YT's much-heralded Capra has undergone an extensive revision for 2018, reemerging with more travel, increased standover clearance, and an updated suspension layout. But that's not all – a 29”-wheeled model has been added into the mix, with up to 170mm of travel. The bike has morphed from an all-mountain machine into something even more formidable, although YT took steps to make sure that it could still be pedaled back up to the top for another run.
In addition to being able to choose between two wheel sizes, there will both carbon and aluminum versions of the new Capra, with prices ranging from $2,500 to $3,000 USD for the alloy models, and from $3,700 to $5,200 for the full carbon models.
YT Capra Details• Intended use: enduro / freeride / DH
• Wheel size: 27.5" or 29"
• Rear wheel travel: 170 or 160mm (29"), 180 or 170mm (27.5")
• Aluminum and carbon frame options
• Boost hub spacing
• PF92 bottom bracket
• Sizes: S - XXL (27.5"), M-XXL (29")
• Price: $2,500 - $5,200 USD
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www.yt-industries.com Frame Details In addition to the increased travel, and the addition of a 29" version, the Capra frame received a number of other significant updates. The derailleur, brake, and dropper post housing are all now hidden inside the frame, where there are tubes to prevent it from rattling around and causing an unwanted ruckus. Previously, all Capra models had alloy chainstays, but the carbon frames now have carbon chainstays. There's a chainstay protector to keep chainslap to a minimum, and a color-matched frame protector on the downtube to ward off rock strikes.
Wait, How Much Travel Does the New Capra Have? It seems like a very straightforward question, but the answer is, “It depends.” The first factor is what wheel size you're referring to. The Capra 29 CF Pro Race uses a 230x65mm shock to deliver 170mm of rear travel, making it one of the longest travel 29ers currently on the market. The other 29” models use a 230 x 60mm shock, which results in 160mm of rear travel.
For the 27.5” models, the Capra 27 CF Pro Race has 180mm of travel, while the remaining models have 170mm of travel, again due to the use of a slightly shorter stroke shock.
Capra 27 CF Pro Race Geometry
Capra 29 CF Pro Race Geometry
Geometry Changes Even after four years on the market the Capra's geometry was still fairly up-to-date, but there were a few areas that were in need of some modification. The first was the reach, which has been increased by 12-15mm on all sizes. An XXL size has also been added in for both wheel sizes – sizes run from S-XXL for the 27.5” bike, and from M-XXL for the 29er. The largest two sizes also get slightly longer chainstays than their smaller counterparts in order to preserve the balance of the bike, a tactic that we're seeing more and more companies begin to adopt.
Both bikes have head angles around the 65-degree mark, although the 29er does have a flip chip that can be used to steepen things up by half a degree. That flip chip is the easiest way to tell which wheel size a bike has – from a distance it's tricky to tell the difference between the 27.5” and 29” models.
What Size Should I Ride? The new Capra has a low enough standover height and seat tube length that riders should be able to fit on multiple sizes – it's more a matter of picking the reach number that you feel comfortable with rather than being forced into one pre-determined size. At 5'11” I was able to fit both the size large and the extra large 29er without running into any issues, although I'd probably choose the large for my riding style and typical trails.
Suspension Updates The Capra still uses a Horst Link suspension design (YT call it Virtual 4 Link), but the rocker link position now takes a cue from the Jeffsy's playbook and extends behind the seat tube. YT also took steps to create a lower leverage ratio – according to Stefan Willard, YT's CTO, that lower ratio allows riders to run less pressure and creates a more sensitive beginning stroke. The amount of end-stroke ramp-up has also been reduced by approximately 8% to allow riders to make the most out of the available travel. Want that 8% back? There's room to add in volume spacers to the rear shock in order to fine-tune the amount of ramp up.
Can I Run a Dual Crown Fork? With all that travel, questions about running a dual crown fork will inevitably come up. After all, just imagine what that 170mm 29er would look like with a 180mm dual crown up front... The good news is that YT was thinking ahead, and the frames are dual crown compatible - they tested them to the same standards as their Tues downhill bike. There's an area of reinforced carbon on each side of the headtube that's designed to withstand the impacts that can occur when fork bumpers hit the frame.
There's a heavy dose of e*thirteen's cassettes, tires, and wheels throughout the lineup.
Frame Options / Build Kits The Capra's paint scheme and general parts spec are the same for both wheel sizes, although the 27.5" version of the CF Pro comes with a Fox Float X2, while the 29" version has a Fox DPX2. One interesting spec choice is the decision to pair a Shimano rear derailleur with e*thirteen's 9-46 tooth 11-speed cassette for the entire lineup - there's no SRAM Eagle to be seen.
I've been spending a lot of my time on 29ers lately, so I snagged the big wheeled Capra for two days of riding under the California sun, a welcome respite from the heavy rain that was falling on my home trails in Washington.
The first day's ride consisted of a mix of rocky, chunky, higher speed portions of trail, interspersed with steeper, smoother bits of twisty singletrack. The Capra has a definite need for speed, and it felt like I was only scratching the surface of its potential – I can see it being extremely well suited to bike park usage, or anywhere with room to really let it run. That's not to say it can't handle tighter, slower speed sections of trail – it can – it's just that you get the feeling that it's straining at the reins on mellower terrain.
A trip to SkyPark at Santa's Village was the next day's destination, a smattering of flowy trails that begin and end in a North Pole-themed park located in the San Bernardino National Forest. I typically associate bike parks with chairlifts, but this particular park is a little different (to say the least), and returning to the top after a lap requires a meandering, smooth pedal up a designated climbing trail. The Capra pedals well with the shock fully open, especially for a bike with 170mm of travel, but I still found myself flipping the Float X2's blue dial into the firmer mode to firm things up a little. Spinning up that smooth grade was the only real climbing I got in aboard the Capra; until I spend some more time on one I can't really comment on how it handles on more challenging ascents.
The trails at SkyPark weren't overly technical or steep, but there were enough fun-sized jumps and berms to stay entertained for a few hours. The new Capra hasn't lost anything in the jumping department – there's a supportive platform to push into for that extra 'pop' off the lip of a jump, and a nice ramp up when it comes time to come in for a landing. Yes, it's a big bike, but it has an energetic nature that makes it an entertaining ride even when the trail isn't completely full of wheel-swallowing holes and giant boulders. Of course, the typical caveat that accompanies any sort of 'first ride' applies here as well - two days on the Capra wasn't nearly enough to really dive into the nuances of its handling; stay tuned for a long-term review later this year once we put some rougher and rowdier miles in on one.
Call it what you will - freeride, park, mini-DH, Super Enduro - but no matter the name, it seems as if a resurgence of longer travel mountain bikes is underway. For riders who regularly find themselves seeking out gnarly, technical trails, and who alternate between riding chairlifts, shuttling, and pedaling, the return of the long travel trail smasher will be a welcome one.
Jeeezzz get a live man... ffs...
Buy some standard Rocker frame of the 1000's of other "look like a session" brands... Good luck with that!
If you run a pack you sweat significantly more than without a pack. Ultimately, in warm weather, you have to run a pack just to make up for the sweat lost from wearing a pack.
If you ride fast you would know a major factor in extended physical performance is removal of heat from the body and dehydration. Wearing a pack is a disaster for both. It's fine if you're plodding about the forest for a couple of hours but if you're doing a summer Enduro, wearing a pack is a significant disadvantage to someone who doesn't have to.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jth4yATniS4
@bananowy: Doesn't matter, damage is aready done with the layers of material alone. The weight of the pack (in the worst place possible) is one issue but the heat build up/sweat on hot rides in worse.
Extended physical performance? Most likely given that sentence, 1 water bottle isn't going to suffice to hydrate you for an extended amount of time.
Most every enduro I've been to, there is water at the bottom, sometimes the start gate. Your request for a water bottle mount at an enduro is kinda pointless.
In the end, just stuff it in the back of your pants. DH racers have done it since the beginning.
Sure you can just plod about and keep effort/heat down but personality that bores the piss out of me.
If you're serious about riding, you seriously wouldn't want weight on your back regardless of how much it will make you sweat.
Seriously.
Anyway let's not turn this into a one-trick dead horse. The short rear centre would put me off before I even get to the lack of hydration carrying ability.
Try a month without. You'll never go back. Seriously.
In your opinion - are there any mtbs that suit you? You seem knowledgeable about geometry/kinematics/etc - but I never read where you like a bike. I can't ever remember a bike that ticked all the boxes for you. I mean it must be difficult for you to purchase a bike. Or is it?
Do any have the specifications and geometry that you like? If you don't mind, what do you ride most of the time?
Like I said, I'm not being a jackass. I'm curious.
My complaints are generally about the fundamentals and the piss poor R&D from most bike manufacturers. For example, sizing and geo is critical yet how bikes ride yet how many 10k bike on the market are there that have the same rear centre length for all sizes when the front centre differs by around 70mm? That sort of crap.
That said some bike brands push concepts and are braver than others (like Mondraker) but overall we're being drip fed the geo and concepts that Chris Porter etc worked out years ago.
I don't think any of these current AM bikes from large brands are the holy grail but they're ones I think have good attributes. Orbea Rallon (geo/44mm offset) Scott Genius (geo/construction/weight), Transition Sentinel (geo), Giant Reign (geo apart from seat angle disaster).
They're all too short in the rear centre IMO. The G13 Geometron is at least 10mm longer RC in the small/medium sizes and 16mm in the large.
I ride a 18 Enduro 29. Rear centre is 10mm too short and the leverage rate is not progressive enough. I can just get away with it as I'm 66kg but if you're a bigger guy forget it. That's why the team all have custom links and shock valving. That said the packaging is very clever. Once you've lived with the SWAT storage it's hard to go back. Bit like a bottle cage really!
Last time I was helping a guy fix his flat instead of a 3 mile hike out, comments about how it was his third time flatting without a tube. I just rolled my eyes.
I remember graeves on the yeti rode always with a pack because he carried enough stuff to get him out of a pinch if something happened. Of course a yeti didn't have a water bottle mount either.
I think this Capra is moving in the right direction anyway. I'm also interested in knowing if either size is using a reduced offset fork.
Thanks for the reply.
Offsets are mentioned on each model on the YT website, click the little plus to expand the fork info.
Because tap water is so toxic that it's even making the frogs gay. It's so bad that I now infuse my baths with Super Male Vitality™ supplements.
By using bottled water we are BREAKING THE CONDITIONING and rebelling against the soros-funded anti-fa globalist deep-state operatives. It's obvious!
The earth is spare part of the moon, hit the Capra, boom.
@zelkova: I dont vote bro..
a 170mm 29er. PARK BIKE! weird that they ship them with a dropper. kinda pointless
www.twenty20.com/photos/7c11d2bf-51fc-4ad3-865a-238251f595a6
You wouldn't spend too much
Also, I went and compared the geo numbers between the bikes and they are remarkably similar except in WB and STA where YT is longer and steeper. Ill feel like a traitor turning my back on my local brand but damn is this a deal and a great looking bike.
#dropyourpricesevil....
That's why I said, if you are going this route, you need to have a backup plan, because there's a very good chance of being without your bike for a long period of time. When you choose a brand that's has a local dealer network, or is at least on the same continent, you are generally back on the trail within a few days. My extensive experience with Specialized has been that they get you back on the trail within 24 hours. THAT'S why you pay more.
Good shops that carry big brands can absolutely get you back on the trail in 24 hours. Or less. I know the big spec shop in my area can hand you a replacement frame on the spot if they have one...I know of more than one instance of exactly that happening...when they don't have it, and your claim is approved (which the good shops can also do without having to call Specialized), you will have a replacement in no more than 48 hours.
So yes, I know there's a big discrepancy between some shops, but obviously if a brand doesn't have shops at all, there's zero chance of that kind of experience.
But yeah, in 29" it's even more rare ..
Also the Mega 290 comes in comp, pro and factory spec while the alloy 650 is just comp and pro, the factory spec is carbon only.
If you want a superbike buy one, if you want some value for money then you may as well buy aluminium with components that also represent good value for money.
New bikes look dialed, seems they read and respond to complaints. Longer, lower, XXL, short seat tube, standover, 29er, internal cables w/ guides, no cables under the bb, boost, not giving into the giant heavy eagle cassette fad, aluminum, proper dh brakes, XTR, price... and still nothing but complaints lol. I envision all of you with two 32 oz water bottles inside your frame and a threaded bb tool in your back pocket pedaling your 180mm bike 25 miles from your truck on a fire road haha.
Weirdly I would rather not have a bottle on my bike as it makes my bike heavier. COG is better but the bike feels more lively without it.
Boost is also a PITA but it is the way things are going so cest la vie on that one.
I know a lot of peeps riding PF and I hear no complaints the last 3 years...
Only thing I had was rust in the bearings (seals), I replaced with ceramic, never any prob anymore...
It is a good looking bike though but probably overkill for my local riding but you can't argue with the price.
completely agree. It's a 30mm axle and a pf/bb92 thats the problem. Can't get one with decent water proofing or ball bearings. And its not good for the frame to be knocking bearings in and out every few months. 24mm no problems as long a the frames well made so no creaking.
I won't buy another pf bike regardless of what axle my crank is. It's just not worth it. Threaded with ceramic bearings are a guaranteed easy reliable life for years.
I'll never buy a bike with PressFit BB because then your BB is the weak link just waiting to develop problems down the road.
Can't find a shimano bb92 with 30mm Axle. Have you got a link?
Genuinely Confused as Iv tried every thing but never come across a shimano pf/bb92 30mm.
Weird.
(throws leg over Jeffsy 27 and rides off)
Think I'll just keep my 2017 for now and wait for something else. The longer reach would be nice though.
What trouble have you had with PF? I've none...
Reach I agree... for the rest perfect bike the 2017 indeed...
Just found the e-13 stuff takes a lot more time to maintain to keep it running good.
Well I dunno what you do with your bike but shifting is perfect with the casette, you might wanna adjust your derailleur...
The tires well that is perdonal, I like them... also have minions on other wheelset...
BB change the bearings for ceramic, it is a problem with water coming in through the seals... maybe also cause you dont dry it well after a ride...
I dont agree on the maintenance... but hey it's all personal...
That's how they pay Gwin and Lacondeguy's wages
????
Who knows. It would be interesting to get to go to Taipei and see how things work over the course of a year.
For anyone who is interested, the spellings are the same for both meanings. American is mold for both. UK English is mould for both.
longer reach, shorter seat tube, steep seat angle (sort of) and longer chainstay for bigger frame sizes. Even the cheapest option has Lyrik, Code brakes, Super Deluxe and 9-46t cassette.
*only downsize is the missing bottle cage for some.
On that note though, most of my rides are 1-2 hours. Tubeless rarely gets flats. I find I hardly ever need a tool so water is all that remains. Im not carrying a pack for 1l of water so bottles work fine. On a bigger day out, packs all the way. It makes me laugh when I go to my local trail centre for a quick spin and people are packed to the max. Why? Phone, car key, bottle. Job done.
If a water bottle is that important to you, this bike is not for you. period.
Or is this the 2019 model? Am I getting ahead of myself?
Wait... oh no.... NO YOU DIDN'T YT! YOU GODDAMN MONSTERS!
AN INTERNALLY ROUTED REAR BRAKE LINE?!?!?!&$**&@#??!?!
HELL NO. KILL IT WITH FIRE!
Internally routed brake line. Why the hate?
You either buy a bike with brakes already installed - no routing needed.
Or upgrade new brakes - route once, cut to length, close, bleed. Ride.
It isn't like these things are getting replaced every month due to wearing out...
If you ever need to install a brake, then you need to bleed it. If you ever need to pull the brakes to do maintenance, like cleaning the caliper or lubing the pistons, then you need to bleed it. If your friend from across the pond who is used to moto-style levers is borrowing the bike, then you need to bleed it.
Most importantly, if you ever have one of those "oh shit" moments, and need to swap brakes between bikes, you need to bleed it. When you fix things and swap back, you need to bleed it.
I've done all of these things on my bike in the past year. That's five extra bleeds that are totally unnecessary, solely in the name of aesthetics. Maybe on a road bike where fashion and aero is king, it would be acceptable. But mountain bikes, if you're riding them properly, require a lot of maintenance. Making that maintenance as easy as possible should be a design priority.
Most of your argument is completely unrelated to replacing the actual hydraulic line.
The guy from across the pond, well, he can suffer for a borrowed ride. And swapping lever position should only require a bleed, not a re-cable.
For cleaning the caliper, again, not necessary to remove the hydraulic line. Just pull the caliper.
Yes, re-bleeding is necessary, but not that big of a deal if it is something you do frequently.
I think that a lot of this pain would be gone if the industry just designed proper master cylinders. The closed system that bikes use is a joke. I can't believe how ridiculous it is. Push pull push pull, then pull push, then whatever. its overly complicated due to the closed nature of the system. A small reservoir would eliminate all of this. If nothing else, a large enough injection tool for the master that would allow you to properly crack and pump the circuit to replace fluid.
Friend from across the pond is a hazard to everyone involved without the brake lines swapped, and if you look closely at the way these lines are routed you will have a bad time trying to swap them with their current side-specific routing.
Cleaning the caliper- yes, this is exactly my point, you have now added an otherwise unnecessary bleed to the process. Is it a big deal? Not really, but it is annoying as hell if all you want to do is resolve a sticky brake issue.
And yes, I agree completely on the stupid closed cylinder design. One of the many reasons I have gone Hope for everything- no stupid syringes or "bleed tools". Just a baggie, a box wrench, and a bottle of DOT. Pour from the top, drain from the bottom, perfect results every time.
But there are alot of times i ride trails that are flatter and really fun on the trail bike which wouldn't be fun on anything bigger as it would feel sluggish and slow but if i didn't have the DH bike i would feel my trail bike would need to be bigger like the 160/170 enduro bikes (capra) so that i can still ride loose DH tracks without missing my DH bike but that would make the more chilled rides much less fun.
I also have a carbon hardtail that gets out of its depth quickly but its so much fun and fast on smoother stuff that would just be boring on a trail bike, the right tool for the job definitely wins but it is wonderful that we have bikes capable of doing it all to a reasonable degree.
Though it would be nice if the XXL came with 175mm cranks and a 175mm dropper. Two fewer things to have to customize.
let me tell You a story about my experience with YT-Industries and why now I tell all my friends to never, ever buy a bike from them....
1. It all started on 18.04.2018 when I ordered a bike online. It said they would get in touch with me in 2 days. Which they didn't.
2. They sent the bike to a different address than they said they would... (quite annoying when you're waiting for a bike at one place for a whole day just to find out it was sent elsewhere.)
3. After getting my new bike I found out the rebound adjustment on the shock didn't work. Contacted YT. Got an information I should send my shock without any mounting hardware. But there were two black tubes I couldn't remove from the shock. Sent an email asking if it was OK to send the shock with them. ....and I had to wait A WHOLE WEEK to get a reply to such a simple question...
4. After receiving my shock they sent me an email saying that they are going to contact me when the package is ready to be sent back to Poland. Which they didn't and sent it right away. I was on vacation at that time and had trouble rerouteing the package to my workplace so it wouldn't go back to Germany. Really annoying...
5. After coming back from my vacation I got to work to open the package from YT just to find out they sent me different shock... Which I had to send back
6. Then they sent my shock making a mistake in my address so I had to drive across the city to pick it up myself from DHL.
7. When I opened the package I found out they sent the shock without the black tubes mentioned in point 3 so I can't install it in my bike.
8. After waiting for another few weeks I finally got my mounting hardware. Installed the shock in my bike just to find out the shock rebound adjustment IS STILL BROKEN!!! IT WORKS THE WAY IT DID BEFORE I SENT IT TO YT-INDUSTRIES!!!!
That is it! (for now)
The bottom line is I ordered a bike in April. Now it is August and I still can't ride my new bike. YT-Industries ruined my biking season!
Could understand if that price includes delivery.....
Regarding YT sizing. I would say that it is on par with Santa Cruz i.e. small and plays to shortone's ego. At 191cm I would not describe myself as XXL, but rather borderline L-XL. It's also true for my clothing. Unless it is Italian. Then all of a sudden I become size XXXXXXXL.
@jollyXroger so what your suggesting is that if you are small you can't get carbon or a decent build, wtf!
Both of you are now basically saying that because you think small people won't be able to ride bigger wheels that they shouldn't get the option.
What happened to options ?
Chainstays get longer on the bigger bikes, as they should.
As for the size S 29er, or the lack of it, you should refer to my original comment i.e. that it makes very little if any sense.
TBH, I didn't even look to see where you were located when I mentioned Sea Otter. I'm sure YT will have their *Rolling Circus* demo tour, but it'll probably in the summer which is a long time off also.
Now, add a frameset only option and we're in business.
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is same price as
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with almost idential spec and geo
Looks like the metric shocks use bushings--so offset bushings are an options--or is a trunnion-mount with bearings? Otherwise, angleset with straight 1-1/8" steerer...
sorry but why does that matter, pretty much all shocks have a climb mode so why wouldn't you use it, even if it does climb well without the climb mode id still rather make that "climbs well" into climbs brilliantly with the climb mode.
I know open mode is a probably a more fair way to compare bikes that have different shocks but if a bike comes with a certain shock then that shocks climbing mode should be factored into the bikes ability to climb as that's what most of us are going to be using that bike with.
Better than all of that would be a bike which pedals well with the shock open though so you don't need to think about it at all.
I can understand that way of thinking for 130 to 150mm bikes, but not for 160/170mm enduro race/freeride sleds where you want a performance as DHish as possible that nornally comes at the price of pedaling performance.
Everything in bikes is a compromise; is great that it can be cheated sometimes.
Again, the hills are short but steep and rough, not undulating or smooth.
What do I get for spending an extra $200 CAD...it looks like the same bike.
Yet another hidden tax, I suppose.
Makes about as much sense as the air condition tax applied to new vehicles (yes, there is a tax if your car has air conditioning here.)
Just the opposite of the Jeffsy. Reviews stated the 27.5 was ok, so-so while the Jeffsy 29 was absolutely fantastic.
Intriguing.
The 29er will be faster in a straight line, climb better and faster. The 27.5 will be more flickable fun and poppy.
I don't need a review to tell me that, that is just common sense.
If you ride enough bikes you know this.
I have owned and ridden extensively the following bikes:
Evil Insurgent
Evil Wreckoning
Yeti SB5.5
Pivot Switchblade
Pivot M5.5
The wheel sizes have traits no matter the size. I don't put much stock into reviews or first takes. I ride the bikes and then form an opinion based on what I feel.
How about this, when i get my new Capra I will let you know how awesome it is!!!!
1. Coil front and rear
2. Eagle
Other than that it’s pretty much what I want. Come on Santa Cruz make that 170/180 coil nomad 9er. I need it by January 2019 please.
Don't know what @ShailyCR meant with less compatible tho.
Im not nay saying about E13 I think its a good compromise but ITS STILL A COMPROMISE
I think you can salp on an Eagle GX and b happy buts it's not cool, and rebellious enough for the super special cool kids.
SRAM cassettes are great but the rest of the drivetrain doesn't meet the same standard.
The narrower chain doesn't really add to the wear because the place where the wear occurs isn't smaller on a 12 speed chain and you also have one more gear ro spread the wear over time.
"Boat anchor derailleur"
"Boat anchor" sounds a bit sensational to me too, but it's been pounded into my head by the PB community, who has always told me that Shimano's 80g heavier cassettes are flat out offensive...so naturally, I assume i'm supposed to be pissed that SRAM's top derailleur is 40g heavier than Shimano's. That 40g completely destroys any rear suspension efficiency, you know.
This is not the first time a CDN reader has made this remark. The PB response is usually, this was a canned, paid for, advert. and this is what the company supplied us.... Its much easier for them to insert the data point in the "article" ... all of the data is on the website, by that logic, why bother posting anything.
But you're right, we typically provide prices of items in USD. If we listed the prices for a product for every single country things would get out of control - having US pricing plus Euro pricing covers a large amount of our readership.
Pinkbike is just spreading the word that there is a new rig coming available to purchase. If you were that interested in buying a Capra, you would have gone to their website after reading the article and looked at the information there; like any informed consumer would.
Why designers dont oay attention to the colors of the year.
2018 is ultra violet wh8ch is sick, especially when matched with black or silver...matte/gloss combos
Bravo YT industries for showing your allegiance to the beast system
No bottle cage mounts (even on the underside of frame) in 2018 - total brainfart.
We (European) are f*cked by an European brand! Shit!
And the purple paint of the Deli is just wow
Honestly not pleased by the less progressive rear suspension. Got the old model with a coil shock and boy, does that rear end feel good ;-) Perhaps the new design will be more suited for air shocks, and that doesnt make it a winner in my book.
Yeah- Im currently building one with 170mm front and rear- so stoked
Friend of mine also builds up the same frame with DC and 188mm in the back as his new DH/ Park bike
I really cant wait to ride it
I wish they included that information more often, honestly.
The Santa's Village spot is up (or down for you I assume) by lake arrowhead. I rode there for the first time last weekend and it was pretty fun.
Laguna Beach. Nobody mentions details because the majority of good trails are illegal. They are not signed and you have to pay your dues for awhile until you meet dudes who will show them to you.
Looks stunning though. Will probably get around to getting one at some point.
So just wait for Black Friday?
Specialized has a lifetime warranty except for full suspension bikes chain stays and seat stays. They are 5 years.
YT is still cool.
Enduro Pro would cost me the same as Capra CF Race Pro, or Enduro Coil the same as Capra CF Pro.
Not to mention Giant (Reign/Trance Adv 1) that would be cheaper than Capra CF Pro by around 500 euro.
Thing is that almost nobody pays full MSRP on big brand bikes (it's easy to get 20% off and if you're good with the shop even 30-40%), but you can't really get discount on direct to consumer brands.
Capra CF Pro Race - $6,800CAD
Specialized Enduro Pro - $9,219CAD
Comparable builds, Enduro with X01 Eagle, Ohlins suspension and Traverse carbon rims (I would argue DT Swiss 350 hubs are worse than the e13's on the Pro Race).
Why is the Specialized worth 36% more?
Perfect material for Dieter's "Sprockets" -
www.dailymotion.com/video/x9p5ey
I'm having commitment problems with you,my new girlfriend, can you help? My wife allows 1 girlfriend in my life of the 2 wheeled persuasion. Was stoked that you're a 29 cause I like'em big, I was ready to retire my old hag and get on to you my fresh new hottie but I am a big guy so when I saw the XL and XXL reach numbers my excitement was building, I saw the head angle and seat angles were on point, I saw that your pro race get up has 170mm travel and thought I could definitely put that extra 10mm to use. I like a fun playful bike so when I saw that your chainstay was 440 on the bigger frames I went from 100 mph to 10 on the fresh hottie meter, I thought to myself, the Tues has 435mm cs and she's fun and playful, the M and L CAPRA has 435mm cs, why go to 440mm on the XL/XXL? I could be wrong but the 435mm cs rear triangle should bolt right up to your larger front triangles, right? I've ridden bikes with 440mm cs and not a fan, grounds for an ugly break up. Then I start looking at your kit and see you have 170mm cranks on an XL/XXL 29er? I'm starting to think to myself maybe your creator was a small person that has never experience big people bike problems put this together. Then I see the 150mm stroke dropper and the 28 spoke wheels and come to the conclusion that someone up there is under the impression that the standard 6'5" humans has less then a 30" inseam and weigh in at a whopping 150 lbs because I have crushed 28 spoke carbon 29er wheels in my day, e-13 weren't immune to my domestic abuse, and a 170mm dropper is a minimum for me and I'm only 6'2" 200lbs and I would never want to do that to you. Lastly I see the steer tube on the fork is lopped off super short, another long leg person problem is getting those bars up away from my knees and with very few high rise bars available we need to stack some spacers there and if your maker is cutting those steer tubes that short it's like throwing a brand new set of forks in the garbage to us big people. Can you have your maker give us an extra inch of steer tube "that's what she said", throw 175 cranks on, ditch the 28 spokes for 32 spoke wheels, and if at all possible actually put a "short" chainstay on the XL/XXL the 435mm that's on the M/L will suffice? Then I will be happy to commit to the $5k+ and wait patiently 3-6 months for you to come of age. Sorry, I hope this isn't a break up before we even start a relationship. Relationships are 2 sided so please let me know your thoughts. And by the way, been riding a 46mm offset fork on my 29er and "it's the best!".....