First Look: Taking e*thirteen's New Vario Dropper Post Apart

Apr 23, 2020 at 17:23
by Mike Levy  
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"Our overarching goal was to offer a robust post with tool-free travel adjustment,'' e*thirteen's Connor Bondlow told me while we disassembled their new dropper in his workshop. And with a straightforward design that's dead-simple to work on, the fresh Vario looks like it ticks those boxes.

The all-black Vario is available in two travel options: One with 120mm to 150mm of drop, and another with 150mm to 180mm of drop, both being adjustable by 30mm in just 5mm increments, without tools, via a clever rotating upper bushing. It's controlled by a redesigned remote, and e*thirteen says that it weighs between 550 and 618-grams, depending on the model.

Vario Details

• Travel: 120 - 150mm, 150 - 180mm (adj)
• 30mm travel adj, 5mm increments
• 3D forged, one-piece head
• M6 T25 hardware
• Redesigned, 3-position remote
• Weight: 550-grams (30.9mm, 120 - 150mm)
• Sizes: 30.9, 31.6mm
• Max length: 460mm (120-150), 520mm (150-180)
• MSRP: $209 USD (post), $49.95 (remote)
• More info: www.ethirteen.com
The Vario sells for $209 USD, and the remote is sold separately for $49.95. Those who prefer to look after things themselves will also be stoked to see small parts, rebuild kits, and cartridges available directly from e*thirteen's website at very reasonable prices.


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The $209 USD Vario offers 30mm of travel adjustment in 5mm increments, with one version running from 120mm to 150mm, and another from 150mm to 180mm. Expect even shorter and longer versions down the road.
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A redesigned, $49.95 USD remote is said to be more adjustable, more ergonomic, and more better.


What's Outside the Vario?

One-Piece, 3D-Forged Head: Fewer pieces, fewer troubles, right? That's the idea, with e*thirteen going from using a separate head and stanchion on their old design to a forged one-piece setup on the Vario that mirrors how it's done on other high-end droppers. That means there's no head/stanchion interface to make annoying creaks, and the whole thing should weigh less than a two-piece layout to boot.

Speaking of noises, who here has chased creaking seatpost hardware? Talk about annoying... e*thirteen has moved from M5 bolts to larger M6 hardware with T25 heads and spring washers, along with semi-captive nuts on the other end rather than the usual barrel-nut arrangement. The changes should mean that everything stays quieter and tight for longer. On top of that, the redesigned top and bottom seat rail clamps offer more support, an extra 12mm of fore/aft adjustment, and a whopping 28-degrees of angle adjustment in case your bike has a wonky seat tube. Wonky being too slack, of course.


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New seat clamp hardware (left) offers more support and way more adjustment range.
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Hardware has been beefed up to M6 T25 bolts with spring washers (on the left), and they've ditched the sometimes-noisy barrels on the other end. The head is also a one-piece, 3D-forged unit.


New Remote: e*thirteen's previous thumb paddle remote was actually pretty good, but they've updated its adjustment range and have gone with a more ergonomic paddle position. It still resembles a gutted shifter, but now there are three horizontal settings instead of two to ensure it plays nice with everyone's brakes, and the paddle's resting position is adjusted via a set screw rather than the old SRAM-like band-clamp.

Like a lot of newer remotes, the thumb paddle has been tucked up closer to the underside of the grip, the intention being that riders don't have to unwrap their digits as much to reach the paddle. It also uses a firm return spring that gives it a super-positive feel, as well as a large barrel adjuster that makes on-trail adjustments easy; it shouldn't ever seize up. One more small but thoughtful detail: The same 3mm hex key can be used to install the remote on your handlebar, adjust the paddle's position, and clamp the cable. I've always argued that nothing on your bike should require a hex key smaller than 3mm, and we're slowly getting there.


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The new remote (bottom) is simpler and easier to use.
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Reach adjustment on the new remote (bottom) is now done via a set screw.


The $49.95 USD remote is sold separately, as are a bunch of the Vario's small parts. Assuming it's not a warranty issue, a new cartridge costs $49.95 as well, a rebuild kit (bushings, seals, keys, etc.) $24.99, replacement seat clamp hardware is $20.99, and the actuator assembly sells for $15.99 USD.



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The best way to learn about anything is to take it apart. In the Vario's case, it took only a few minutes to reassemble.


What's Inside the Vario?

Tool-free Travel Change: The robust and easy to work on theme continues inside the Vario, with e*thirteen employing a tool-free method to adjust the post's travel and overall length. In fact, it's much like how it's done inside some suspension forks: Top-out spacers of differing heights. While a spacer at bottom-out would limit travel but still let the fork extend to its full length, a different top-out spacer can be used at the opposite end to literally hold the fork down in its travel.

This is the exact idea used inside many dropper posts where the top-out spacer also acts as the upper bushing, including the new Vario, but e*thirteen did incorporate one clever trick.


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The stepped top-out spacer, otherwise known as the upper busing, is rotated to adjust the Vario's travel and overall length.
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The post's long brass keys align with the steps in the upper bushing to determine travel and length in 5mm increments and within a 30mm range.


Instead of having to use a bunch of top-out spacers of differing heights, it's a single piece that has a sort of stepped shape to it. These "steps" interact with the two (new and longer) brass keys on the stanchion to limit how far the post can extend, thereby also limiting its travel.

To e*thirteen's credit, Bondlow did say that Tomo Ichikawa's stepped, adjustable headset spacer design served as inspiration.

The upper bushing, AKA the stepped top-out spacer, offers 30mm of adjustment range in 5mm increments, and it's a job that requires zero tools. All you need to do is lower the post a bit, unthread the seal head and pull it up to expose the spacer, rotate said spacer to the appropriate position, then reinstall the collar.

To make the job a real no-brainer, e*thirteen put an indexing mark on the spacer that you simply line up with the laser-etched travel indicators.
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When a full teardown is needed, laser-etched arrows on the outer tube make aligning the brass keys with the channels a quick job.

The idea behind all those 5mm increments in travel is to get the most possible drop out of your seat post. With there being around one zillion different seat tube lengths out there, this should let you lower the post in your frame as much as possible while still achieving proper leg extension and the maximum amount of travel. Maybe your frame and inseam length allows you 175mm of drop, or maybe it ends up being 160, or maybe you're on the shorter post and can only eke out 135mm; the Vario's adjustment range allows for any and all of that.

New Bushings, Proven Cartridge Since we're talking bushings, e*thirteen also updated the bottom one that rides on the inner tube with channels to let air pass by easier. When the post is lowered, it has to displace air in the same way that a damper has to displace oil, and the channels let that air pass through with less resistance. That way the post can drop with, well, less resistance, and e*thirteen says that this, along with the Wintek cartridge inside of it, means that 20-percent less force is needed to lower it than some of their competition.

Wait, what the heck is a Wintek? They're the people who manufacture the gas-charged cartridge that's inside the Vario and a bunch of other dropper posts on the market. It's not as interesting as some trick, previously unthought-of internals, but the relatively inexpensive Wintek cartridge's impressive reliability means it made zero sense for e*thirteen to use something proprietary. If you're not a suspension company selling your own dropper post, the proprietary route can be nothing but trouble.

Taking the Vario apart gives us a look at what's going on inside e*thirteen's new dropper post, but it's certainly not a review. Stay tuned.

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119 Comments
  • 62 5
 I've heard e13 had some issues with their first post, but my personal experience with their parts and customer service has been great. This new post checks all the boxes for me... great price, features, and a proven cartridge. My current fox transfer has a lot of stiction when trying to drop and a stiff lever, so I'm going to swap it for this.
  • 20 2
 Can confirm. My E13 TRS+ post isn't the best.

It jammed up and wouldn't return after just a few wet mucky rides. They sent me a stiffer spring that helped a lot, but it hasn't been the same since. Also, there is very significant rotational play that developed very quickly. I believe it can be fixed with a tear down and some replacement bits- but this behavior happened way too quickly. Just a note- I weigh 120lbs and am not hard on stuff. I am very diligent with all maintenance. For example- I clean off the slider after every ride, and have from day 1 to help keep the internals clean.

Good to see they've improved on that post. Also, the ergonomics of the old lever are good, but the cable fixing mechanism was garbage. Good riddance of that old design.
  • 12 6
 If you want cheap and reliable get a giant. A new cartridge. If you ever need one is dirt cheap.
  • 8 2
 Wasn't the first generation a actual spring with set points instead of infinitely adjustable hydraulic?
  • 7 1
 @Fabris: Had a very similar experience with my TRS+ dropper. My post developed about 10 degrees rotational play, and when I got a warranty replacement, same thing happened on the new post. Issues with the remote as well. Sucks, because the response on the post was nice, and enjoyed having one that was coil sprung. Time to continue the warranty circle...
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 @manuni88: Yes, so I'd say this is more inline with what the market wants and has a few cool features. I prefer infinitely adjustable and having a proven cartridge that is cheap to replace means you don't have to send your post off for service that costs as much as a new post. That is why i'd rather just get a new post instead of sending in my Transfer.
  • 42 0
 @i-kerr: We have an updated head design for the original post that should address the side to side movement developing. Drop us a line at support@ethirteen.com and let us know you need the updated bushingless head. Cheers!
  • 8 0
 @ethirteen-components: Awesome, will do!
  • 5 1
 @Fabris: you never should have let your fat friend take a lap on log loop that one time
  • 4 4
 @Fabris: yup, mine stuck in the muck and the lever’s grub screw stripped out the hole it belonged in.

I don’t think I’ll buy another e13 product until it has as an established reliability. Especially when you can buy a cheap $120 dropper that is totally reliable.
  • 3 1
 I loved the idea of post that didn't rely on air seals and didn't lose air over time. Unfortunately the TRS+ dropper wasn't any lighter than anything else despite it's simplicity. Those Wintek cartridges are so easy for brands and manufacturers to design around it's no surprise that E13 decided to press the easy button - just a shame that innovation was better in theory than practice. Now if only someone would make one with an offset head...
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 @manuni88: Yep, It was coil sprung (so enduro!). Not a great piece of kit, which really disappointed me when I had one. Never super smooth and, most annoying, lots of rotational play at the head. I like e13, so I’m glad to see them up their game with this new one.
  • 3 2
 @makripper: Giant dropper are cheap but not so reliable. I had 3 giant bikes all with droppers and they all had issues and a friend who own a shop doesn't use their droppers anymore on his 4 Giants bike. Not cartridge issues but bushing, rust (yes), poor coating, etc. I wouldn't buy one anymore.
  • 2 1
 @i-kerr: warranty circus
  • 2 2
 I have 2 friends whit the older (201Cool e13 dropper and both are malfunctioning gloriously. We took one apart and couldn't believe how cheap it is built. One friend bought another dropper and the other requested a warranty replacement (which took about 2 months to receive). After a few months the dropper was broken again (ridiculous side to side play of about an inch, frequent "drops" from extended to semi extended position while seated without any rider actuation...) YT used to specc e13 droppers on all but the pro race bikes but I think they got tired of of warranty requests and just built their own dropper post...
  • 1 2
 My trs+ post is also junk. Mine was the older 4 position 170 that was then “rebuilt” (pretty sure they just shipped me a new one) because of all the head play, and came back as a 3 position 170. Lasted a few months and then back to the same old tricks.

Replaced it with a OneUp 180 that I’ve ridden only once, it’s the smoothest post I’ve ever used, but there is some head play out of the box. I’m doubtful on its long term reliability :-/
  • 5 0
 Can confirm. ethirteen's customer service may be the best I've ever dealt with. If you have a problem, they will get you sorted.
  • 1 0
 @makripper: honestly, yeah! I've been really surprised and happy with my Giant post... 3 years and has been running perfectly. Admittedly, I haven't even done anything to service it, so it is probably a ticking time bomb at this point haha
  • 1 0
 @PHeller: 9 point 8 offers an offset
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 @PHeller: at least they are not just sticking their own logos on a JD post.
  • 3 0
 My experience with the TRS+ has been fine. Over two years old now and still works great. Only issue I ever have with it is when dirt builds up in the seal and it doesn't want to fully extend. This can be sorted trailside by unscrewing the seal head and using something like a Cliff bar wrapper to feed in between the seal and post and clear out all the crap. Had some side to side play develop but that was sorted by tightening the bottom cap with a cassette tool as it started to unwind. Torqued up with some threadlock and has stayed put. I suppose I do look after things and clean the bike after every ride, and treat the dropper to some slick honey every few rides and it keeps it running sweet. I guess if you are the type that washes your bike every 10 rides then maybe the post performance wouldn't be so good, but for me, it has been pretty reliable.
  • 31 1
 So far everything I have ever gotten from e13 has been awesome and any questions I have had about products were answered very quickly! This dropper looks so sick. I can't wait to get my hands on one!
  • 23 5
 If their overarching goal was to come up with a post with overall length FAR longer than any competitor, I’ll say they won! OneUp still kicking everyone’s butt in that respect.
  • 8 0
 Right? 460mm for a 150mm...
  • 15 0
 Seems extremely similar to the PNW Rainier dropper that came out a little while ago... Only this one costs a little bit more.

Very interesting concept that really takes personalization/ customization to another level. I personally would never see myself spending the money to upgrade though when most bikes come with very nice droppers already. Good stuff e*thirteen
  • 9 0
 You mean similar to TranzX - salsacycles.com/culture/long_story_short_the_tool_free_adjustable_dropper

Also, super long at 460mm for a 150mm
  • 2 0
 I just wish PNW would have a similar system on their Batchelor post.
  • 8 3
 Chances are, like everything, TranzX, PNW, One UP, E13, and Raceface are all made by one supplier in Taiwan. I used to design power tools and when we would decided to get something to market quick (aka not designed and made in house) we would just call up a company we knew who made stuff for all the other major brands and tell them what we wanted. They would peace it together with stuff they already made or were developing. Normally they would have a list of upgrades we could make exclusive to use to differentiate.
  • 14 1
 Nice. I too heard that some people had issues with the previous post but my personal post has been solid for a year and a half now. I do prefer infinite travel though so I’m stoked to try this!
  • 17 4
 E*thirteen always innovating with their components! Not to mention the best customer service in the game! Can’t wait to get this one on my bike!
  • 4 0
 Products that don’t require any customer service is even better.
  • 1 0
 @jflb: Ride harder????‍♂️ You’ll eventually break something regardless of who makes it!
  • 8 0
 @mikelevy I think you're on to something here, especially in the era of social distancing. I would be interested in seeing you or @mikekazimer take more things apart, shocks, forks, other seatposts, brakes. Every time I take something apart I learn something.
  • 15 0
 Check out NSMB. They've been doing this for years.
  • 9 0
 Smart and simple solution.
  • 5 0
 I bought their previous post thinking that a mechanical post would spare me from the headaches of other posts and it turned out to be a disaster. I think it worked for about a week. Then I would not fully extend, stay in each position....etc.

They sent me an “updated” spring and still would not work, a new remote and same thing. They even sent me a brand new post and it still worked like shit, so I gave up on it and bought a different brand.

The customer service was top notch though. They were super responsive and willing to ship replacement parts no questions asked. Sadly the overall experience was beyond frustrating. I wish them luck with this new product, but I sure as hell will not be buying it.
  • 21 0
 Sorry to hear about your experience with the post - that certainly is frustrating. Can you drop us a message at support@ethirteen.com and we can work with you to make things right.
  • 8 0
 EThirteen: hey guys we have a new dropper!!!

Pink bike commenters: Lets just talk trash about the old one some more.
  • 6 0
 Gotta say, although the previous post had some reliability issues, e*thirteen customer service was always on point. Shipped me a new post no charge when my gen 1 post broke.
  • 12 6
 I don't want things I need to work on. I'm busy enough! Make a reliable product
  • 20 10
 Amen. Have literally broken every e13 product that came on my bike.
  • 7 1
 @Carruthers: not sure why you are being downvoted for speaking about your experience
  • 11 10
 @makripper: for some reason folks on here have a real h@rd 0n for e13 products, they think they're the cats @$$. Every peice of e13 I have owned was overpriced junk made of cardboard and Elmer's glue.
  • 1 0
 @Trudeez: I've never had any e13 besides chain guides back in the day.
  • 10 0
 @Carruthers: Sorry to hear that has been your experience - we never like to hear of situations like that. Im going to fire you a DM right now and we can get a better understanding of what happened.
  • 3 0
 @makripper: I have had a couple products and am not a fan. Concepts are always good, implementation not so much.
  • 6 1
 At this point I'm convinced droppers have a ridiculously high failure rate no matter the brand. Since they're semi-disposable at least they're cheap.
  • 5 0
 It's super strange how shitty posts dominate the market. The original dropper is Gravity Dropper. They're absolutely bombproof, and can be overhauled in a hotel room in 30 minutes while drunk. (ask my how i know) They're ugly, unintuitive, and clunky though.

It's like the ultimate example of how UI, ergonomics, hype, and salesmanship trumps function.
  • 4 0
 @scottzg: it's really just gotten to the point where the Wintek cartridges are so fool proof that everyone in the industry is going to utilize them in their post.

What's a bummer is that when those cartridges fail, the answer is to throw them out. I find that to be a huge waste of material. Ok, maybe not that bad, but still - how hard is it to make a modern Gravity Dropper?
  • 4 0
 $249 is a cheap disposable part?
  • 4 0
 Unless it's a Revive. It's a bit pricy, but worth every cent.
  • 2 0
 I really like the idea of a reliable seat post that you can service yourself. I have the old mechanical post on a Capra and had issues from the start with the post not extending. I fitted the stronger spring and it still doesn't go to the top position without pulling it up by hand, which is rather annoying. The top cap came loose and needed fitting again and the root cause was it didn't have loctite applied (which is a common assembly problem I was told by the UK distributor). Overall I think the old seat post is a poorly executed good idea. I hope e-13 did a better job with the new post. Hope they lower the stack height too.
  • 4 0
 Regardless of brand all droppers seem to be luck of the draw. You either get lucky and get one that never gives issues or you get a lemon.
  • 1 1
 Unless you buy a Bikeyoke
  • 3 1
 The only reason E13 had a piece in this game is because they offered a fully mechanical seat post. I ride fat bike in -20 then wind chill, i tried a 9 point 8, transfer, and reverb. each of them lost their charge and needed to be sent to the distributor. I bought the TRS+ which uses a spring and have never looked back. For winter application trs+ mechanical dropper is the only dropper id ever suggest to anyone. There move to a cheap hydraulic cartridge doesn't make any sense in my books.
  • 2 1
 Pretty sure wind chill doesn't affect the temperature your seat post operates in...
  • 1 0
 @bishopsmike: you are correct. that was to emphasis I ride when its facking cold!
  • 2 0
 How is making a reliable dropper post such a big deal? An AK-47 has way more moving parts, was designed in the 40's, works in freezing to scolding hot temps,...and has like a zero failure rate after being buried in mud for 50yrs. I am not a gun nut by any means, but come on? Poduct's that work like don't need good customer service to make them right. I am not digging on e-13, just the whole unreliable dropper post thing on general.
  • 1 0
 Had the e13 dropper on my '18 Jeffsy, it broke..wasn't as solid as the design should have been. But customer service was spot on, fast and friendly. They sent me a replacement and this has been great. I must admit I wrecked 1 remote myself, not a cheap mistake. This new dropper looks like a replacement maybe after the season. Really dig the idea!
  • 5 2
 E13 have awesome customer service, however sub par producs, since with majority of products i used customer service( which is rocks) however i do not expect to use it at all
  • 3 0
 I've been using my original ethirteen dropper for over 2 years now with absolutely zero maintenance and it been pretty much flawless.
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 Have the previous one, usual probs of stiction/replacement seal/spring and recently lever when the thread stripped on the cable clamp (fine 3mm thread into aluminium, are you kidding?).
Their customer service has been superb, but if I could afford to replace it with another brand I would.
  • 1 0
 I've had positive experiences with my e13 products in the past and excited to give this one a try! Props to e13 for wanting to innovate in this space and come up with simple solutions to common problems.
  • 6 2
 e13...okay leave it where you found it.
  • 6 6
 i have a trs+ 170 because i saw it as the spiritual successor to the gravity dropper- fully mechanical, easy to rebuild, with some refinement. The brass keys got sloppy quickly, the spring isn't well calibrated to actual use, and the head backs itself off if you don't locktite it down. It's weird that the copy was worse than the 15 year old OG-- It has problems that the original doesnt. I still like it.

This post... they're moving to the same office chair hydro cartridge 10 other posts are using, but so far as i see they can't nail the basics like giant, pnw, or brandx have done. So why would anyone buy this over the alternatives?
  • 3 2
 Kinda how I felt. I wanted to see someone make a good successor to the dead simple Gravity Dropper, but its far easier to select something from a catalog and modify for your brand than it is to design - and refine - something that is solely your own.
  • 2 0
 9point8 so far have the best system, it is not without flaws, however the most reliable/servisable / able to lift by saddle system (early rf and easton use it as well)
  • 2 0
 I have one and it mostly works (with consistent air loss). The brake mechanism is the most ridiculously sensitive thing to set up. Set it too loose and you can barely activate it. Set it too tight and it just pulls constantly, causing the post to slip upwards. Hope the temperature doesn't change by 2 degrees or the tension changes by half an inch and your lever is floppy.

Mostly, I'd love to know what engineer thought it was a good idea to design a collar that you need to remove to grease the post (supposedly with proprietary 9Point8 grease) that is perfectly round and extremely heavily torqued. I literally destroyed a strap wrench trying to take it off and resorted to pliers that then scratched it to piss. If these companies want to make it easily serviceable, why don't they make them removable with wrenches?

It's a crap design, avoid their product.
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 @gafoto: I just put my second one on tonight. First one is on my fatbike, and it is awesome, no issues with temp change like you describe. But like @nickmalysh said, it's not without flaws, but the post is great overall, and the customer service has been really good. Haven't needed it yet for the post, but had some questions before I bought, and they called me to talk about being able to customize it. And the fact that they support the user-serviceable philosophy and have literally every part available for individual purchase is something more companies should do. Also, the seat clamp design is the best out there, instead of the same shitty dual purpose pivot/clamp bolt setup that everyone else uses.

However, with all that hype, I agree, the round nut is dumb, and needs flats on it. I had to put mine in a lathe chuck to get it loose without mangling it. When it comes time to fully remove it, it's getting some machine work done...
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 @gafoto: I think you just summed up my experience with my Race face (9.8 design) post! I have a 170mm that was leaking air. Would have to pump it up before each ride. Strap wrench did nothing. Multigrips were the only thing that worked. I'm yet to put in any new parts and have been seriously wondering if it's worth it!!

This is a warranty replacement from a 150mm that the screw in cable attachment piece couldn't be removed from.
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 @ReubenSandwich: use 9point8 nut v2 on rf product - will address the issue;
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 @nickmalysh: Second that. The v2 rebuild on the original Race Face Turbine dropper returned my sanity (and kept air in the post). However, the nut is still round and makes it very difficult to remove.
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 @nickmalysh: cheers Nick. I'd read that on another forum after a Google search but it was pretty vague. I think 9.8 have shut at the moment due to quarantine so I might be pumping it up for a while yet. Good to know I won't be tossing it in the bin...
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 @ReubenSandwich: i’m not advocating 9p8 or any other brand, however it works for me as a best design suitable for my needs;

Having said that I believe it is cheaper and easier to buy 60$ spare part to make it work, rather then new post;

While i agree product should work out of the box, however with dropper post you will find that all of them require service once in a while and sometimes costly rebuild,oneup, rf, e13, reverb, whatever model you will list;

Only gd, blackmamba, fox doss were more or less bulletproof
  • 4 4
 That TRS+ dropper was trash. One of my biggest bicycle purchase regrets. Lost almost a full season of riding a bike because of it.

Although they did have decent customer service the design just had countless failure points. The brass token bent which then bent the actual post. It wouldn't fully rise and the lever was an over engineered mess.

I was so happy to toss that thing in the trash after multiple rebuilds and wasting wayyyyy too much time.

Here's to hoping this new design is actually reliable, but I'll stick to my one up until someone else does the testing for me.
  • 4 0
 Rather than miss almost all the season. Did it not cross you mind to temporarily use an old fashion rigid post?
  • 1 1
 @trailtaco: Nah. Just used my full suspension.
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 @trailtaco: I always have a cheap old fashion post around just in case. At the bike park it is in my car just in case, I don't even want to miss a day of riding for something like this. $20 post in your gear bag is worth it and I bet a lot of you have one laying around somewhere in an old parts bin too.
  • 1 0
 My current and my previous bike were specced with the e.13 dropper. Had major issues with both of them and customer service that only told me to service it, which didn't help.. not stoked.
  • 1 1
 It’s nice to have the 5-10 mm travel adjustment on the newer posts but in many cases max insertion depth becomes the issue and those adjustments don’t really help you maximize your travel. I went with the OneUp V2 because it has the least wasted space. 180 mm works for my bike but I have to raise it up about 10 mm to get my saddle height right. In theory I should be able to get a 210 mm post and adjust its travel to 190 mm but you need another 30 mm of insertion depth to do that. It would be nice if companies made sizes in 10-15 mm increments (instead of 30 mm) to minimize this issue.
  • 2 0
 E13 post didn’t work out of the box on a new Capra. Sent it in for service and in 4 months it never came back. Bought a oneup instead.
  • 1 1
 They all have issues and will need service at sometime. I personally own 12 Reverbs. I buy them cheap because everyone thinks there not reliable and sells them cheap. I prefer a hydraulic remote over cable and parts are readily available and easy to obtain. I can tear one down and put it back together in 45 minutes. So if one fails on one of my bikes I pull another one off the shelf and install it, and repair the broken one when I have some free time. If you take care of your bike and clean, inspect and service your bike regularly it wont fail. One of the issues I constantly see is when a part fails the rider blames the manufacturer rather than realizing all these bike parts are made in Asia and are general cheap and not of high quality. That's why I troll the internet and buy backup parts at 30 to 50% off retail less time complaining more time riding.
  • 1 1
 I've heard e13 had some issues with their first post, but my personal experience with their parts and customer service has been great. This new post checks all the boxes for me... great price, features, and a proven cartridge. My current [OLD PRODUCT] has a lot of stiction when trying to drop and a stiff lever, so I'm going to swap it for this. ($15 has been transferred to your PayPal account, remember to remove this message when sharing in PinkBike comments)
  • 4 0
 Get a BikeYoke Revive and be done with it.
  • 3 0
 so stoked i bought the clanky trs+ 2 weeks ago for more....
  • 2 0
 Now that YT has their own postman, is E*13 after the hunt of aftermarket sales?
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 If you wonder why there are statements like the following: "it is said to be more adjustable, more ergonomic, and more better" sprinkled in this web post it is because nobody at Pinkbike has ever spent a minute on the drop post. This is a press release by e-thirteen, barely re-cooked to make it look like some "tech editors" "took it a part".

Sure the drop post is ok, e-thirteen is ok, press releases are fine. But really: keep it going Pinkbike!
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 It's a brave man who buys bikings most fallible component from it's most incompetent manufacturer.
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 Don't know what you are talking about. I saw a lot more components from other manufacturers failing on my or my friends bikes than the e13 ones. But maybe it is kind of a hip thing to bash that company every other is bashing too without making a own experience...
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flag watchmen (Apr 24, 2020 at 8:15) (Below Threshold)
 @daflogg: Both your friends? (I'm including the imaginary one and the one you wave at but ignores you).
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 This has to stand the test against the v2 oneup, it's basically the same price and i just installed the v2 and it is gorgeous. Also had the TRS+ and it was terrible....
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 I hope it never springs apart on someone when they are riding. One particular part looks like it should not be anywhere near your butt.
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 Plot twist - it comes taken apart as in the photos, you know, to cut costs.
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 Haven't owned one myself, but those T25 clamp bolt heads will be stripped out in no time. Torx never stands up to repeated adjustment.
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 I like e13, but their first post was junk, and honestly their cassette system ain’t all that, so I their stuff better be amazing this time around or I’ll stick with OneUp.

Also, 180mm max drop ain’t enough these days, just saying ....
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 That’s how it’ll spend most of its life...in pieces in the garage.
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 Just had one of their carbon cranks fail in the BB and cost me £500 for a new (shimano) crank and all the consequential damage.
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 But can you lift your bike without consequence using the saddle when the post is dropped is the question...
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 Remember when RS thought it was a good idea to release a dropper thats selling for $800? Now premium droppers are $200...
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 Yes, More better (is that legitimately a thing now)????
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 Who remembers Vario bikes?
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 Levy took it apart so he didn’t have to put the piece of shit on his bike.
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 Another post coming off the Trans-X / OneUp assembly line. What will they think of next
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 Ah this grinding sound of brand new e13 seatposts refusing to go down...
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 Those same plastic actuators that come on the giant and bontrager droppers are absolute trash.
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 Mines already broken.
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 Garbage.
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