2011 Devinci Wilson - Weagle Talks

Sep 20, 2010 at 23:16
by Mike Levy  
Devinci debuted their brand new 2011 Wilson downhill bike at Interbike's Outdoor Demo today and it was attracting an incredible amount of attention. We caught up with the bike's designer, Dave Weagle, to give us the lowdown on the Split Pivot equipped Canadian speed machine.

Inside you can watch and learn as Dave gives you a video tour of the new bike!

*Wilson Geometry Chart has been updated*
Read on...
2011 Devinci Wilson


Put on your learning hat and let Dave Weagle give you a tour of the new 2011 Devinci Wilson and it's Split Pivot suspension

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Watch the promo video below to see the new Wilson getting sideways!

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Hope you like 'em curvy! The 2011 Devinci Wilson has been designed by Dave Weagle and uses his patented Split Pivot suspension combined with a high main pivot and a concentric rocker link to activate the shock. The new bike also incorporates adjustable geometry that will let you tailor the ride to your needs. There has been a fair bit of excitement about the new Wilson and it looks like it may be fully justified.




Looking for more info about the Split Pivot system? Check out the Split Pivot website to have your questions answered.

Visit the Devinci website to see their entire lineup.


It looks like the 2011 Wilson is set to be added to the long list of great Canadian exports such as maple syrup, Canadian bacon, and Wayne Gretzky. With dialed geometry and the Split Pivot suspension platform, I can see Devinci's new downhill bike being a winner right out of the gate. Cue the internet armchair engineers, lets hear your thoughts on the new bike below!


Stay tuned for more Interbike coverage!



149 Comments

  • 9 3
 cue the negative props but...its just another linkage driven single pivot. dont get me wrong, it looks to be really good quality and the business, but i fail to see why the massive amounts of hype? doesnt matter if the links are around the BB shell, the real axle, the headtube or the friggin moon, its a linkage driven single pivot. his lovely old sunday will perform better under braking forces.
  • 2 1
 The brake is mounted on the chainstay...
  • 3 1
 I agree with madm3chanic. Nothing new, just a conglomeration of well-thought out techniques applied by other companies. Trek's ABP and Protector, Sunn's/Katipo's linkage design.

Just using a few good bikes to make one seemingly "amazing" bike. But only the WC Circuit will prove it. Even then, who knows.
  • 2 0
 Where is the massive amounts of hype, Tim (madm3c)? Devinci are showing at interbike, so have organised PB to visit and post - not hype just good marketing sense. They have a well know designer so they've used him. They have created a slick advert because they are not a backyard operation and with this bike they can sell into the US without patent infringements. Again, just good sense.

I am sure if you had the cash you'd do the same for the Akuma (after of course redesigning it, so people would buy it Smile . Massive hype would mean girls in bikini's, a big truck, WC team, and endless stories about the riders telling us how they just stubbed a toenail or trained for a day... (I am looking in your direction, Trek)

Yep - it is a single pivot - but f*ck, Tim, you of all people know that that is like saying a bike is a four bar - there are good four bar and shit four bar.
  • 2 0
 @mad3mechanic I think you need to look closer at the design. The brake is mounted to the chainstay, and the chainstay is "floating" (DW's words ) because it's attached to the BB concentric linkage that drives the shock. As far as I can tell that makes it quite a different config than the other linkage driven SPs on the market.
  • 2 0
 scrizly- you're quite right, didnt see that. it is kinda cool to mount the brake mounts on the bottom bit, its a pretty cool way of gettin around the patents for the horst link but essentially making the same thing, albeit upside down. nice one- i guess in light of that it isnt really a single in the sence that the breaking forces are isolated.

oh yeah, and Gavind, design (and actually make) your own frames then talk shit to me.
  • 9 0
 So many nice new bikes so little money
  • 3 0
 well put sir. lol
  • 4 0
 Canadian companies are making some pretty sweet rides. Banshee and Devinci have two of the nicest DH rigs out there... but big S has the big S (sam hill) so we'll never really know how good these smaller brand bikes perform. You could put Sam on a tricycle and he'd still win races. Either way. I am saving up for a 2011 Wilson... maybe I'll have enough $$ by 2014 Smile
  • 5 1
 Dave Weagle has done a f*cking solid job working with Devinci on the new, 2011 Split-Pivot bikes

this is easily one of the "hottest" DH racing frames for 2011 alongside the new 2011 Specialized Demo 8


the new Wilson?

it *might* look (visually) like another DH frame, or parts of 2 different DH frames, but the Wilson SP is its own beast, without a doubt...if you examine the work that has gone into this design, and the suspension design and features


DW told my boss (UK Devinci importer - Freeborn Bikes) directly at Interbike (Las Vegas) yesterday that its the first frame he has worked on, where he was been directly involved in the entire frame design / manufacturing and has thoroughly enjoyed riding, testing and shock tuning the new Wilson SP frame

for those of you who don't know, on many previous frames DW has been involved with, he has not been 100% involved in all the elements, apart from providing "suspension kinematics" which means someone else has designed the physical packaging of the frame, and some factory in Taiwan has built the frame with sometimes dubious quality control (think of Iron Horse and the Sunday DW)

with Devinci's in-house production facility in Quebec, Canada; he has been directly involved in the design and manufacturing process, rather than sending emails off to some guy at the bike company, who then emails some guy at the factory in Taiwan


can't wait to get a Wilson SP to test ride, and to send if off to Dirt Mag here in the UK for a proper test from riders / testers who know what they are talking about Wink
  • 2 1
 The Dirt reviewers might know their stuff but it's a shame their write-up will prob be incomprehensible.
  • 2 0
 Erm, Dirt reviews make perfect sense to me....
  • 1 0
 Dirt is a hard read but the photos more than make up for it
  • 1 0
 When will the frame's be arriving in the U.K.
  • 6 2
 What a legend. Dave I stand by all of your products and you are truly one of the most innovative and talented people to ever be part of the industry.
  • 14 14
 Talented? Yes, very.

Innovative? Not as much.

This is practically a combination of the core strengths of sunn and trek. Even then, unless you're riding the WC circuit I doubt you'd actually notice the difference over something like an Orange 225 or anything simple like that. A lot of it is marketing hype. That video milks it sooooo hard.

But I still respect his work, he has made some amazing bikes. Smile

Just my 2 cents
  • 9 2
 Shred - I think you need to check the 'using Trek elements' you have blurted out twice. DW actually created the Split pivot before the ABP - no matter how much spin Trek puts on it. Yes this is just a single pivot - but unless you are an absolute numpty you'll know that that is about as insightful as saying is a bike. I have ridden dozens of single pivots and each is different. IS it ground breaking - maybe not, but until you've thrown a leg over it your opinion just sounds ill-informed and a bit like bleating sheep...
  • 1 6
flag tom-cuthbert (Sep 21, 2010 at 7:39) (Below Threshold)
 Trek was actually already in the prototyping stage of the ABP when Dave Weagle first suggested they buy the Split Pivot design for the first time. So it's not 100% clear who "made" it first. But you can see similarities in other places. But trek have been working on the ABP bikes since 07-08 and this was only getting tested early 09 so there is still a chance. But like I said, most people wouldn't notice the difference really, so it's a bit of a moot point.
  • 7 1
 DUDE! Dave Weagle is pretty much a ONE GUY good enough in terms of know-how and ability to sell it. So good, that many companies lust after his expertize. Trek must have a pretty big R&D department, with a group of engineers getting at any second, any equipment and any materials they want. Even if he has it now too, it's just because he earned that mostly by himself: through his hard work, determination, talent and simply being smart (in totaly positive meaning of that word).

I admire Dave all the way for the "making it happen, making it work" factor. There's too many homegrown geniuses with their "groundbreaking inventions" who lack that. Done this five years ago, done that, should have would have could have bla bla bla

He made it, you can even touch it
  • 2 0
 So consider that and then throw some speculations at him, to make him look more of a "normal person" - somewhere closer to yourself, so that you can feel better. Achieve something first and then diminish someone elses values.

If it was a big company you are speculating, then I wouldn't say anything, but this is a one great guy and it's quite sad to read that.
  • 3 0
 Sorry, Shred, but that is not really what happened. The Trek really is just a collection of other peoples ideas. DW's split pivot, Bodo Proobst direct shock connections... I respect Jose G a whole bunch, but saying they invented any of that is not being completely honest.
  • 3 0
 Why argue excessively over it. If Weagle holds the pattent then obviously Weagle holds the pattent. As far as who built one first/ sold one first. Who cares.
  • 3 0
 Who cares? Well patenting is a very dirty business,just as copyrighting. My wife does PhD now. In order to get further funds for her research, every now and then she needs to send some papers over to someone in the "industry". In most cases they want a deeper insight into what is it that she is actualy doing (it's normal: you don't pay few months salary and don't cover research costs if you are not sure what is it actualy about - govermental bodies do it sometimes but only because it is not decision takers own money being spent). It is highly likely that someone in the "industry" is working on something similar and is closer to presenting his stuff than she is. Then he might actualy use her findings in his work and sell it as his.

Patenting works in a similar way, the difference is: you pay for patent, for establishing it and for holding it! Imagine a single "inventor" with not much financial backup (comparing to a big company) paying annual fees for patents covering products he struggles to sell in the beginning.

In theory: what you do is you create a big buzz around it by for example presenting articles. In practice more buzz you do more crap can someone throw at you and you can loose your credibility before you "make it happen". The same guys throwing crap at you might actualy use some of your work and present as theirs.

So to sum up guys like Dave do care Wink
  • 1 0
 and creative work is a strange thing. Sometimes you work years on something and can't crack the problem. Then ne day you get one external idea, one inspiration, one push and everything solves itself.

Trouble is: not always this external idea is just an inspiration, there might be some big thought/process behind it so it works. If you want to use it for your work then you need to do it according to all copyrighting/patenting procedures. That is a time, sometimes money taking process, and if you are more powerful than that idea giver (more cunning, more money, more contacts, more public credibility), it is very tempting to call it yours all the way.
  • 2 0
 I meant that the fact that dave has the pattent is the only thing that matters in the end.

If treck really did have the idea first I'm sure they would have been trying to file for a pattent as well. Your wife may be in a sticky spot as a low capitol research based spot (assuming from the fact shes workin on her PhD. But for most every other company, getting and holding a pattent is goal #1 of every new design.

I do know a thing or two about pattents, these days obtaining a US pattent is a skill all onto itself with major companies having specific pattent lawyers working for them.
  • 1 0
 Creative work demn it...
  • 1 0
 The whole patent thing is a load of shit anyway. It is possible that two people thought pof the same idea at the same time independently of each other. If you can't prove it, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Trek have apparently "proven" that they were working on it before DW filed his patent, but everyone knows they copied his idea and have the cash to "encourage" their patent's approval.

On the other side of the coin, in my opinion, a lot of patents shouldn't be awarded. The DW link is about a hundred years old. It's a double wishbone as used in all quality suspension systems on cars. What have they awarded DW a patent for it when companies were making cars with it before he was a twinkle in his daddy's eye?

Where would we all be if a Greek bloke had patented the wheel?

My father had a pretty bad experience trying to file a patent last year. Threw about ten thousand quid at it and on the second round of investigation a year later discovered something similar already existed in France. All that money and time down the drain because of the lawyer's incompetent research. That doesn't happen to the likes of Trek.
  • 6 4
 Looks like a Demo got raped by an Evil in a dirty back alley and this is the result. I'm sure there will be another 72 page thread on how to tune the damn thing right below the ones on how to make the Revolt and the Sunday work...
  • 1 0
 YES!! This is it, finally a simple design that incorporates a rearward axel path and low leverage ratio. Im very keen to see how this will perform under some of our WC riders. Will the merits of the split pivot finally be realized by everyone? Well have to wait and see Smile
  • 1 0
 Amazing looking bike, any industrial form designer will agree I think. A masterpiece, a piece of mastership, a shipped mastery, a mashipster, a ma, ma a ama... Looks a bit like a "formaly" refined form of Evil frame (I know suspension system is different if any beigist would like to make argument here)

And usualy if something looks that good it is good, not much weirdos work well. Perhaps only Specialized has "a license" for well working weirdos.

Dave some AM bada*s bike please!
  • 1 0
 looks awsome! hope it holds up though, this year alot of my fellow racers i compete against, had a shit load of problems with the wilson, and the rear end having like 2 inches of flex and it was a mess hope it holds up and they fixed that, it looks real dope though
  • 4 3
 lets be honest
the last wilson could have been the worst mountain bike ever designed, anybody who's ever worked on the rear end of one has to agree. everone else has no right to comment.
this one is right up there with all the good ones
but to argue about it being a single pivot is kinda bullshit
sure, it is by the previous definitions of a single pivot
but that was before anybody (dave weagle) thought of putting a pivot right on the rear axle. almost too sensible
and to whomever wrote its no better than an orange 224?
yeah right, that bike was always a turd. but peaty could still win on it
just like he could win on this, or a supercycle if they built a dh bike.
  • 1 0
 Whats your point mate?
  • 3 1
 that the old bike was bad, and this one should be good and everyone who thinks this is no better than an orange is out to lunch
  • 2 0
 Agreed!
  • 1 0
 Wow, that's pretty much a GT RTS downhill bike! Before all of you clowns jump in and start telling me that the rear axle concentric pivot makes it completely different ... well, it really doesn't. It might brake slightly better but it is still a high single pivot bike. Not that ther's anything wrong with them. They work really well for DH bikes.
  • 1 0
 UUUGH. Looks like reaching the shock is gonna be a bitch. Just like the Sunday and the Revolt. ."DW" sure like his rear shock to be "nestled." Just sayin. When my Session 88 snaps, this will be my next ride. Hopefully not in 2011, though!! LOL!! One thing I miss about riding a DW associated bike. Never having to be worried about the strength!!!!!
  • 1 0
 One way to be a great "salesman" is to make a fooking kick arse bike that everybody drools over that rides like a dream on a cutting edge technology that the whole industry has been waiting for for 2 years . And then far exceed everybody's already High expectations by running it on a Frame that you personally design from the engineering stage to the finish welds. I think your right , DW is a great salesman. One big differnce between a great salesmen and DW,though, is that great salesamn creat absolutely nothing!!!

stupid statement
  • 2 0
 Bike looks SO nice! Such a fresh design for the Wilson. Great suspension design, devinci's got it right! Hoping to see the bike on the Podium! Should be a true winner!
  • 1 0
 Man I tried the bike at MSA... This bike should be renamed. It has nothing to do with it's predecesors. It is supple,very plush, strong and laterally stiffer then ever. Great job Devinci.
  • 1 0
 Is it just me, or does the chainstay and wheelbase look just a touch on the short side for a DH bike? I guess this will be a good bike for the rider that favours nimbleness in tight terrain over stability at speed.
  • 2 0
 it is short. so is a demo or a sunday and sam had no trouble with stability at speed.
  • 4 0
 apart from when he fell over at world champs
  • 2 1
 are you fu*@ing crazy!
are you really trying to blame his short chainstay for him falling over at the worlds?
that takes the cake and you might be retarded
  • 1 0
 I really love the little "fender" on the back, it really just adds the that little extra thing to it, i just can't explain it it's just completes the bike for me. But none the less, it's such a beautiful piece of art.
  • 1 0
 ummmm, talk about heaps of chain growth. The main pivot is so high on the seat tube. Won't this cause an issue with snapped chains and bad pedal feedback? Awesome looking bike though!
  • 1 0
 if you look at a side-view of the bike on the devinci website, the pivot location is almost in-line with the top of the chainring, so I don't think it will be that bad.
  • 1 0
 But chain growth is effected by center-to-center distance change of the BB and rear hub. The fact that it is almost in line with the top chainring doesn't mean anything. If the pivot was in front of or behind the BB, then it's distance from the BB wouldn't matter as much, but it is almost 90 degrees to the BB to rear hub center-to-center line making it in the worst place for chain growth. Any way you look at it, this set up has the main pivot further away from the BB than most bike designs that I've seen.
  • 1 0
 You're right... then I too wonder how it will be affected then!
  • 2 0
 Man you btches need to decide if you want a bike that looks good or rides well. I will take a frame who has curves and rides well over how a frame looks any day.
  • 1 0
 i've always disliked non symmetrical frame designs(chain stays aren't aligned, shock is set to the left, pivots not centered either) things like that.

other than that it looks good. always nice to see companies change it up
  • 1 0
 i dig the carbon skid guard and fender. the bike has a nice suuuuuper low slung look to it and i dig the idea of a 10.5" stroke shock. i'll take the extra weight penalty for the tunability.
  • 1 0
 deffinetly not a a 10.5" stroke, it's 10.5" in length by 3.5" stoke
  • 1 0
 There's about 4 sets of geo out on the web, I'd have to say i want to trust the one on the Devinci website although it does seem really short there. I don't suppose anyone could clear this up for me?
  • 6 3
 looks soooooooo sick! i love it
  • 4 2
 looks amazing!
  • 13 55
flag fr3er1d3r (Sep 21, 2010 at 0:00) (Below Threshold)
 kind of resembles the tr450 at first glance
  • 59 6
 ah a little but more like the evil revolt
  • 2 0
 QUITE IMPRESSED!
  • 8 0
 Watching that back end compress at 1:35 it just looks unbeleivble responsive. wish i could afford one Frown Amazing job Devinci, props
  • 6 0
 Man I thought my 2010 Wilson was nice!.... This is something else!
  • 4 1
 looks really burly, how much does it weigh? I like the curvy tubes too
  • 2 0
 That looks soooo sick. And the video, that just made me want not only the bike but that trail also.
  • 1 0
 siiiiiiiiiiiiick!!!!
  • 5 0
 Dam, it's the good looking baby of the session 88 and Evil revolt
  • 2 1
 FOR ALL PREVIOUS WILSON OWNER. i'm scare to get one of those even if they look delicious. do you think they will have the same slack rear end issue?... if not it may be one of the sickess 2011 bike.
  • 2 0
 I've ridden it, and the back end on the new Wilson is unbelievably stiff. No wet noodle anymore!
  • 2 3
 Yet another 'new' platform from Dave Weagle Rolleyes

As for the bike, looks sick - Good to see all the weight being central and low.
  • 2 0
 thats the sickest bike ad that iv seen!!! nice river gap!!
  • 3 0
 that drop at the end was insane. i would be scared shitless doing that
  • 1 0
 YAaaa nice devinci ridee! mine for nest year i guess...
  • 1 6
flag RMFwannabe (Sep 21, 2010 at 15:11) (Below Threshold)
 It does not resemble a TR450 at all or an Evil, Transition has no technology or even suspension advancements, this Devinci does. Devinci For Life.
  • 4 3
 Suspension advancements? This is exactly the same linkage as a Sunn Radical to name just one - That bike has been around for more than a decade. Different leverage ratio's maybe, but surely you cant just give it a fancy name and say its some newly developed system?
  • 1 0
 I said that Transition has made no suspension advancements, they are very basic but Devinci is really nice, but I guess it does look like a Evil Revolt a little bit. It's not even like the Sunn Radical! Haha
  • 2 1
 The tubing is nothing like a Sunn I agree, but the linkage is the same (Except for the shock being mounted to the top tube instead of the downtube if you want to be anal). Granted this thing has a concentric pivot at the dropouts too, but thats hardly enough to warrant the whole 'pushing boundaries' idea imo.
  • 3 1
 LMFAO! lol

They rave about pedaling performance, yet not once do you see the rider pedal in their promotional video! Great job of "Promoting" that pedaling efficiency! lol
  • 4 1
 second video @ 1:43, makes me proud to be a Canadian!
  • 2 0
 X2 dude...
  • 1 0
 X 2²!
  • 2 0
 i got goose bumps from the video haha, awesome bike!
  • 1 0
 That promo vid is SWEET! Gets me amp'd! Who's the rider? Who filmed it? Tip of the hat!!
This is going to be most improved bike of the decade.
  • 1 0
 I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure that it is Evan Schwartz.
  • 1 0
 Yep, it's Evan.
  • 4 1
 It almost looks like the evil revolt ??
  • 2 0
 ****GREAT JOB DEVINCI****
je suis fiere d'etre avec vous...from Chicoutimi..Smile
  • 2 0
 Probably a good bike. It just looks so chunky compared to so many other top DH bikes.
  • 4 5
 God that bike is ugly, am i the only person seeing the fact it has no lines that flow match up or work. it looks like something from 8 years ago at best, and now downhill bikes are sleeker and sexier than ever this looks like a dinosaur in comparison. hate its looks, cant say about the ride as i love my single pivot and every abp bimke ive ridden, so we'll see!
  • 1 0
 I use to think like you until I saw the beast in person. It is def. not the nicest bike but...It stands out! And myself being a single pivot lover as well, I was surprised to see and feel the sensitivity of this design. Give it a try and see...You will be surprised!
  • 2 0
 nice bike, Hey Mike, get your leg over this one and let us know how it compares to the new session!
  • 2 0
 just like a big Sunn radical, vouilloz already ride this kind of bike...
but really nice Wink
  • 2 0
 im a little disappointed all dh/fr frames are starting to look way too similar.
  • 1 0
 forget looks.. base a bike on it's riding characteristics
  • 2 0
 It DOES look an awful lot like a Revolt with a new paint job, but if it works, shred it up!!
  • 1 0
 woah sweetness.... thats such a sick bike. the sus is so supple and the geometry and centre of gravity are all right. good stiff new rear end. i like. a lot.
  • 1 0
 A little mud guard to keep the crap out of the rear shock would be a nice addition.
  • 1 0
 there's one you can buy from Devinci made for the bike
  • 1 0
 and now its time to buy the frame because this summer it will cost a bit more
  • 2 0
 looks like a demo front end and a revolt rear
  • 1 0
 How much are these frames going to cost? im wanting one, and im soon to be getting money Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Low leverage ratio, short chainstays and dave`s signature swingarm look,Good job!
  • 1 0
 Rode these a couple weeks ago at Whistler for the dealer show. They're absolutely beautiful to ride.
  • 2 0
 It looks like the Revolt because Dave Weagle designed both bikes.
  • 2 0
 Pretty much same design as scotty's hand built Katipo bikes
  • 1 0
 Gloss black with purple anodising.....erm...yes, i'll take it! That is is one beast of a bike!
  • 2 0
 rear suspension is so responsive at 1:36
  • 2 0
 looks ugly & we won't see them in Australia thats for sure!
  • 2 0
 Weagle is the bill gates of bike suspension.
  • 1 0
 i cant believe at the end of the video david weagle didnt ride off with it!
  • 1 0
 Sick bike!
How much does it weigh??, does it come with the custom shock on it??
  • 2 0
 absolout rippage!
  • 1 0
 they ride pretty nice too Smile
  • 1 0
 That is so smooth and neat! well done devinci beautiful bike!
  • 3 4
 had a quick blast on this in Whistler and enjoyed it - was pretty lively with a bit of pop - more than I thought it would have. Still not as good as the Session 88 tho,
  • 1 0
 wow short chain stays for a dh bike
  • 1 0
 look up the demo and the sunday
  • 1 0
 short chainstay = better cornering
  • 1 0
 Strong, simple, smart. I like it!
  • 1 0
 On the lowest link of course
  • 2 2
 Yea the susp might be better and all... But it's horrendously fuck-ugly, and there was nothing wrong with the old design.
  • 1 0
 Yeah the Old One Looked So Unique !! so beautiful !!! so RAD !! and now ? it looks like just like tons of other frames :// no need to argue about its qualities but the look of it is just ... not cool at all !!
  • 2 0
 I'm with you there, the 2008-2010 Wilson looked amazing. I think this one would look a lot better if the top tube flowed right back to the seatpost and it was the bit with the shock mount on it that was welded inside the triangle instead. It's not a super ugly bike or anything, just not nearly as clean looking as the old wilson IMO. If anything the front triangle reminds me a lot of the older (pre-2009) Norco DH bikes, despite the very different linkage.
  • 1 0
 waaaaa this beautiful complete works!!!!!!!! i loved........
  • 1 0
 And what about the distrcit, frantik and hectik??
  • 1 0
 Frantik and Hektik have been replaced with a new platform in two bikes called the Dixon and Dexter. They also use thesplit pivot design, but are much simpler designs.
  • 1 0
 ok and what about the district?
  • 1 0
 Looks like the District is axed for 2011. They just have one Hucker.
  • 1 0
 What???? It cant be...
  • 1 0
 This just made my new bike choices difficult! This or a Cove Shocker.
  • 1 1
 So many nice bikes why would the shocker even be on that list?? I could see the DHR, M9, V-10c, Pivot Phoenix, Demo but the shocker yuck.

Will Devinci finally be available in the States now?
  • 1 0
 I hope so! There should not be any patent infringements with this. I just dig the Shocker and have been looking into getting it for next year.
  • 1 0
 yeah i rode a shocker and it really is poo compared to all these other frames
  • 1 0
 So What do you not like about the Shocker and what do you like about the other bikes better. I am looking for something that I can run DH with and also FR with.
  • 1 0
 i tried 2 different Shockers and they just felt sloppy, tracked horribly, pedaled horribly. I rode FSR bikes for years 03 Bighit, 04 demo9, 07 SXT, 08 demo8, 09 demo7 and always loved them. This year I built up a 2010 Glory and 09 Reign X they both do everything my past bikes did but even better. Spent a considerable amout of time on a Sunday and 951 also both great bikes. My choices in order are DW link bike DHR, VPP like the M9 and lastly the FSR Demo
  • 1 0
 Anyone know whether it would be on sale frame only?
  • 1 0
 we (freeborn - uk Devinci distrib.) will be offering frames, framesets (with forks, headset) and complete Wilson bikes for 2011
  • 1 0
 Nice, any ideas of prices yet?
  • 1 0
 oh my god that is so hench!
  • 1 0
 great frame Smile
  • 1 0
 Perfect Smile
  • 1 0
 PRICE!????
  • 1 0
 MSRP of 2700$ CAD for the frameset.
  • 1 0
 fukkkkk bike is soo sick
  • 1 0
 So cool!
  • 1 0
 DW = Great salesman!
  • 1 2
 that vid was primo legit to the max
  • 3 0
 the video shud include pedaling section, as per claimed "the ultimate ...

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