Pinkbike Product Picks

Jan 22, 2014 at 15:37
by Mike Levy  
Shimano XTR Trail pedal

Shimano's XTR Trail pedal uses their proven SPD mechanism that has been mounted in a fixed position on the pedal body (compared to some lower cost alternatives that see it sit up at a more prominent, spring loaded angle relative to the cage) and a large but pared down platform that is designed to provide support underfoot. The pedal body features chamfered edges all around to limit the chances and consequences of a pedal strike and to shave some grams, and there's plenty of open space that should allow mud to flow through rather than pack in. Much like the standard XTR and XT offerings, the bearings system can be adjusted and easily rebuilt with simple tools, and release tension is tuned via a small hex wrench on each side of the pedal, exactly in the same manner as on any other Shimano offering. Total weight for a pair is 398 grams - just 10 grams less than the XT Trail pedal - which can likely be traced to the hollow axle and slightly slimmer body. MSRP $249.95 USD www.shimano.com

Shimano XTR Trail pedal review test
Shimano's top tier pedals offer great durability and consistent action.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesWe've had a single set of Shimano's XTR Trail pedal on rotation for over a year and half now, with them being used for everything from straight up cross-country racing, a few enduro events, and countless miles on many of the test bikes that we've reviewed during that time. And just in case that wasn't enough, they've even seen plenty of time threaded into the crankset on a downhill bike while putting in park laps, despite them not really being intended for such use. How are they looking today? Pretty much like they've been put through the spin cycle with a couple of cinder blocks for a few weeks - well worn might be an understatement. How are they performing? Flawlessly. Despite wearing out a number of pairs of cleats since the pedals were new, which is to be fully expected, the pedals themselves haven't shown much in the way of giving up any performance. The medium sized bodies are certainly scarred and even a dented in a few spots, but we'd wager that they'd continue on for many more years without complaint, and the actual SPD mechanisms themselves haven't faltered either. About the only thing worth mentioning when talking about durability is the small amount of bearing play that recently developed in each pedal, although it's not developed enough to warrant a rebuild yet - maybe we'll do it the next time it snows. Durability aside, we've appreciated the positive engagement and release, and have only had issues clipping in when riding in extremely muddy conditions that would likely trouble most other designs, something that can be remedied by stomping the ground a few times to knock the mud away from the cleat. There is one thing that we'd ask Shimano to change, though, and that is their release tension: we'd like to see the stiffest setting be even stronger than it currently is, even if that meant that the entire range of tension from the loosest on up would follow suit. We do admit that this likely isn't a complaint that many other Shimano pedal owners might make, however, and it stems from many years of using platform pedals that have us used to being able to shift our feet through corners as needed (picture ''pointing'' your feet through a corner, for example). That habit now has us clipping out every so often in the same scenario, despite the tension being maxed and tinkering with cleat angle numerous times. Regardless, the XTR Trail pedals have shown impressive reliability, and their comforting pedal body size makes standing on them in times of distress a non-issue, unlike many itsy bitsy racer-boy pedals out there. Would we buy another set? Probably, but we'd also recommend checking out the far less expensive and only slightly taller XT Trail pedal that weighs 408 grams for a set, use the same SPD mechanism, and can also be rebuilt. - Mike Levy




Yakima HoldUp rack

Yakima's HoldUp rack combines ratcheting arms that clamp down on the front tire and small pivoting rear wheel trays that hold the bike's rear end in place. The U-shaped front wheel clamps can be slid up and down the arms, allowing the rack to easily deal with anything from 20" to 29" wheels, while flexible plastic straps at opposite end are long enough to be laid over even the tallest of rims and be ratcheted down tight. In an effort to keep the bikes from tangling with each other, Yakima has allowed both main spars to be adjusted in position from side to side relative to each other, and security comes via built-in cable locks that can be extended out of the end of the arms. The entire unit can be easily folded up when not in use by retracting a spring loaded pin, or tilted down to allow access to a hatchback. Want to carry more than two bikes? The red end cap/bottle opener can be removed from the central arm and an extension slid in that allows you to carry four bikes in total. The HoldUp is available to fit either 1 1/4'' or 2'' receivers, with both retailing for $499 USD, and the HoldUp +2 extension (only available for the 2'' model) goes for another $329 USD.www.yakima.com

Yakima HoldUp rack review test
It's not perfect, but the HoldUp is easy to use and shouldn't ever lose a bike.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesThe HoldUp rack proved to be super simple to use, with bikes being able to be loaded and unloaded in only a few seconds without any hassle, and the sliding bases making it easy to adjust out any bike on bike contact that might otherwise happen. The rack's ratcheting front wheel holder also doesn't touch the fork legs of any bikes we carried, meaning that it won't leave behind any unsightly scuff marks from repeated use. More importantly, the design does a good job of holding your pride and joy in place regardless of how rough the road is. At over 60lbs the HoldUp isn't overly light, but it's easy enough to fold up with a single hand after the spring loaded pin has been retracted. Adding the two-bike extension when you want to carry four rigs obviously makes this a more difficult job, although that's to be expected given the additional weight. We do have a few complaints with the HoldUp, though, including how the secondary, non-spring loaded pin constantly rattled its way out, even during easy use on paved roads. This isn't such a big deal when only using it as a standard two-bike carrier, and it took a few days of use to happen, but it's certainly more of a concern when the optional HoldUp +2 extension has been attached. We also managed to destroy one of the ratcheting arms on the HoldUp +2 extension when it swung down below the rack as we were driving (obviously without a bike on) and was nearly ripped clean off. We had the arm in the folded down position at the time, but the U-shaped tire clamp was moved all the way to the end of the arm and was able to completely clear both the rear wheel holder and the small hook that is intended to hold it in place when not in use. There's no doubt that this was partly user error on our part as we should have stowed it properly, but it's also not completely obvious that the arms are free to rotate down and make contact with the ground - maybe there should be a built-in stop of some sort?. Those few complaints aside, the rack refuses to lose a bike, and every piece of threaded hardware is as tight as it was when new. - Mike Levy




Arctic Heat cooling vest

Arctic Heat says that ''a cooler body means less sweating. Less sweating means the onset of dehydration is delayed,'' a fact that anyone who rides in hot conditions on a regular basis is well aware of. Their cooling vest has been designed to fight that by keeping your body temp low, with them claiming that the vest has been scientifically tested to lower the skin temperature when worn directly on your body by up to 17 degrees celsius. The vest can also be worn over a singlet or thin shirt, with a claimed 12 degree drop in skin temperature. The key to the vest's cooling powers are the non-toxic, hydrophilic (that means they absorb water) crystals that are distributed throughout the grey horizontal panels that cover the core of the vest, both on the front and back. Note that the lower grey panel on the back of the vest does not contain any crystals so as not to cool the kidney area, though. ''The vest is made from materials specifically designed for body cooling,'' Arctic Heat explains ''with the inner made from Merino wool, and a micromesh outer with pockets of special non-toxic viscous gel sewn in.'' MSRP $198 USD www.arcticheat.com.au

Arctic Vest review test
The Arctic Heat cooling vest is a very specialized piece of gear for those that regularly ride and race in warm temps, and while it works as advertised, it probably isn't for the average rider out there.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesTo activate the cooling effects of the vest we first soaked it in water for fifteen minutes until the crystals turned into a gel like state before wringing it out and hanging it up to completely dry, which took just over thirty minutes. The next step is to drop it into the freezer for a good length of time - two hours in the freezer will give you approximately two hours of cooling time - something that means the Arctic Heat vest will take some planning rather than being a spur of the moment kind of thing. Putting on the frozen vest first requires unfolding it, with that is made easier by giving it a misting with a spray bottle. An easier method, although one that doesn't see it stay as cool for as long, is to put the vest into the large freezer-style bag that it comes with and then dropping it into a cooler filled with ice and water for a few minutes. This was our preferred solution due to it being much more convenient and something we could easily do before going out for a few practice laps. On the flip side, you can also use the vest like a hot water bottle by popping it into the microwave for a few minutes (you bring your microwave to the mountain, right?) if you want to keep warm. This could be ideal for those cold early mornings before your Megavalanche start time, or even just to have on as you sort out your bike before a chilly ride in the winter.

The Arctic Heat vest does work as advertised, and it certainly added comfort on those hot days, but we were initially hoping for a far simpler setup process that is more convenient for the average mountain biker. As it is, you'll need a cooler full of ice and water at the minimum, and a freezer of some sort if you want the vest to stay cool for a few hours - hopefully you've arrived at the race in your motorhome, or at least made friends with the race's onsite caterer. Having said that, the Arctic Vest does exactly as it says, which is all a dedicated racer who is looking for an advantage needs to hear, isn't it? We can't see the average rider spending the money on it, though. - Si Paton





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161 Comments
  • 119 17
 FIFA world cup suck's. don't come to brazil. thank you.
  • 73 6
 Until billions of dollars are spent in this sh.ty soccer world cup people are diying in the hospital coise there is no medic and medicine. People die everyday like flys in the transit cause there is no law. The cops are seen smoking weed drinking beer with uniforms.... thousands of sh..t hapens and the country dont have money and they gona spend in soccer stadiums...
  • 54 1
 Same shit in Russia
  • 8 61
flag grahammcdougall (Jan 24, 2014 at 7:16) (Below Threshold)
 Almost like Canada too
  • 22 57
flag elanto (Jan 24, 2014 at 7:17) (Below Threshold)
 please can all you Brazilians firebomb and raid the stadium, only then may we kill off the asshole players, no players, no soccer PLEASE !!
  • 10 3
 For Russia, it's the Chechen terrorist that'll turn away the visitors, methinks. But ye, the shit happening with the world cup actually is getting some coverage in news here. It's pretty whack, how the brazilian government lets their citizens die all for the sake of a soccer tournament
  • 14 23
flag danieldh (Jan 24, 2014 at 7:34) (Below Threshold)
 Not a fan os soccer either but... If ur country spent 1 billion for example, the country is gonna get 2 billion back for turisim and stuff. It generates a lot of work, so if there is peaople starving they problably just don`t want to work.
  • 72 4
 Ok...what does that have to do with the article?
  • 24 16
 Absolutely nothing, but do you not agree it's an important issue?
  • 114 0
 You guys want the cooling vest then?
  • 6 35
flag MarsTheGuy (Jan 24, 2014 at 9:45) (Below Threshold)
 Porra gente, chegou a um ponto agora que a copa VAI acontecer, e ja foi gastado muito dinheiro publico. Entao agora falar para os gringos nao virem para a copa e MUITA burrice por que ai a gente nao vai ter o retorno do dinheiro de turismo que teria!!!!

WORLD CUP 2014!!!!! Gonna be rad!! Razz
  • 7 3
 no its not dumb to tell everyone to not come to brazil after millions have been spent...its clever, because then brazil will fall in its own grave that it has been digging for ages now, and maybe THEN people will wake up and do something....yes i am brazilian..and no, please dont go there and dont even bother watching the world cup...since the brazilian TV isnt getting any international contracts because they want millions and millions just for other countries to use theyre image, you probably wont be able to watch it anyway....f+ck fifa, long life cooling vest..
  • 6 1
 Brazil is going through some rough stuff, but it is better than it was twenty years ago. Hopefully stuff will straighten out after the soccer games are all over with.
  • 14 5
 Get it right people, it's called FOOTBALL ! as the FOOT is used to kick the ball, otherwise if it were called "Soccer", one would kick the ball with a SOCK (?).
  • 4 1
 ^^ and for the closing argument.
  • 2 4
 Hmmm awful lot of shirt lifters not liking my comment i see
  • 5 2
 I know it has been foot ball for centuries, but I didn't want to confuse my fellow Americans into thinking I was talking about the super bowl.
  • 5 2
 Djibouti needs no fifa! But the cooling vest, this is good
  • 3 2
 Thats terrible.. But how does that relate to riding though
  • 1 1
 Actually, the English who created the game originally called it, wait for it..Soccer. So you can ask the English what they used to kick a ball with..but probably socks when they take PKs
  • 2 0
 I was just reading a historical fiction piece wherein the serfs in medieval England played foot ball. Most of the book is extremely accurate, so I'd be pretty surprised to discover that little tidbit was an oversight.
  • 2 1
 Funny thing about language. Multiple terms can be coined from the same region.and point of fact..foot ball in said era referred to games played while on foot, as hand ball was making reference to games played using.. Wait for it..hands
  • 1 1
 In the USA we have it pretty mucked up.
  • 2 0
 Then why not call it "American Handball", "We don´t know how to call this crapy copy of Rugby" or at least "American Hand/rarely Football". It makes more sense, since 90% of the time u people use the hands to play it. @egourdin67 could u please tell me who was the creator of Football? "wait for it...NO f*ckING BODY!". Football is the product of a sport melting pot from different cultures around the world, but the Brits were the ones who gave the name to the sport and established the main rules, approved by FIFA (google FIFA). "wait for it..." Jeez, Barney wannabe.
  • 2 1
 Is there really another football/handball/headball argument going on?? go ride a damn bike...
  • 47 1
 ...when the easy trail doesn't make your nipples hard...
  • 29 5
 What we really need is an enduro specific version of the cooler vest.
  • 7 4
 I only race serious enduro races so I need and enduro specific ice vest. I can't believe they don't have one yet. It probably will perform far better and weighs less. Research has also shown that the more decked out you are the better you perform.
  • 1 2
 If they don't make it, make it your self. You cant buy cool.
  • 3 1
 I already made one. It uses 650 b tubes, a dropper, post, and some Benjamins to hold it all together.
  • 1 1
 And a buttload of angst. Works for my man G - Money! Just wish it would win moar....
  • 16 3
 I have had 3 pairs of XTR pedals snap, my mate has had 2 pairs and others i know of have also had the same problem. My LBS siad there have had a few sets returned as well. Link below shows the problems.

forums.mtbr.com/drivetrain-shifters-derailleurs-cranks/xtr-trail-pedal-failure-751821.html

I now use the XT version and (so far) they have been flawless.
  • 9 2
 Same experience here - everyone I know who's had the XTR pedals has had them fail ion the same way, three or four sets. All warrantied, but still, Shimano dropped the ball with these, which is unusual for them, their pedals are normally bombproof. For 10g more and less than half the price, I'd stick to XT.
  • 12 18
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 24, 2014 at 1:26) (Below Threshold)
 I have the Deore version of these and comparing to their old platform spds I am quite unimpressed. Their biggest fault in my eyes is that the platform is thin and I don't get the feeling of the planted foot as on flats, which I was getting from DX spds.
  • 7 0
 Yep DX ftw
  • 4 2
 I keep reading reviews that claim the XTR pedals are bombproof – I’ve had a pair fail, XTRs are the only pedal I’ve had fail on me, drive side axle broke, XTR pedals are the only Shimano component I’ve had break, but when you pedal breaks off in a rock garden ….

Do a Google search and you will find the same thing has happened a lot!

Shimano have indeed dropped the ball with these.
  • 3 0
 Everything ment to save weight, seem to never last. I've had XT for years and never had a problem. Besides over priced, XTR don't seem to have anything over XT...
  • 4 1
 I own a set of XTR's and have had no issues whatsoever. Two seasons. That being said, I run them on my "lightweight" trail/xc bike. They get put through the wringer don't get me wrong, but don't typically see big drops or get smashed off rocks at speed like my favorite clipless pedal the DX (M-647). I run that pedal on my all mountain bike and I love them, more support when clipped and unclipped and the plastic cage glides across obstacles. However they are considerably heavier and I would wholeheartedly recommend the XT or XTR to anybody. I also only weight 160lbs so snapping pedals is not my forte. The XTR from me gets five stars.
  • 2 3
 XTR's are so crap, the bearings are so fragile. Choose the XT's!
  • 2 1
 Great pedals that are let down by their bearings internally. I'm on my second warrantied set. The first set let me down in dramatic fashion miles from home resulting in a long walk.... Wasnt pleased. Shimano Warranty was easy though......
  • 7 0
 I'm running the M530s (Deore version) and they're great. They have the same SPD mechanism and weigh just 40g a set more than the XTs. For $30 online price, it's hard to go wrong with these.
  • 2 0
 So is it that the spindle is actually cracking, or is it that the threads on which the preload nut and locknut strip?
  • 4 0
 Few of my friends here had the same issue with axles snapping. When I came to go back to SPD I just bought the cheap M530 ($30) from CRC and they've been bomber. I'll take a 60g weight penalty for a $100 saving and snap-free. Might upgrade to XT when these wear out for the 50g weight shave.
  • 3 0
 Two pair of XTR pedals - both have had bearing replacements at least once. There was no catastrophic failure and Shimano did send warranty replacements, but they did break down early. That aside I still love the performance and functionality and won't go to anything other than Shimano (I might go XT vs XTR though).
  • 1 0
 I've got an XTR warranty set still in the box if anybody want's them for a good price. I didn't like these from the get go, constantly becoming loose on the axle, not enough platform and the outside edges are very sharp. Switched to Mallet DH when they came out, so far really nice pedal.
  • 2 0
 Another voice added to XTR bearings have failed. XT's have been bomber
  • 3 0
 M530s here. Have lasted for years without being touched. For the price of them its easy to have a spare set for when when your on a riding holiday.
  • 1 0
 i use M530's and they are bombproof. i have it on my XC, DH, and even installed one on my road bike replacing my R540s' coz im sick and tired with getting back and finding the right side of my damn road pedals.
  • 2 0
 Another one here gone through 2 pairs of XTRs that failed. Like others have said, word is XTs are BOMBER.
  • 2 0
 Yep I run XTs because of exploding spindles and dodgy bearings
  • 2 1
 I've personally had no issues for 2 years with my xtr trails and i smash the shit out of them. No issues with my xtr race either, but i have heard about the issues. Luckily they will hand you another brand new pair of pedals.
  • 1 0
 +1. My XTRs failed too. Back to XTs.
  • 14 0
 I sit in my freezer for two hours before I ride. It drops my body temp 68 degrees. This last way longer than the vest.
  • 11 0
 Arctic cooling vest ? .... going to sell shed loads of them here in Scotland !!!
  • 11 1
 The arctic vest is a great gimmick, if you wanna dress as skeletor!!!!
  • 5 0
 Yeh, but look how hence it makes you look. Atherton has sold it for me!
  • 12 0
 Actually, as an avid mt biker with MS the artic heat vest is a way cooler cooling vest than what is out there currently for MS patients.. It looks light weight, and doesn't look like a flak jacket. Great idea, good concept.. It's nice to see. I admit it might not be the most convenient way for regular people to stay cool, but for those of us who suffer with MS it's an option that will allow us to enjoy what we love to do..
  • 12 1
 Long live the flat pedal
  • 6 0
 The tooth that engages the detents on the arm of the Holdup is made of plastic and wears pretty fast. Driving on windy roads accelerates this process. The consequence is that ratcheting mechanism slips and you get a free roaming mountain bike on the highway. After having run the Holdup for 4 years, I wouldn't buy this model again. The ratcheting mechanism on the the Thule 917 seems much more robust, and seems to have built in safety mechanisms for preventing dragging the arm, as described in their brief review. One good thing I'll say about the Yakima is their warranty support is good. Just send them a video of a worn out arm, demonstrating how it loosens, and they'll mail you a whole new tray.
  • 2 1
 How many bikes have you dropped in the last 4 years?
  • 2 0
 That's one-too-many.
  • 1 0
 Same issue with my hold up. One sides already broke
  • 1 0
 Mine constantly falls down into the "open the trunk" position. I've never lost a bike, but at 75mph it scares the shit out of me. I also hate the non-integrated cable lock system. It's the same way on their roof racks. It just seems like an afterthought.
  • 9 0
 'oooh it's sooo hot, where's my cooling vest?' if this sounds like you, you should stick to golf.
  • 5 0
 I had the same unclipping in the corners problem with shimano pedals, changed to time ATAC ones and haven't had a problem since.... they work better in the mud (IMO than SPDs too)
  • 4 0
 Agreed, I have both ATAC Carbon's and the big platform ones too, best pedals I've ever used by a long way.
  • 2 0
 Likewise, ATAC carbon are amazing, never ever a problem getting in or out. I've got some old Z platforms too, they work well but are too fat. Good for sparks though if you are riding in the rocks Smile
  • 5 1
 JUST A LITTLE MOTO TRICK I STILL USE FOR DH. ON HOT DAYS BEFORE MY RACE RUN I LEAVE MY JERSY SOAK IN MY COOLER THEN WHEN I AM READY I STICK IT IN MY HELMET TILL ITS TIME TO ROCK AND ROLL. THEN I PUT THEM BOTH ON WHEN IT GETS CLOSE TO MY RUN.
  • 11 0
 OH THATS COOL
  • 22 1
 I BROKE MY CAPSLOCK TOO
  • 12 0
 I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
  • 8 0
 Huckster, do you sell oxyclean by chance?
  • 4 0
 I love my XTR trail pedals. I have a pair of XT's as well. I've noticed the XTR's have a smoother action as far as clipping in and out is concerned. It's subtle, and only noticeable because I have both pedals.
  • 2 0
 Same here, I'm 270lbs and have had my xtr's for over a year with no issues. Having ran almost every pedal out there the xtr's are by far my favorite.
  • 3 0
 I will take my XTRs to my grave... 3 years on trail bikes, dh bikes and racing CX in the mud and rain and they had never failed me. They are just now starting to develop play after 3 years of constant abuse. This is easily the best purchase I have made as far as a product that will move from bike to bike and you can install and never have to mess around with. Just install them and forget about them.

m.pinkbike.com/photo/9431735
  • 3 0
 You can laugh at Skeletor in his cooling vest, up there, but there IS a need for cooling devices. If you ride in arid climates like the Phoenix desert you can mist yourself, but then you also have to carry the extra water. But, if you ride in the humid south, like Atlanta, evaporative cooling is a no-go, and a cooling vest makes perfect sense. I've ridden in both places and keeping cool during the summer is no joke. Of course, $198 is way out there.... Chinese version coming to Ebay soon for $19.99.
  • 1 3
 wtf ever I have lived in the southeast and now in so cal and ride year round. sweat it out like a man. it ain't going to kill you.
  • 3 0
 What I said is that there IS a need for cooling devices. Not everyone can handle heat as well as others. I have actually had the privilege of getting heat stroke, and I can tell you that "sweating it out" only works when you're in arid climes. When it's humid you're toast. By the way, heat stroke might not kill you, but it can incapacitate you enough that unless you have someone to help you you're in deep shit. You can get to the point where you can't even walk.
  • 2 0
 I've had the exact same problem of unclipping unwantedly on hard turns ... always had something in the back of me head telling me not to hit that huck to flat, it might unclip on the harsh landing ... I didn't have the spring maxed out, but pretty close ...

I'm testing out some Time pedals, so far pretty good. Drawback, they're MASSIVE and rather heavy, but that's not too much of a problem Smile
  • 2 0
 After XTR pedal broke have decided to reconsider my commetment to Shimano SPDs, besides I think my knees might need a change. I'm running CB Mallets now but not sure I like them (all CB stuff they look a bit too pretty and about to break as soo as you take them out of the box Smile ), have been considering Time (or the Mavic version)
  • 2 0
 If you are breaking XTR try XT (no hollow axle) or DX.
  • 2 0
 I've been using ATAC pedals for many, many years. Not only are they always reliable (I've had some pairs for 8+ years that I bought used), but they very rarely unclip in rock strikes, etc. I've used them for everything from bike polo, to bike messaging, to xc to downhill and freeride.
  • 3 1
 XTR reliable... don't make me laugh. They all snap at the spindle thread eventually. Everyone I know who has them is on at least their second set (mines 3rd). At least Shimano replace them no quibbles I suppose. Good way to get a new set of pedals every few months.

That bearing play you mention is probably caused by the fracture in the spindles that you likely now have. Take them apart and see if you can remove the retaining nut without the axle snapping... go on I dare you.
  • 2 0
 Is this supposed to be the same with the XTR race or just the trails? My race's are 2 years old but you have me worried im riding a time bomb.
  • 2 0
 Yakima products are god awful. Only bike rack Ive ever owned to consecutivley drop bikes onto the highway. Once Before the warranty claim. Then the rack they "replaced" the old one with did the exact same thing again. Needless to say .. Never again ...
  • 2 0
 We've got 2yrs on one of these Yakima racks. It gets used several times and week and has made 2 trips to Arizona from BC. So far no issues. Works great and we are hauling some heavier AM bikes. I'd buy another no problem.
  • 2 0
 Is there any reason to get this pedal over the standard spd like an xt780? It sounds like the shoes don't contact the cage at all??? If the cage doesn't do anything, why bother? Riding 661 spd compatible shoes. Pretty much clipped in all the time, not planning on riding unclipped, not a beginner looking for a larger pedal before getting clipped in. Like the idea of a tiny bit of platform, but sounds like that is not the case with this pedal?
  • 3 0
 I have the XT version of these pedals and I can tell you that even with a Five Ten SPD shoe the platforms don't come in contact with the shoe. You're right when you say why bother, if you want a SPD pedal with a platform that will offer some support go with either Crank Brothers or Time. After years of riding with SPDs, last summer I went with SAINT pedals and Five Ten Free Riders (or whatever they're called) and couldn't be happier.
  • 1 0
 Yep, meant five ten freerides for shoes. Would be nice to get a little platform support, but guess this isn't the pedal for that.
  • 2 0
 i own 3 sets of 959s no matter what name you give them they are dope. Over 13 years of use and no failure just sweet spinning. The latest set are 3 years old, second oldest 6 years. None have been serviced and all run smooth and quiet. I think the cage on the trail model might be a problem.
  • 1 0
 The 959's are dope. The new generation of XTR pedals (985) are junk. I've had 2 sets that develop play in the axle due to bearing wear. Makes it feel like you have a loose crank. The 959's I have are still going strong after 4 years of heavy use.
  • 5 0
 A new Marvel rascal is born! Now name him...
  • 3 1
 Gee Man
  • 4 5
 ...leave Gee alone!! ...please!! ...he's a human!!
  • 3 2
 Is he? How come he never smiles?
  • 2 0
 I have recently started using a rear car rack. Why the $%#& hasn't anybody designed a slash guard for bike racks??????!!!! After 1 1 klm all that shit from the road ends up in/on brakes/suspension.
  • 11 0
 They have, it's called mud flaps.
  • 1 0
 I've got the Yakima hold up & I really like it, except when folded up on my car it hides the licence plate. I've gotten a ticket because of this. The present solution is to remove the rack when no bikes are mounted. With a ratchet wrench, it takes me 60 seconds.
  • 1 0
 I just switched from xt trails to cb mallet 3 for this exact reason where you can't twist your foot at all without unclipping accidentally. It's not that they don't get tight enough, it's that they don't have enough float.
  • 2 1
 $500 for a bike rack? We made this one, and it holds 7 bikes, makes ur car a low rider and handle like crap, and it only took us 7 hours!

www.pinkbike.com/photo/6896501
  • 1 0
 Ever wonder what mean muggin Gee is listening with them bigass headphones.
dirt.mpora.com/featured/thursday-top-ten-tunes-gee-atherton.html/3

The music doesn't exactly match the intensity of his expression
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 Lets face it.. Shimano pedals are the best.. Period. For all the people in canada that complain about costs of stuff there is some good news! Expect to see Shimano prices to drop huge this year!
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 had three sets of them pedals fail and be replaced under warranty so I sold the last pair on ebay and bought the xt's which are proving to be great, piss poor for a £120 pedal really.
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 How do you tell by looking at them when a Shimano SPD cleat is worn??? I've always wanted to know as Shimano don't give you this info. It keeps me up at night.
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 For me it's about feel, I can tell they are worn when action becomes inconsistent. For what they cost, getting a new set every season seems to be about right.
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 I find for optimal use: Replace cleats every 1-2 chains. When your chain is toast, your cleats aren't far behind.
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 After using XTR and XT pedals, I can't tell a difference. Love them both though.
  • 3 0
 I had 4 sets of XTR bodies all pull off the axle JRA. Using XT now.
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 That Arctic vest is by far the dumbest product I've seen so far regarding cycling!
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 I can see it being used in many different sporting applications. When you are going all out for at least a hour and feel like you are cooking up, sweating profoundly. I personally think the best use of it would be as a tourist when travelling very hot places. You would have a two hour head start before dehydration kicks in. It would be nice if you could drink the water in the vest afterward.
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 I've got the XT version and think they're great, a touch heavier but cheaper and the same mechanism and sealing. Highly recommend.
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 I love my XT trail pedals. Not sure if the 10 gram weight reduction is worth the price difference between XT and XTR though.
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 I don't care how hot it is I am not dressing up like a ribbed pop sickle.
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 Some hotties like ribbed popsicles...
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 When it does get stinkin hot and I am doing a big climb. I carry an extra jersey. By the time I reach the top my jersey is soaking with perspiration. So I put on a fresh one.
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 If its so hot why are your wearing a jersey at all? Do you realize that they make t-shirts that wick the sweat off your body faster than you can make it? Get something made from Merino.
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 T shirts. For extreme athletes. Smile OK.
Yes the jerseys that I buy have wicking material to help transpire my sweat. I guess you have never been litteraly soaked in sweat.
Merino is a type of wool. It is a wonderful natural fiber that is great for cool climates.Smile
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 On the hottest days I won't wear any top except merino. It can keep me cool on the got days and warm on the cool days. I've owned a lot of mtb clothes over the years and trust me, Merino wicks the best. The Ground Effect "model t" is the one I use. I have 3 they are so good.
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 Almost $200 for a vest you can freeze and it will help you not dehydrate? Why not soak your t-shirt and shorts in the sink then put them in the freezer over night? Who thinks up this stuff to make? Better yet, what idiots out there will buy this SHIT!
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 The cb mallet 3s are the way to go. Adjustable pins and lots of float for no unwanted clip outs. They feel just like flats that your feet never bounce off of.
  • 1 0
 What about XT's w Teva Pivot shoes? Is it me or are Teva Pivots the only stylish shoe out there? They were also rated pretty high....
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 Thats funny PB users found the perfect xtr pedal and real users say the pedals brake easy... thats funny
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 Pedals with brakes? Where can I get a set of these fancy brake pedals?
  • 2 1
 Those XTR pedals, or the XT ones, or even the cheaper that share the same design, are great. Keep it that way shimano.
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 Yup - XT are same quality, like 25g heavier and $100 less. Mech is the same, but no gold ano
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 The biggest problem with these pedals XTR is that the shoes do not touch the platform and don't stabilizes the foot!
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 It's crazy how expensive bike racks are these days.
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 Gee Atherton looks like a fucking complete wanker. Jesus. Smile you limey TWAT.
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 Best rack on the market- period. Don't waste your time with anything else.
www.1upusa.com/bicycleracks.html
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 I have the $30 version of the xtr's and i have yet to find a flaw
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 Gee looks pissed going into 2014. %^$#@#$$% Smith
  • 1 0
 Smith don't need no cooling vest, Canadian winters take care of that...
  • 1 0
 Gee always looks like hes about to start an MMA match
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 I have a full size truck f the rack
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 Geesus looking badass as usual
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 Atherton is mean mugging.
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 artic heat cooling vest what a load of s**t
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 Gee is such a douche.....
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 Why so serious Gee?
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 I got that cheers!
  • 3 0
 Looks like he's trying really hard not to shat himself
  • 1 2
 Knock knock! Who's there? Gee! Gee who? Gee, your hair smells terrifick!
  • 5 0
 Gee actually doesn't use the Arctic vest is as a performance enhancing device. Its a medical device to keep his intensity from giving him an aneurysm.
  • 3 0
 Why does it seem Gee doesn't smile? Smiling is cool. Even with a porno mustache, Stevie comes off as a much more approachable fellow. Smile, Gee. It's not that bad. Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.
  • 1 1
 Ziploc bags, ice, and tape will work the same...you can probably get them for free.
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 Gee got guns
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 Is that Micheal Phelps?
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 Smile Gee.......
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 Wanna look a little more pissed there champ? It's just Stevie Smith.
  • 8 3
 He just watched Steve hand a pair of Rachael's panties back to her.
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 Ive got a £20 pair of pedals and theyre fine ! Stuff spending $250 !!!????
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 Can you elaborate? what pedals do you have?
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 Pair of dartmoor pedals
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 You really do not understand ben.
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