5 Bikes Worth Checking Out - Taipei Cycle Show

Mar 23, 2017 at 3:24
by Mike Levy  
2017 Taipei Cycle Show

Taipei Cycle Show


There wasn't much information on this bad boy, but it's too good looking not to share. Pyga's new Slakline (the 'c' is purposely absent) appears to be the brand's new all-mountain and enduro rig that likely has around 160mm of travel via a metric-sized shock. The 140mm-travel, alloy Pascoe is currently Pyga's longest travel bike, so the carbon Slakline will likely be a big jump forward for the South African company.


Taipei Cycle Show
Taipei Cycle Show


Taipei Cycle Show


We've already shown you DMR's Sled back in January, but the 27.5'' wheeled all-mountain rig is definitely worth another look. It's using the company's 'Orbit Link' suspension system, which is a dual-link setup with the lower link rotating concentrically around the bottom bracket shell and 160mm of travel. The basic layout is more than a little reminiscent of a VPP system, clearly, and DMR has clearly put more of focus on robustness and rigidity than weight savings - check out how much material there is at the pivot locations and on each of the two links.

The Sled's geometry is going to suit a rider who climbs only to descend, with a roomy front-end and a 65.5° head angle that sounds like it'd make for a good time when letting it hang out.



Taipei Cycle Show


I'd rather write an entire textbook about car insurance than a short paragraph on e-bikes, but I spotted Kona's Remote hardtail while wandering the halls of the Nangang Exhibition Center and thought it was worth a quick photo. Mostly because of the chainsaw on the back of it, to be honest. Chainsaws trump electric motors bolted to bikes, right? The Remote has a set of Old Man Mountain racks on it, with the rear rack using the company's chainsaw carrier that looks the bee's knees for a trail builder.

A Bosch e-bike motor is going to compensate for that chainsaw and whatever sort of supplies you strap to the bike, and the plus-sized rubber should take some of the sting out of the Remote's rear-end.



Taipei Cycle Show


No motor and no rear suspension to be seen on Santa Cruz's new Chameleon, but that doesn't stop it from being the coolest bike in this particular booth. The aluminum hardtail can be purchased and run with either 29'' or 27.5+ wheels and tires, and even as a single-speed if that's your thing. There's a threaded bottom bracket shell, too, which is great for those who don't want to use a hammer or press to swap out a set of bearings.


Taipei Cycle Show
Taipei Cycle Show


One thing that the sub-$2,000 USD Chameleon is missing, besides a dropper post, is a whole lot of razzle and dazzle, which is a great thing. Instead, it looks like a simple bike with smart, useful geometry that's neither silly slack or stupid steep. You have to like green, however, as that's the only color it comes in.



Taipei Cycle Show


It's slim pickings at this year's Taipei Cycle Show for new and/or interesting bikes that don't have a battery and motor bolted to them, but Polygon's updated Collosus DH9 surely makes the list. The latest version of their 203mm-travel downhill bike sports a longer front end and lengthened wheelbase, and Polygon is now using carbon fiber for the bike's large rocker arm.

The DH9's rear-end is also carbon, just like last year, but the front-end remains aluminum, although you can bet that'll change in the near future.


Taipei Cycle Show


This particular bike is the fancy 'DH Team Edition' that comes with a bunch of the stuff that the team riders will be using this coming season, including an SR Suntour RUX fork, Fox Float X2 shock, a SRAM X0 DH drivetrain, and a set of carbon fiber wheels from e13. Are you ready to do your best Mick Hannah impersonation?







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98 Comments
  • 137 4
 Nothing says "brand loyalty" like a Suntour fork, Fox shock, SRAM drivetrain and Shimano brakes.
Also, details on the slopey/4X-ey bike please.
  • 34 5
 Don't forget the e13 wheels and cranks, Kenda tires and probably race face post, Crankbrothers pedals, Renthal bars, Hope stem, and Cane Creek headset...
  • 12 6
 I thought the same thing when I saw that build. Maybe it was all the sh!t they had left over from some other project.
  • 3 1
 The slope bike is the polygon Trid SS, if u search it up they did a little article on it a few months back
  • 7 1
 Bike in the background is a new Trid SS if anyone is interested.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/14534680
  • 2 1
 @NWuntilirest: Perfectly co-ordinated responses, especially given I first posed it two hours ago. I realised I was being rather thick with that.
  • 1 0
 its knows as being 'vertically disintigrateed'
  • 9 2
 Brand loyalty? Are We on a Cult? Nothing says The Company Interest better than the sponsor cut the sponsorship that's the other side of the coin. Brand loyalty term is something that not everyone can afford especialy the small teams or privateers
  • 1 0
 i thought Hutchinson UR has Ohlins rear
  • 2 0
 I'm a bit confused by this. I knew Polygon were with Kenda and E13 and Spank. But they're also supposed to be partnered with Box for drivetrain and Trickstuff for brakes. So I don't really know what's going on here with the XO DH and Saint. Presumably the "Team" nomenclature is mostly meaningless, just like "World Cup" spec bikes which the manufacturer's World Cup racers do not ride.
  • 6 0
 Maybe it's built with all the "free sample" products their sales team has received.
  • 3 2
 @NWuntilirest: Trid ZZ, not SS Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Yeah, it instantly triggers my OCD. I'm only willing to tolerate mismatching shock and fork if one of the brands doesn't manufacture both (but since Cane Creek introduced their fork, I'm not aware of such brand).
  • 115 0
 The bike's called the Chameleon and it only comes in one colour?
  • 3 0
 Good point...
  • 35 0
 color changes depending where you're riding, obviously...
  • 22 1
 It's a "Karma Chameleon".
  • 24 0
 Dad joke
  • 3 1
 @sevensixtwo: I call them father in-law jokes
  • 4 0
 it comes and goes...
  • 2 1
 All chameleons come in one colour. Rainbow.
  • 47 0
 Definitely scope for attaching that chainsaw directly to the cassette and then ditching the electric motor.
  • 3 0
 came to post the same thing.
  • 10 22
flag Dustfarter (Mar 23, 2017 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 Except for that would be noisy, polluting, a fire hazard and have a throttle... all the things a dirt bike has and that e-bikes don't Smile
  • 16 1
 @Dustfarter: Party pooper
  • 4 7
 @n3sta: @n3sta: Just the voice of reason and not just uninformed hate. Sorry Smile
I do agree that e-bikes don't belong on Pinkbike though.
  • 3 1
 @Dustfarter: they seemed pretty fair with this coverage, saying it was hard to get pictures of non ebikes
  • 1 0
 I think this is what you need:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/10683498
  • 33 0
 @MikeLevy please tell us more about the car insurance
  • 10 7
 Less ebike news on pinkbike the better.
  • 9 1
 "15 minutes could save you 15% or more on... time spent getting harassed by your buddies."

Take the extra 15 minutes to pedal under your own power!
  • 5 2
 @jrocksdh: as much as I hate E bikes I would love to see one designed specifically to do Trail work. Maybe haul heavy loads to the hard to get to spots that the Toyota 4x4 will not reach. With all my hate directed towards e-bikes I do think there is a place for them. Just don't ever try to call them bicycles and expect anyone to accept them as bicycles. They are motorbikes. Motor mopeds or E moped would be the best name for them drop the E bike.
  • 1 1
 @properp: i hear ya. Ebike will proly stick just like we call offroad motorcycles a dirtbike.
Sure, emotorcycles built for trailwork are fine, as long as ridden where motos can go.
I come to pinkbike.com for mtb stuff, not emoto just like i visit transworld snowboarding-not expecting to see skiing.
Used to get decline mag instead of others so I wasn't paying to read about xc, touring, but dh/am/fr. I subscribe to freehub mag for mtb stories/photos, not emoto, sup, xc race, etc
  • 2 1
 @properp: Realistically, I don't think you can expect to haul much on a bike (e or otherwise). The chainsaw integration is about as good as it gets, but you can also just use a dirtbike for that. A more economical approach (given a wide enough trail) would be to use a side by side or UTV with a flat bed so you can haul more equipment.
  • 3 1
 @lobohusky: exactly..the only reason to get an electric moto over reg moto maybe u don't want to heard. Btw, all that weight on an ebike workin hard offroad will cook those batteries. We just had an ebike cruiser blow up in newport beach, ca days ago. Sent explodong bits all over the place. Luckily rider had just got off 3 min prior and lucky not around brush/fire hazard area.
  • 1 0
 @jrocksdh: Dang, that sounds sketchy man! Never even considered the heat generated in those electric motors when increasing the work load. Glad to hear nobody was hurt.
  • 3 1
 @jrocksdh: that could happen with overloaded batteries depending upon how much load they were being asked to carry. Can we just say that ebikes suck? We don't like them now or ever. The bike companies need to stop shoving this down our throats like it's a good idea. You can't pass a plate full of shit off as lasagna. No matter how many ways you try and serve it.
  • 2 0
 @properp: dude that epic thanks! Got a good laugh over my coffee on that one.
  • 42 17
 Really Kona? An E-bike? And I thought you guys were cool...
  • 78 11
 If i see you riding trails on an e-bike I'll throw a nice big stick in your wheels. If i see you riding trails on an e-bike to do work on the trails I'll throw you a high5 and a beer. E-bikes have their place.
  • 13 1
 you ever ride with a chainsaw strapped to your back?
  • 17 24
flag WAKIdesigns (Mar 23, 2017 at 4:42) (Below Threshold)
 @nug12182: I bet he does, he thought it will make him look bad ass but all it did was it gave him a raging class 3 hemorrhoid. Butthurt that is.
  • 8 0
 @bender-oz: every time I try to prop, my fatass thumb bashes the wrong arrow, my apologies. I can't agree more with what you said. Hauling gear to build or maintain trail, you deserve that extra help and nobody in their right mind should say shit. This is the one place I'd expect no resistance to the ebikes.
  • 1 4
 @nug12182: Yes actually.... no motor required.
  • 2 1
 It's pretty cool though how Kona has reinvented itself in the past 6ish years, they went from taking endless shit to being a rad company in the eyes of the pinkbike community. But now the e-bikes are coming...
  • 5 2
 I am just surprised to see Kona have an e-bike, and have no beef whatsoever with trailbuilders. But if Kona wanted to be clear that this is a trailbuilding bike they should at least include a McLeod....Now it is just a lumberjack bike for obese dentists. ;-)
After reading the comments here probably all ebikes will be fitted with a chainsaw in the future just to get accepted by the Pinkbike crowd. ;-)
  • 1 0
 @eswebster: were you like...dude this is so awesome I'm so buff?
  • 1 1
 I hate e-bike UNTIL kona make this one ... kona please take my money
  • 1 2
 @MCMbiker: : Too true, reinventing yourself is what companies do when they've run themselves poorly, produced crap bikes, f*cked up warranty and generally taken the piss out of their customer base - it creates a negative sales cycle which if they don't improve will destroy the company.

Look at Whyte....5-6 years ago the bikes were lame. Now they're a bit less lame with a good spec and colours theyve mimicked from the rest of the industry. Great job at turning your brand around. Definitely a VFM brand at the moment. Bit too popular but that's a nice problem for them currently

As a side note, I don't buy bikes from relaunched companies. They made their choice on spec, price, warranty etc. If the only thing that's caused a shift in their attitude is the chance they may lose their ijob (not the fact they stopped doing right by their customers) then they can stay dead.

Here's looking at you, Whyte, Kona, Ellesworth, Intense, Spesh, Cannondale, Cube, etc etc etc.
  • 1 0
 @nug12182: And two liters of fuel?
  • 23 3
 It seems for a lot of companies the Ebike has become a prisoners dilemma. They may not want to build Ebikes but not doing so in the short run makes them run the risk of falling behind their competitors.
  • 2 5
 I disagree.

Ebikes are divisive within the Mtb community.

Make an ebike Mtb and I will never buy your brand again.

If we, the buying public make it categorically clear we won't buy it, then the ones who want to make the product are on their own. If the 1% who make the disability argument is enough to create a business around then good luck. If the 1% who ACTUALLY pick up a shovel and repair trails etc want one they can buy one.

But don't try to pretend that this is an undeniable future. Their numbers are currently limited, and ridden by people who I don't ride with. And never will ride with.

So actually, if we maintain our values, and our desire to keep Mtb a rider driven sport (see what I did there) the companies who "may not want to build ebikes" won't have to.


Personally, I think you're almost preempting a future where the greedy, big brands who WILL chase this dollar will also want the traditional Mtb ers dollar also, and you're creating a narrative where they were FORCED to sell ebikes. Your apologising on behalf of massive companies making millions of dollars - how ironic. You know, the companies who claim they have passion for every kind of cycling, so they make every kind of bike, but actually they're run by accountants and not having a bike in every niche means lost sales. It's why you see Cyclocross bikes without flattened top tubes, or cable routed under the top tube. Designed by companies purely bothered about being in a niche and diluting it, and squeesing the sale of the true brands in that niche.That's what you're really talking about. And it sounds like your making excuses for them. I see your a PLUS commentator too.....I find that VERY interesting.

By perpetuating the fake truth you "seem" to believe these companies have found themselves in, you are simply excusing their greed.
  • 13 2
 Is anyone else disappointed that every major manufacturer has an ebike or multiple ebikes in their line up and not a single gear box model..... and why aren't e-bikes called mopeds? they're essentially the same friggen thing. Humanity lets me down yet again.
  • 2 1
 Me, I'm just regular 'ol appointed.
  • 1 2
 Stupid is as stupid does. Most big bike brands are run by bean counters and this is a golden goose if they get it right. What's interesting is some brands will actively stay away. They'll get my dollar, as the first sign of not being a sellout douche bag firm, is not selling out.
  • 1 1
 No, not disappointed or surprised. "Major manufacturers" (multinational conglomerates to be factually correct) become major by making every bike on the market. It's why you can't really argue they're cutting edge, as everything they do is made for mass market. Haven't bought a major manufacturers product for years. They're the sort of company who make $5k bikes with $20 BBs and shit CNC chain rings to keep their prices competitive, and fleece their customer, and pay for their sponsored riders and marketing budget. Just think - the bigger the add campaign the more money (margin) you give them from your bike purchase. If you keep feeding them, they'll keep existing.

THE DISAPPOINTING THING is some people think these business are relevant to their desires and needs. That some people can't see behind the big name sponsored rider and kool aid to realise these business have no soul, and are simply leeches on an industry, box shifting and squeezing the little guy. That some people can't exist without buying big brand shit to show off on.

So nah, this is what they do. The surprise is some people buy it. But then a fool and his money is easily parted.
  • 11 3
 "I'd rather write an entire textbook about car insurance than a short paragraph on e-bikes"
-best bit of pinkbike editorial in history!
  • 6 0
 Dont get the massive push about the SC chameleon hard tail. Just a hard tail for 2k. Million choices in that category.
  • 1 1
 Are there that many choices? I mean, hardtails with a long and slack geometry that are designed to work with 27.5+ and 29 and allow you to adjust the chainstay length accordingly? The Canfield Nimble 9, maybe, but that's a bit more expensive. Salsa Timberjack, but I think the Santa will be more fun. Then there's the Last Fastforward, but I think at that the list ends. Three or four contenders in that niche, and Santa is not more expensive than the other options, I think the Chameleon should do rather well.
  • 2 1
 @FuzzyL: Maybe 10 or 15.....absolutely nothing compelling about the sc cham....I won't google this but do ragley, nukeproof, Honzo, commencal, dartmoor, gg, stanton , transition old stock, etc..... belong on the list....SC has marketing behind it for sure, thus I have seen it 15 times in the last 2 weeks.....with tax 2250 us dollars, lots for a hard tail with sram nx.....
  • 7 0
 Wheres the Randoms? always liked those
  • 7 1
 Nothing amazing there then!
  • 11 6
 those santa cruz looks like the bike you can buy on walmart... ca'nt understand all the hype the get from the bike magazines
  • 9 3
 is a SC that costs less than $2000, can you believe that? is soooo cheap, we should all buy it and praise them for being so budget friendly
  • 5 3
 @JoseBravo: do the math. fork and drive train with brakes alone will set you back 2000.
  • 4 1
 Shoot, i just posted exact same type comment, should have read through. 1000 cool options for a 2k hardtail, every time I turn around the chameleon is featured. Don't get it.
  • 6 1
 What about The Secret Marin 160 29er we are hearing rumors about?
Tell us something...
  • 2 1
 roygold ... that bike is going to be insane ... that is all i can tell you trust me on that ...
  • 1 0
 Just how fast could one pedal Kona's "Remote" with that ~15t front ring once the battery wears out? With what looks to be a 42t or 46t low gear on the cassette, when in low gear could you even pedal fast enough to maintain balance?
  • 2 1
 We have to stop these ebikes from being on our trails, which are already too busy. I will fight with my every being as pinkbike holds a gun to our heads forcing us ride ebikes. Ebikes are only for the fat and lazy - not the cool guys we are. Get a job, stay off drugs, and you too can afford an ebike, you damn, dirty posers.
  • 4 1
 I know you said there weren't many details, but that Pyga looks appealingly huge. Any guesses as to numbers?
  • 2 0
 But Polygon UR Team uses Box Components... Not XO. Also, they use Ohlins shock this year
  • 1 1
 nope ... they are on SR SUNTOUR
  • 3 0
 @little-star: Yes for the fork. But the shock is Ohlins. Check out their newest video
  • 2 0
 still waiting for newest bike from Polygon......still wait and very impresed for tech in lower lingkage
heheheh Big Grin
  • 2 0
 That Pyga Slakline looks like a cross in between a Randon Swoop and Canyon Strive!!!!! Wink
  • 3 1
 I'd like that carbon Jeffsy 27 in the background of the first picture
  • 1 0
 Got one ! :-). I have a race pro and it is fantastic. My first 650b bike and it is miles faster than my old Scott LT.

First Enduro race this weekend (Tweedlove) with it so it will be interesting to see how it goes in a race.
  • 5 3
 Q: Which of these five bikes would you like?


A: Yes.
  • 2 0
 I love that they used the phrase "razzle and dazzle." lol
  • 3 1
 that Poligon is a very beautiful bike
  • 1 1
 Well it's certainly better looking than some of their previous ones.
Compare with this 2012 number where the downtube nearly goes vertical:
www.pinkbike.com/news/First-Look-Polygon-Bikes-New-Downhill-Bike-2012.html
  • 1 0
 @DokonjoDaikon:
I am saying that I think this bike looks amazing. I don't know the old one.
  • 1 0
 That e-bike looks almost the same as the GHOST RO AMR. Same color, bag style. Main difference is the electric drivetrain
  • 2 0
 What kenda tires are on that Polygon? They look like a new model.
  • 2 1
 I'll take the olive colored bike with purple decals..... said only the drag queen contestants.
  • 2 2
 Where does Santa Cruz get their MSRP pricing? You're honestly trying to sell me an aluminum hardtail for more than a Chromag? Give your heads a shake, wallet gougers.
  • 2 0
 Not bad...
  • 2 1
 Hey Mike - it's "wandering" not "wondering" Wink
  • 5 6
 Waaaaaah I don't want to post about e-bikes . . . . Boo bloody hoo. Get over it. And everyone else, get over yourselves.
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