First Look: Mondraker's New Enduro and Trail Bikes

Oct 25, 2021 at 16:13
by Mike Levy  
The new Foxy Carbon is a 150mm-travel enduro bike that you can get with either a 160mm or 170mm fork.


Mondraker was one of the earliest brands to embrace the whole longer front-end, short stem combination that's so common today, first debuting their Forward Geometry many years ago on a range of bikes that included the then-new Foxy enduro platform. Today sees the Spanish brand release their latest version of the Foxy Carbon, a 150mm-travel bike they say is, "More enduro than ever,'' as well as the brand new Raze, a 130mm trail bike that combines ''the best of XC with the best of Enduro to create a bike without limits.''


2022 Foxy Carbon

The latest Foxy Carbon enduro bike is assembled around an all-new frame that delivers 150mm of travel and, on all but the XR model, a 160mm fork. If you're looking for a bit more travel and a bit less head angle, it's the XR version with a 170mm Öhlins RFX 36 and a TTX shock that's probably more your speed.

All three models use Mondraker's updated Zero suspension system and offer adjustable geometry via two shock positions to steepen the head angle from 64.5-degrees to 65-degrees, as well as 10mm of change at the chainstay.

Foxy Carbon Details

• Travel: 160mm front / 150mm rear
• Wheel size: 29"
• Carbon front and rear triangles
• Adjustable geometry
• MIND telemetry system
• Internal routing
• Threaded bottom bracket
• MSRP: TBA
• www.mondraker.com


The Foxy Carbon XR comes with Ohlins suspension and a 170mm-travel fork.
If you need to save some coin, the R model comes with Fox suspension and an NX drivetrain.
The Foxy Carbon RR comes with Ohlins suspension and a 12-speed SRAM GX drivetrain.


Mondraker's Forward Geometry saw them apply longer front-ends and shorter stems to their bikes as far back as 2013 when their reach numbers grew by a whopping 60mm overnight. But jump forward to 2021 and the Foxy's geometry might be considered more all-around than all-enduro by most riders, with the 64.5-degree head angle in the most relaxed position for the standard models (subtract half a degree for the XR.) A secondary shock position lets you bring that up to 65-degrees, while the chainstay shrinks from 445mm to 435mm. The seat angle is 75.5-degrees in the relaxed mode, gaining half a degree if you steepen the head angle.


Reach numbers grow by 20mm per size, starting at 450mm for the small, 470mm for the medium, 490mm for the large, and out to 510mm for the extra-large, and there are appropriately short seat tubes across all the sizes.



The new Raze is a 130mm-travel trail bike from Mondraker with a 150mm fork.


2022 Raze

The term 'trail bike' seems to be getting more ambiguous by the day, which makes a lot of sense given that what you might need from a trail bike could be a lot different than many other riders. Mondraker's take includes an all-new frame that delivers 130mm of rear-wheel-travel, a 150mm fork, and their Forward Geometry.

You'll also find their proprietary Mind telemetry system, the very same as used on the Foxy, that tells you how much performance you're getting from the dual-link Zero suspension system that has a rep for offering impressive efficiency.

Foxy Carbon Details

• Travel: 150mm front / 130mm rear
• Wheel size: 29"
• Carbon front and rear triangles
• MIND telemetry system
• Internal routing
• Threaded bottom bracket
• MSRP: TBA
• www.mondraker.com
How does Mondraker's Mind telemetry work? James Smurthwaite covered it earlier this year, and here's the gist according to him: The system is made up of two sets of components - a magnet fitted to the main pivot which is paired with a sensor on the top linkage, then another magnet fitted to the top of the fork lowers paired with the main hardware unit that fits into the steerer tube. The sensors on the linkage and in the steerer tube detect the strength of the magnetic fields 100 times per second to determine how much travel is being used; the further through the travel you are, the stronger the signal detected from the magnets. This information is added to GPS data that the system also collects and it is all fed back to the myMondraker app, which can tell riders to make changes to all of the adjustments including preload, compression and rebound according to their weight and riding style.




Mondraker says, "Want to compare lines on a downhill? Mind gives you all the info you need to decide whether to take the left line or the right. Bottoming out after landing a jump? Mind tells you where, when, and how it happened and shows you whether you need to improve your technique or adjust your suspension settings for the next time around."



The top-of-the-line Raze RR SL comes with Fox Factory suspension, a wireless AXS drivetrain, and DT Swiss' XCM1200 Carbon Spline 29 wheels.
The RR gives you a SRAM drivetrain and Fox Factory suspension.
You'll find Fox Performance suspension and DT Swiss' XM1700 Spline 29 on the Raze R.



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170 Comments

  • 160 2
 “Mind tells you where, when, and how it happened and shows you whether you need to improve your technique or adjust your suspension settings for the next time around."

This is the final step in mountain biking, replacing your friends who tell you you suck with automation that tells you that you suck.

I wonder if all that app telemetry will be used to inform warranty claims?
  • 23 0
 Thats the real reason behind it. No more JRA
  • 38 0
 @newbermuda: maybe I’ll get a lower rate on my bike insurance though
  • 54 0
 "whether you need to improve your technique or adjust your suspension settings"

I can tell you which one its going to be 99.9% of the time.

(Its the settings of course)
  • 29 0
 @Sardine: "Our app has detected you need to buy a new fork, now on sale"
  • 3 4
 I have a 2018 Foxy RRSL. If I bought a new one, the first ting I would do it tear all that Mind crap off of it.
  • 10 0
 The app would crash all the time from an infinite loop error of it telling me I suck.
  • 13 0
 My mind keeps telling me no, but my bodddddy
  • 1 1
 @Digsafe: MindPhuck LOL
  • 3 0
 @whambat: #onErrorResumeNEXT
  • 5 0
 MIND interfaces with Siri and the Google assistant, to maximize the heckling on the way downhill. Then, on the drive home, your Apple Carplay or Android Drive gets in on the act. Finally, when you walk in the front door, Alexa says, "Oh SNAP! You sucked today!"
  • 1 0
 @Falcon991: Then IG cross posts your Strava file to Facebook.
  • 2 0
 Strava tells me I suck……
  • 1 0
 @Sardine: You're god damned right it is!
  • 1 0
 @carlostrancex2: ha.
  • 1 0
 @Mtmw Is ther a way to send you a chocolate? You deserved it!
  • 3 0
 @pakleni: I think I just say “hey Siri order candy” and then later I get a package in the mail and it’s filled with sand
  • 85 5
 I love my bike but I sure wish it looked like a Mondraker
  • 22 1
 Sooo spindly. It's pretty amazing they are able to retain the same tube shape and design between 160mm bike and 130mm bike. They all look sooo light.
  • 53 0
 They can talk all they want about suspension, geo and spec, everyone knows the real reason for buying a Mondraker is always the looks.
  • 41 2
 I am getting to fat for bikes this skinny. Please makes bikes with beefy tubes so I look more slim.
  • 10 1
 I've made up my mind I'm tired of wasting all my precious time You've got to be all mine, all mine Foxy Lady -Hendrix
  • 8 6
 @PHeller: they are light! exceptionally so. It simply proves that "we made it heavier to be more robust" is complete Bollocks. the saying should be "we just added extra material because we couldn't be assed to engineer it correctly"
  • 5 6
 I honestly don't. I think the extremely thin top tube looks way out of proportion. No matter how strong the frame actually is, I would always ride in fear of breaking it.
  • 10 0
 Man I love that thin top tube! Guess I'm not the only one.
  • 6 0
 @BenTheSwabian: I've put my 2019 Foxy RR SL through hell and back - and mind you that's the even lighter version of that frame. From freeride to double black tech, the frame has not complained. I've had some horrendous crashes on it as well. However, rear linkage is a total pain in the ass to clean mud out of. Also, the frame limits dropper post length. I'm stuck with a 150mm and I really want it longer.
  • 3 0
 @BenTheSwabian: have you ever broken or even seen a broken top tube? Fahgetabout!
  • 4 7
 @Yerts: I'm sure the frame is plenty stiff and very durable, it's just that its slender tube profile doesn't inspire the utmost confidence.
  • 5 4
 @drfunsocks: As a matter of fact I have seen a top tube break, very recently aswell. My riding buddys' Specialized Enduro cracked right where the top tube meets the seat tube.
  • 6 4
 You know how you get confidence? You ride it and not worry about what something look likes like.

"I must only sit on chairs made of solid concrete because anything else gives me the impression of failure."
  • 7 0
 @BenTheSwabian: doesn't that prove the point that looks ≠ durability? the enduro's top tube is much beefier looking than the mondraker, and it can still crack
  • 2 0
 @Yerts: onneup
  • 3 0
 That Raze grey/yellow colorway is so sexy it hurts my soul
  • 2 0
 @Ttimer: so true. Gorgeous bikes. Previously with harsh as steel balls rear ends. I really hope they have improved the kinematics. And self destructing pivot bearing.
  • 3 0
 Look pretty cool except for the super slack seat angle, my knees wince at the sight of one.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: Not really, having owned the last gen of these, it proves that they can make a super flexy bike that cracks...
  • 2 0
 @Yerts: Don't agree. Owned the previous version, was like riding a wet noodle compared to a Santa Cruz, for example. Lots of other little design flaws that pissed me off too - oh, and I cracked the front triangle in a few places...
  • 1 0
 @Yerts: that frame certainly looks like it was designed by people who don't ride in the UK or PNW (other wet, muddy locations are available)...
  • 1 0
 @SATN-XC:
  • 1 0
 @BenTheSwabian: That sounds like a joint breaking, rather than the top tube itself.
  • 44 0
 "Better not give them the price just yet"
...
"Good idea!"
  • 13 1
 If the bikes won't ship for 6 months, who knows what the USD will be worth by then?
  • 10 0
 @nouseforaname: we'll be buying things with turnips by then
  • 7 1
 @nouseforaname: it's already worth zero, we just don't know it yet.
  • 24 0
 Can maunfacturers stop using daft propriatory headsets for there cable routing :/ It might be a tad neater looking but trying to find a suitable replacement a few years down the line is going to be a complete pain in the rear.
  • 4 5
 Cabling? It'll be all ride-by-wire soon. AXS everything.
  • 7 1
 Are people really that bothered by cables? There are many things I see people bitch about in the PB comment section, but rarely do I see people complain about their cable routing...
  • 12 0
 @TTR54: can't wait for AXS steering
  • 4 0
 @stumphumper92: I am but I'm also a mechanic so the absolute last thing I want to do when I go ride is fiddle with cable tension or fuss with a dropper because my cable gnarp fell off.
  • 4 0
 @stumphumper92: Yeah more than a few people especially if they work on there own bikes or a mechanics. I'm the former and trying to feed the rear gear cable outer through a commencal meta666 rear swing arm was enough to put me off internal cable routing for life
  • 2 0
 @TTR54: AXS brakes, with only a 10ms latency!!!
  • 2 0
 @McMeta666: oh that is by far the worst job I have ever done on a bike! The 2 90 degree turns I'm that swing arm is absurd!
  • 1 0
 @McMeta666: I mean about hiding their cables. Internal routing can be a pain in the ass.. I've not seen someone complain about too much of their rear brake/derailleur cable showing... Usually it is the opposite.
  • 1 0
 @stumphumper92: I hate cables for sure. What a stupid thing to need to manage on a bike when we dont have to. They get dirty, stretch, rust and need to be run through your frame. I will never buy a non electric drivetrain ever again.

I have a couple bikes with them still and thats fine. But come new build time or drivetrain replacement its di2 or etap 100% as those bikes are a dream to operate comparatively.

And no I'm not joking even though this sounds ridiculous.
  • 1 0
 Looks more like a proprietary stem from the pictures. Either way, I agree. Internal cable routing in the fram is good enough. More faffing for 2cm less visible cable is pointless.
  • 22 0
 "If you need to save some coin, the R model comes with Fox suspension"

That's a phrase I never thought I'd hear
  • 25 12
 Tell me, dear reviewer. Why don't you mention the stuff that's should be mentioned by a tech editor? Why didn't you mention, what *EXACTLY* has changed since the last generation. Number of bearings? Size of pivots? Size of bearings?

WHY IS IT SO HARD, to write some useful stuff? What about the proprietary headset?
  • 12 1
 For the people that actually want to know about the bike. The bike has less bearings - not good not bad - the load of the same suspension layout will be distributed on fewer bearings. The bike has smaller bearings - not good. The lower shock mount bushing has changed size - from unusual 22.2x10 mm to usual 30x8 mm - quite good. The lower link is much better designed and bearings are better protected from mud... - very good New fender that will protect the shock - very good.
  • 1 0
 @embi: what about changes to suspension kinematic’s?
  • 4 0
 @gspottickles918: Can't tell you that, because I don't have a linkage design software. But it costs few bucks and hopefully every decent mtb reviewer has one (lol i wish).
  • 36 6
 Is this a review? Does it say review anywhere?
  • 1 1
 Sounds like your awesome and should be working for Pinkbike.....
  • 1 0
 @embi: As they still use a bushing on that lower shock mount, they design will be flawwed. So much rotation, so much flogging out bushings.
  • 1 0
 It's prettier. That's the only thing that matters in this bikes niche anyway.
  • 4 0
 @mikelevy: There is a review needed here. A review of the title.
  • 6 3
 @mikelevy: It says first look. Not a press release. I can find this info in the newsletter. I don't see the added value, that should be here given your editor experience.
  • 1 1
 @Linc: I agree with you. However the smaller diameter allows the usage of bearings.

www.tftuned.com/fox-shock-mounting-hardware-bearing-roller-full-complement-8x30mm/p3730
  • 1 0
 
  • 1 0
 @embi: can you tell me more about the bearings?
  • 1 0
 @gspottickles918: no changes. the foxy is the same(no change) and the Raze is brand new(no change from non-existent. lol)
  • 14 0
 Me: "My frame cracked, i need to get a warranty replacement"
MD: "Well, our telemetry system said you did some unallowed huge jumps on that bike an therefore the warranty void... "
  • 11 0
 The black, green, and yellow Foxy reminds me of an old Lotus or the Harrod's Mclaren F1 GTR. Yum.
  • 3 0
 was thinking the same thing, giving off euro racing vibes. Love that color scheme.
  • 3 1
 It's a bit jhon deer
  • 13 2
 Ohlins gets me a bit excited. Not even sure why.
  • 20 0
 Found the moto guy.
  • 3 0
 @withdignityifnotalacrity: Haha not even! They just look sexy Smile
  • 4 1
 @j-p-i: it's funny because in moto world Ohlins is the shit. Think EXT, like top tier goodness. And in MTB world they're just kind of...meh. Though I've heard their more recent stuff is really good.
  • 1 0
 @withdignityifnotalacrity: Ohlins has been in the game for like 2 years.....


I refuse to count the first iterations where it was trash Xfusion internals in a haphazardly designed chasis. they 100% shit the bed on that, but the new shit is better than just about anything short of Intend.
  • 11 1
 this is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
  • 6 1
 They sure do look wild, but I remember a time when Mondraker actually was at the bleeding edge of geometry development. You could even say they invented the longer, lower slacker movement. These seem almost conservative in that regard.
  • 8 0
 Maybe they found the sweet spot? The slackening of every bike has to stop somewhere.
  • 1 0
 @MillerReid: Grim Donut Vx-->∞ does not agree.
  • 8 0
 What is that thing under the CSU on all those bikes?
  • 14 0
 Never MIND.
  • 1 0
 Not sure but it could be part of their MIND telemetry system.
  • 2 1
 A mudguard...
  • 6 0
 A wheel...
  • 4 0
 @noakeabean: mindguard
  • 5 1
 Well, if the Minds could talk to other bike Minds, and let's just say for example, your friends bike Mind, and they do not get along with each other.... would they try to sabotage each other? Like f*ck with each other's suspension settings?
  • 11 8
 Reach numbers grow by 20mm per size, starting at 450mm for the small, 470mm for the medium, 490mm for the large, and out to 510mm for the extra-large, and there are appropriately short seat tubes across all the sizes. as an owner of a 2021 carbon foxy rr, I can assure you that these are the same numbers as before. lol
  • 13 0
 Pretty sure that’s just explaining that there’s a 20mm increase between each size, not that they’ve gotten longer. 450 + 20 = 470.
  • 1 0
 yea old frame with flip chip
  • 4 2
 @slumgullion: yep on the 4th re-read, I see that now. just lazy writing. lol
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: kind of. a bit sad on the Foxy, but they were developing the all new Raze so it's a bit understandable that they didn't change a bike that's already really really good.
  • 4 0
 @conoat: So lazy reading them?
  • 6 0
 So medium is large and large is XL now, got it.
  • 1 0
 Yeah - ideal bike for a small guy with a lot of coin
  • 2 0
 These frames look nearly identical to my 2018 foxy 29er. What are the big changes between the last generation and this one in terms of geometry? No major changes to reach, STA, chainstay length, or HTA as far as I can tell...
  • 11 0
 I did the math for the nerds out there.

Changes from 2018 model year:

ST length -10mm
TT length -8mm
BB drop +5mm
BB height +7mm
Effective STA -0.5deg
HTA -1deg
wheelbase +17mm
stack height +9mm
  • 1 0
 @graham2017:

Yea who slackens their seat angle out even more. I guess Laurie Greenhill being very short means people with long legs just aren’t customers they want....
  • 1 0
 @rich-2000: I'm 6'4 on an XL '18 Foxy XR. The only change that would make me consider swapping frames would be a steeper STA. Everything else is pretty dialed in for a guy my size (minus sometimes feeling like a stretch limousine around switchbacks)
  • 7 3
 Are mondrakers good? They look like they are using super thin tubing, will they hold up on gnarly stuff ok?
  • 9 0
 lol. yes. they "hold up" I have thoroughly thrashed mine from Whistler to Madeira to Ft. William and back.

also, ask Brook MacDonald if they hold up...Smile
  • 1 0
 Go ask Laurie Greenland and Brook Macdonald if they "hold up". Also they are in a way the brand that came up with the whole longer, lower slacker kind of thing. They practically invented modern mountain bike geometry.
  • 1 1
 @conoat: cool, I ride an ol M9 so I’m a bit skeptical of some modern bike designs. Good to know they are at least Whistler proof.
  • 3 0
 @conoat: Exactly how many frames did he go through in a season? Saying they can survive a single pro run doesn't mean all that much. Some of these guys run new everything for every race.
  • 1 0
 @BenTheSwabian: they kind of did but stuck with same ESTA and short rear center for every size. At best they got it half right. Geometron might have come a little bit later but they actually got it right by properly proportioning each size because it turns out different sizes people are different.
  • 4 0
 Sadly, no. The rear ends in particular flex a lot (like buzzing tyres into seatstays in turns) - but so does the whole frame. The lower bushing flogs out all the time. The cool sloping top tube cracks at the intersection with the seat knob tube thing. You can't run a top chainguide in proper position. Max 34t front chain ring. Max 180mm rear rotor (although this might have changed). Weird kinematics that are hard to tune and never really felt right. I could go on.
  • 2 0
 @BenTheSwabian: that whole bit about inventing the longer lower slacker movement is pretty ironic considering they aren't really on the bleeding edge of it now.
  • 1 0
 @Bobtheguy: they were actually only longer, with a short stem. They invented forward geometry using frame length not slack angles to increase wheelbase
  • 2 0
 From my expirience (I am riding a aluminum Foxy 29 since 3 seasons) they hold up pretty good but they are a little bit like a italian sportscar. It rides and looks very good but it has some little issues here and there. When you wrench on it, it doesn´t seem to be that thought to the end like for the bolts you have to use different allen keys, the BB needs an extra spacer because otherwise the chainring is like only 0.2 mm away from the chainstay, they spec´d an coil shock even through it doesn´t work that well with the suspension charactersistics, the rear axle broke once, the stem doesn´t seem to hold up that good (it twists a tiny bit when you ride a super blocky and slow trail).

But after all the geometry works so well and it feels very well balanced....but it seems they still havent managed to but any downtube protection on their carbon models Big Grin
  • 1 1
 "They practically invented modern mountain bike geometry"

@BenTheSwabian: That is a bold statement. In fact, the only thing they brought to the table was the zero stems, which nobody uses anymore. My 2009 Stinky Six was 2-3 degrees slacker than the 2009 Foxy.
  • 1 0
 @alexsin: no one does that. literally no one. I think Kerr and Pivot factory team used one set of Reynolds carbon wheels for an entire season in 2019. one set. no one is using brand new every thing for every single race. lol

as for the Summum frames, I think Greenland and Macdonald both used 2 frames each in 2019(I keep using that year because it's the last unmolested year), and that's becuase the frames were set up differently for different types.

My personal experience is that the foxy frames are very very tough. I have seen 2 break. one I did be smashing the downtube into a tree at around 15mph(an honest 15 as I was going way faster before I went off line), and punching a decent hole in it. still rode it out mind you. lol the second one was an older 27.5 version that developed a crack around the BB after a massive case that resulted in the chainring being smashed in half, so clearly an impact issue.
  • 2 0
 @miuan: if modern geo is just a slack HTA to you, sure.....
  • 1 0
 @GuinnessRCD:
Almost exact same experience
  • 2 0
 @Linc: I have the current alloy foxy. No rear wheel contact with frame. Lower bearings have been wearing but maybe due to cheap stock ones. Have a proper chainguide running no issues. Rear rotor up to 200mm no issues. Ohlins rear air shock at 150psi for 85kg rider and it feels great.
  • 4 0
 The Raze R would be in my wheelhouse.... In the penthouse of my wheelhouse, but that's the one.
  • 6 4
 Looks great. Good to see they are keeping the wheels the same size like all manufacturers should do. Keeping it real with the same size wheels!!
  • 6 1
 oh dear lord! it's MattyP76, the Mullet Avenger!!!!!
  • 6 1
 @conoat: I like that... The Mullet Avenger.. Thanks
  • 2 1
 full 29 aint dead!!
  • 1 0
 @MattP76: so I have to ask, what is your preferred matching wheel size? Are you a 29 guy? 27.5? 26? Strictly 20? I'm a 27.5 guy myself.
  • 1 0
 @Beaconbike: As long as the wheels are the same size I will ride anything. This odd size wheel fad has to stop.
  • 1 0
 I'll always have a special place in my heart for old Foxy 29. It was a special bike. Looks like Mondraker took some needed steps to correct the small issues I had, primarily the too short chainstay lengths on a L frame.
  • 4 0
 Price TBA = Too Bad a*shole (you can’t afford it anyway)
  • 2 0
 A small bike that is actually small would be nice. 450mm reach and 600mm ETT is pretty damn big for a "Small", riders under 170cm need not apply...
  • 1 0
 It's not as big as it sounds as the stem is a couple of centimetres shorter, but definitely not suoer small. Also the shock position does limit dropper insertion for smaller people.
  • 1 0
 Sooo, are we in for a new, super-enduro, long-travel Dune next year (with, let’s say, 170mm of travel)? Cause there’s now a signifficant gap between their dh and enduro bikes…
  • 2 0
 At first I thought those were new shocks just be the way they're presented haha
  • 3 3
 mondrakers look slick and can't fault the quality but I still wont be able to stop thinking about that thin top tube, there's just something about that my mind doesn't trust, maybe I'm just used to beefy looking frames
  • 5 0
 the thing you cannot see is how wide it is. it's the same amount of material, just sort of flattened out. it's also much stiffer laterally(but obviously not vertically....but a top tube need not be strong in that direction as its a compression member).
  • 1 1
 @conoat: I'm not questioning that, this is purely based on looks, using a thin framem in the back of my mind there will always be a thought it might break

it could be the strongest frame in the world and I would still have that thought with such a thin looking frame if you get my point
  • 1 0
 @stephenzkie: that thinness coupled with the lines is WHY they are good looking though. Spanish design cannot be argued with. lol
  • 1 0
 @conoat: yep agree with that, they are pretty sexy
  • 1 0
 @mikeleavy
Have you been able to ride the Raze? Is it short enough in the travel for you? I know that you are a fan of the short travel Mondraker
  • 1 0
 My Sonder Transmitter had the same flat top tube. Definitely different but was super solid. Even made it easier to get in and out of my repair stand
  • 1 0
 Got to say, the geo doesn't seem too up-to-date at neither of the bikes. Reach is okay for a given size, but sta and therefore ttl are meh.
  • 2 0
 This gives a whole new meaning to Mind The Gap.
  • 2 1
 Has anyone seen new mondrakers in the wild yet? i don't recall seeing any in the last 2.5 years
  • 2 0
 My local shop sells them the instant they come in. I watched them put a F Podium on the floor and sell it an hour later. Yes, they are out there.
  • 2 1
 literally 2 in my garage and the few hundered I have sold....Smile
  • 1 0
 Still pretty rare in the states, but they also just came to our shores in the last 4 years.
  • 3 1
 @whambat: I know. I was integral in them showing up in the states! Smile
  • 2 0
 Is MIND actually available in the US for 2022?
  • 3 1
 Would be nice to see a ride review
  • 4 0
 It would, but I think these bikes are a ways out...
  • 1 0
 damn. that green and black and yellow one. maybe DVO is paying attention to that color scheme.
  • 3 0
 Looks like I need a Raze
  • 2 0
 that "fender" belongs in the round file
  • 1 0
 Loving the look of the grey / yellow raze
  • 1 0
 Pretty big reach for that slack of a STA....
  • 1 0
 Looks like it'll be q small mortgage to buy one
  • 1 0
 I wouldn't Mind having that on my bike.
  • 1 1
 150mm enduro !! This a allmoantian in 2017 and now it's a enduro !! , No more mondraker is on the way to make a big mistake
  • 3 3
 Geo looks pretty cool. Oh hang on, 2013 called, they want their seat angle back.
  • 1 0
 So a system for people with no FNG idea how to set up their bike.
  • 1 0
 Dunning-Kruger effect who?
  • 1 0
 @MaplePanda: I am a suspension tuner, It's my job. What do you do?
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 @trashpander275: what exactly is your job as a suspension tuner? And FYI you're arguing with a 17 year old. His job is probably shredding the Northshore like he should be!
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 @trashpander275: The reason your job exists at all is that some riders aren’t as good at setting suspension up as you.

Different people, different strengths and weaknesses. It’s no reason to look down on people who don’t have pro-level suspension setup skills.
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 No 27.5 wheel option, NO THANKS!! Not everyone wants a 29er!
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 No, they don't all want 29ers but its pretty obvious at this point in the wheel size game that most do in fact want a 29er. Just look at the comments here, nobody else has mentioned this and the PB comment section is a pretty healthy sample size of mountain bikers. None of them seem side with this thought process.
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 That raze tho
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 @nskerb looks like a fender of sorts
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 these bikes truly have a MIND of their own
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 MSRP: TBA (to be available).
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 Shame they’re all Sram
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