London Bike Show Update

Jan 13, 2012 at 13:33
by Mike Levy  
London bike Show - Pivot Mach 5.7 Carbon

by jacobgibbins
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Pivot's new 5.7 Carbon has the same 145mm (5.7'') of travel as their aluminum version, but shaves roughly 200 grams thanks to the switch in frame material. Total frame weight sits at a claimed 5.2lbs. Tech notes include the bike's tapered headtube and 12x142mm thru-axle rear, as well as some very nice frame protection in the form of molded rubber sections on the downtube and chainstay.


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Pivot was also showing off their Point chromoly steel hardtail, a super clean looking bike that features a tapered headtube and interchangeable dropouts that allow you to fit a number of different axle options. It's shown with a single speed setup.


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The Rose Beefcake is sporting updated geo, including a 64 degree head angle that should make it much more DH friendly. The bike shown above uses the race team's spec, including the mega exotic Carbocage chain guide.


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Saracen had Manon Carpenter's Myst on display, the very bike that she rode to her 2011 Junior Downhill World Champs win.


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Scott Beaumont is now going to be going to 4X and dual battles for Yeti.


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Bike polo game in session at the London Bike Show.


Few photos from the London bike show 2012

There was also a slackline setup for people to test themselves on. There was plenty of carnage to be seen, as you can imagine.


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This trials demo had many onlookers' eyes glued to what was happening.


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The fine folks at Interbike need one of these for next year's show, although that might seriously effect the amount of coverage that you all get to see.


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Riders were absolutely pinning it on the wooden pump track, splinters be dammed.


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The London skyline.



Stay tuned for more from the London Bike Show!


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80 Comments
  • 25 0
 I dont know how Id ever go to one of these shows. Id never leave , I would want Everything. But great job on people setting up these to get their bikes and also the sport out there.
  • 4 0
 I no what you mean, Went to one in Montreal in September i was like a kid in a candy store.
  • 1 0
 Same here! I went to look for new products for my shop I work at and my boss had nearly pull me out. I was completely overwhelmed with the amount of products that were there and just wanted to ride everything. I was there from the minute it opened, and only left and hour or so after it was suppose to be finished. I just hung out with the guys at the Giant booth to talk a bit more about there bikes and thing this have coming in for 2012.
  • 15 3
 £2099 for a 145mm travel Pivot Mach 5.7 frame, and claimed as competitive.
Is that compared to the YT Industries Wicked 150 at 1599.00 Euros for a complete and good spec bike with nice looking geometry?
  • 8 0
 Remember that Pivot are a leading, high valued, prestigious brand like Yeti, consider that cheap considering the ALLOY Yeti SB66 costs £1999 - hate to imagine the price of the carbon one...
  • 5 0
 £2099 for a carbon frame don't forget...
  • 9 44
flag Drood (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:14) (Below Threshold)
 Pivot? Barely heard of them. They really aren't in the same category as yeti..
  • 14 2
 I live in Colorado so we see our share of Yeti's, and I'll have to say your wrong. Pivot is every bit as good a bike maker. Yeti is a great bike but Pivot is totally on par with them.
  • 5 2
 Well then you need to clean out your ears because they really are in the same category, if not better. Also comparing a direct to consumer brand (like YT or Airborne) without any LBS support to a brand that only sells thru an LBS (like pivot and yeti) is pointless. They're not even in the same category.
  • 1 0
 That Pivot looks awesome in that spec and frame!
  • 3 0
 A Santa Cruz Blur LT carbon frame is £2500, so at the top end of the market it's pricing is fairly competitive.
  • 3 0
 Also these are high end american brands you're talking about... the prices at the london bike show include the import charges to get them to jolly ol' england. A Niner Air9 HARDTAIL carbon frame is £1699, so yes I would see a full suspension carbon frame
for only £400 more as a very competitive price.
  • 3 0
 You're right they are expensive but there are some good cheaper alternatives if this doesn't fit your budget: Specialized, Commencal, Trek, Giant, and many other EU brands have good bikes in carbon as well for less. SC, Intense, Yeti, Pivot as high end boutique makers have a niche market and struggle to make it affordable with import taxes/duties and EU sales taxes. I lived in Germany and sales tax is a whopping 19% there. So a $2600 Nomad C just became around $3220 with the sales tax of 19%. They are expensive here in the US too. $2600 plus tax for a carbon Nomad is a lot of money no matter how you slice it. I have decided to wait till carbon becomes the new aluminum to buy when the prices come down.
  • 1 0
 i think pivots are great, i will always be a dual link suspension fan and will always ride only VPP or DW links, I ride an intense an older 6.6 and test rode the aluminium Pivot Mach 5.7 and thought it was fantastic, i'ld buy one, if i had the money which i don't so i won't, but the Intense carbine is in the same bracket, it seems that if you want a carbon all mountain ride you're going to pay, the bike industry controlling it again.
  • 1 0
 Technically all horst-link 4-bars are also virtual pivot points... as are ellsworth ICTs, Rocky Mountain's Smoothlink & ETS link, the virtue link from Felt, and the Whyte Quad-Link that Marin also licenses among many others. They all call them something different, usually something trademarked, but essentially they all do the same thing. Having a long linkage like a Horst/FSR/ICT 4-bar or a short one like DW or SC/Intense VPP doesn't change the principal at work.
  • 1 0
 Your right at one level. The biggest difference between the VPP and the others is the counter rotating links. It's why the SB 66 is close to violating SC's patents. Most of the other bikes you mention have parallel links. But the idea is similar in that the pivot point is adjusted by the linkage for a optimum performance.
  • 1 0
 Yes but its also the axle path, the actual Outland VPP patent which SC bought had a very specfic axle path to chain torque relationship explained in the patent description. As long as the SB66 doesn't follow the same axle path relationship, its not violating the VPP patent.
  • 1 0
 I think its more complex than that. The axle path is not the only thing SC bought the patent for. I think there are probably other parts of the design the patented as well. I don't think they'd be putting up a lawsuit if they didn't believe there was some sort of infringement. That's not the kind of company SC is. They're not like Specialized just out to put everyone under their thumb. I think we'll see what the California court has to say before jumping to any conclusions. Its too bad I like SC and Yeti.
  • 12 2
 i like that Rose Beefcake bike supper simple yet satisfying to the eyes....
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I really dig it too. Less is more...
  • 1 1
 Simple yet elegant it is Smile
  • 2 0
 Oh my god that thing is sooo sexy. Why have I never heard of this before??
  • 1 0
 Me too! I think it looks a lot like a transition bottlerocket, but way better.
  • 1 0
 Maybe because it's a german brand ;-)
www.roseversand.de
  • 1 2
 looks like a transition blindside
  • 9 1
 I would drag my dick through a field of a thousand cacti to have that Beefcake or either of those Pivot's
  • 5 0
 Ouch.
  • 5 0
 Jesus. That bloke on the video said "errm" so many times it made my ass pinch up. Was like listening to John Major... selling something he knew fick all about!!
  • 5 1
 Looked like a great time. I didn't know the London skyline was so beautiful either!
  • 41 1
 It's not normally
  • 5 4
 hahaha try scotland!
  • 19 0
 Scotland's skyline not beautiful? You need to go outside sometimes pal.
  • 5 0
 I gotta disagree Plonka, London is one of my favourite cities in the world, and certainly one of the most beautiful! Scotland does beat it though, so long as we're talking the cairngorms rather than my home town of paisley!
  • 1 0
 i'd have seriously mixed feelings if i lived in britain - i love riding in the mud yet i despise the gloomy rainy weather.
  • 5 0
 haha 'gloomy rainy weather' I don't get this stereo type of the weather in britain being so bad, yes we get a good share of rain but we also get a lot of really good weather too. In november there was dust flying at some of my local trails.
  • 3 0
 Scotland: www.pinkbike.com/photo/7593655
  • 1 0
 woops misunderstanding....i meant it as in scotland is like that quite often....although lately its been horrible i agree Smile
  • 2 0
 That guy sounded clueless with his knowledge about the Pivot frame... Perhaps he was a random by-stander roped in to say something :-)
  • 4 0
 "Moto is my life" t-shirt...and the guy is holding a mtb lol
  • 1 0
 i went last year and got some bits at low prices , this years looks a lot better but they are still putting 2 shows in one area of the excel, they should just do one big bike show , Rose make some nice bikes
  • 3 1
 London Bike show, what a joke, 6 months behind every one else with what is happening and sod all brands. Waste of bloody money.
  • 1 2
 my buddy went and said the show was crap - really tiny compared to the "proper" bike show in the UK - it was a sideshow to the "Boat Show" taking place next to it, which was massive in comparison

the UK's biggest 2 brands Specialized and Trek were not there - he called Specialized to ask why and they said "its a waste of time for us, its not a proper bike show!"


the pump track "challenge" was hilarious - but like previous DMR Pump Track Challenge rounds, BMX riders were banned, as they would have handed the MTB riders asses to them on a plate Wink
  • 1 0
 From a person who was there the show was poor, but the pumptrack challenge was the tits, and bmxers wern't banned 20inch wheels where so if they where so good why didnt they rock some big wheels and prove it
  • 1 0
 because they are BMX riders (riding 20" wheels) and don't want to ride bigger wheels!

put most MTB riders straight onto a BMX and they are pretty useless

I've been riding BMX and MTBs for 20+ years plus, and have ridden both wheel sizes extensively on pump tracks

you cannot hope to keep up with 20" wheels on a pump track if you are riding 24" or 26" wheels (ever watched the insane speed of BMX racing?) which is why they were banned from the DMR pumptrack series
  • 2 0
 Im sure its strong, but the seatstays and chainstays on that Pivot hardtail look really thin.
  • 3 0
 my mum went, but I didn't. How is that right?!
  • 1 0
 Why are Rose using an "exotic" Carbocage. Have they not heard of Csixx? Best chain guide you can get. Lighter, stronger, quieter and smoother than anything else out there
  • 1 0
 I think you showed the only Mountain bikes that were there...... very road oriented show and quite disappointing if i am honest.
  • 1 0
 Well very much enjoyed racing on the pumptrack with the pros, it was much more fun than the cycle show and way less road shit.
  • 2 0
 looks good!! liking the look of those pivots Wink
  • 2 0
 At first I thought the yeti was a mini downhill rig for midgets xD
  • 2 1
 the yeti looks awkward ( i dont think i spelled that right) but the pivot dj looks like pure perfection! i want one...
  • 2 0
 WE NEED A PROPER VANCOUVER BIKE SHOW. that is all
  • 2 0
 Beef curtain would've been a better name
  • 2 0
 Chip Cheereo here from uk signing off mates
  • 2 0
 What's the deal with that "mega exotic Carbocage chain guide"?
  • 1 0
 That pivot is faptastic. Anything new coming out of Yeti this year besides the SB95?
  • 1 0
 i've bagged a Press pass for the weekend, pics online soon.
  • 1 0
 and..and..and..end.and..and..:-D
  • 1 0
 Does the Rose downhill bike come with the pair of hands?
  • 1 0
 i went it was sick the new cube dh was there soo nice
  • 1 0
 Wow, after 6 years, Pivot has finally caught up to Ibis!
  • 1 0
 And passed them by a long shot in terms of price!1 2099 Pounds Sterling in Canadian dollars is $3200. LOL I bought my Ibis HD at a local LBS for $2300 (frame). Does look nice though:-)
  • 1 1
 The Ibis HDs rrp. is £2175 in the UK, so they're around the same price.
  • 1 0
 Different countries have different import duties, taxes, etc. You cannot compare prices simply by exchange rate values. Hope hubs and brakes are made in the UK and are ridiculously cheap there but in canada the stuff is way more expensive. If you look at Hope products in the USA, they cost more than chris king. But in the UK, its the other way around. In canada, CK components at wholesale are higher than the retail prices for the stuff in the USA (if you simply compare exchange rates of currencies).
  • 2 0
 slacklining!
  • 1 0
 That Pivot is GORGEOUS!!!
  • 1 1
 the shock on the pivot doesnt look kashima gold coloured (might just be the light)
  • 2 1
 The pivot hardtail made me horny.
  • 1 0
 Going there tomorrow! Yay!
  • 1 0
 finaly someone made a cromo frame whit tapered headtube!
  • 1 0
 the new 2012 DMR 898 has one also - but your right it took long enough!
  • 1 0
 My bike would have won 1st prize for custom paint job =) Word!!!
  • 1 0
 oh, i wish, i could visit it next year!
  • 1 0
 I WANT THIS PIVOT HARDTAIL!
  • 1 0
 That's funny, I saw Trek...
  • 1 1
 i went last yr and the show was rubbish i rele wish i ahd gone now this yr tho
  • 1 0
 Damn... that CF 5.7 is SWEET!!!
  • 1 0
 boas fotos das bikes
  • 1 1
 that yeti looks tiny







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