Good Month / Bad Month: Mixed Wheel Sizes, Injuries, and Plenty of Controversy - April 2019

May 1, 2019 at 20:59
by Mike Levy  




Bikes With 29'' Front and 27.5'' Rear Wheels

Mixed Wheel Size Bikes Are Winning

For 2019, the rules have been changed so that racers can run two differently sized wheels on their bikes, an announcement that quickly led to a whole load of mixed wheel testing by teams and racers. They've obviously found something that they like - the first two Enduro World Series events, as well as the first World Cup downhill of the season, were all won on the men's side with bikes rolling on 29'' front wheels and 27.5'' rear wheels.

So, are they actually faster? That's up for debate, and outright speed might not be the only reason were seeing this crop of mixed-wheel bikes - rider height and whether a company has a race-ready 29er may be playing a role as well. However, World Cup contenders typically don't use something without doing some timed testing to verify things.

There are all sorts of reasons to poke fun at the mixed wheel size combos, but isn't downhill racing all about getting from A to B in the least amount of time as possible? Last weekend's World Cup in Maribor saw the top four men finish on the same second, with Bruni just 0.4 ahead of Danny Hart in 2nd place. We're talking split seconds here, and if a top racer can make up 0.1 seconds over a handful of sections on a track because they're using two different wheel sizes, they'd be crazy not to do exactly that. Then again, weren't all the winning bikes of 2018 on the same size wheels front and back?




Young Racing Talent

The Up And Comers Are Ready

For a long time, it looked like Peat, Minnaar, Atherton & Co. would be keeping their names at the top of the results sheets forever, but it was really only a matter of time until the young guns arrived. We saw exactly that during last season, and it's more of the same in 2019. At 27, Danny Hart was the oldest man on the podium in Maribor, with Charlie Harrison and Matt Walker (4th and 5th) being born in '97 and '99.

There were also top 20-placings for Adam Rojcek, Reece Wilson, Laurie Greenland, and Amaury Pierron, all of whom were born in 1996 or later. I've never felt so old as I do after typing that.
Fist bumps.

There are up and comers in the women's field, too, with Vali Holl putting in a time that would have been good enough for 8th place against much more experienced pros, despite having to deal with a muddier track. There's Marine Cabirou and Nina Hoffmann, too, both of who raced as juniors before earning legitimate podium contender status before turning 25. It looks like the kids are doing just fine.



Controversy

Walmart and Red Bull Stir Things Up

A lot of us mountain bikers like the idea of going down to our local bike shops to buy whatever it is we might need, even if it doesn't always quite work out like that. You know what a lot of mountain bikers don't seem to like? Riders going to Walmart for their new bike, apparently, with the announcement that the American multinational retail corporation plans to offer a range of carbon performance bikes garnering mostly critical comments.

The bikes will be sold under the Viathon name and initially only available at viathonbicycles.com, but they'll show up on walmart.com at some point soon as well.
Nervous moments on the hot seat for the two old team mates.

Regardless of how you might feel about the news, Walmart's massive purchasing power and direct-to-consumer business model has the ability to shake up our little industry.

Speaking of angry comments, the UCI revealed that Red Bull would like to keep all other energy drinks off of the downhill podium and hot seat. Talk about a PR gaff and a half. Many racers are sponsored by other energy drink brands, but the ban, if enforced during the rest of the World Cup season, would only allow racers to drink Red Bull or from a Red Bull-branded bottle. Further fogging things up - or maybe clearing them up, depending on how you look at it - is the fact that Red Bull and Red Bull Media House have supported the UCI Mercedes Benz World Cup series for years now.








Racers Getting Injured

Broken Feet, Arms, and Shoulders

With the return of racing comes the inevitable return of injuries. April has been particularly hard on the pro field, with perpetual podium threat Myriam Nicole letting fans know via Instagram that she broke and dislocated her foot on April 14th, just before the first World Cup of the season.

The Syndicate's Luca Shaw went down while training in San Romolo, Italy, but his broken collarbone wasn't confirmed until he tried to ride during practice at the Maribor World Cup, while YT's Angel Suarez waited until qualifying to injure his shoulder.

It wasn't just the downhill crowd, either, with Pole's EWS racer Joe Nation breaking his arm badly enough to need surgery and a bunch of hardware. The New Zealander came home 13th at the Tasmanian round, but there's no word on when he'll be back on the circuit. Also on the sidelines is Katy Winton, who's decided to sit out while recovering from multiple concussions.



Atherton Bikes' World Cup Debut

A Near-Win and a 26th

With carbon tubes bonded into 3D-printed titanium lugs, Gee and Rachel's new race rig is probably one of the best looking and most interesting bikes in the World Cup pits. That aside, the Athertons were likely hoping for a better debut for their namesake brand; Gee ended up 6.3 seconds down in 26th, while Rachel was much closer in 2nd at just 0.8 back from Tahnee Seagrave. Let's not forget that standing on the second step of the podium at a World Cup race is a hell of a feat, but she was surely hoping for a debut win given that, well, she wins a hell of a lot of these things.

One race doesn't sum up a season, though, and there shouldn't be any doubt that one (or both) of the Athertons will ride that new bike to a victory soon.
So close but just off the win today for Rachel Atherton and her family s new Atherton DH bike.




Greg Minnaar in Maribor

Bad Weather Foils the GOAT's Qualifying

The last time the World Cup circus pulled into Maribor was in 2010 when Greg Minnaar took the win, but things were a lot different nine years later. Saturday's qualifying saw Minnaar and some others face a rain-soaked track that was massively slower than what a lot of the field had to deal with, and sometimes it's just not your day.

A crash placed the South African way back in qualifying and watching the race from the sidelines come Sunday, reminding us all that not even the GOAT gets it right all the time.
Greg Minnaar will be resigned to spectating tomorrow but you can count on him to come out all guns blazing in Fort William. A very happy hunting ground for Minnaar.



164 Comments

  • + 482
 2nd place by a split second and lets write it off as a bad month for atherton cycles. lol. unless one of those frames snapped during the race you guys are being dick heads.
  • + 129
 If winning is the only way for something/one to be a good month, it was a bad month for everyone not named Loic or Tahnee.
  • + 71
 What type of lazy cock did write that serioulsly ? lol Gee isnt first so the bike doesnt work? Wtf
  • + 19
 AMEN,

I think the fact that this innovative and relatively unproven tech survived a track like Maribor under the Athertons is testament to the construction.

Tahnee and Loic have been on the up for years now and are world class athletes with full factory support, sometimes they might be faster on the day. And only split seconds down? Yeh that's probably a decent bike.

Excited to see how the bikes evolve as the season progresses, and what the production product looks like.
  • + 41
 Yeah and Gee got 2nd in timed training 0.2 seconds behind someone named Loic. Fast as fck
  • + 42
 I thought if anyone at WC looked disappointed, or more so confused by the their finishing position it was Aaron Gwin. He looked truly surprised when he crossed finish and looked up at clock.
  • + 10
 Yep- those results aren't inconsistent with recent performance history either for either of them. Sure- everybody wants a win and I would never count Gee out as he is an unreal rider- but the men's field is thick this year with talent and his times were not far off. To come into a season on a brand new bike, with the stresses of running the company now and building the bike yourself, and place within that normative curve of results sounds like a pretty big curve to me and an indication the bikes work.
  • + 16
 Yea, by that logic V-10s are garbage.
  • + 4
 Right?

As if its out of the ordinary for Gee to have less than great results these days. And obviously Rachel is doing just fine and remains in a battle with Seagrave from race to race.

Stupid post PB.
  • + 26
 It's that American mentality of Ricky Bobby
  • + 2
 agreed
  • - 24
flag NYShred (May 2, 2019 at 10:40) (Below Threshold)
 Good Month for everyone laughing at you sheep paying thousands for plastic bikes. Your logo/sticker means nothing, a plastic bike is a plastic bike. If Walmart has it in stock - they use the same exact factories your big brand names do.
  • + 2
 I'm not sure I agree. I mean Rachel is used to winning by pretty huge margins. While sure, she only lost out by a small fraction, the fact is that she didn't take the win after several seasons of being completely untouchable. What they are suggesting here is that the expectation was another easy win by Rachel, which didn't come through - something I'm sure all the Athertons are bummed about, after having gone all in on after inventing a new brand, the success of which really depends on winning.
  • - 4
flag FuzzyL (May 2, 2019 at 11:02) (Below Threshold)
 @ratedgg13: I think so, too, Rachel won the last two races on her old bike, I’m pretty sure, the Athertons were indeed hoping for a debut win. And 26th is not something to brag about. I don’t think it’s only the medieval construction method of the bike, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a new version of it soon.
  • + 8
 Shit article because of that. I’d go with intense having a worse month than Athertons, all that hype and a 6th, 30 something and last.
  • + 2
 @ratedgg13: Agreed Rach is stupidly fast, but I watched her take a 3rd last year at fort Bill. No one has a perfect race every time. Lets see how that frame holds up after a full season.
I have guys in the aerospace industry tell me all the time that we underutilize rivets. Maybe old technology can be beneficial with new design?
  • + 5
 @H3RESQ: exactly what I was thinking. The first showing for Intense was far more pathetic than Atherton Bikes but you know, everyone's got a hard on for Gwin.
  • + 1
 @H3RESQ: "we have seals".
  • + 3
 @fatsquatch: I highly doubt she will be running the same frame all year. She will most likely have a new frame each race. They are still tweaking the geometry and suspension. Gee's bike looked like it was blowing through the suspension travel in areas that it shouldn't have.
  • + 5
 @ratedgg13: So Rachel not winning by double-digit seconds is a "Bad Month"? She didn't do that last season either - the competition (thank goodness) is a lot better in Women's DH now
  • + 3
 @BeerGuzlinFool: That‘s why I don‘t understand why everybody is complaining about the article. Gee‘s bike did big look good at race speed.
  • + 1
 big=not
  • + 1
 @FuzzyL: It's early days for the bike. They started from absolute scratch just a few months ago. The development curve remains steep at this stage. Then again Bruno's Spesh is also brand new, but the brand's level of experience and resources is a bit different.
  • - 3
 I gotta admit i can see where pb us coming from here. I watched the race and when atherton took second i turned to my mate next to me and said "well thats atherton bike sales screwed then..."
People are used to seeing rachel win. When she doesnt win her first race on the new bike, rightly or wrongly, thats gonna affect sales. Being the best is a double edged sword...
  • + 2
 @lifeofloon: go root yourself. I don't have a hard on for Gwin.
  • + 169
 Totally disagree with bad month for Atherton Bikes.
  • + 58
 and Mille Johnset with a 3rd in jr women. two wc podiums in the debut race? not a bad weekend in my view.
  • + 20
 By that logic - crap weekend for Santa Cruz, YT etc... and a bunch of others that didn't podium on top. PB, maybe you should apologize to the Atherton's if you want their future advertising dollars.
  • + 10
 @xy9ine: I'ts a bad week end for commençal, they have the worst podium to ditributed bikes ratio of all the brands.
  • + 87
 The Red Bull thing is easy. Riders sponsored by other drinks brands should take to the stage drinking Red Bull and then proceed to vomit all over the place. Timed correctly with multiple non- Red Bull riders it could be a 'barforama'. That'd nip their stupid shit in the bud
  • + 5
 It’s called tough luck and it always gives birth to hilarious solutions if only the underdog is smart enough. Can’t see that coming from Monster and Rockstar though, somehow intellect is not the first thing coming to my mind when thinking of these two brands...
  • + 8
 To play the devil's advocate they've been sponsoring the event for years. That being said Red Bull as a company is ruthless and are famous for cutthroat practices across multiple sports. Gotta pay the bills somehow I guess. p.s the drink tastes like piss too
  • + 6
 @WAKIdesigns: Then again, they manage to make a shit-ton of money off truly nasty swill in a market dominated by another purveyor of nasty swill. So perhaps the people behind those brands are not all that dumb after all?
  • + 11
 @g-42: yeah, it’s just that Monster and Rockstar doesn’t pay money for Broadcast and sht. What RB is saying is “no free lunch bitches” or at least “be the first or be last”. Don’t have any illusions whether Monster and Rockstar wouldn’t do the same thing in RB shoes. They deserve no martyrdom batch.

Never heard football audience whine on piss beer makers.
  • + 4
 @g-42:
Evian/volvic DHWC
  • + 6
 #drinkwater
  • - 3
 @ratedgg13: #veganwolf #goketo #sugariswhitedeath #paleowarrior
  • + 8
 Maybe monster should ban Red Bull from supercross podiums where the money is even bigger
  • + 3
 Probably no that hard to "fake" barf after drinking any of those energy drinks...
  • + 33
 Bad month for Atheton bikes.? Rachel gets 2 by split second, and when was the last time Gee won a World Cup race, since 2014? I wasn't expecting Gee to win anyway. They Debut their own brand on the world cup circuit, that's a win.
  • + 7
 He finished 2nd at the last race of the season last year. He looked like he was finally over his injury. I was not expecting him to be 7 seconds off the pace.
  • - 34
flag mikelevy Mod Plus (May 2, 2019 at 9:31) (Below Threshold)
 Nah, I'd guess Rachel would have only been happy with a win, and you think Gee is happy with 26th? Results-wise, Rachel winning (like she often does on every bike) and Gee in the top-2 would have been a "win."
  • + 23
 @mikelevy: with that logic V10 is a piece of junk but let’s Reserve the judgment for later. What happened to Syndicate was a team disaster comparable to two Red Bulls crashing into each other
  • + 7
 @mikelevy: Tahnee beating Rachel is not a surprise and she was within 10ths of the win. I'd also say its a hell of a lot more surprising these days to see Gee on the podium than outside the top 20. Get a grip bro.
  • - 8
flag anchoricex (May 2, 2019 at 10:30) (Below Threshold)
 @mikelevy: how the f*ck is this guy a mod
  • + 26
 @anchoricex: he invented DownCountry, have some respect
  • + 6
 There was also a super favorable article about the new Cannondale DH bike, yet that only reached a 40th Maribor yet no mention of it on the BAD
  • + 5
 @mikelevy: Rachel is use to dominating and its refreshing to see the other girls catch up to her aside from the bike she is choosing to ride. Of course she wants to be number 1, but we cant always win. I'm hoping the girls catch up to her because I'm tired of the days of seeing Rachel win by 5 seconds or more. As far as Gee, I like him a lot as a rider and as a developer, and happy to see him still racing, but to expect him on the podium now with the crop of up and coming riders would be far fetched.
  • + 1
 @gally-nh: Rachel is usually 5 seconds up on the field. Did Tahnee beat her straight up? Yes. But did the bike hold her back. Some could reason.
  • + 10
 @chriskneeland:

Lets see -- last year she was 4 seconds off Myriam Nicole in Losinj, 10 seconds off Seagrave and Nicole at Fort Bill, 6 tenths ahead of Nicole in Leogang, a tenth off Seagrave in Val di Sole, 5 seconds off Seagrave in Valnord, 1 second up on Seagrave in Le Bresse.

She had two races where she dominated by 5 seconds or more last year (MSA and Lenzerheide).

The fact is the top of the ladies ladder has gotten a lot tighter since she went on her winning streak. Her coming in second by 6 tenths to Seagrave in Maribor is not surprising whatsoever, and it is completely silly to blame the new bike. It is 150% within the realm of normalcy regarding results in the women's WC.
  • + 7
 @mikelevy: maybe you missed the fact that even though Rachel has still had wins she is not the same dominant Rachel since she's come back from her injuries. Sure both of them wanted to place better but to call it a loss for their bike company is pathetic. Did you miss that they had more podiums and better finishes than the new "dream team" with Intense?
  • + 4
 @mikelevy:
So you say Gee and Rachel were expected to win, because of their company, but Gwin, Neko and Moir shitting the bed on a new team was different? Or how about the Syndicate? Greg not making finals for the first time is arguably a bigger disappointment.
How about some perspective?
The young guns were on fire this race, which is shown by the amount of young riders in the top 10/top 20.
Times were also tight overall.
Cmon,it's not the slow season anymore, no need to create content out of thin air anymore. Time to get bacl to some quality content.
  • + 1
 @Loki87: Rachel is always expected to win. Gee was at least expected to break the top 10. Rachel taking second within a second against a rising Tahnee is a bit of a stretch. But Gee 7 seconds back without a fall did not look good for that bike. But ya, the California brands were trash in the first round. Gwin off the podium without a crash feels almost unheard of.
  • + 2
 @Loki87: on point!!
  • + 1
 @chriskneeland: Gee has had 5 top 10 finishes in his last 20 races (that's 25% of the time). I don't know why anyone was expecting him to automatically be in the top ten let alone on the podium considering it is 75% likely he doesn't do either of those things in a given race these days. Makes zero sense.
  • + 2
 @gally-nh: Well he's over his injury from last year and ended the season with a podium. Following his training and testing in the off season, I certainly expected him to out perform more than half the riders who finished in front of him.
  • + 27
 It's a bad month for.... ME. Grimes1405 didn't make it onto the box at the Maribor WC, nor did he even make it on the plane, stuck as he was working his 9-5 teaching in a public school. Grimes hopes to bounce back later on in the year with a plan ticket and a hotel in Snowshoe to spectate, but the Sport-category enduro racer really needs to up his game if he has aspirations of a podium against the world's best.
  • + 24
 Drink water.
  • + 18
 I tried it once and it was okay-ish.
  • + 6
 plot twist: red bull is 99% water.
  • + 18
 @inked-up-metalhead: and 1% ass to give it the flavor
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: and dipping your donuts in water is a no go
  • + 5
 @inked-up-metalhead: Nope, at least 30% are sugar and artificial sweeteners.
  • + 2
 @FuzzyL: but the whole can is liquid?!? mind = blown.


and its not that much tbh, theres 55g of sugar in a 500ml can of monster, and thats the highest quantity of anything bar carbonated water. so maybe 15-20% at most isnt water, so its still 400ml of water i wouldnt drink as water.

tbf i have 1 monster and about 2l of no added sugar ribena a day, its not that bad if your not drinking full sugar coke, i cut out almost 1.5kg of sugar each week by stopping drinking full sugar fizzy pop.
  • + 8
 @inked-up-metalhead: Dude! Depends what you classify as not much/not that bad. 55g is 11 teaspoons. Ribena is about 5g/100ml so 2L is 100g or another 20 teaspoons. RDI for an adult male is approx 40g or 9 teaspoons/day. I would say consuming over 3x the RDI just in 2.5L of drinks is not gonna end well for you. Good work on cutting down from where you were. Your health/body will thank you.
  • + 2
 @thebradjohns: no added sugar ribena. 0.5g per 100ml, so maybe 10g a day from that. plus the 55g make 65g a day, i dont drink tea or coffee, i dont drink, i dont smoke cigs (lol), and i am probably 50% bigger than the average person (im 18st, 6ft 1, 54inch chest, 57cm thigh, 44cm calf), so considering i was on about 250g a day from pepsi/coke and a monster, and im very active (that rda is for office workers, not builders) my dads dietician (hes type 2 diabetic, its why ive made the changes, i dont want it too) says ive gone from very likely to unlikely, she reckons a 2l bottle of full sugar lemonade a day is whats done it for my dad. gotta get energy from somewhere, ive tried being even better but kept going weak and light headed from low blood sugar, so i think there is a limit.
  • + 18
 Am I the only one around here that remembers 24'' in the rear and 26'' in the front? Am I getting old?
  • - 3
 Cannondale right ? aka crack and fail.. My brother still has his. Yep im an oldtimer
  • + 6
 No, you are not the only one, but yes you are getting old! (Just as i am!)
  • + 3
 No, you are just under a wrong article, you should post that in the Karpiel bit. These were the times. Like average kid in the park or dirt jumps today can do more than they did up to NWD3. These riders and their bikes paved the way, let’s respect that. Let’s just not forget how far the biking world moved forward since then, in every single respect. It’s only Minion DHF that is here and still kicks ass and let’s drink to that
  • + 5
 Specialized Big Hit
  • + 3
 My old specialized big hit. Fun times had on that beast.
  • + 4
 @oneplanka: "crack and fail"...umm isn't your brother's bike almost 30 yrs old?
  • + 1
 I had a bunch of sweet DMRs and a .243 with 24'' rear wheels, Profile cranks, Atomlab rims, and two DH tubes out back. Simpler times.
  • + 0
 @mikelevy: any stuff from roox?
  • + 1
 @e-fro: indeed it is. My understanding is that they had problems with their early frames having a propensity to fail/crack I believe the model was the M 800 ? could be wrong. He keeps it around for posterity, and as a reminder of how far we have come.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: badass. I just got an old Trailstar as a beater and now find I prefer it to my fully.
  • + 1
 @oneplanka: does his have the rollercam brakes? I had one of the early ones with cantilevers on the front and a BMX caliper on the back -- basically no brakes on the back haha. Felt like suicide sometimes downhill. 24" rear wheel = short rear end! haha, loved that bike.
  • + 1
 @jond63: roller cam brakes suntour XC thumb shifters, and a mix of suntour componentry.
  • + 1
 I must be honest, I hate combined wheel sizes...
  • + 18
 Good month for tanhee seagrave and super bruni hands down lol
  • + 9
 Frakenbikes make sense. The big front end rolls over stuff with ease, while the 27.5 in the rear still allows for a little snappy ness and maneuverability through the turns, plus it naturally will keep the front end high through the rough stuff and the rear planter or ready to pop.
  • + 1
 @ mkowtowski - true and then perhaps run a wider burlier rim back there with a beefier tire to ward of rim failure, blow outs and snake bites. But the MX industry already figured that out decades ago.
  • + 6
 @neimbc: Jesus when are people gonna stop the irrelevant comparison with mx. Mx wheels are about the same size overall because the tires difference compensate for the rim size difference. Mx have an engine, they go both uphill and downhill. and they accelerate in and out of the turns depending the type of turn. Yeah they have two wheels like DH bikes but the comparison stops there.
  • + 4
 @zede: Not really.
  • + 3
 The downside will it be we won´t be able to swop the front tire to the rear...
  • + 1
 @zede: Nope! The diameter of a front tire on a modern MX bike is about 27.5" and the diameter of the rear tire is about 26.5", i.e. the front wheel/tire setup is about 1" taller.
  • + 5
 @jwrendenver: He’s still right about the MX comparison being nonsense. We’d probably see a lot of MX bikes with rear tires not wider than the front and identical wheel sizes front and back, if the rear wheel didn’t have to transmit the torque of the engine to the ground. Now that I come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense for ebikes, too. Maybe that’s the reason behind the rule change, marketing departments need that for the next generation of battery powered bikes... ;-)
  • + 1
 @DJ-24: lol not really?
Mx don't really have an engine ? Mx don't really have wider tyres on the back than the front ? Or you think mx riders don't really accelerate out of the turns ?

Comparing mx and DH bikes is a non sense.
  • - 1
 @zede: Yes, exactly my point . With a bigger tire back there, they are virtually the same size, but you get the advantages I mentioned. Happy Trails!
  • + 10
 "Then again, weren't all the winning bikes of 2018 on the same size wheels front and back?"
Yes of course, those were the rules in 2018.
  • + 3
 Exactly. I love this site but sometimes the errors (stupidity?) are just too much
  • + 1
 Boom roasted
  • + 5
 It’s as if none of the announcers and PB journalists have actually tried mixed wheel sizes: “29’er front rolls better and the 27 rear is more fun, but there must be something about it that they like.”

Yes, shorter riders can now exploit the faster rollover of the 29’er front without the seat buzz thanks to the 27 rear wheel.

However, from my experience, the true advantages of mixed wheel sizes are cornering and steeps.

Mixed wheel sizes corners better. The bike dives into corners and rails with confidence. Think about it, the rear wheel naturally tracks an inside line. A smaller radius wheel for the smaller radius line. Plus, smaller rear wheel increases torque, better for accelerating.

If you draw a line between the front and rear axles, the line is parallel on equal wheel setups but on mixed wheel sizes, that line is now at a slackened angle. This makes mixed wheel sizes more comfortable on steep sections.
  • + 7
 To paraphrase someone who knows a lot more about bikes than I do: "the front wheel and rear wheel do very different things"
  • + 5
 It's amazing how long mountain bikes are taking to just end up adopting dirtbike geometry. Slacker head angles and different wheel sizes have been standard on dirtbikes for ages. Is the next trend in mountain biking going to be super boost plus mega spacing so you can run a 26++ size wheel on the back and a 29" on the front?
  • + 8
 Bad month for Cathro being limited to 3-minutes track walk screen time.
  • + 1
 Fake news as it turns out. Or at least a misunderstanding in communication.
  • + 1
 I thought his postings were weak this time. I really hope he's not being spread too thin. That final Pinkbike show was lacking, I expected some video of the riders he was mentioning.
  • + 4
 "if enforced during the rest of the World Cup season, would only allow racers to drink Red Bull or from a Red Bull-branded bottle"

This is just not true and just contributes to the nonsense. If you are going to report on an issue, report it correctly. Riders are not required to drink from a Redbull branded bottle (which would obviously be an issue if they have another drink sponsor). The UCI and Redbull made it clear that if they don't want to drink from a Redbull bottle they can simply use a plain unbranded bottle. These are two completely different scenarios.
  • + 4
 everytime someone uses the word GOAT and does not mention Nicolas V. a puppy dies in southfrance, so be careful about your words. ( that Goat thing was brought up mostly by warner and ignores worlds)
  • + 1
 Goat refers to the person with most race wins.... Minnaar is the goat.
  • + 1
 GOAT stands for The Greatest Of All Time...

pulpmx.com/2011/09/30/is-there-a-g-o-a-t

Ricky Carmichael was the GOAT of MX, which stands for The Greatest Of All Time which is what Muhammad Ali was called in the 60's when he was boxing and was given to RC in an interview by former rider Matt Walker.
  • + 1
 @gabriel-mission9: Rob warner started calling him the GOAT as a reference to Ali (see below). It his highly subjective and in my opinion wrong.
/stats Nico V.: 10 Worldchamps ( 3 junior 7 elite)
4 Worldcup Overalls
16 Worldcupwins
+ a couple of EWS and the Megavalanche

/stats Greg M.: 3 Worldchamps
3 Worldcup Overalls
23 Worldcupwins


even if you count a Worldchamps win as a regular Worldcup, which of course does no justice to Worlds its a draw in wins. Nico won more overalls still. And thats just counting DH.
  • + 1
 What? No. Its WC race wins. It was Peat before Minnaar and Anne Caro before Atherton. Thats how GOAT has always been worked out
  • + 1
 @gabriel-mission9: wait you are saying r. atherton is the female goat. Goat stands for greatest of all times and if you compare ac with rachel it becomes even more obvious that if someone is supposed to be the greatest you have to look at the whole picture. That stupid goat thing was never worked out. Warner just started it ( in mtb) as some kind of marketing bs.
  • + 0
 Dunno where you are getting your info buddy. People were calling the person with the most wc wins the goat while warner was still racing for giant. Warner absolutely did not start it off by giving the title to minnaar...
  • + 1
 @gabriel-mission9: so we ( the mtb community) agreed upon calling someone with a third of the worldchampionship titels of another rider the greatest of all times. If so we are even more stupid than i thought. Goat is not a trademark or anything nor does it have a definition so everyone is free to question it.
  • + 0
 Thats just the convention that has emerged in mtb. I dont think its really worth getting worked up about...
  • + 4
 Maybe the 27.5 rear is just because when you need to pedal, they accelerate better and the fact that it's a trailing suspension means that dragging it over obstacles is easier already.
  • + 26
 and at 5'6", riding super steeps on 29" buzzes me balls off.
  • + 2
 @kmg0: chainsaw hahaha
  • + 1
 I just put a 29” wheel on my e29 like it was supposed to have and it definitely accelerated better. That or swapping out a wheel strengthens your legs, Seems legit
  • + 2
 @kmg0: this is why 27.5 will never go away. 29" just doesn't work for a good chunk of people.
  • + 6
 It was a bad month for anyone wanting to watch the replay of the DH without spoilers. *Shakes fist*
  • + 6
 I'm gonna rage if Redbull does that again next round. I carefully avoid social media until I get a chance to sit down and watch, and Redbull puts the winner right next to the replay.

Why in the hell would they do that? It just seems like such an obvious no brainer to NOT list the race winner next to a replay.
  • + 3
 Wasn't it the Syndicate that was pushing hard to reduce the number of men that qualify for finals from 80 to 60? Minnaar is my favourite rider but I can't help but feel this was a little bit of karma with him failing to qualify.
  • + 6
 April sucked. Torn achilles tendon on April 6th, right as the weather in the Pacific Northwest started getting better.
  • + 8
 @ mtnbiker1978 Sorry dude heal up
  • + 2
 So the Athertons are highlighted as negative despite a 2nd podium by Rachel then what makes the new “Cannondale” 2shock bike with a 40th on the podium? A glowing article about the new 2 shock system came out just just few days ago. Can we st least be consistent?
  • + 2
 As someone over 70 who came out of a motocross background and still rides I'm amused and concerned. Talk about reinventing the wheel...Dirt bikes have had mixed wheel sizes for a reason forever. Front wheel rolls over everything better, rear wheel spools up faster. Human powered, even more pronounced benefits. Before the advent of tubeless there were issues of 2 spare tubes. Not anymore. I've ridden a rigid SS 69er in several SSWC. Arguably, 27.5 X 29 makes even more sense. Try it, you'll like it.
  • + 5
 Come on, how was that a bad month for Athertons new bike? With that logic V10 is a piece of junk.
  • + 1
 Yep, not to mention the highly biased article on the new 2-shock Cannondale DH rig just few days ago.
  • + 0
 We are used to seeing rach win. She didnt win on the new bike. Its not dofficult to see why this is considered a pr disaster for the fledgling brand
  • + 0
 @gabriel-mission9: I think the main point is that the editor in the article could have used that same bar for any other brand with a new bike (Santa Cruz, Cannondale, Intense) but instead chose to single out the Athertons. And let’s not forget about the biased Cannondale article just days before this comparison
  • + 1
 bad weekend:

large amount of pisstaking from the five grand plus plumber/sparkie crew at my local track as im riding a 2012 Zesty

Good weekend:

large amount of pisstaking when said Zesty knocks ten secs minimum off their times for a segment.
couldnt give a shiny f*ck bout strava segments tbh, but nice nonetheless
  • + 2
 Why not call it monthly mtb review instead of good month/bad month? Do we have to pretend the readers are stupid and simplistic thinkers? Is that a journalistic necessity in today's society?
  • + 2
 Are you talking seriously? bad month for the atherton? what are you talking about. how many brands positioned in the market actually had bad results. good month for the Atherton I said.
  • + 2
 Try the mullet it's properly fun - run it on an old hardtail (not saying a modern DH bike needs it if your happy with geo) but it'll really freshen up an old hardtail and give you an awesome playful ride
  • + 1
 The Atherton bike is ugly. There I said it. It looks like Dan built it in his shed from old plumbing parts. Best of luck to them, and I love to watch them race, but I can't get behind that bike.
  • + 0
 Dang, I didnt buy a 27.5 bike so havent fallen for that one, I have not bought a 29er either or a 29/27.5 mongrel bike.
I dont drink redbull as cat spray is better for you.

Water drinking 26er here. Slightly injured (shoulder and foot) and still hoping for a podium in Vets at the BDS in Fort Bill next weekend (was wanting the win before getting injured now... wanting the win but being realistic against most of the best vets in the country).
  • + 5
 All you're saying is you haven't bought a new bike in a while. Hopefully when you do the water will still be good to drink.
  • - 3
 @acali: I haven't found the need yet. Accepted a long time ago that it is the pilot that is slow.

I might have tested a 27.5 V10 v my 26... I still have my 26. Performance over fashion. (Gotta love being an engineer).
  • + 1
 I hope this link works!

My keyboard warrior effort at Fort William last weekend trying to get ready for this weekends BDS at Fort William (I re-separated my shoulder 3 weeks ago and damaged my foot which has put back my riding a bit) , there are stops as George, who dropped me on the top section had sore hands due to it being our 7th run (all sub 5:30), George is an Ex-Propain Junior rider)and so much better at cornering than me and generally faster. I was happy that this is 5:13 pace on my trusty old V10.5.

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156328797658321&id=508318320

I hope the video works.
  • + 0
 bad month for me....chain reaction cycles front wheel build ordered waited 4 weeks for it to a arrive, it didn’t, sent email & was told oops sorry no 650b/27.5 hope tech dh rim in stock. good month for me crc promptly sends refund so i can order again going for stans mk3 flow rim this time.
  • + 2
 remember when everyone ragged on the Big Hit for the 26x24 set up, but now is jizzing themselves over the 29x27.5....yeah...yall are a fickle bunch if nothing else...
  • + 6
 Who ever ragged on the Big Hit?? From what I remember that bike was universally loved. And hardly the only one with a smaller back wheel at the time.
  • + 2
 @bananowy: I can vividly remember when 650b started coming onto the scene, several people commenting about doing a 27.5x26 rig, only to get ridiculed and downvoted, citing the Big Hit's geo.
  • + 2
 @preach: Fair play but again, that was when the Big Hit was already old and we had had several waves of new geo, 2 generations of 29-ers and another wheelsize to compare it to. My memory might be playing tricks on me but I still think when the Big Hit was NEW, it was considered a good bike.

Smaller back wheels were also used by some others at the time, like Karpiel to name an example. And lots of freeriders I knew were putting 24" x 3" Gazzaloddis on wide rims on the back of any big bike really, not necessarily designed for it (incl. hardtails with dual crowns Wink ). It was definitely "a thing" among freeriders at one point.
  • + 2
 At least the mixed wheel size bikes don't all look as hideous as Danny Harts front mudguard.
  • + 1
 weird I thought the frankenbikes looked like they all had flat rears, and kind of looked like the rest was hanging up on roots and stuff but obviously an optical illusion
  • + 3
 Where's the 26/27.5's? That should be step one before 27.5/29.
  • + 2
 Please. Just ride your bikes....
  • + 1
 Yeah, well, outside of the bike-universe it's also been one helluva strange month!
  • + 0
 If I was sponsoring a whole event I wouldn't want other brands getting airtime. it's fair play by redbull whatever you think of them
  • + 0
 Bad month for "29er marketing team", constantly pushing that the 29er is the faster wheel in pinkbike articles, constantly marketing 29er bikes, still no major trophy yet.
  • + 2
 Except for 2018 DH WC overall
  • + 0
 Mmmmmyes buy the new 29er dh or mixed wheel sized bike,can’t wait for the 27.5/27.5 bikes to become redundant bargains!
  • + 2
 Meh
  • + 1
 Good month for the new Specialized Demo. First up WC race and a win.
  • + 1
 Bad month. Torn meniscus and MCL.
  • + 0
 Mixed Wheel Size Bikes Are Fugly. There' I said it.
  • - 2
 good month for franken bikes. bad month for downhill Big Grin
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