first photo is it
  • 4 0
 what? you don't wash your car on rainy days? cuts down on the pre-rinse time
  • 2 0
 I'd just leave my bike outside and grab a beer whilst it's being "washed"
  • 2 0
 @korev: Some nice people from over the border would agree with you
  • 7 0
 Give ‘‘em hell on it Kirk!
  • 7 1
 “Norco doesn’t have a dedicated DH bike” ? My Aurum HSP begs to differ.
  • 6 0
 Didn't you know? The Aurum is a xc bike
  • 1 0
 They don't make that anymore, do they?
  • 12 1
 They've definitely had DH bikes in the past, but the Aurum is due for an update and I don't think there was a 2022 model.
  • 4 1
 @mikekazimer: Yes, but they are still selling them and are still listed on the Norco website
  • 2 0
 @csmtb99: HSP is done.
  • 1 0
 That was confusing. Didn’t Blenki help develop that DH bike over a few years? I remember coverage here in PB.
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: Its still surprising to me that they would put their DH team on a jury rigged enduro bike rather than just have them ride the old DH frame.
  • 1 0
 Was suprised to see no 2022 model - the Aurum was one of the most numerous bikes in one of the recent PB bike-checks @ Whistler this year (I think) but...maybe that's just a small # overall (?)
  • 1 0
 The Range is basically a DH bike. It’s heavier than most DH bikes already though I’m curious what the trade offs are in the leverage curve for the DH setup.
  • 1 0
 @samnation: the old 650b Aurum was better, it had far better race results and almost won a race but he flatted, Joe Smith i think at ft bill just out of the woods.
  • 1 0
 @sino428: no prizes for guessing which one works better
  • 3 0
 I think the cover is just to f*ck with Pinkers. From what can be seen it's pretty easy to determine it's going to look a lot like the Range: "inverted horst" with bb-centric linkage. You can even see the end of a shock connected to the top of the linkage. It's probably got a huge range of forward shock mounts for testing leverages and they didn't want everyone thinking it's going to be a puzzler's wet dream.
  • 4 0
 norco please make an alloy version so racing dh on a fast bike doesn't have to break the bank.
  • 1 0
 please!
  • 2 2
 "dedicated to DH racing and riding can be optimized for the single purpose of going downhill as fast as possible"

I wonder what the actual geo is of the norco Range is with a DH setup. If it doesn't modify it too much from the stock verison, I have a hard time seeing what needs to be changed for DH racing.
  • 3 0
 I’m willing to bet that we are seeing a mule for an alu version of the DH bike.
Sooo many alu Norco Aurums are rental bikes, and with that gone, there’s a bit of a hole in the line up. Norco has always had an affordable alu DH bike (A-line, alu Aurum) so that’s likely what this is.’
Prolly a similar sus design to the Range, but will be heavier..
  • 2 0
 @onawalk: Actually that makes tons of sense
  • 1 0
 I get that its used to hide the prototype setup...but has anyone considered bike smocks like that to keep the shock and pivot points nice an clean on sloppy days like this?
  • 4 0
 Probly in the 90s
  • 1 0
 @dkendy1: lol, so true
  • 1 0
 Your shock doesn't know whether it's getting hit with fresh dirt vs. hit with dirt that's contained inside a nylon bag, it's still going to cause wear and tear.

Most of those types of things (yes from the 90's LOL, they were available for brakes, headsets, shocks, etc.) just held dirt and grit in, rather than having no cover but letting it get flushed away naturally.
  • 2 0
 Does that headtube have an integrated app, so I can adjust it on the fly?
  • 3 0
 Kirk invented it.
  • 2 4
 "Norco doesn't currently have a dedicated DH bike in their lineup (there wasn't a 2022 version of the Aurum HSP)"

Sure they do, it just doesn't have a 2022 model year attached. 2021 Aurum is still listed, and looks like frames are in stock even.
  • 2 0
 KEEP THE BOTTLE CAGE MOUNTS
  • 2 0
 Looks like it performed pretty well.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a sweet ride. When can I order one?
  • 4 0
 review coming tomorrow, stay tuned
  • 1 0
 Check out the floating brake mount.
  • 1 1
 What are they trying to hide on these DH bikes-drug paraphernalia and marital aids??
  • 1 0
 Lal drivetrain please
  • 1 0
 Trinity MTB’s prototype drivetrain looks much more compact and thought-out than Lal’s one. Smile
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: excellent where can i see this?
  • 1 0
 @BenDonoghuePhotography: new company, a joint venture between WRP and 2 other guys (hence the Trinity name, i guess Big Grin ). Check them in Instagram (although they have a website). It’s a new frame soon to be released for sale, i could probably best describe it as a metal Norco Range high-pivot, with removable BB (so possible to have normal drivetrain, a gearbox, or their prototype solution), possibility for custom geo and different length shocks. Smile
  • 7 7
 Looks like a Forbidden
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