First Look: Gamut, 3T, and Race Face - Sea Otter 2013

Apr 21, 2013 at 19:03
by Mike Levy  
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Gamut Trail S Prototype Guide
Gamut's approach of designing simple yet effective guides that don't employ any moving parts continues with their Trail S, a new model aimed at the enduro/all-mountain set. The prototype pictured here is fitted with rapid prototyped upper and lower slider pieces, but Gamut told us that the production version will likely look very similar, including the extensively machined away boomerang. Speaking of the boomerang, do you notice anything different about it? The answer lies in the angle of the upper arm, which is tilted anti-clockwise a few more degrees than what seems to be the norm. This shifts the top slider lower down and more rearwards over the chain ring, allowing Gamut to use a more compact, lighter weight slider. This setup wouldn't be possible without the size-specific boomerangs that Gamut plans to manufacture for the Trail S, meaning that there will be distinct guides for each chain ring size that it is intended to work with (28 - 32, 32 - 36, and 36 - 40 teeth). As you might expect, this method results in a light weight guide that doesn't feature any of the extra material required by the typical setup with adjustable upper and lower slider pieces, and the prototype shown here weighs just 140 grams.

The production version will make use of Gamut's replaceable O-ring on the lower slider, with it positioned so that only the chain's rollers make contact. Gamut knows full well that the O-ring layout will wear out over time - they include multiple replacements in the box - but they say that it makes for a very quiet setup with no moving parts to wear out or rust. There will be versions to fit both ISCG and ISCG-05, as well as older style bikes that clamp the guide's backplate underneath the drive side bottom bracket cup, and it should be available this coming summer.

www.gamutusa.com




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3T Mountain Bike Components
The 3T name might not be a familiar name to a lot of mountain bikers here in North America, but the brand, founded in Italy in 1961, has a long history in the road world. This year's Sea Otter marked their entry into the mountain bike market, with them showing us their carbon fiber Ionic mountain bike post that utilizes their interesting single bolt DiffLock seat clamp. Before you chime in with a story about how you've had nothing but trouble with your single bolt saddle clamp rotating when your ass hits the seat hard, 3T has gone to great lengths to prevent that from happening. Two interlocking, splined barrels, one inside the other, slip into the post's zero offset head, with the outer barrel using a coarser spline than the inner. The two-barrel arrangement allows for very precise angle adjustments, and we don't see how the clamp could ever rotate under hard use. 3T also had a new carbon fiber riser bar and aluminum stem on display that, much like the Ionic seat post, looks to be aimed squarely at cross-country riders.

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www.3tcycling.com




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Race Face Goes Wide and Skinny
Race Face is joining the ranks of companies who, in an effort to limit the chance of dropping a chain, offer rings with alternating tooth profiles. The Canadian company isn't claiming to have invented the idea, but the concept of having sequentially spaced wider teeth that mesh snuggly with the wider spaced outer link plates of a chain makes enough sense that all of their single rings, including those that come on their single ring cranksets, will use the design.

They also showed us their Flank Core protection, a thin upper body garment that incorporates density changing D30 padding on the shoulders and back, as well as thin foam chest plate. The idea is to offer riders something that they can wear under a t-shirt, jersey, or jacket that will go unnoticed by others, and be as comfortable as possible while still offering a degree of protection. Not looking for shoulder pads? Simply remove each D30 pad from its internal pocket, and riders also have the option of slipping out the D30 back pad if they plan on wearing a backpack. The Flank Core shouldn't be too hot, either, thanks to its mesh and lycra construction that looks very airy, and Race Face says that it doesn't interfere with neck braces.

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56 Comments
  • 41 0
 I'd love to build a bike with a Chromag frame and mix of Race Face and Chromag parts. Of course suspension and wheels and brakes and whatnot would have to come from elsewhere, but otherwise a sick Canadian bike!
  • 39 24
 I like that chainring idea. only 2 little questions, as minor as they are

1. What if you use a halflink chain? Does it matter? I can't tell if they made a thicker tooth, or a thinner tooth, or redesigned both teeth and neither are of the original size. I'm curious
2. I guess you'll have to make sure the chain is patterned correctly.

Cool idea though. I can see it making that little difference that can make all the difference Smile
  • 33 2
 Why would you use a halflink chain?
  • 7 3
 Yes, please elaborate. Why? What on earth would you use a half link for?
  • 7 1
 Some riders like to use a half link on DJ/Street setups.
  • 7 3
 But then you wouldn't use NarrowWide rings for that- would you?
  • 5 1
 Oh, well i'm not too sure sorry!
  • 6 0
 I figured that he was asking for a DJ setup, but single/single doesn't need any chaingudes, or special rings.
  • 7 3
 its not going to work with a half link. clearly aimed at those with gears on the bicycle Smile
  • 12 5
 and neg props werent necessary for freerider.. ..
  • 17 2
 I totally agree cyberhawk on freerider not deserving the neg props ,it is ridiculous that you cant say anything without it getting scrutinized by mindless users neg propping everything just because they don't agree, some people are actually wanting help when the state comments and don't deserve to be made to feel like an idiot because of it. I know the neg props will be coming for this rant but do I care .do I fook.it will only go to show just how much im right.
  • 13 3
 I use the halflink on my DJ bike. You didn't assume it was for a DH bike, did you? I even went through some research and discovered that the half link I ended up getting, had much higher strength ratings than most chains BECAUSE it's half link.

I don't mind the neg props. Really. I learned that a lot of people just follow the crowds, some just don't understand, and some are just dicks Wink
  • 1 0
 Chill guys- you won't be able to control the others and their props so simply chill. I cannot see any arrogance in above comments. It is a nice and polite conversation. Someone asked (admit it) a bit of a silly question- we pointed out that it was a bit naive and we carry on, right? Jesus Christ on a fricking bike- just chill people...
  • 2 2
 " I even went through some research and discovered that the half link I ended up getting, had much higher strength ratings than most chains BECAUSE it's half link. "


half links snap quicker than regular chains (like kmc 710 or 510) because the links are bent in the middle ... this is common stuff
  • 1 0
 true that ! i used mine for trials... bad idea.. its like a fireworks cracker going off. .kablewy it did i say !
  • 4 7
 Haha ok I'll just let you be ignorant and assume that all halfinks break easier than regular chains because you think mine is just like all other half links.
I wont even tell you what chain I have because you don't deserve to know Smile
  • 2 2
 Dude, not cool. No need for such an attitude.
  • 2 3
 The sensitive type need not post. Someone needs their pacifier, or is cranky cuz they have a dirty diaper.
  • 2 0
 i use a halflink and theres almost no chance of snapping or droppong it. it is hella heavy tho.
  • 6 1
 Half link won't stretch like a conventional chain and you have a way better chance of getting a tensioner free fit single speed on vertical dropouts.
  • 1 2
 Totally disagree. half links are more likely to stretch than a normal chain. Look at them, they are bent, after horus of riding and constant stress they will get pulled out into a more longer shape. I have ran half links, and normal BMX chains. Halflinks stretch. However using 1 link of a half link in your chain will help you slam.
  • 8 0
 I still can't get over those SixC (sexy) cranks.
  • 2 1
 me neither. That pricetag
  • 3 0
 @fr3er1d3r never underestimate the power of Google Shopping: compare.ebay.com/like/160987128400?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&bigimg=y

a set of SixC cranks under $400
  • 3 1
 i know, I don't, but still. I just can't justify that much for cranks. Not when it's that much money. It's too much to me.
  • 1 0
 Been running the Six C over the winter. Beat the crap out of it and slammed the crank ends and bashing numerous times. Still run perfectly true.
  • 1 0
 that's awesome Smile I just use raceface evolve XC's and I think these would save me like 120 grams or so. Next time I take off my cranks I'll actually weigh them the way I run em.
  • 1 0
 The RaceFace Flank Core Protection is gonna be top of my wanted list as soon as its for sale in the UK, It can be nothing but faultless going on the Flank knee pads and elbow pads using their D30 protection that i already own.
  • 4 0
 Loose the Derailer without having to sell a kidney for XX1, Sweet!
  • 8 0
 Wish i didn't sell my kidney now.....
  • 1 1
 OK, question! These sweet new chainrings that have wider and skinnier teeth profiles to match the chain are awesome... but don't they ONLY work if you're running a cassette with all even numbered cogs? AKA a 10,12,14,16,18, 20, etc...

If you have an odd toothed cog in your cassette and your chain rides over it, won't that mean the chain will switch by one link and cause it to ride over the front chain ring in the "wrong" orientation? Or am I just crazy?

Maybe I should run a test before posing this... too late.
  • 3 1
 Should have thought about this more... the cassette doesn't matter. Just the number of teeth on the chainring. As long as it's even then we are kosher. Sweet!
  • 1 0
 right, but i was confused for a second after comnent haha. Yeah the chain can't move up front, can it Wink
  • 1 1
 so what happens if the chain ring wide parts mesh with the narrow put of the chain will it stick or will the tension on the derailer just pull it off? or am i just over thinking.
  • 6 0
 If you put your chain on right you should never run into that problem.
  • 3 0
 They can't: NarrowWide rings only come in even sizes, 30, 32, 34, 36 etc. This way you can never have the repeating pattern end up on the wrong width of tooth.
  • 1 1
 but but...those aren't the red and white ones... Big Grin
  • 1 1
 Why no protection on the shoulder blades I never hit my shoulder from the side more from the back but all protection shirts have only the shoulders.
  • 2 1
 why are those baselayers always so long? go way too low on the waist imo, good to see 3T expanding tho!
  • 9 0
 for tall skinny people like me who always find baselayers spend most of the time around their navel.
  • 3 0
 base-layers should always be long...not only for the lanky fellows like Nobble and I, but also so they don't come un-tucked. When your sitting in a bike positions the back always seems to find its way un-tucked - so annoying
  • 1 0
 as a 6'2 dude who still fits size small i can vouch for they're too long most of the time
  • 2 0
 You must have a shorter torso then, I'm 6'3" and they're always way too short.
  • 1 0
 maybe, idk it depends really, adidas are always too long and castelli is always a bit on the short side, gotta try craft I guess
  • 5 0
 Gotta tuck it in for church son.
  • 2 0
 I see those SixC cranks got da tips on... gotta love a good set of rubbs.
  • 2 1
 Wow a new guide, 300$ here we come..... still the biggest ripoff in MTB history for me Big Grin
  • 3 1
 wantywanty
  • 1 0
 Can't Wait for the new gamut guides!
  • 1 0
 Sixc cranks shave half a pound off of almost any bike too Smile
  • 1 0
 Does that carbon SIXC still cost like $450?
  • 5 0
 new saints are around that so it's not terrible, just wish more brands would adopt the shimano style pinchbolt system
  • 4 0
 Kinda wondering way so steep the price of the Saint - it's not like they;ve made an entirely new crankset, the M810/815 unit is pretty damn close to the new one! I don't see a reason to change my M815 with a new Saint one just because they are as close to each another as it gets.
Now, the Sixc DH is another thing: 300g lighter and prettier! Smile
  • 1 2
 Wow
  • 1 2
 I Don't Care!!!







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